Is the Sony A7RV Better than the Sony A1? It's Complicated

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

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[@RyanREAX]

A7R5 Medium Raw is a game changer for wedding and event shooters.. no crop 26mp files..

[@earthgraduate726]

Please explain

[@holdmyown32]

The autofocus, the screen, and this are the reasons I want to upgrade from my a7riv.

[@ferarrigoPhoto1967]

What you showed about the Sony A1 losing focus on an object (a person in this case) is a setup issue and not a focus issue. In order not to lose the object in focus, you should set the focus "Tracking sensitivity" to a low level. In that case the focus will be kept even if the object passes behind others. I use the camera almost every day and I don't have any issue with that.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I did. It was set to lock on. This was the only case I had a problem with it.

[@davetv8171]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer just shows that a 6k steak sauce isn’t perfect. I have both but need further testing with my 7rv. One negative, you get so used to these two cameras and the A7iv, which they called baby A1…you find out is not.

[@leonc100]

I agree. I almost never have focus issues on my A1 even with super fast action

[@renestaempfli1071]

This comparison pretty much sums it up. I have both the A1 and A9. I guess the A1.2 will have all the new features of the A7R5, but using the current stacked sensor. This would be in line with their current policy, using the sensor for 2 generations. They may change the processor for better integration of the AI chip. Automatic sbject recognition works better on the A7R5. As I mostly select the subject to track, it's not such a big deal for me. But it looks like the stickyness, thanks to the AI chip, is better on the A7R5. Personally, I will always go for a stacked sensor with it's much faster readout.

[@MichaelSasser]

Great video! Are you able to see through the viewfinder still when you’re recording with the info on? Mine always goes black and I have to use the monitor. I’d love for that not to be true!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

@@MichaelSasser sadly you can’t

[@Jeo-What]

I have heard many mention that due to A1 does not have a "dedicated AI processor" on the A7RV therefore many not be possible to have the same level of subject recognition capability upgraded. "See it to believe it" is my model so I went through the teardown photos of A1, A9 II and A7RV and examined the motherboard chip layouts and found them to be mostly identical. Imagine Sony may just make one motherboard and turn features on and off to save production cost like Tesla? Then I re-watched the product announcement video for Sony A1 and found in the section of Real-time Eye AF at 9:54 and 10:41 both were mentioned by Sony on how improved A.I. technology is been implemented into A1 for subject recognition to work with the system that tracks and focus at 120/s. I think the A1 does have the A.I. chip built in and most likely runs on a fast clock speed to accommodate the 120/s calculation so it is most likely able to implement the same or higher level of subject resonation through firmware. It really just depends on Sony's willingness to add them into the new A1 firmware to keep their top customers happy. The fact is that most A1 owners with A7RV A.I. recognition ability will most likely buy the A1 II without second thought if it comes with a Global shutter sensor anyway so Sony really have nothing to worry about.

[@premiumbitter]

Does the V"feel" just as fast and responsive as the A1? I rented an A1 for a week and, when I went back to my A7RIV, that's what I missed the most! My camera felt "laggy" and sluggish compared to the A1. And I don’t mean the AF system or the shooting speed or the buffering, necessarily. I mean the general use of the camera. The menus, startup time, time between switching shooting modes, etc....just feels INSTANT on the A1 in a way that it doesn't on the A7RIV. Additionally, there are definitely times when you have to "wait on" the A7RIV, one example that comes to mind is that, after shooting a short burst (only 2-3 shots) of photos, I can't immediately record a video, I have to wait for the buffer to clear. (this is even when using a 300 MB/s write card, since there is a write-speed bottleneck inherent in this camera) The overall responsiveness of the A7RV hasn’t been mentioned in any write-ups or videos I’ve found, I’m starting to think there is an NDA Sony made folks sign to not talk about it!

[@kingghidorah8106]

I don't think it feels faster. I've tested A6700 (same AF system as A7RV) and A7IV and the IV feels like cheating, while on a6700 you need to rely a lot on AI subject detection. I also read somewhere else that A7RV has 20 calculations per second of AF/exposure etc while A1 (same as A7IV) does 120. Not to say the A7IV/A1 are more accurate, but that they behave faster.

[@saschawolf5808]

Thanks for the Video, your reviews are great 👍🏻. I ordered the A7rV last week here in Germany.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Thanks! Hope you'll enjoy the camera!

