Is the Stadium to blame?

[@telephonic]

Crazy how you left the intimidating Upton Park for this corporate bowl..Shame on your owners

[@daneevans7590]

telephonic shame on the fans for supporting this. Sold their souls for better results. Wish them the worst of luck

[@claretandbluearmy8014]

Daniel Jones what could the fans do

[@stevenpoke2367]

City fan here. We had the same issue when we first got the Etihad (an athletics stadium originally). The only solution to get the seats right up to pitchside is to lower the pitch and then put in extra rows of seats. Probably cost a packet to do this but its worth it.

[@whuzak]

Steven, at the Etihad did they actually complete restructure each individual stand to bring it closer to the pitch? Just curious to know

[@stevenpoke2367]

No, they just dug out the ground so that the pitch is lower than ground level - you notice it when you go in the stadium - the pitch is "underground". This then enables you to put in extra rows of seats that are still on a slope until they reach pitchside. I think theyve done it twice but obviously theres a limit because every time you do it the area available for the pitch gets less and less. I do think however that when the stadium was built for the Commonwealth games, the agreement was in place from the outset for City to move in so it was designed specifically to be converted into a football stadium afterwards. Not sure if they did this with the London stadium but they don't seem to have considered the distance from stands to pitch.

[@floeha4617]

Good idea but I think this isn't possible because we don't own the stadium, it's just rented.

[@stevenpoke2367]

City don't own the Etihad it is owned by Manchester City Council but they have good relations with them .The agreement was always in place for City to be tenants and they have been allowed to drop the pitch twice and expand the south stand. A third tier will go on the north stand next. Not sure what kind of arrangement West Ham have with the owners of the stadium but surely its everyones interests to make the club and fans happy with a stadium fit for football?

[@joelcoyi8939]

dropping the pitch would be a great idea. i read about this the other day when i was wondering how the etihad is so close even though it was originally built for athletics. only trouble is with the olympic stadium i think ( might be wrong) that part of the lease agreement was to keep the running track thats why they have got that retractable seating. its a nice stadium just not for football. maybe when the two daves sell up we will get a new owner who has the passion and funds to build a new boleyn. we can dream!

[@charliewhu66]

Looks like father and son

[@WESTHAMFANTV]

Haha either Dan looks a lot younger than he is or Nicky looks a lot older than he is

[@whuzak]

Nicky, could you not push the Etihad model after this season finishes if you manage to get on the advisory board? Excavate the running track and create a new tier? Or does the LLDC state the track remains? Can't remember.

[@charliewhu66]

+West Ham Fan TV a little bit of both😂⚒

[@jackwells2423]

Pitch is too far away however atmosphere isn't going to be electric when we're playing how we are each week at the moment-good video lads

[@butzee]

Im sorry to say it but we've been sold a pup!!! Too far away, temporary seating, players know this and management know this too!! The length of a cricket wicket from fans to the pitch, if your up in the gods you really need binoculars FACT!!! The worst thing is its not going to get better until someone with real money comes in and makes this running track a football stadium! Why didn't we make any noises re leaving UP? Heartbreaking is what our demise will be!!!

[@matttopcat9677]

dig the pitch lower and build the stands closer into the pitch or face a 100 years of poor atmosphere ..simple really lol ..

[@matttopcat9677]

I think they will eventually

[@HTCGaming1000]

The running track will be used whenever an athletic event comes to the UK. It is still the Olympic Stadium after all, and the national athletics stadium.

[@stonkez8452]

Your opinions are of no relevance. Mr Coe didn't become a Lord by winning a lottery. The guy ran round a track better than other people ages ago, so his opinion as to the necessity of running tracks is infinitely more relevant than yours or indeed mine.😩💬⚪⚬

[@Mr.Wrong1]

That sounds like a good idea with ticket trading. At Arsenal there was no thought going forward with keeping fans together going in to the Emirates Stadium. Traditionally it was the North Bank and Clock End that generated the majority of noise at Highbury. They should have thought about keeping fans together in similar sections going in to the new stadium. The atmosphere in the Emirates has suffered ever since. It takes time to build relationships with people say around you. It never ceases to amaze me when clubs take things like this for granted. You boys made Upton Park a great venue to come to. Great atmosphere and a tough place to play. That new stadium is not fit for football and your owners knew it. That's what must hurt every fan. Yeah more cash is nice but football is about the fans. We don't care how rich our clubs are we just want to see passion, effort and skill on the pitch. And have a half decent view of the game among friends in the stands. Good luck to you lads but I feel for you. Should never have left your home.

