Is the Suzuki GSX-8R a Beginner Bike? (Erm...)

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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:15 Low Down Torque
4:00 The Beginner Bike Rule
5:13 A Good 2nd Motorcycle?
6:10 Weight Issues
7:37 Ergonomics
8:03 Expense
9:06 Can A Beginner Handle It?
10:04 Learning Curve
10:40 Power Output
11:13 Final Thoughts

[@TheInfernoGear]

I just got the 8R in silver 4 weeks ago! I'm a brand new rider, I started in C mode with the traction control set to max and the power delivery is smooth and easy to control. It also has a setting that increases the throttle automatically when pulling out the clutch which made not stalling a breeze, I would definitely recommend it for a beginner as long as you have some self restraint. Just my 2 cents.

[@milodebruin4821]

Your first bike should also be something that can be easily resold.

[@richardsewell8657]

😂

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Yeah, right. I remember my motorcycle instructor telling our class that your first bike should be something that you're happy to take to the tip. Have a guess where my first bike ended up?

[@pmanning431]

Triumph trident 660 .

[@trplll100]

I just bought this as my first bike. As a bigger taller guy this is the only thing that is comfy for me. Have 120 miles on it after 3 days. Wish me luck.

[@jackstephens2519]

Just curious, how tall are you? I’m currently looking for my second street bike since I sold my Harley. I’m 6’4 and my biggest concern is being too cramped on the smaller bikes

[@Shiroikage98]

@@jackstephens2519 i am 6'2 and its awesome. nothing cramped

[@trplll100]

@@jackstephens2519 I am 6'1" and 270 pounds. I tried a ninja 650 and I felt really dumb and akward on it, this bike makes me feel like I look a lot less stupid and is comfy for me compared to any other bike like it I have sat on (sporty bikes at least). I compared the Mt-07, R7, Ninja 650, Honda cbr 500R, and this was the best. Insurance was still pretty cheap for this too if that matters.

[@tylerpitner3877]

I’m 6’1 and have a ninja 400. Only issue I ran into was needing an aftermarket exhaust cause the stock one was in the way and melted the heels off my boots

[@chiefyy710]

i got the 8s as my first bike bc im 6ft5... im over 2000 miles in and love it

[@rains00the]

Legend says that Yammie is still stuck behind that Tesla.

[@cameron5920]

So what you’re saying is get a bike that has low torque in the low and mid range… an R6 meets the description 🫡🦑

[@YacolJ]

Or any most naked bikes for that matter.

[@Black_Drako]

No it doesn't. R6 has no torque at all at low range

[@vonnthiessen8761]

First bike was a cbr600rr 2007. 2 years later I have a ZH2😂

[@shadowsfall42]

I just want to share as a beginner here myself, i got a 8s for my first bike 2 months ago, took a msf course and did some practicing around my work for a couple weeks , i started riding it in C mode because it smoothed the throttle alot and made it not so jumpy 2 months in and 1300 miles on it ive been riding in A mode and turned the traction control down, got comfortable with it fairly quickly i think and i love this bike i dont regret it at all for a first bike. Note: the only things i didnt care for is the lack of feeling/feedback from the dunlop roadsport 2s and the brake,clutch levers feel cheap

[@nwkking291]

Thank you for sharing this..i myself just purchased the 8R as my first bike a month ago and I've been doing the same as you, riding it in C mode and with traction control on and i feel pretty comfortable with it. No i haven't rode in A mode yet i wanna get a little more familiar with it before i try a more advanced mode but i think ill be fine over time. Having this over something like a 400 is i won't out grow it any time soon and have to pay out to upgrade!

[@mikegm6326]

I got the 8S as my first bike and rode it in C mode until 2000 miles. Main reason I sent with this over the mt07 was the riding modes, traction control. With riding modes you control more the delivery/output of the power. Not sure why yammie says the mt07 over this one. Mt07 doesn't has riding modes or traction control..

[@Talan274]

I got rid of those Dunlops and put some Road5's on. Big difference!

[@jimmytorello7041]

I started out on a Gixxer 750 in my 20s. At 45, my 390 Duke is exactly everything you mentioned, I’m not afraid to drop it, work on it, and it’s the weight and size that makes it great for my riding style. I’ve been on bigger , expensive bikes and I’m always thinking about what I don’t want to happen instead of just enjoying the riding experience.