[@saschawolf5808]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I hope as well 😉 Maybe it will shipped out in 7-8 days.

[@keving7773]

Thank you very much, great video! I love my sony A1 and the lens selection but frankly their lack of substantial/meaningful firmware updates is embarrassing! Even for their "Flagship camera". Focus breathing compensation came out with A7SIII (OCT 2020) and still not available for the A1!!!! So I don't see the new focus stacking (A7RV) making its way to other models. Also $1200 for a CF express type A is disgusting!!!

[@jeroenvdw]

The cost of the CF cards are really disgusting indeed. The cost to make them isn't that much higher than a regular SD card. It's just greed and abusing the fact that once a photographer/filmmaker is using a Sony camera, it's hard to switch brands. So you're pretty much forced to buy a regular SD card or a very expensive CF type A card. Unless the ones on Aliexpress are actually good.

[@aspilobo]

How much does it cost on TaoBao?

[@pixelyourmoment5255]

So is the better autofocus on the a7rv with 10 fps better than the A1 for sports or wild life? that's 30fps. my question would you even need the extra 20 fps due to the better focusing?

[@angelloenraw]

The only camera that allows to use fully electronic shutter with flash sync is the A1. Still being the Queen 👑

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

The shutter, both mechanical and electronic is exceptional in A1

[@nazukeoya]

I still love my Sony A1, wouldn't trade it for any other camera on the market. I'm definitely curious what the Sony A1 Mark II will bring to the table though.

[@mike_litoris.]

Any idea when Sony A1 mark 2 is coming out?

[@nazukeoya]

@@mike_litoris. My best guess is in early 2024. Right now, Sony just doesn’t have much competition from Nikon and Canon against the A1, so there’s more incentive to wait. I think once Canon releases the R1 then Sony will show ip Canon with the A1 Mark II.

[@collinheath3290]

Just switched to Sony and got the A7R V. Seems the colors are nice now! I need a second body though. Are the A1 colors the same???? Anyone have an answer to this?

[@Daniel-px8xg]

I will never give my Sony a1 away. It can shoot 30fps a second so even when I’m drunk I can capture cool shots. Word up

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Drunken Master 3: A1 revenge 🔥🔥🔥

[@Jonathantuba]

Thanks for an interesting comparison. I don’t think Sony will add focus breathing to the A1. This was a feature of the A7iv last year and there have been A1 software updates since that release without adding this feature to the A1. I have the A1 and am waiting for the A7Rv I have ordered. It sound like the A7Rv will be better for everything but fast action photography where the A1 will still be king due to its higher fps and lack of rolling shutter.

[@smooth111012]

I’m considering one of these cameras from my current Sony A7C, I mainly shoot wedding and portraits Any recommendations?

[@joel.wuestehube]

I am kind of mind blown how much they improved and innovated since the A1. All small things but very useful in day to day life

[@mani-rc2tv]

Once they add all this to a1ii Imagine

[@joel.wuestehube]

@@njrtech sorry I think I missed the point where I said the r5 is faster than the a1

[@vettepwr23]

Great video. If you could buy a used A1 in good condition for $4700 US, would you choose that over an A7RV? Thanks. I know there are some trade offs like flip screen and lower resolution LCD screen.

[@sushantatimalsina9064]

buy A1

[@leonc100]

Absolutely. A1 all day long.

[@benoittissier58]

It is necessary to separate subject recognition, tracking and actual focusing. On fast moving subjects, the A7iv is great for the first 2 steps, but it's not capable of focusing reliably. From the other tests l've seen, the A7R5 seems to have the same behavior.

[@davidromano2421]

Are lenses able to keep up with the camera shifting focus so fast? The camera may be able to detect the new focus point but if the lens can't get there fast enough, it doesn't matter. I've seen a bunch of these videos, very well done, but usually with fast, new GM lenses. I wonder if my non-GM lenses can take advantage of the camera focusing system. For example, one favorite lens is the Sony Zeiss 50 mm 1.4 planar.

[@npvids]

This has been my question from Day 1 but never received any useful answer so far. If third-party lenses are not going to get any of these benefits, then I'd say the true advantage of Sony over Canon wouldn't make sense

[@renestaempfli1071]

Some of the new Tamron seem to be able to keep up.

