Is the USP series outdated?

[@RobZtaco]

"If there was some way to blend a racecar and a tank, that is the USP" best way to describe it!

[@veedee4860]

Rob Ryan the 911 of guns. There’s a version for everyone.

[@syitiger9072]

I was looking for 1 today usp 45 would be awesome

[@Smokeshow767]

The USP is a timeless classic. Beautiful lines, built like a tank and built to run all day.

[@Trenex1000]

I wouldn't call it timeless, there are aspects of it that are a bit outdated. A classic but not timeless. That's when the HK P30 and Hk 45 come in.

[@shaunnh2a585]

It's, in my opinion, a HK gateway drug lol

[@navyman8903]

Oh it absolutely is.

[@TheSonicVoid]

Definitely not a dated design. In fact, I just picked up a USP Compact 9mm, even though HK has more modern options available. It's tried and true, ultra-reliable and just plain looks cool.

[@GLOCKCOPG23]

USP is still top tier. Plenty new designs can’t come close in durability. The USP was ahead of it’s time. Buy one and you will be in the CLUB OF NO RETURN.

[@tonysoprano7777]

The USP is one of the best fire arms (next to the Mark23) HK ever built. It is a TANK and eats anything you feed it. As much as I love the HK45, P30, VP9, in my opinion there are not built as the USP. New is not always better. Great Vid once again agree 100%

[@beckhamhome]

The rail is outdated and needs to be standardized to the rest. I'd prefer a steel or titanium rail molded into the frame. The real question is, is the shooter ready for the H&K USP. It's accuracy might be wasted on a few. It's over engineered design and space age finish is wasted on range only shooters. I have a Mark 23 that I only shoot +p and 45 super through, it only modification is a recoil spring with a few extra pounds on it. It always works, it never rusted, it never broke. It's the gun I would use first and last. It's design is a classic. It's trigger pull is superb. It's recoil management is second to none. I believe anyone saying that the H&K USP is outdated never shot one, or requires 100% perfection.

[@Kevin-fj5oe]

over engineered ? hell i play this game where it disassemble and assembly gun until its barebone ( World of Gun : Gun Disassemble, very recommended they even has M2 HMG and that thing is pain in the ass) this pistol is one the easy one, easier than sig p228, hell its easier than 1911

[@Trenex1000]

That is why I would rather take an HK P30 and/or an HK 45 instead.

[@areaperii998]

Haha dumb

[@ajacks8007]

BEST COMBAT HANDGUN.....PERIOD

[@meatymartin2186]

Yup

[@champy1210]

P30 V4 LEM w/ GG SRS gives it a run for its money. Easily the two greatest handguns. (The P7M13 is tied w/ them, but it’s über-rare and requires much more maintenance.)

[@jonathanfrost944]

The usp is my favorite gun. If I'd of found it first I'd probably only own Hk pistols. I need a two tone like that! Great vid. Merry Christmas

[@yesihavebedbugs2786]

3 years later. The answer is still no.

[@nubbnubbs2911]

6 years later. The answer is still no.

[@bayard0157]

It's an awesome pistol, but we need a "USP 2.0." IMO.

[@GarretGoodbarrel]

HK would probably just point to the P30 and say there it is xD

[@bayonet262]

that would be the hk45

[@Trenex1000]

The HK P30 and HK 45 is your "USP 2.0".

[@Trenex1000]

@ItalianBrownsFAN Yes, it is it. How am I wrong? Or you're probably attempting to troll me...

[@areaperii998]

@@Trenex1000 you dumb bro

[@vdub5818]

dat hk45c mag release tho...... USP's are fantastic. They are a bit blocky when compared to the likes of the p30 or hk45 but that by no means makes them terrible. If blocky was a terrible thing no one would own Glocks.

[@ITHINKUREALESUK]

I just started my H&K experience a little over a year ago, thanks mostly to your influence. Always enjoy your reviews and commentary . MERRY CHRISTMAS DD. AND THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE !!!!

[@230HardBall]

Finest combat sidearm ever created. Epitome of " No Compromise " ps. My EDC is a full size Usp 9mm V1

[@bigB6flyer]

The USPc's & USPs are among my favorite pistols. Absolute bomb-proof tanks that just run.