[@noamhadas8345]

I love this series. This bike exited me a lot but I really want you to mention and ride and review a v storm for once

[@Talan274]

It's the perfect starter bike! Just start in C mode and work your way to A. 👍🏾

[@Zarings]

that’s what i’m doing 💯

[@ARodTC]

@@Zarings same

[@user-xv1ho5cu1v]

I purchased a 2018 SV650 3 weeks ago as my first bike. I am 5'5" and I love it. It has good manageable power delivery. But I am also am 29 years old with 7 years of motorcross experience, so I have throttle control and more techique than a brand new rider.

[@dice8372]

I'm definitely buying this as my first bike. Thank you for the recommendation Yammie guy.

[@BakerBikerGeshe]

I've been defending this machine since it was announced!!! roflmao but yeah EXACTLY the person papa Yams is talking to. I started riding in August on a Honda scl500, now with 5000 miles under my belt something like the gsx8r was made for me! It just seems like the perfect second bike, for people like me who recognize they don't want/need a 600+ 4 cylinder super for what they use a bike for but would still like to lean into the sportier side. Yammie does make some very solid arguments about bike for buck in its category and I'm glad he mentioned it because its got me looking around/soul searching. Epic vidja Yams, huge love from Fort Worth!!!

[@tapasr8107]

Hey Yammie, love your videos!!! Could you please give your thoughts on the new Aprilia RS 457 as a contender as a beginner bike? Interested to get that as my 1st bike by the end of this year.

[@nonyabusiness4151]

It's the beginner sportsbike for rich people. Over qualified. Would love to have got an rs660 for my second bike, but the cost had me go for a VFR instead. I'm very happy with it.. My first bike is a brand new Duke 390.. Great beginner bike. Key word beginner. The problem with spending a lot of money on your first bike is that you're overpaying for something you might crash and will probably sell within two years. Look at the used market. Saves you money for a better second bike, but it's your decision. You will not regret a single penny spent on your motorcycle.

[@ThaBootyBandit]

well it was designed for beginners so absolutely go for it, Like any Italian bike, maintain that warranty. It'll set you up nicely for the RS660 if you decide to upgrade which is another amazing bike.

[@Mrmoocows99]

I saw a wrecked one of these on the side of the road on my way to work today. Pulled over, asked if he was alright, the front of the bike was basically missing. Homie shouts he's alright, and he's got someone coming to pick him up. "Just making sure man!" I looked at the bike a little bit more, and said "Is that a 24 Gixxr8?" "It was..." I was on my way to work so I didn't have the time to ask him what happened. It was on a straight and open back road, and it was a beautiful day, my guess was he pulled a dank nooner, and slammed the front, and high sided.

[@k3y155]

In theory, I think I-4 engines can actually make for a solid beginner-friendly option, but they aren't treated as such because: 1) community-wide connotations that result in certain perceptions to non-riders/noobs, 2) engine type is rarely discussed, but riding style is (I-4 engine is not discussed, but sport riding is, for example; V-Twins aren't discussed, but cruising is, to name another), and 3) most beginner-sized bikes (hp, torque, etc.) aren't I-4's anyways. This is probably the biggest counterpoint to my case, and I don't exactly disagree with it either. However, this is a practical reason, and this is more of a thought experiment, so I'll concede the point and move on. As a whole, I think devoting more time to engine character would be very helpful for everyone, but especially beginners and those considered beginner-plus. I've been watching a lot of beginner bike videos recently (content algorithm has decreed I watch them), and I've realized is that the unspoken thing that everyone may not realize (including the content creators) is something Papa Yam kind of said in the video: beginner bikes need to have predictable powerbands (linear, perhaps), and torque is scarier than horsepower for a beginner. With that in mind, Inline-4 bikes do make a great case for beginner bikes, at least because of the engine character. Simply put, at no point in the bikes realistically-used rev ranges is the power/torque numbers you find listed ever really what you're experiencing; you actually have a much mellower bike than the spec sheet suggests. I feel pretty confident that the typical beginner wouldn't ever get one of these bikes because the bikes' wider reputation don't really push the demographic away anyways. That is not to say someone should get a middleweight 4-cylinder naked bike right off the bat, nor should they go for their sport bike counterparts, but not because it relies on self-control like many people say (all bikes rely on that, so it ultimately means nothing to me). I would say that most beginner riders aren't really thinking about rev ranges, and it's not something many people would discuss. Even in the community, people say I-4's need to revved high, which is only true if you want to push the bike like one would on a track. No one recommends that for the street anyway, so I would frame these bikes differently for beginners. They are bikes that require a lot of intention to get out of hand, so in a certain way they protect beginners from themselves.