[@karam_nassar]

If you think about to get the a1 for Vlog making it’s not a right choice, simply because of not having a flip screen ! That’s at least for me a deal breaker

[@ocelotsix6six]

It's going to trickle down to the a93 and a1.2 I can't be mad that the a1 doesn't have this because it's over a year old now. If it was 6 months I agree I'd be mad.a1 is still a beast

[@minglu3906]

I love my A1 . But when focusing with backlighted object, the performance is horrible...Maybe that is why the focus was not stable in the test.

[@AR-vf7vg]

From the A1 I immensly value the mechanic shutter and the "only 50mio pixel (low noise performance still worse then their old 41Mio pix), and best anti rolling/flick/artefacts in difficult light. But I will not be able to buy one however legitimate I feel about it. Mark II has to (will) add what the AR5 now has as a consolation advantage with its price. I think many people going for the AR5 actually don't care for the 60mio pixel but can't afford the more natural feeling A1 concept.

[@AR-vf7vg]

To@Long Johnson: From What I remember is that I studied the comparison facilities on Dpreview. (I do low light and "monochrome" endresults) Also recently a A1 review clearly stated that the dynamic range on low light of the a7R3 was better then that of the A1. Your turn "before calling me à liar": let me find these references by asking for me to really find them again for you( 😐 )

i am on the way of switching from the a1 to the fx3 and a7rv ... my a1 overheats ALL THE TIME ... right now there was no shoot i made without overheating. For me video without a built in fan is over. a7siii also only worked with temp settings on high so yeah ... fx3 here i come

[@longrider9551]

After shooting with my A-9 I could never go back to a camera w/o a stacked sensor

[@JavierMorenoX]

This a good point for me, I have the A9 as well and it’s speed is fantastic, but the crop capacity (birding for instance) is not there. So shall we exchange a A9 for a A7Rv? I am afraid I will after watching and reading the reviews. Of course we still need more thorough tests in harder conditions. Waiting for the next batch of tests. Thanks for the review, one of the best ones.

[@longrider9551]

@@JavierMorenoX I shot with an A7R4 or a year and a half and I don't think the camera does a good job fast moving subjects I would lean towards the A1 you wanted more resolution to crop

[@JavierMorenoX]

@@longrider9551 I knew that, in fact I have the older A7r2 and it is not good for fast moving things. BUT now Sony could have improved greatly that specific point with the new processors and the AI processor. My other worry is low light capacity or high ISO impacts of the pics, A9 is pretty good, but the A7r4 apparently was not too good at thst. So now it is time to see the a7r5 real capacity. Let's hope for the best

[@networm64]

Honestly 7fps in electronic shutter is nothing but a cripple hammer both in A7rv and A7iv. They could double that for crop mode at least. And there are numerous more things I can count like this. Sony will lose people by taking strategies like this.... Other brands have caught up drasticly and a great AF is not a big thing at all anymore. We need MORE! MUCH MUCH MORE!

[@gordonyz4]

If they drive at 12 bit raw it should do 14fps, wonder why sony don't go with it.

[@RiceCubeTech]

It’s because the readout on the sensor is trash lol. Its a pretty slow readout sensor, hence why the rolling shutter in video is also terrible

[@networm64]

@@RiceCubeTech Big big nope! R6 with same sensor readout has 20fps electronic shutter. Yes useless for quick pan and fast actions but quite usfule in any other situations

[@LukeFlegg]

Correction: the A1 *does* have the same high res EVF the a7r5 has, you choose between full res or full speed. On a7r5, you choose between slow and bad res, or slow and full res

[@robbycastillo7862]

Thank you for this comparison! Great video as always. I have the Sony A1 and Sony A7IV! (i love them both) A7R5 is so tempting!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

My pleasure! I'll be 100% honest with you - with A1 and A7IV you're pretty much covered hahah :D

[@mdc123-v2v]

There's ZERO reason to get an A7V with those two.

[@themarksmanABP]

Do you find video AF in the A1 to be much better than the A7iv?

[@mauben1]

The still not resolved issue is whether the A7R5 is able to “stick” the af-c on a rapidly moving human subject or not (street photography scenario). Differently from my previous A9, my current A7R4 is unreliable: it puts a green square on face (recognition range is about a paltry 6 meters away), af-c nominally follows, but the photo is soft 80% of times. I am currently debating between buying a used A1 or an A7R5 (same price), but having owned A7R, A7R2 and now A7R4, I had shooting experiences not aligned with Sony claims.