[@navyman8903]

I've never once had a performance issue with a USP or USPc. They run, and run well. Capable of making some nice groups too.

[@JuanSouth2010]

I purchased my HK USP 40 FS in 2001 and it would be cool having a Surefire light sit flush with the barrel. Or have Magpul offer a magazine. 15 years of shooting different brand ammo with zero failures is way more important than accessories. My next purchase will be another 40 and 45 USP. Great videos DevilDolphin! I'm looking forward to the next one

[@alabaster4263]

I'm in California so all my guns are outdated

[@nerychristian]

I feel your pain. Los Angeles here.

[@moistexistence3090]

Feel your pain man. We get what we can as gun owners.

[@Cordova10-8]

I'd rather H&k make a new light for the USP opposed to updating it with a 1913 rail. I'm happy it's gone unchanged. My only concern is the durability of the GG&G adapters. I've heard there have been some issues with them failing while using heavier lights like the X300, which is unfortunate since I'm a big fan of that weapon light.

[@MikeO303]

I've had The USP .40 compact for 21 years now and still my favorite pistol

[@HKSyndicate]

Love my USP's Hands down my favorite pistols! I don't think they are outdated, just wish they would do something where they keep the base platform and just update it as the years go on kinda like Glock Gen1 Gen 2 and so on!

[@robosdrumworld]

(HK) John C. I totally agree

[@kaiul2967]

Timeless classic! Still my favorite pistol I choose to shoot 98% of the time hitting the range. Only thing I wish they upgraded was the picatinny rail to possibly allow more light bearing holster options available. But then again keeping it true to it's original design is a +2! 👍👍

[@johndeere1951a]

Thank you. Your spot on being annoyed with Silly people talking about obsolescence, and arguing points about pistol features when they never owned the model being discussed. Basement dwelling adolescents. Sorry they spoil the beauty of H&K designs, quality, heritage, beautiful craftsmanship. Its best to not give any air time to such nonsense. Ignore the poseurs. Great topic and presentation 👍 👍CD, 72, New Hampshire. Go ! Army !

[@TheOl1911]

Local city PD used the USP 45s since '00-07. 7 years with positive praise. And I know cops that still use one today. I remember there was a guy on here that is a ME Trooper that carried the USP for years then switched to the HK45 and he still preferred the USP. There is no denying the USP is a proven pistol. Now I miss mine, LOL ahhhhhh

[@Melo_EL]

I just picked up my USP45! Your opinions in your reviews were invaluable in making my decision. Love your content! Your honesty and no BS assessment of things is refreshing and sure appreciate your professional insight. I work for DEERS and have a lot of admiration for our service men and women. Stay safe on your deployment and can't wait for you to come home and make more great vids! Thanks for your service!

[@PrintWizard89]

I've never owned an HK product but I would probably buy a USP if/when I ever do. I feel like it's one of those classic designs and aesthetically it's very appealing. Also, it'll still kill shit good, like you said lol. Good video. I enjoy your work sir.

[@clplusp8762]

The USP is pure engineering genius. The ergos are unrivaled and the construction epitomizes what every polymer gun should be. Now i just need to get one...a .40 compact!

[@elliottbutts153]

This same topic was asked today on the forum. I can't believe anyone who is a member of HKpro would even ask this question lol. What did they expect to hear

[@navyman8903]

It's funny because I shot this in November, and kept it in the can. I just uploaded it to upload it, then I saw the thread. Hilarious.

[@elliottbutts153]

perfect timing man

[@0mcparty145]

I recently bought a 1996 USP 9C and love it. I totally want a full sized 45 like your "wife" to have for a "bad day" or just a range day. Keep up the great videos!

[@shaunnh2a585]

The gun range I work at has the USP .45 for rent and it's one of the top most requested firearms to rent

[@johngalt234]

The gun still fires a contemporary round with a comparable rate of fire. Therefore, it isn't outdated. Most people use "outdated" to knock features and aesthetics that don't fit with the latest fad. That is an incorrect usage. Outdated needs to refer to how well a weapon works with the tactics being used by the belligerents. An army equipped with Mosin-Nagants isn't outdated against an army using swords.