[@paulconnell1309]

Wise advice. My first bike was a CBR500R. Fanatic bike that taught me how to ride. Perfect, loved it. In New Zealand we are restricted to 50 bhp for the first 12 months. Even the Ninja 650s and CBR650Rs are restricted here.

[@tedunguent156]

Great bike. Maybe the perfect beginner bike. Big enough to be fun and small enough for a learner.

[@Frank_Torre]

Exactly why I always recommend a Ninja 400 as a beginner bike. It's GOATED for a reason.

[@PissMissile-RR]

Or just get the 500 since they have the same price

[@justinyoface911]

@@PissMissile-RRJust get a used 300-400 that’s a few years old for half the price. Don’t buy a new 500, or even a used 500 with how new they are. At least that’s my opinion

[@cosmic_gate476]

ZX-4RR is the goat of small cc fun bikes

[@matchu13]

@@justinyoface911 just buy an older 600 it holds resale value better and honestly isnt very fast

[@justinyoface911]

@@matchu13 for a first bike a 600 is doable in terms of power, I feel like low speed maneuvers with those ergos are where beginners are gonna drop them. But if you don’t care about dropping it, which you shouldn’t with ur first bike, not the worst possible choice

[@ragerider6283]

Nice vid. I bought one of these having not ridden for a long while & getting back in to biking this year. I previously had a 125, two 250's, a supersport 600, 750 & two 1000's so I've progressed quite sensibly. However, I'm currently very rusty so this is perfect for where I'm at right now. I also wouldn't recommebd it for a first bike either. It wouldn't be terrible at all but if you want a sporty first bike a Ninja 500, CBR 500 or even an RS457 would be better choices imo.

[@Crazy1793]

As a big guy im getting this as my first bike. It sits so comfortable for me

[@ItzNick317]

Split my oil pan because of a broken torque wrench the first, oil change on my gsxs1000gt😂. It was so much "fun" getting so intimate with it to replace it only 2 months after getting it.

[@ArtisDeadx]

Just bought the silver/red one on saturday, first bike in almost 10 years and it has everything I'd want.

[@ragerider6283]

Snap. I bought the silver & red one about a month ago & it was my first bike in 13 years & it definitely ticked all the boxes.

[@ArtisDeadx]

@@ragerider6283 Hell yeah! I was gonna go with the yellow but the grey rims stuck out too much - why didnt they just make em black?!??

[@ragerider6283]

@@ArtisDeadx Agreed. The mat grey rims aren't great. The wheels should be gloss black imo. In pictures the silver & red was my least favourite option but in the dealer it looked by far the best imo. The black was kind of boring & the blue (yellow which we don't get in the UK) had the grey rims which just didn't do it for me. The pale platinum silver, red rims & red accents on the bodywork really work & it was an easy choice for me in the end. I also added the full Akrapovic system, Suzuki (Gilles) levers, Powerbronze tail tidy, & Evotech radiator guard. Thinking about the taller Suzuki screen too but haven't ridden it enough yet to decide if I really need it. Very happy with it.

[@SWTVENOM]

What are your thoughts now?

[@thomasusowski2155]

After a month of having this bike, I sold it back to the dealership and got the Kawasaki Ninja 2024 ZX10R in all black. I thought I would enjoy the 8R, but I got bored of it. For 20 years I’ve had Honda CBRs and loved them! But wanted to step it up with the 1,000.

[@YacolJ]

I've been saying this on every episode that Yam has a video on this bike. I've ridden for 22 years. I'm also a certified motorcycle mechanic. I've ridden most every style motorcycle and engine layout. This layout and engine engine configuration together is.....eh. I'm sorry. I don't mean any hate. Just wait until you ride something faster. You won't go back.

[@ethanelder1055]

Cool story bro. Everyone clapped. They are not even remotely in the same class of bikes.