[@poontang3zizo]

Didn't you guys say that the new stadium was "beautiful" and "fantastic" at the start of the season? hahahahaha Your club's in the shitter. Get used to it

[@WESTHAMFANTV]

poontang3zizo it is beautiful, it is fantastic, it's just the way it's run

[@wwerocks335]

It's just annoying that were so bad it's the players attitude to blame personly

[@jordanallen292]

James Mason totally agree mate

[@juanc7239]

James Mason West Ham is getting relegated and they are trying to make excuses because your team is full of crap and shit. Your team is also rubbish because West Ham can't create chances at all. HALA MADRID BITCH!

[@juanc7239]

James Mason Even Southhsmpton is doing better than West Ham. Your team is embarrassing to watch because they can't create chances which disgust me every time I watch them just to lose!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂HALA MADRID BITCH!

[@Anfubvinch]

Madrid cunts are the worst. Most of them don't even know the first thing about football

[@raythompson9012]

Anyway barca are the best team in spain by far loooool

[@chumbawumba4926]

tbh Upton Park was unique a proper old style ground, you're in an athletics stadium, not a football stadium

[@Chris155au]

What a joke of a football stadium. Worst football stadium in the world? (Regardless of capacity, facilities and nice looks)

[@parka253]

i'm gutted watching this,and previous videos. seeing real Hammers fans hurting from what could have been avoided. big love from Vietnam xx

[@TrephineArtist]

We can't blame the stadium, that's the easy way out! The signs of this poor run have been there for a while, since perhaps the Man U replay or more obviously the Swansea game (1-4) last season. Both played at the Boleyn!

[@hammerinexile]

How many of the 4 goals conceded at west brom Away were due to the stadium?? Our defensive play is abysmal which is the real problem...we go a goal down and have no leaders...other teams have sussed us bigtime Nothing to do with the stadium I actually believe the atmosphere has been half decent over there all things considered...a few wins and that will get even better!

[@harryday9973]

Cant believe no one stood up to gold sullivan brady money making nothing else RIP west ham

[@27juggernaut29]

It's not the stadium it's the pressure off another 15k+ fans. At the end of the day a pitch is a pitch and the players need to go out and do their job. Sick of everyone blaming the stadium

[@alphaharps]

I was further away at Wembley for the Blackpool play off game. and the noise was raucous. Obviously a play off everyone sings. But it shows in a big stadium you can make noise. We haven't got many songs, where is the creativity. However remember how loud it was at 2-0 up against Watford. Until some booing started in the BML and Watford then scored. The rest is downhill

[@harewood1988]

There must be a way to move the seats closer, that can't be the best they can do

[@riordanosullivan602]

Hope that fans board goes well Nicky 👍🏻

[@TheFamousMileEnd]

It's far away, bit of a monstrosity, it's not a football ground, BUT, if the club worked with the supporters instead of against them, we could make it home. But my worry is they don't want to work with us, they won't to Americanise the place and create a place without the rough around the edges West Ham support.

[@paolowhu]

Move the dug outs closer to the technical area. Bilic and other manager are isolated out there, needs to be closer to the bench.

[@TheCrescentFusilier0961]

look at the old Wembley or even now Hampden Park, not really that close to the pitch but still great atmosphere

[@jacklloyd9137]

Does anyone know why I can't load videos ?

[@lawless130]

close youtube app and reopen fresh if not try clear chache

[@MrScottyk90]

imo i think its due to the pitch being larger, more space which means more running which means more energy used means more tired players

[@spaccadootoohoo2158]

Why not just build another 20 rows of seats right by the pitch and have them retractable. True this would obstruct the views of the equivalent seats behind. But if you leave those empty it's no different as a section of space to the empty space between the current row 1 and the pitch. So just relocate the empty zone from pitch-row 1 to, say, row 20-40. Problem solved.

[@matttopcat9677]

it just looks cheaply put together and too distant for a real atmosphere ..very poor stadium for football ..it's like the old Italian stadiums that clubs like juventus couldn't wait to get out of .