[@goodwolf152]

This is pure speculation, but I get the feeling that Sony generally prefers to add new features/capabilities via updated hardware (read: new camera bodies) rather than via firmware/software updates. They clearly like to maintain separation between their models, and I think they like having each of their cameras offer completely different capabilities, such as to not cannibalize sales from any single model. That’s not to say they would NEVER bring those new features to A1, but it seems more likely to happen as a response to competition (e.g. Canon) rather than as a response to their own internal innovations/advancements.

[@alsteiner7602]

A highly irritating trend

[@goodwolf152]

@@alsteiner7602 agreed. One could argue that this strategy would be more defensible if they dropped the price of their flagships to be commensurate with the current market standards, but of course they don’t do that. The A1 is still full price (generally), even though it clearly lags now in some important areas by 2022 standards. In order for the A1 to truly justify holding its launch price, you would think it would need to get simple stuff like focus mapping or breathing compensation. If they don’t want to do that, OK, but then don’t charge $6,500 for it anymore.

[@alsteiner7602]

@@goodwolf152 word

[@nowuknowthis1903]

Your comment is speculation. We’re you ever a firmware developer?

[@goodwolf152]

@@nowuknowthis1903 my very first sentence acknowledged it was speculation, lol. Nice work, lol.

[@razafiarisonmichael4421]

I love the a7RV, I want it but it will take time. IMO the release of the a7RV made the release of R6 II a bit mediocre, but it's just a personal opinion.

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Canon EOS R5 II is in the pipe now for Q2 2023.

[@Slipsch]

The crop and rolling shutter is a killer for video. If only they minimally give us a stacked sensor or dual processor, either 1, it will still make the A1 flagship for speed, but for those who don't need speed like me. Would be my perfect camera. I guess I'll have to wait for the next generation of A1 before I upgrade.

[@nikolai_art]

Next generation of the A1 will cost double the price of the A7RV. It's that simple. They crammed a lot of stuff into this 4.000$ camera already. If you want to keep 61mp, but still want a stacked sensor this would cost 10k$. Not that hard to understand really. It's a photo centric camera. If you need great video first, buy an FX3. If you need speed, but not the high resolution, wait for the A9III that is coming soon. If you need high resolution, with slower speed, get this A7RV. If you want it all in one body, buy the 7k$ A1, or wait for the 8k$ A1II.

[@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo]

The A7S 3 better for video?

[@kanaheiusagi]

Really hope Sony will bring out the a9III sooner with every new feature that the a7rV has. And please add the feature to switch between animal subjects with the joystick.

[@line_prod_]

This is a hella good comparison !

[@Vipulpatan]

plz make r5 videos in low light, and plz make video m4 vs r5 video

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Check @taylorjacksonphoto video about this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3qlYaqXaZprrqs

[@markrigg6623]

Yes the A7riv has some well known "issues", and the new camera addresses this. Its much more responsive with the newer processer.

[@SuperSdbaby]

Should I trade my A7S III for the A7R V or wait for 2023 release(s)?

[@jeroenvdw]

Depends on what you're shooting, A7S III is better for video and low light. A7R V more for portraits and landscapes.

[@DangLeProject92]

Which one handle noise at high iso better in photo mode, Magic?

[@Existensmaximum]

Fantastic video. This really reassured me that the A7RV will be a perfect camera for my use! Also: subscribed

[@ViewfinderMastery]

Great comparison. Thanks for this! 👍

[@rushinroulette]

it is not right: sony a1 with 4k 120fps has a crop factor of 1.13

[@rachel7550]

I’ve seen some things saying it does a stop better in low light then the a7riv, do you know if this is true 🤔

[@77HARE]

Is this true?

[@gjb7966]

hi! could you comment a little bit on color science differences between the two? have you noticed improvements overall or would you say they are identical in that regard?

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

It's hard to judge at this point as Lightroom cannot read RAWs, I have to convert them using exiftool, meaning I don't have exact color profile for A7RV in LR. Please come back in couple of weeks, when LR have this sorted and I'll check!