[@ChitChat]

2+ years on a Ninja 400 and just got this a few days ago. No it's not a beginner bike. Throttle control takes time. Hugging the tank with your knees as a habit takes time. Learning to lean properly takes time. Learning how to play around the friction zone for low speed maneuvers takes time. Those of you who started on this are asking for the punishment for not learning these things to be greater than they have to be. Take your time and get a 400.

[@master_ranch_of_the_runnin7289]

Dudes starting on 1000cc super sports punching air right now.

[@KingYorch08]

Im not a beginner. But this was my first sports bike and it’s more than enough bike. I love it.

[@Crazy1793]

As a 6 foor 1 guy weighing 240 lbs. I sat on tbis bike a few days ago and it felt every comfortable. This big guy approves this bike as a bigger

[@Chad5ter]

Doesn’t really matter nowadays. Just get the bike you really want as a first bike, but make sure it has Power Modes. So that way you can learn gradually your new bike.

[@SixFigureStearns]

My first bike was a 2021 CBR600RR and honest to god I regret not starting out on a 1000cc. It would’ve saved me time, money, and given me a wider range of power to play with. Just have self control as a beginner, ease into things and get the layout.

[@dbrr558]

Started out on a 300cc a couple months ago and I definitely regret it now, bought in February for a decent deal, already need to upgrade because i cant even highway it without ringing the absolute piss out the machine. Which was hilarious at first but now its like bruh …. All the dealerships have absolutely no inventory and are charging max dollar for everything. Now im completely stuck if i should just go 600cc or as you said 1000 and just dont be an idiot. Bikes don’t scare me anymore its all about the operator and other idiots on the road. Its honestly the same with cars too, if you aren’t stupid you can easily drive a 1000hp car as a beginner. All about your discipline.

[@mehedihasan2261]

2:47 that down-shift I do a lot, i mean a lot when i get crazy

[@SuperSpruce]

I started (and am still on) a Suzuki GZ250, partly because I was a bit nervous about 30-40hp and a 0-60 time of under 6 seconds. I regret that now and wish I had bought something slightly faster, if only to keep up on the highway for long touring rides. I've been looking at upgrading to something faster, and I've found some good deals on old Ninja ex500's. I'll be finally making a decent amount of money this year so hopefully I'll upgrade within a year.

[@ethanmyers338]

i had a ninja 650 for my first, i sold it after 3 weeks and bought this. 4500 miles down and the low end power is my fav part

[@kevindelk]

As a big v twin rider this seems like another bike I'd like in my stable. Looking for a sport bike that has a good triangle that can be ridden all day

[@Trevster65]

I have 8s and put it in c mode and traction control 3 and it’s much easier to live with as first big bike, behave much like a 650. You can then move up to b mode and a mode over time. I have 20+ years and just ride it in b mode tc 2 and it’s fine for everyday riding. I have no desire to get my knee down as I’m a rode ride not a track rider. My first big bike after 125 was gpz500s and loved it, no abs or fuel gauge but good fun.

[@williamelliott1750]

First bike I owned was a 2003 Suzuki Bandit 12S, 98hp , 67Ft/lb of torque, 1157cc, 543lbs wet.I had to pick it up 3 or 4 times and I was 41 years old, 5'9 and about 170lb. It's about technique. I put 36000 miles on the bandit commuting 300 miles a day in LA traffic and splitting lanes, etc. I had been riding friends bikes on and off since 1974. A friend of mine told me the salesman should have been fired because I hadn't ridden in quite some time, LOL. That being said... I agree with Yammie Noob in that the 8R (which I now own) feels like it has as much torque as the Bandit 12s I rode. The 8R has a TON of torque. I would argue that it has at least as much low range torque (listed at 57.5 ft/lb) as the '03 Bandit 12S, in-line 4 1200cc. Not on paper, but in the feel of riding it. Maybe the 100lb weight difference between the bikes, as the Bandit was heavier. BTW, I read somewhere that the 8R was designed around a 5'9 rider at 165lb. Just saying, I could be wrong. The 8r is not a beginner bike for the new rider. Agreed. Get some experience on a smaller bike the then go for the 8R. Well done on this video Yammie Noob!