[@PercyPlant]

I agree the stadium is partly to blame for the terrible form, but we were elite away from home last year and as of yet have 0 points away from home. Blame the whole atmosphere around the club getting to the players

[@raythompson9012]

great video by the way

[@RCurran617]

At the end of the day if these smaller clubs are able to come in and score 3 or 4 goals against us in the London Stadium, why can't we do it? We've had more matches in the stadium then they have including the pre-season games, but they seem to be able to perform. Out of 6 premier league games we've lost 5 and they've not all have been at home... The form of our team is shocking at the moment. I was blaming the defence at the beginning purely for letting in so many goals but now our attacking half isn't even creative enough. With players such as Zaza, Lanzini, Antonio and Payet up front there's no excuse. As a fan there's nothing you can do but sit back and watch these games on edge... it's awful

[@sagahammer]

Nothing wrong with the pitch or the atmosphere. When we were two up against Watford the roar in the ground was deafening. It is a shame that we have been giving free gifts of goals to mediocre teams. Fuck all to do with the stadium. We are badly organised in defence and our full backs are being isolated time and time again. There is also poor communication and our midfield give the ball away cheaply.

[@TB.....]

Good idea regarding ticket swap. Well worth a try. Patience though people. The season is still young. No time to panic...and just keep singing regardless. Showing your frustrations is always counter productive. I remember getting thrashed by Forest 4 nil fa cup semi final at villa park and we just kept on.."Billy Bond's claret n blue army".... just support.Itll turn itself around

[@raythompson9012]

every other team taking the piss out of westham new stadium are the mugs..cause guess what you helped us pay for it and I hope you have to pay more tax too...😂😃

[@paulobrien6919]

At some stage the players are going to have to take the blame. They are not putting the effort in and are living on last years relative success. We have known for 4 years we were moving to Stratford so to blame the stadium is bullshit. If the players put in a proper performance the crowd will always get behind them.

[@SI-cd7xs]

Us Arsenal fans could've told you what a shit move moving to a souless plastic bowl would be. They sold you the same 'compete with the top clubs' rubbish as they did us when in truth the major shareholders are just increasing their assets while they sell off your club.

[@raythompson9012]

what happened to the retractable seats...or was we gonna get that on a loan deal aswel lool

[@WESTHAMFANTV]

The retractable seating is already there mate just haven't been designed to be much closer to the pitch

[@raythompson9012]

Oh ok fear enough. .so that was a waste of time then

[@raythompson9012]

I actually thought the retractable seating was gonna go over the running track so fans could be closer to the pitch

[@madting1663]

I thought that as well lol

[@TrephineArtist]

It's there but stupidly hardly brings the fans closer to the pitch, on the sides at least, behind the goals the stands are closer. I hope they're re-designed, if not then get the Hammerettes on there, would be far more interesting than the match.

[@tonylebron8313]

blaming the stadium is just a distraction has nothing to do how we are performing if we were top of the table would hardly get a mention

[@frankpickles7019]

When is the next Dan and jase FIFA I need cheering up big time been so upset this week

[@lawless130]

its up tomorrow nate mate when FIfa 17 is out we promise to win haha

[@fmmad8959]

I LOVE YOU NICKY

[@JammyDo]

the stadium isn't the main reason the hammers are losing. it's the players and coach. west hams back 4 are just pure shambles. at times I see 2 central defenders overlapping each other onto one side and full backs were nowhere to be seen. there needs to be more discipline and structure in your defence. you may be able to steal a goal but it would be useless if you leak 4. this should be hammers main priority at the moment. fix your defence and grind out games until the next window.

[@westhamboy95]

It's not the stadiums fault that we lose 4-2 to west brom

[@LvVanSon]

good video

[@njclondon2009]

tottenham haven't been playing so well at their new stadium, nor did arsenal when they first moved to the emirates, come one guys, it's a blip at our new spanking stadium!

[@jacktheladstevens]

Phil and Grant

[@Asaint100]

Get the impression they`re not fans of the new stadium

[@theobvu]

Olympic Stadium is not a proper football stadium The name explains itself. HAHAHA

[@SoulfulAde]

Beautiful stadium. 🤗

[@666demonknight666]

The field looked soo much smaller from TV. Is it because of the angle? I watched it on tv and I"m sorry to say the stadium is rubbish

[@bensollitt9258]

Can't be to blame just look at your West Brom performance

[@MrJoethehammer]

Was this part of the Fifa thing that they had going on during the week or did you lads sneak into the ground?

[@lawless130]

Yeah we were invited to the the Fifa 17 event

[@hammer_78_89]

Allardyce sacking. Just watched the interview and as much as I dislike him, think it was harsh to sack him. Poxy FA have got Southgate now. Careful what you wish for.