[@fouuladvand48]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Yeah would be nice to know if there is an improvement. The gap from RIII to SIII was huge and I lose a lot of time to adjust the RIII colours even with a colour checker. All the released models since the SIII handle this way better.

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

I've heard others like the colors of the A7IV better than the A1 for people and I think I am in that crowd as well. That appears to be the case when I shot a few weekends in a row with the A7IV then the A1 and then an Canon EOS R5. I'm hoping the same is true for the A7RV as well with its adaptive WB that supposedly the AI chip helps facilitate. For me its a very important issue since I already sold my A7IV in anticipation.

[@In3rt_ia]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but something about the colours of the images from the a7rv just don’t feel very natural to me. I find them to be overly bright and more saturated that doesn’t match the original subject. Its the first thing I noticed in the launch video as well as some other video comparing to the previous model. However, I do not see alot of people mentioning this.

[@KarstenMeyer]

Great comparison, very interesting - thank you. What about a (maybe used) A9 (i) for silent shutter and fast burst rate - together with a A7R v for all other situations?

[@sicilyusa83]

thats exactly what i am gonna do! i am not gonna change my A9 until the new A9III come out!

[@JB-re1bt]

@@sicilyusa83 same here

[@Aroundtheworld-ew6rx]

A faster readout could be a software update. Old code can make a slow camera faster like using int instead of long variables. But this would ruin camera sales.

[@peternguyen7011]

A non stacked sensor will NEVER perform like a stacked sensor. Non stacked sensor will still run into rolling shutter issue, banding, etc... It's a hardware limitation. There were cases that camera manufacturers release firmware updates to reduce rolling shutter but that only helps to a certain degree. Again, hardware limitation.

[@DangLeProject92]

Hi Magic. May I ask when you shooting wedding, you always choose uncompress raw or lossless compress raw? Some one tell me I can choose lossless compress raw (M) and I can get the 21MP files size instead 50MP. Is it correct?

[@foxtowercommunications]

The backlit test, walking through the leaves. Brilliant work, Magic! Thanks so much. Now I wait for A75 - LOL! :)

[@tusamamba3551]

You're gonna wait a while ....

[@kkorzeniec]

Sony should make A9mk3 aka A1mini - 20FPS/24mpix/stack sensor/A7RV screen/AI chip - omggggggg :D

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

make it >30mp and I'm first in the line! :)

[@sicilyusa83]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer totally agree! 30mp and i am the happiest person on planet

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

I know you probably have not shot with the the Canon EOS R5 but as a photo camera, hold that thought on video, it and the new Sony A7RV are very comparable and the EOS R5 is two years older. AF wise that might be true based on my recent R5 evaluation. Sure the Canon is only 45 Mpixels but does have both faster Mechanical and Electronic shutter and both at less than $3900 here in the US. Have you had a chance to compare these?

[@AdamMuise]

The viewfinder on the a1 only makes a difference only for me in birds in flight situations.

[@kifley19]

A1 is too expensive to have such a crappy screen. It also doesn't flip out.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Yup. I do agree.

[@erichly]

Just waiting on A1 mk2 🤞 with the new screen

[@DBZnetwork]

@@erichly at a price of $10k 😂

[@hunterxhunter6957]

I also watch your video tutorials and reviewing sony things im a solid sony fanatic ciao!! Grazie

[@MrBennyrick77]

When your doing this as a job your priorities are just take a great photo with awesom lighting. No flippy screen is going to stop that. Trust in a camera that does multiple things well is why we have the A1. Something pro photographers get.

[@BridONeill]

Can you use L Bracket with the new articulating screen??

[@JamesClark1991]

Finally a RAW file noise comparison. Good video!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Glad you liked it! Also IDK if you missed this is the ISO comparison I did vs A7IV - you can download converted RAW files: www.dropbox.com/sh/63xrrs4igpat2tp/AAAIGxaEQ7IOAo0rQdd4OEJra?dl=0

[@JamesClark1991]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Hero 🖤

[@FernandoTrindadePT]

Hey... Is that Praia da Ursa, at Portugal, around 5:00?

[@damianhdm]

So, how about the ibis and this new pixel merging tech in r v ?

[@calabashdiggeradventures]

Thank you !

[@hunterxhunter6957]

So what do you recommend??? Im a regular photographer i dont like sport i love street people animal im solid photographer not videographer tnx mate!!