[@unscripted3209]

This or the Daytona 660 (with 3 years riding experience)? I am tempted by the three cylinder and the turn by turn navigation feature, but the suzuki is apparently more sporty in it's throttle response, which is tempting too. Gonna test ride in June, but I'd like a more experienced person's opinion. Greetings from Germany

[@coleyounger5882]

I bought myself a GSX 8s recently after not riding for 20 years, I am 63 years old. And I can tell you the GSX 8s has the same problem the GSX 8r has with its power range. It is a freaky ride when you're not used to it, all the torque it makes can and does come on like a freight train especially in the lower gears. Either of these bikes could be new ride appropriate if they are responsible and understand what they are getting into. But the fool hardy will likely find themselves eating pavement.

[@johannesfactotum2682]

Such a shame we can't get the yellow here in the UK, looks so much better than other colours.

[@AG87BlkLX]

This is my 1st street bike, I'm 57. After 3 weeks of riding and close to 800 miles riding, city, twisties, interstate, rush hour and playing, I have no regrets. I thought about buying a 400cc for my 1st bike but I'm glad I didn't. As soon as I started trying wheelies I realized I didn't want to loop my new bike and a used bike would've been better for learning wheelies. Basically I have 3 options now, 1) buy another bike to learn wheelies, 2) wheelie this bike, 3) don't do wheelies. 3 isn't an option and right now I only have option 2.

[@32bootzie]

I'am 59 , wise choice for street bike

[@JessicaSimonson1976]

At 57 you should be thinking of arranging your funneral arrangements.

[@SuperSpruce]

You're trying to wheelie after just 3 weeks of riding? No I totally get the feeling, I already wanted more power after 3 weeks of riding my GZ250, so I went down to a Harley dealership and test rode a Sportster.

[@AG87BlkLX]

@@JessicaSimonson1976 I don't have time. I'm practicing my wheelies.

[@bigtexas1]

@@AG87BlkLX More reason to setup your funeral arrangements, and/or up your health insurance, especially at 57. Don't put the strain on your loved ones. Learning wheelies consists of falling, I wish you luck, but protect yourself and be careful.

[@seeul8rwaynekerr]

Yes it is. Its the new sv650s replacement. It's not a screaming peaky 4 banger and neither is it the tl1000r.

[@SS-or7mz]

My clx 700 is 460 lbs with a full tank. For me the weight was mostly in my head after starting out after my msf course on a relatively light bike I could manhandle. Once I start moving whatsoever the weight difference is not even noticeable.

[@tomasmadurago]

what we should take from this vid is that 600 are great beginner bikes, they are very comfortable to commute for hours, they dont have torque and they are extremely smooth

[@puterasyazwan6245]

Yam u said that a beginner bike should be below 650cc and 2 piston, but what are your thought about the cbr650r, for i believe that Honda is categorised the bike for beginner rider, but the only thing is its a inline 4? So what is your thought about it?

[@Kevo.x85]

I started out on a R7 and I will definitely agree with Yammie that the MT-07 is probably the best beginner plus bike. If you’re coming from cars like I did, you will definitely get bored of the ninja 400 or similar very quick. The MT-07 will be a lot more fun for a lot longer, while being a lot more comfortable than a R7. I loved the look of the R7, but the riding position was pretty terrible. I couldn’t ride it for more than an hour. A naked bike would be way more comfortable and versatile especially for longer rides

[@glenlipkens6647]

Looking for advice. Recently started getting my drivers license, theyre teaching me with a MT07, is a cbr650r a good beginners bike after im done?

[@Isaidthis]

I'm 5'10" 230 blue collar, would a 06-09' Katana be considered a good starter bike?

[@ryanmichael7795]

It was only a matter of time before yammie made a "bad beginner bike video" after riding the gsx-8r. Remember no rider apart from yam and his lovely new hair piece can ride a motorcycle above 60bhp

[@brandonsovey1797]

ah here's me getting a 2024 ZX6R for my first bike next month. 😄

[@thejustiniam]

Than there’s me… starts out on a cbr500r and 4 months later upgraded to the rs660… definitely wish I started on the aprilia

[@Mr_Phoskitos]

Flashed ZX-4R with full exhaust and on slick tyres, best beginner bike, change my mind 👀

[@user-xs3wx4sb4q]

Im crying just bought a CB650R and yammie says is not a good begginer bike!