[@Randoms620]

he resigned

[@raythompson9012]

fucking harsh..he's been as bent as a 3 pound note from day 1 and he's son..and I reckon the fa set him up to see if he would take the bait .and the greedy fucker couldn't wait to bite😅

[@MrBboyflexibi]

Slaven Bilic isn't a TOP manager anws. Last season he already lost so many games in the last part of the season

[@jordanallen292]

Forget about the fucking stadium ffs. We are hear now so let's worry about this. All this "we should have never left upton park" it's a load of shit. And finally lets stop this "bilic out" lark.

[@jordanallen292]

Here*

[@lawless130]

The stadium needs work no one is talking about leaving it and going back to upton park

[@wizzo66]

all well and good doing ticket swaps but still trying to get us to sit in the Bobby Moore Lower and some stewards have been making up false stories of abuse towards them in order to throw out standers. was still happening against Southampton. the club is rotten from within now.

[@indiechana9771]

Shittest stadium in the top 4 divisions! Couldn't happen to a more worthy club! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gofastandwynn]

Keep Nicky far from the board. He only gives the worst possible version of how it is. Last year he was bitching about ticket prices, about purchasing prices, about the board lying to the fans. Every week Nicky is complaining and saying "It's an atrocity, what the club are doing." The Nazi's didn't commit as many atrocities as Nicky claims the board & Brady have.

[@WESTHAMFANTV]

gofastandwynn I respect you're opinion, and you're entitled to it. I have been supporting this club all my life. I have been through the ups and the downs , highs and lows, tough times and great times in the last 30 years I've been going. I've seen players , managers, back room staff, chairman, tea lady's kit men physios , you name it I've seen them come, and go. The only consistency I've ever seen in this club, the 1 thing that is there , through all of these times is the fans. People traveling up and down the country, week in week out, spending hard earned money for the right to do so. The same faces on the terraces, in the bars, on the concourses. The heart beat of the football club , the 1 thing that cannot and will not change is us. I praise the board, when it's due. I was full of praise when they released the ticket prices for this year, that's great good job! But I'm not going to praise them when they fuck over the people that are this club. Moving us into a stadium that quite clearly is not only not designed for football, but isn't safe either. Giving people Who have been standing on every terrace since the late 70s LIFE bans for doing something they have been doing for 40 years, just because it affects the opportunity to make more money by having extra seats. Selling out owned home , then moving into a rented place but filling the squad with free transfers and loans to scrape by when the opportunity is there to make this stadium a fortress! The list can go on and on and on, but do you know why I talk about the shit so much? Because it affects us, the heartbeat and core of this club, and i don't want to stand by and let the great people that support this club suffer in silence. If we keep quiet , like we have for so many years , they will keep fucking us over left right and centre. WHFTV was created to amass a following and give fans a platform to challenge this bollocks, because there is strength in numbers, but also to let them know when they are doing things the right way. Rest assured though, when they are doing the right things, you will hear that widespread , they will even tell you themselves. Things are shit, we have been lied to, we was ripped off for tickets the last season at the Boleyn, in fact they are still doing it now with the claret membership. If you are happy with them treating you like shit, and fleecing you at every opportunity, that's fine mate, go ahead, that's up to you, but myself, I haven't got blinkers on . I support the team , not the hierarchy.

[@marychid]

All that space is good.! You can have clowns & jugglers, like circus acts all messing about in front of the pitch. Much better to watch than that team, right,!

[@whufc-essex]

SIT DOWN

[@marcnews75]

UK Athletics have a 50 year lease on the London stadium and they want the athletics track, West Ham have a great ground on the cheap with taxpayers picking up the bill....yer should be overjoyed??

[@JJJJ-xw9tp]

Westham or not doing well

[@jackdarren483]

I don't like the London stadium at all, your far away from the pitch, the Stewart don't treat the fans with respect, the fans can't get autographs from their favourite player before kick off, and it's not a football stadium, it's a Olympic stadium. Give me the choice between the Boleyn Ground or the London Stadiums, I'd go the Boleyn Ground, because it was a great place to go and watch football.