[@marcusgregory9571]

I feel like the A1 mk2 gonna change the market tho lol Like everyone should know that camera will make this seem like a a7c. I may upgrade one of my 2 a7iv’s to this camera tho and keep my other one as my B camera

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

haha I hope so!

[@sansinutube]

How is Sony A1 better than Nikon Z8, which is 2.5k cheaper?

[@Daniel-px8xg]

8:10 how does your focus mode change so quickly? Usually if I set mine to tracking or whatever it doesn’t change

[@pattespattes]

thanks @magic for this video. when I use the small flex box with people detection on the a7riv and the a7iv with a lot of peoples in a busy frame there is always a time where the camera decided to make a focus not on the zone of the flex box, and that make me crazy... it's still the same on the new a7riv ?

[@tarasshevchenko7772]

Looking for a camera with a global shutter.

[@lumoshu4434]

Bruhhh… have u never noticed the improvement in IBIS in a7rv??? It was so significant yet u ignored it, kinda a bummer😑

[@hANBinhanbin]

09:08 Can I ask what are the tripods you used in this video? Kind of like the ballhead.

[@hANBinhanbin]

Aha, it's MH494-BH

[@major-Mihailo-Madzarevic]

*A7R5 rules.*

[@dkastra26]

the a1 has a lot better screen as the A7RIV, so it can't be the 1.44mio dot display. I think in the a1 is the 2.36mio dot display from the a7RIV-A!

[@joelferguson-a7r5]

Did the A1 get the updated firmware?!?!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Nope

[@Philipanko]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Runors have it potentially occuring in early 2024/

[@BenelliMr]

this is totally unfair: 😀 playing with two such fantastic cameras and such a fantastic model (your wife) 😇😇

[@anthonysmith9864]

Are you related to Rowan Bettjeman from viva la dirt league? 🤔

[@Slipsch]

Canon R6 mark II have a similar or better autofocus without a dedicated chip.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I haven’t had a chance to use it

[@jimmybolf2001]

Is the A7RV better than the A6000 when it comes to stills?

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Yes

[@jimmybolf2001]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Okay which is worth it A7 IV or A7RV?

[@NT_1]

@@jimmybolf2001 A7Rv all day

[@rghurst]

It IS NOT complicated. The A1 is a better camera ... PERIOD. That doesn't mean the RV is a bad camera, but it ain't an A1!

[@dwightsbeetfarms3611]

Nobody talks about electronic front curtain messing up bokeh in the bright sunlight with fast primes. So for me as a wedding photographer a stacked sensor is a must. Even though I love the new display on RV 🥲

[@jeroenvdw]

Not sure how it messes up the bokeh, but if it's worth it then wait for the A9III, I guess it'll be released pretty soon.

[@deepseaslay6294]

Just bought a used A1 Sony needs to update firmware! Starting to get ridiculous and I think their excuse may not be they exact truth

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I'm 76,3% sure they will update A1. They did a massive update to A9 bringing real time tracking 2 years after launch! Fingers crossed they do the same for A1!

[@fouuladvand48]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer They have to and also update the SIII with animal AF and Focus compensation as well as the FX3. If they don't do it, people will be pissed and lose their brand loyality. Sony thinks only about profits but keeping the expensive cameras (> 3.000€) updated with things that the lower models are capable to do should be a must. They should think in long terms and not short minded like Canon for example with their stupid RF-Mount policy which they will regret in some years realising their mistakes.

[@Vipulpatan]

good compair brother

[@rubendeloof2371]

Hi, I'm curious, which of the two cameras has the most photos in focus (at the same burst speed) when a subject quickly walks towards or away from the camera. I have already seen more than 10 reviews, but no one has done this test yet. It would be fantastic to seen this. I think maybe the most interesting test...

[@gordonyz4]

Should be a1 because more time a7r5 will be reading sensor instead of focusing.

[@benoittissier58]

That would be the right test ! I shot people running with the A7iv. Subject recognition : perfect. Tracking : great. Focusing : only 30 % of the pics are sharp.

[@jeroenvdw]

I was wondering the same thing at first, but having learned about A9/A1 stacked sensors and better readout the clear winner in this is the A1. A9/A9II should be about equal as the A1.