[@skilful1]

Just practice, practice, practice 😊

[@itzikca]

You bought a beautiful bike, love it, have fun

[@user-xs3wx4sb4q]

@@skilful1 I Will try to be mature on it

[@user-xs3wx4sb4q]

@@itzikca Tnks, appreciate you

[@jackstephens2519]

Honestly I think the 650R is a fantastic bike. Yes the twin cylinder bikes will probably pull off from it if they’re both at 3k rpm in a high gear, but see what happens when they’re both at 10k and roll on them lol

[@predictableskater]

As a beginner rider who owns a 23 rebel 500, 75 Cb750 and a 76 Iornhead the rebel is my overall choice for riding most of the time, but if its a bike show then I'm taking the cb750.

[@alphajed7700]

No, but the good news is, Suzuki is already making a small capacity(probably, around 350-500cc) engine with VVT. Only time when they release the actual bike.

[@mikegm6326]

I wonder which riding modes yammie rode it. I got the 8S as my first bike and rode it in C mode until 2000 miles. Main reason I went with this over the mt07 or z650 was the riding modes, traction control(besides QS, screen). With riding modes you control more the delivery/output of the power. Not sure why yammie says the mt07 over this one. Mt07 doesn't has riding modes or traction control. Yes, a 300 o 400 could be better and easier. But vs similars I'm not sure.

[@jonathannorris-green2379]

You got some balls riding a motorcycle in ATX. People cant even walk around without getting hit by a car in this city. Living in Austin is the biggest thing holding me back from getting a bike.

[@josephlau8476]

That is a very cool bike.

[@OneinTheChamber06]

I got a 2006 cb600f as my second bike. Definitely a lot different from my Duke 200 lol

[@DasSigma660]

I want to get into riding. been looking at a tuono v4 as my first bike. I heared that they are pretty slow and manageable. what do you think?

[@midwesttacticalair7742]

Looking at a 2009 Kawasaki er6n for my first big bike,self taught Ryder,and learned on a kp mini 150cc

[@davidbrown364]

I’m interested but have an 18 sv650. How does the power compare? The hp numbers sound similar. I’d want to 8r if it’s more powerful than the sv

[@Sortna]

That jerky torque shit is definetly what got me riding smooth tho. Im three weeks in on my first bike and i have over 3000 miles on this thing. No regrets at all. I started on C mode with the 3rd traction control mode on and worked my way up to A mode with traction mode 2. i think this bike is a great beginner bike but yeah you gotta try and not be a dumbass on this thing.

[@eco999]

People debate here whether GSX-8R or MT-09 is good for a beginner bike meanwhile I placed the order for a KTM 125 Duke :D to start my motorcycle journey.

[@TheunknownAngel]

Yammie, while I agree with your points about weight and size of the actual bike, you seem to forget the features of this bike that make it a great beginner bike and the reason I've put 1000 miles on mine in the first month. Drive modes, this being my first bike I rode my first 600miles in comfort mode which significantly smooths out that power band so you do t get thrown around!!

[@johnwayne3514]

I just find it funny that he posted a video clowing on this bike, now he has one

[@xiron_JP]

If i get another, more friendly bike, as first, how much time i need for Suzuki GSX 8R as a second bike?

[@R-Tap]

Suzuki are starting to interest me, their GSX-S 1000 GT+ is also an interesting tourer. This looks the part also, great colour.

[@The_DEVIL_Carly]

my CBR500R wants a word

[@mk5_3]

Permission not granted

[@nonamesixx]

bro voluntary chose a cbr500 lol

[@someguy9520]

Since season start i seem to see a ton of them. No idea why would anyone buy them at the price point, power and high weight Or i mistook them for cbr650r when i wasn't looking right

[@The_DEVIL_Carly]

@@someguy9520I got a 2014 and the used market for beginner bikes in Utah has been slim ish. Weighs about 420lbs w/ 47bhp. Comfortable, seat height is perfect for me and the clutch has been very forgiving as I’m learning. My very first bike and I’m in love with it

[@someguy9520]

@The_DEVIL_Carly if you like it, good on you man I personally prefered the Rebel 500 as a total beginner when taking my courses. The CB500X would have been my first bike for general riding if I hadn't bought a NT650V Deauville

[@shaerankin4367]

I sold my 2020 sv650, and now I'm kicking myself in the butt for it. Do you think the gsx 8r would be a good upgrade, or should I skip it and go straight to the ftr 1200 😅

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

No one sells SV650's. No one.