[@RighteousLiberty]

I think the main reason people say this is because it has a larger, blockier look and grip compared to the slick looking, more ergonomic friendly P30, HK45 and VP series. While the USP .45's round magazine capacity isn't the greatest at 12 rounds, but that's still 2 more rounds than the newer HK45 holds as well a the Sig P227 with standard mags, and only 1 round less than a Glock 21. So I certainly don't think it's magazine capacity makes it outdated. The only guns in .45 that seem to have a significantly higher mag capacity in .45 are the FNX-45 and maybe 1 or 2 other lesser known guns as far as I'm aware. I really want a HK45, but I'd like a USP .45 as well. I shot a USP .45 once and shot it much better than I thought I would given the USP grip and my (somewhat small) hands. Now I may still do better with an HK45 or Sig P227, but I still shot the USP fairly well, certainly good enough to be proficient with it.

[@rickhunter6513]

Is the USP outdated? Not even close. 10 years from now, still will be a top, go to, pistol. It’s reliable, it’s accurate and it’s durable. No it doesn’t have optic ready cuts but honestly, irons sights will do just fine. Long live the USP

[@SeriousMFBlack]

The jet funnel is the greatest magwell ever created

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Whew! Picked up my first H&K, a USP45 grey frame last month, I'd be awfully disappointed if it went obsolete on me. ;)

[@austinhowell6920]

Is the HK45 not safe to fire an extremely low round count of 45 Super out of? I can’t seem to get a straight forward answer about the matter Also, what rail adaptor would you recommend for making an X300U to a USP?

[@navyman8903]

On my USP45 I use the GG&G rail. I haven't run 45 super through the HK45. I think she'll take it but not a steady diet. You'll have to replace the recoil spring at about 500 rounds I think if you're running it.

[@big_goat]

2022 and the answer is still yes. I love when i need a part i can speak to a actual representative.

[@robertmiller5029]

Very nice video - I have enjoyed the H&K USP series of pistols ever since their introduction, and agree with the points you make. Although there are many other fine semi-autos that may have more modern features (like the standard accessory rail), the USP continues to be a top contender in my book. They are tough and rugged, accurate, and just plain fun to shoot. Thank you, and Merry Christmas!

[@navyman8903]

Completely agree, and Merry Christmas to you as well.

[@FrankMaster73]

The only thing outdated is the rail. Outdated typically applies to something that’s inefficient by modern standards. For example 1911s are a lot more maintenance than more modern polymer framed guns. The USP vs P30/HK45 is a personal preference in how they shoot and ergos.

[@navyman8903]

Completely agree.

[@FrankMaster73]

@@navyman8903 not that 1911s are pointless. They are an ergonomic masterpiece. But they absolutely have drawbacks.

[@navyman8903]

@FrankMaster73 completely agree there. I've shot my best groups ever with a 1911. But I ran out of ammo, an HK45 or USP 45 makes more sense for that application. I will probably get a DW Specialist in black at some point. Because it's all forged and not WC or Night Hawk money.

[@Thunderkat65]

I used to have a HK USP Elite in .45acp, it shot incredibly accurate and everybody that fired it thought it was chambered in 9mm due to the light recoil. I sold it because it just didn't fit my hand well but such an amazing pistol.

[@DAPH3NOM]

love the videos bro great work...I have a question tho. I have a full size usp 9mm. I was thinking about doing the jet funnel upgrade but I'm going to have to buy all new mags which can get expensive. my question is do you feel its worth doing the upgrade considering the cost?

[@MrNiceKnife]

Bedside gun. USP 9, thousands of rounds with zero malfunctions. Legendary. Wish I would’ve got more when I had the chance.

[@robosdrumworld]

I have Three USP’s USP9 LEM USP40 Compact and a USP40 Full size. Best handguns in the business. Built like tanks.

[@abefroman4953]

I own multiple H&K's. The VP9 is my EDC. The USP 45 is on my battle belt.

[@SeventhCereal]

I think any gun less than 20 years old is one not worth buying. It takes time to work out the kinks, and best if they are found through rigorous use by a military. A gun is not a car, if your car breaks down, sit on the side of the road and wait for help. If a gun breaks when you need it that could be fatal.