[@fouuladvand48]

Thanks for comparison. It is unblievable, that Sony didn't use the A1 shutter for the RV, as the RV is the much slower camera and needs a fast mechanical shutter due to the fact that with all the downsides of a non stacked sensor ES is not usable without big issues. I can't understand this! But one important thing about your statements: Of course it is crippled down to force people to buy the SIII. 4K60 would have been easily possible. The Canon R5 from 2020 has even 4K120 since 2x years man! Also it allows 20FPS. This 15MP more is not the reason to cripple down the cameras so much. As soon as the Canon R5 II. will come out everybody will see how Sony is making fun about their customers by crippling down the cameras. Even the R6II. can shoot 40FPS in comparison the A7IV only shoots 10FPS. The answer of Sony to your question about firmware updates is a big joke. Of course they can add focus stacking to the A7IV, they can add focus breathing compensation to the A1 and SIII as well as focus mapping and animal AF. Sony has a horrible firmware policy which makes us super angry and I spend a lot of cash into their eco system and my SIII doesn't even has features that the FX30 or the A7IV have. My old RIII never got the better menu neither even the red crosshair. You don't need a better processor to add a different colour crosshair or blue Focus peaking color mode. This is terrible! I will get myself the RV, but only because the A1 comes with this crappy low resolution flip out screen that is a clear No Go for a flagship camera.

[@networm64]

Man I just hope sony see real customers comment about this big issue before it's too late. I'm so pissed off when I see even flagship models have been kept out for over a couple of years. Watching other brands real firmware updates for their entry to mid range models is a big big pain indeed. Sony has never ever given a single update to any crop body other than stupid minor updates which you can't even sense what have been changed at all! Why even a model like A7riva which is a 2021 model surprisingly anyway haven't got any firmware updates? Adding lossless raw or smaller sized raw and focus bracketing is not possible with older processor? I don't think so!

[@raghunathreddy4519]

I love Sony camera

[@sputnickers]

To literally claim that the A7RV shoots better video is beyond embarrassing, and makes me question everything else you say. Wrt video the A1 does not crop at (1.24) and does not suffer from massive rolling shutter, ALSO: a7rv has no image stabilization in 8k. Not sure what the story is with A1.

[@NT_1]

A1 is a speed beast. I'm sure it has overall better video features. I love my A7RV. The video is so clear and high resolution. Too clear actually. It shows small imperfections and things you might not want seen. Same thing with photos.

[@Marc-op3ov]

If price is not a issue the A1 is simply the best, for wildlife the sony A7R 5 is less or more useless if the subject is moving, I have the A7R 5 and I’m really fustraded

[@NT_1]

i love my A7r5

[@deebee68]

I don’t believe the A7 R5 will ever focus as well or as fast as the A1.

[@Valleedbrume]

Buy two a7-4’s 😊

[@andersistbesser]

I did not like the a1 because of the shitty screen and now the7r5 has a perfect one

[@Mattrossphoto]

I’m a beauty portrait guy. I love my a7riv, the autofocus can be annoying, but it’s easily fixed with the touch screen for me. I’m torn between the a1 and rV..that 400 shutter speed, and the speed for dance stuff would be amazing for me. The A7rV seems like no brainer….but damn I do want to upgrade to the 70-200ii as well. Frustrating 😂

[@RichardoBrit]

If you get the A7RV, then you save $2600… which coincidentally is basically the price of the 70-200. So you can get the A7RV + lens for the price of the A1

[@andersistbesser]

R4 autofocus not good?😳

[@fouuladvand48]

Wait for the A9III with 33MP. That will make you happy!

[@RichardoBrit]

@@fouuladvand48 Good call! And so long as the price is more like Canon (holding still) vs. Sony (continuously going up), then I think that will be a great upgrade. Hope it’s soon…

[@fouuladvand48]

@@RichardoBrit I guess in Springtime!