[@shaerankin4367]

@davidbrayshaw3529 I know, I know the more I look, the more I realize I had it right the first time, lol

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

@@shaerankin4367 The motorcyclist's conundrum. "I really love this bike, it's perfect, but I really want something else". We are all the same. It is our curse.

[@user-ql6zp7yz7r]

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[@J.O..]

I accidentally looked at one while trying to find a bike me and the wife would fit comfortably on, im 6'2 shes 5'9. Loved everything about this bike (while sitting on it in the bike shop) until i got a quote from my insurance agency for 4k

[@imshanejung]

BABE WAKE UP PAPA YAM POSTED A VIDEO FOR YOU

[@erpu5645]

I bought recently my first bike modified BMW K1100RS aka flying brick I do not have ridden it yet because I will get licence first. On driving school I will probably have SV650 they are most common school bikes here. I did bought K1100 mainly because of original dyno graphs it haves very linear torque graph. But be aware do not do like I did. I am overly cautious on every vehicle that I do not know quirks and response to inputs througly. Closed track is safe place to learn and I recomend go to track day or so on every vehicle category you drive at least once and increase speed gradually.

[@erpu5645]

It does have 100hp(74kw) and 107Nm(78 ft lbf) and that is definetely too much I f you do not have self control.

[@CkWilD]

Got a 650 for my first bike with abs bit on the heavy size 454 pounds 60hp great bike for the price no complaints just wish it was lighter

[@takemyshotgun]

But what if you ride it in C (aka "rain") mode?

[@Arthur_Tuck]

I keep going down in engine sizes.. I've been on 600s, 400s, 650s and I still prefer the Grom lmao

[@user-pg2bj7rv1t]

I have not ridden the 8 yet; But I agree it is NOT a beginner's bike. I have been lMotorcycle Licensed Since age 18-I turn 70 this July and I still ride.True Story-I took my Oregon Motorcycle Endorsement Test at age 18 on a Honda 750. I presently own a 2018 GSX250R; but am planning to upgrade to a 650 sooner than later. From what little I DO know about the 8S and 8R tells me a beginner should NOT throw a Leg over it. It is fairly light in weight for its size, and the torquey Big Twin could EAsILY get away from an inexperienced ride. I WANT ONE, LOL!

[@SmkinBarrel]

My first bike is 4 cylinders and 750cc over $4,000 😂. Bought my GSX-S750Z brand new. Surprisingly not a bad first bike if you are a tall strong person. Just need good wrist control/discipline/maturity. With Traction Control on 3 it is somewhat forgiving. It’s good on low speed maneuvers too. Should I have went by Yammies rule of thumb? Maybe. But I wanted something I would enjoy for many seasons to come. I did not like the idea of dealing with the used market for buying or selling. Just my personal preference. I don’t have any regrets. I plan on doing further advanced rider courses with it after installing some race rails.

[@jxstified7558]

Its a great bike for beginners because 300-400cc bikes are lame af and you get bored in a week with them and this bike is a bit of a step up from those while also not being a super sport also it is harder to stall with the auto revving in first gear and the upright position so you feel more comfortable with turning and for $9500 (powersports dealer near me its $8500) nothing beats it.

[@ARodTC]

bought one about 2 weeks ago as first bike and everything you say definitely has merit i feel like its taking me a min to get the hang of it i have it in C mode but still. does everyone here recommend setting traction control to the 3 setting as well?

[@ARodTC]

wish i would have watched this video before i bought it lol

[@freshkidjo]

Interesting life experience I've had more falls on my CBR 250 and more incidents on touring style 600s. after I've gotten my more aggressive Style 636 I've been good ever since. The point I'm trying to make is the writer and the bikes riding style have to match each other

[@patrickagan1071]

Its just a smidge spicy i think under 70 hp is safer for a newb

[@Bikencarguy]

Ive always thought a 600cc i4 is a better beginner bike than a 650,700, or 800cc twin because 600s arent punchy at slow speed. An r7 at 5k rpm is faster than an r6 at 5k rpm

[@thesoutherndistance]

When I was your age, men learned how to ride on Gixxers. :)

[@Supercharged1976]

LOL! Same power as a 1990 FZR 600....if it gets much slower it's a Ninja 250

[@mikemikemike9139]

When you're talking about beginner rider, do you mean new to riding or just new to sport bikes?