[@A-rl4or]

2024 and the USP is still the best semi auto ever made

[@zebwalton979]

Nope. It’s THE SHTF weapon. The 1911 is however, hence the 2011. The ONLY thing I don’t like is the grip. The capacity isn’t an issue... 17,18,20 rounds adds weight and really isn’t necessary. 12 - 15 rounds is more than enough and maintains that sweet spot and n weight

[@asullivan50i]

Ok, a little late to the show (2016 vid), what type of rail adapter you got there?

[@navyman8903]

That is a GGG 1913 rail.

[@moustachio334]

Why don’t those same people ask if the Sig P226, Beretta 92, or 1911 outdated? Lol

[@RobbDzzz]

I love my "race-tanks!!!"

[@navyman8903]

They're outstanding.

[@areaperii998]

Lol in a world where 10 round 45s are prevalent. YES. I go H&k usp because it’s more durable than the fnx. End of story

[@navyman8903]

I agree with all of that!

[@Dc5Juni0r]

My normal FFL dealer tried to talk me out of getting one saying “why do you want such an outdated gun?” I ended going to another shop that ordered me a USP 9. Now I own 3 USPs, one of each caliber hahaha...

[@todd2048]

No it is not obsolete it is still very relevant with the low rail GG&G mount its made the USP more relevant now then ever if HK would upgrade the frame for standard rail system the sales would surpass the HK VP9 and HK45.

[@keithwilliams5151]

a gun that lasts forever is never outdated. just new accessories and new ways of doing things. i upgraded from the p2000sk to the p30sk and i miss my 2000sk. lol so i just may need them both but ill prob get the p2000fs so i can have both. never had the usp but i know it well. other than the mark23 there really is very little difference. same guns with very little style differences. my favorite is now the p2000 for its size and style. no different than the usp really tho. just the rail and fit of hand grip. i say hold them all in your hand with your eyes closed until you find your fit and feel. hk hammer fire for life!!! no compromise!!!!

[@redasissani7363]

You've got all my respect man P.S: USP Tactical is my favorite pistol my go to war sidearm !

[@JohnDoe-gj4dv]

This is a Flawless Oration of this Platform........ The USP is an Heirloom FIREARM that Equals the M1911A1 in Function and Longevity...... Thank you for your VIDEOS.

[@KingdomKillaz117]

Just a lil chunky, but still great

[@izsafe1]

I have a USP 9 that's over 20 years old, with about 10,000 plus rounds through it...and it never fails.

[@boofingdragon]

The USP is just fine. Outdated is a 1911 or anything else that is full sized but still gives you less than 10 rounds.

[@alexdavalos3083]

I have had a few guns over the years, my USP .40 is the only one I have never sold or traded.

[@jacobmanalang8162]

THIS IS AN OBSOLETE GRIP BLEH BLUH BLIH BLIP hahahahahahahaha! the usp is not only still relevant, but classic and id say iconic. i like the p30 and hk45 series but i think im getting old and shitty and i like the guns from when i first started buying guns. i like short external extractor, non railed, german framed sigs. i like usp's. i like 1911's. i like cz75's. i like 9mm but i love .45. i own a dreaded .40 barrel and .357sig barrel for my 226 and a 9mm conversion barrel. i like beretta's especially now that theyre selling g conversion parts. ill grab a p30, p30sk, another vp9 (already sold mine, should have kept it), 45c, and 45 tactical as funds become available. not gonna lie though, if a uspc 9mm comes up when i have the money that would be priority one. oh yeah, i even prefer the older gen 3 glocks with the old finish and i prefer the 17 to the 19 but i carry a gen 4 19 all the time and it works. my cousin still likes mac 11's and tec9's....HES TRIPPIN. THOSE guns are obsolete lol. but theyre cool to him so more power to him. nutnfancy's son tactical doodle carries a walther ppk because its cool to him. i aint even mad at that

[@lukevallin962]

The USP is a gun you can go to war with. I have a full size and a compact and I can’t think of any gun better made than the USP

[@mjzangenberg]

They make the frame in FDE ?????? or is it coated or painted??

[@navyman8903]

It's a poured frame, not coated or painted. They did OD Green, and Urban Gray also.