[@nowuknowthis1903]

Finally someone who understands embedded software limitations

[@stellarshotsstudio]

Sold my a7rv for a1 A1 is beast

[@papsny]

Huh? It's no brainer... A1. The A7RV is a A7RIV sensor with some upgrades. The A1 is a league of it's own. Not even a comparison

[@RyanREAX]

Old screen. No Medium RAW.. color science on A7R5 is better. Also those 10+ extra MP.. and $2600 cheaper

[@RichardoBrit]

First, Sony A1 is just too expensive for what it is. I mean, the Nikon Z9 is $1,000 less and offers more (but is very large). I think it should be closer to $5,500. But it has some major drawbacks: (1) the rear screen is far too low-res and they launched it at the same time as launching the higher-res “A” versions of A7RIV with a higher-res rear screen. Why? And (2) they haven’t shown any commitment to it in terms of firmware updates. Look at the Z9 - they are on firmware 3.0 and each update has been BIG. Why hasn’t Sony updated the A1 with the features they launched in more mainstream A7IV and A7R5? I own an A7RIII and I would buy a Sony flagship if it was priced more reasonably and they were committed to it with firmware updates vs. leaving owners out to dry until they release a Mkii version.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Hard to tell if we’re gonna get A1 update or not. I do believe we will, but only time will tell. Pricing comparison to Nikon system doesn’t make much sense, it’s other system, the one that is dropping is sales very bad, so price of the flaship might be just aggressive pricing strategy from Nikon. Count in price and availability for lenses and that 1k difference becomes irrelevant. Nevertheless I do agree with your screen comment.

[@RichardoBrit]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I hope so! I have a good collection of Sony lenses but the more cautious upgrades of late vs Canon has me seriously looking over to Canon before I make my next body purchase. Time will tell

[@frankwieczorek5112]

Yea, you never know what Sony is doing, both of my RX1R never got an update, my A9 got two and improved clearly. I'll by an A1M2 if the screen gets better resolution and the price drops 1k,or hoping for an A9III

[@RichardoBrit]

@@frankwieczorek5112 yes - agree with that.

[@renestaempfli1071]

It is actually cheaper, considering that I could use it one year earlyer than the Z9. One year additional shooting generates more than $1000.

[@mickue]

IMHO this "we cripple down the camera" is just an excuse.

[@josephphotography4127]

Of course the A7R5 is better, its 2,500$ cheaper lol

[@jassasingh539]

You will not be disappointed when you Take A1 to any event. But a7Rv will disappointed you if you take it to any sports event or a wild photography. Comparing A1 to A7RV is like a comparing a Cheetah to a snail.

[@eccentricsmithy2746]

Sony A7R3A is all you need, anything bigger is overkill.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

What do you mean? For what type of photography?

[@highwayman1224]

LMAO!! 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@tarasshevchenko7772]

I love the comparison because you highlight the fact that software can't fix hardware characteristics. Technically, you can reach the level of R5 with more clever algorithms.

[@Super01041994]

To be honest, r6mk2 and even the Og r6 have amazing tracking autofocus with boxes around subjects that a7r5 just introduced and who's autofocus isn't ground breaking. Sony slept too much and they were too confident in their autofocus, so much that Canon caught up or even surpassed. Hopefully a1ii will be a true flagship in with all the bells and whistles.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I did have a shootout between A1 and R6 (mark I) and R6 was falling behind. Still impressive AF, great catch up by Canon for sure

[@renestaempfli1071]

Not really when it comes to fast moving subjects. The A1 is still more reliable.

[@aditya.anurag.]

Sony A7 r mark series are continuously in development track.. Where sony neither focusing on it's A1 series nor any improvements frm last 2 years. If this happens one day Sony A7 r mark series are going to rule

[@xandrekeize4169]

Came here for wedding content disappointed tho all you do is review gear like everyone else 😕. Not hating but wish you'd do more videos about weddings getting certain shots tips or whatever some meaningful content.

[@justonbrazda3846]

I watched almost the whole thing. Up until you said the RV has better AF than the A1. HA. Try shooting a bird in flight with the RV then get back to me. Try shooting a dog running at you then get back to me.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Haven’t shot that, but knowing the improvements they implemented in better animal recognition (recognizing animal body just like they did with human) and bird 🦅 autofocus, I’m pretty much sure it’s superior just like with humans.

[@trials6]

Jared Polin also stated the RV has better AF just not as fast and Manny Ortiz also stated the same and showed for people the RV is clearly the winner at least on people

[@justonbrazda3846]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer It may be able to identify objects better, but it can not focus as fast. If a dog is running at me sprinting, I don't care if my camera knows what it is, I just care that it focuses on it as quickly as possible.

[@markrigg6623]

Owto focus 😂