[@robnobbycrawford4378]

Love the colour of this, why dont we get this in the UK

[@shisnatz2]

I'm 6'9" 310 pounds. I want a ninja 650 for my first bike but i also like this one. Can i get any help from the community on suggestions please!

[@dubzc5895]

Is it 'more' than a CBR650R?! Or is the Honda a step up? Considering both.

[@walterskinner2147]

650R are fast, and have strong top end. Probably more forgiving throttle response and more progressive torque output. The GSX8R has very very abrupt torque and throttle response from minimal RPM. TLDR 650 is probably easier and safer to ride while making mistakes.

[@riomatrix6156]

Pretty sure the cbr650r has more hp but the 8r gots more torque. So it boils down to whether or not you wanna go faster eventually or faster right now, lol

[@YokaiSamurai]

Busa C mode for beginner video please and ty 🥺

[@exothermal.sprocket]

SV650 is too powerful for learners, as a whole. Ninja 650 is more tame, down 10 horsepower on the SV. It's more manageable. In general I'd recommend a 400 to start, maybe the newer 450 twins even.

[@LAskeHosting]

Or just ask for A2 restriction to be on it, that's 47hp and there you go, perfect beginner bike :)

[@dylan_lewis9309]

I started on the Ducati V4 Streetfighter with a stage two tune and full system. Then I picked up a CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP. Just buy whatever you want and don't be stupid with it.

[@icemuppet361]

you are a maniac, and im here for it

[@dylan_lewis9309]

@@icemuppet361 LOL, I'll be 40 this year and the world we grew up in is rapidly coming to an end. I don't have time to muck around with a 600cc starter bike, unless its just something to wring the tits off of at the race track!

[@multi21racing]

Maybe I am not really the target for these videos because I made my motorcycle licence with 33 years after racing cars for roughly 10 years, but personally I think that Yammies takes on what beginners should ride are a bit overly conservative. I started on a CB650F but after 1 year I already switched to a BMW F900R (which maybe doesn't exist in the US but is your standard 900cc inline twin) because the lack of torque was really a bit annoying in daily commuting. There is literally nothing about that 900c that's uncontrollable compared to the 650 four-pot. Traction control light came up two or three times in the wet, one time when accelerating on slight lean, but the actual cuts on the power were so tiny they weren't even really noticeable. Maybe these rules were true in the past, but with modern suspension and electronics, any person that is sane can easily get a current 900c Twin as a first bike. And people that are insane will probably also die on a Ninja 400.

[@Mr_Glenn]

I have a GSR 750 as my starter bike. I think this will do just fine.

[@skeletalfuture6061]

i just bought a GSX-R750 for my first bike, a lot of people have told me not to but here i am. First ride will be this coming monday.

[@eco999]

@@skeletalfuture6061 the fact that you did doesn't mean it's a good beginners bike 🤷‍♂

[@LaurentLaborde]

the 8S is my first bike and i have 0 issue with it, i think it's the best beginner bike on the market at the moment. i didn't test the 8R though

[@douglasgrosch228]

hit a concours 14 at 3k rpms tuned ecu pipe all goog 1400cc

[@tedunguent156]

The problem is that over the last couple of decades the "definition" of beginner bike has been inflated and greatly exaggerated for the sake of increasing sales of new motorcycles. A beginner bike should be nimble, light weight, low-ish seat height, affordable and of moderate power at best. Nothing over 500 cc's falls into that category.

[@Curry1162]

Bro thinks everyones trying to go balls to the wall when they start out 😂. As long as you’re cautious, not trying to weave through traffic, and in decent shape, get whatever bike you want as your first. Better to buy a bike you keep for a long time than buy a bike that you’re gonna sell in like 6 months. And if you really can’t trust yourself to not go balls to the wall, don’t limit yourself with getting a less powerful, just don’t get a motorcycle at all 😘.

[@markybear23]

It's my first bike (8s), I don't have the luxury to buy a beginner bike and buy a bigger more expensive bike later on. This is my beginning, present, and future ride - at least that's the mindset as of typing this comment.

[@otiscraig9132]

I started on a 2021 GSXR 1000 a year and 6k miles ago. Glad I did but I will agree it’s not for everyone.