[@mjzangenberg]

@@navyman8903 Aw okay here in denmark they only have black xD

[@fjrgonzalez]

What about the question in terms of a new buyer for HK. I am looking at the USP Compact vs. the P30. I would be getting in 9mm for concealed carry. Already have Glocks and Sigs so looking to adding an HK to the rotation. Seems like it is pretty hard to find good iwb p30 holsters?

[@Jordan-bq5yq]

Why the Streamlight instread of surefires for you? I got one of the 1st TLR2G lights that came out and its incredible almost 4 yrs later.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

I really like your videos. Subscribed.

[@robbabcock_]

OH NOES! You waved around your Jet Funnel USP while it was cocked- WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!! Haha, jk! Good video. To my mind the USP isn't 'obsolete' it's classic. There are some things that could be updated or improved by HK. One is the rail; yeah, if it was 1913 that would be great. And I suppose having a backstrap you could swap would be a bonus. However I'm one of the lucky ones I guess, I find it fits me perfectly. Aside from the cost of tooling there's maybe another reason HK doesn't update the gun- they don't want to cannibalize sales of their newer models. As much as I love my P30S, P2000, VP9, P30L, etc I may well have just bought three or four USPs if they had added new features. Okay, we've established that some people just love to bitch. But there is one potential complaint that's legit- the mags. I've never had any issues while actually using or carrying a USP but I have had instances where dropping one causes a round to "flip" or invert in the mag. This is uncommon but I have never had it happen with the steel mag of the USP45 Tactical, nor the P2000/P30 mag. This is corrected in the newer plastic-over-steel Jet Funnel mags. Still, the plastic mag is the closest thing to a weakness I can honestly attribute to the USP. I too believe that the USP will endure as long as HK does. Let's hope that's a long while!

[@jbmemphis2151]

To me the standard for polymer handguns was set by the USP and the glock. And im not a glock fan and i dont own any glocks. I do however own a usp combat competition 9mm with the jetfunnel setup.. ive owned most all polymer frame "cool" guns and own none of them now.. i can shoot whatever i want in any kind of rush with my usp.. coolest by far handgun i have ever owned. Period

[@ivanrivera3293]

"DevilDolphin" "6.66k subscribers" Coincidence?

[@northernninety7]

Nice gun. Thing is, how do you reach the light?

[@fedjamocibob2901]

Longer answer is: USP line will never be outdated!!!

[@theexpatgunner]

Great video, I just picked up a like nee USP 9 v1 and it’s a beauty 👍

[@grumpychunk1]

I don’t own a USP I probably will never own a USP… But I know they’re of quality and they will not be outdated for a long time

[@junowilson4992]

The USP never goes out of style

[@Ghostrider-71]

I wish HK would make a 10mm version of the USP.

[@shreddinjoe]

Outdated? Not by a long shot..(no pun intended). I happen to own the USP 9MM V1. Of the few pistols I own..including my Sig 226, my Metro American Classic 1911....even my classic S&W 357 Magnum with the 12" barrel..nickle plated fuckin monster...my USP IS INDEED my go to pistol....it's a beautifullly built and probably the most reliable and most accurate pistol on the planet...all HKs fall in that category...those who may think the HK USP is outdated....apparently just don't own one....pretty simple..but I must say the Sig 226 is certainly tops on my list as well....my 357 Is in a different category and different conversation 😀. Of course this is just my humble opinion..

[@BennyTriad]

USP is still THE Best HK offers imho

[@jessitaylor4170]

I'm curious on your opinion on the Army choosing the Sig Sauer P320 as its new sidearm?

[@keatonjorgensen8793]

Kind of sad you mentioned the 9mm and 45.. I'm a weirdo .40 guy and the usp 40 is my favorite semi auto pistol made

[@-Cold-World]

The full size USP45 is the finest handgun of all time.

[@thedudeabides7864]

What brand/make is that rail adapter? Where did you get it? Every adapter I've seen adds too much bulk. That one looks perfect, as I run all TLR-1 HL lights.

[@navyman8903]

www.gggaz.com/hk-usp-picatinny-rail-flashlight-mounts.html

[@tobiasfunke3357]

Greatest pistol ever made.

[@prayprepare3844]

Right on brother!!!! Great video!!!!