[@monstermunch4956]

Feel sorry for you lads. That stadium is just so shit

[@paulbooth9025]

you cant blame the stadium! its not actually a surprise you moved home is it? everyone knew it was happening.. just a case of players underperforming..or was last season a one off? im not havin a go..coz weve had the same problems. i like west ham as a club..but unfortunately money is all this games about now and Sullivan and Gold seem to have gone about this really quickly..was there absolutely no chance of redeveloping the Boleyn ? must hurt leaving your spiritual home..so glad Lfc stayed at anfield..but anyway..i think ull turn it around..got to

[@markgable101]

What people don't realise historically on the continent and around the world football is mostly played huge cavernous stadiums with athletic tracks . Look at old tapes, European and world cup finals etc were played in Olympic stadiums.....It's only in Britain where football stadiums were traditionally close to the pitch with the exception of the old Wembley stadium. It's what made the old Wembley iconic because it was huge open stadium with the player emerging from behind the goal .. This particular new West ham stadium will take getting use too, but the secret is to take a proffessional approach. At Tottenhams training ground Pochettino has installed a playing surface the size of Wembleys playing area so players can get use to it. etc. Tottenham recently played in Australia at the MSG another enormous stadium with wide open spaces converted for football... You will just have to get use to the stadium and stop whinging. West ham to me are badly run. It seems to be run by non football business people..

[@daniellastuart3145]

life long West Ham fan and please stop moaning about the stadium . Loved Upton Park, but it was to small for the 21st century football . Any way about the results West Ham have always had the consistently of the British weather, no two games the same , even in the great day's of Moore, Hurst, Boorking and Bonzo. A part from the old year we would never go more the 3 or 4 game with back to back wins. Also we would beat a top side, but next game lose to the bottom side. Andlets honest this side is not as bad us the late 1980s early 1990s West Ham side there were awful

[@houchineriyad8847]

staduim to blâme? noooooooo!!!!

[@Samthomas2110]

Hahahah if you's want to blame the ground for losing 4-2 twice this season to below average teams then.... whatever lets you sleep easy eyy

[@442777johnson]

Said it b4..say it again.. it's not a football stadium. The same thing happened in Germany when B' Munich (I think) moved into their Olympic Stadium....after a few seasons they bite the bullet & had to move to s purpose built FOOTBALL STADIUM.....the same will happen with WHU. But b4 that they will be going down & I can see League one on the horizon. The pitch is so remote from the fans & players...the fans don't get the ADRENALIN & like wise for the players.....ADRENALIN is the twelth man........ That's our problem.....it's a Stadium from the '70's AKA Stamford Bridge. Move or refit as a football stadium....& don't cock it up this time!!!!!! or WHU could be reformed by the fans from scratch.

[@neilwalker342]

Nick why do you just keep blaming the stadium as you are clearly doing in this video ? why not address the real problem, we over achieved last season, and weakened the squad with selling Tompkins etc this summer and bringing in players that are just not good enough for the premier league. If we had won our home games you wouldn't keep banging on the same drum regarding the ground. Yes it has got problems, but they can be rectified in time with real engineering solutions, other clubs have done the same like man city. Address the real issues and stop using the ground as an excuse, we lost away so how can that be the grounds fault ? All your doing is constantly criticising and being negative, we are not going back to the Boleyn so we have to focus on getting behind our club not making it a mockery

[@WESTHAMFANTV]

Neil Walker I've spoke about that numerous times mate

[@stephenwolfejr4545]

1st like comment and view

[@Poshfan2878]

What a bunch of moaners you lot are, you move into the Olympic Stadium for basically nothing and you blame poor performances on the distance from the pitch. Oh look the defence made a mistake, oh look Payet gave the ball away, oh look Calleri skewed his shot wide. Don't worry guys it's not that we brought sub-standard players, it's not that the defence isn't organised enough, it's because the fans are a few metres further back. Do me a favour. Why don't you get real? a football pitch is a football pitch. Do you seriously expect us to believe that any mistakes made wouldn't have been made last season just because it was at the Boleyn. You seem to think that if the fans move forward a few metres then you lot will win the Champions League. Get real!

[@WESTHAMFANTV]

You're looking at it in far too simplistic terms mate

[@GrogakTheGreat]

Ben Jones Fans make the team. and if the fans feel disconnected, then a large portion of the club is broken, therefore resulting in massive widespread negativity. You are clearly looking at this very primitively.

[@Poshfan2878]

Sean Foley If you don't want to support your team now you've moved in to a new ground and you're now more interested in fighting and moaning then good for you, enjoy the Championship

[@GrogakTheGreat]

Ben Jones Didn't address anything i said, but whatever mate.

[@Poshfan2878]

Sean Foley ummmm think I did mate, you said the fans feel disconnected and the club is broken. What I'm saying is your fan base has chosen to react so negatively to this change, every other team would be excited but all your fans want to do is moan and oust the board that has completely turned the club around, maybe if you were just a little more open minded things would be different