[@siemen7n614]

Any holster recommendations for a usp 9 with a tlr1 on it?

[@squib3083]

agree the USP is old but not outdated. it's one of the finest handguns ever designed, possibly the finest.

[@navyman8903]

Agreed.

[@TinkerTailorSoldier1]

I think besides the new(er) pistols from Ruger, S&W, Walther, Kel Tec, FNX, Kahr... The USP is right there... being middle aged. All the other popular models Glock, Sig P2xx, PPK, 1911's, CZ 75 are old(er)

[@ajfam871]

HE'LL NO. I got my first USP9 (da/sa) about a year ago and quickly then got another one in lite LEM and live that thing my favorite pistol. I even sold a P30L to get another one and a VP9. I also have a Zev Glocl and I prefer my USP to that. And even after all these years and new technology the USP series is still considered Uber fucking reliable and accurate. And this is personal but they are aesthetically gorgeous. You can customize to your own favorite trigger configuration. And people who say they are not ergonomic BS, I'm a small dude and I can shoot this great along with Glocks. And nothing against Glocks they are good for what they are, but the USP series is equal at the least if not better than any other modern pistol ever. Oh and if you don't like them good, that why I keep finding at amazing deals in these used with a lonely at hazing few hundred rounds through them.

[@markjury6633]

Excellent review.

[@rybone3539]

I LOVE MY USP's.

[@MrSmith-zy2bp]

Is there any truth to USP 45 magazine springs are weak? That is, it will wear them out storing them to full 12 rd capacity.

[@Dirtywhtboy87930]

Mr. Smith no issues with that.

[@Poipubeachboy6584]

What is the year of that USP? I have one just like it... AE or 2004

[@aTacoNinja]

USP is badass and I would love to have one, but can’t see why I would buy one over a P30 or P30L unless it was just to say I have a usp

[@Dirtywhtboy87930]

Wampa It’s all a matter of preference. I’ve tried a lot of different ones over the years. I checked out the.45, VP 9, P30L, and the USP. I ended up with the USP 9 lem addition. Love the jet funnel, 18 rounds, and very short trigger reset. A lot of my decision was the trigger pull that did it for me, nice n short and light! I found a H+K rail adapter, and put a Olight Baldr Pro on it and it’s perfect!

[@madeleineollerton5993]

i think a lot of this sentiment is post FNX-45, where the magazine capacity is so different in a similar form factor, but the thing that the USP does that FN doesn't is it's .45super ready out of the box, it's reliable in every environment, and it has more trackrecord than any handgun developed since WWII. I think the 1911 IS obsolete and i think the USP obsoleted it.

[@mdsmith1019]

And it's a freaking HK! That's the part that ends the conversation for me. Can I get a DIFFERENT gun that does some or all things better? Most likely. Can I get a different gun that LOOKS better and is cooler? Doubtful...

[@Dirtywhtboy87930]

Madeleine Ollerton FN’s firing pins are brittle and can fail at 2k rounds. Hate to have that happen in a combat situation! Pull the trigger and NOTHING! Your now screwed!

[@Ironcoremagma]

Just needs to be ambidextrous and a modern picatinny rail, and it'll be fine.

[@fearnonebutone4977]

If you had to choose between a USP LEM in 9mm, or the VP9 which would you choose and why? Thanks

[@martina6212]

USP no contest

[@DiamondLifer]

The proprietary rail system should have been updating a long time ago.

[@timothyparkinson9985]

I still use a revolver, so I would say this is not obsolete.

[@kylemartin594]

People carried the colt SAA 1873 (Hollywood and dumbasses call it a peace maker) well into to mid 20th century for better or worse. The 1911 is still in holsters of fellow sheriff deputies when I go to work today. If you make a good product, it dies hard. The USP may not be the newest, but it will remain relevant for a long time.

[@ChrisChuUsa]

Man I want a few like that!❤️

[@Mrkillerkane]

Anser, "Hell NO"

[@jamescampbell4334]

Hahahaha, outdated? I just purchased a 2020 production HK Mark 23, all the 45 Super in stock at Buffalo Bore, AND all the 45acp +P+ from Double Tap.

[@jeffburstyn202]

Where's part 1?????