Is There A Future For The Airbus A319neo?

[@ariantes221]

An advantage the A319 has over the A220 is its high altitude landing/take off performance, which would explain why Tibet Airlines likes it so much.

[@Celestial_Arishem]

Yes.

[@jantjarks7946]

Compared, A220 is no competition in hot and high environments to the A319, indeed.

[@jjoulekelvin2986]

He is speaking about NEO NOT CEO.

[@Pz349]

​@@jantjarks7946 why would that happen, I think A220 is smaller and should be more versatile

[@jantjarks7946]

@@Pz349 Why would what happen?

[@nathonn9334]

tibet airlines is a massive customer. i wonder why i believe it is because of Lhasa's high performance requirements, where tibet airlines flies ofen

[@Biggunkief]

That is the actual reason.

[@wainber1]

@@Biggunkief The Tibetan Plateau has some of the highest land altitudes in the world.

[@scpatl4now]

If you think about it, the A319 carries around the same # of passengers as the A220, yet the A220 has 5 seats per row, while the A319 has 6. That gives the A220 a better flying experience for passengers

[@boahneelassmal]

The A319's popularity has been declining for over a decade now. I am surprised Airbus even bothered to re-engine it. Keep in mind, EasyJet's fleet used to be a319 in majority. They started to upgrade and increase their A320 numbers over a decade ago. This was already a sign that the A319 was to small for today's capacity requirements. It's the same with the 737. It started out well small and now look at it. It's come to a point where boeing kinda has to get a new Project going because they physically can't stretch it any further. Keeping those trends in mind, it's not a surprise the A319neo is selling so slow / hardly at all.

[@MrSchwabentier]

It‘s always a question on how much commonality the variants have and therefore, hoe much additional costs you have by building that variant. If you already have the A320 NEO certified and the additional costs for certification of an A319NEO are very small, why not just build it? You don’t loose much but have another option that pressures the competition.

[@k9killer221]

With the same engines as the A320, but being smaller and lighter, it has a hot and high performance advantage. Niche market.

[@carsten2293]

There’s one exception. The 757-200 was much more popular than the -300 🙊

[@agent_605]

To be fair, the -200 had a production run about 4 times longer than the -300…

[@sainnt]

@@carsten2293 Another two examples bucking the trend; the 787-10 less popular than the 9, and the A350-900 way more popular than the 1000.

[@AbdullahNajib-b9z]

@@sainnt another example:320ceo beating 321ceo

[@sainnt]

@@AbdullahNajib-b9z Indeed.

[@gteixeira]

In all these cases the stretched version came much after the short one, thus airlines had already bought the original length one and wouldn't wait for the stretch or more likely bought the short one, then requested a stretch for the end of the run.

[@chiad25]

I think the A319neo has a very low priority with Airbus. The A319neo takes up the same production-slot as an A321neo, but is sold for considerably less.

[@김한샘-n1e]

To fly some airport in Tibet and Chinese high elevation (altitude) airport. CAAC requires several options to manufacturer like high altitude landing systems, extra oxygen tanks and high trust engine options. Today, Airbus A319ceo(CFM56-5B7/3, V2527M-A5), A319neo and A330(Trent 772C-60) and Boeing 737-700(CFM56-7B26E) got certified for HEA operation in China. As of now, only A319neo ("brand new")is capable of HEA operation.

[@cpgoef6]

I like that we (in the 319) can climb to FL380 and FL390 to get over the WX versus the A321 where we’re stuck down at FL330 or lower usually due to weight.

[@joshuadominictoling5310]

I like flying Airbus A319neo + A330-800neo while traveling. This includes Airbus A320neo + Airbus A330-900neo as well.

[@ilmarilah1195]

If it includes both the 800&900 just say A330neo

[@Nicolas-ol7jl]

stfu soyboy

[@힐만94]

4:06 love this view cos it shows high by pass ratio means... just look at the size of the engine vs. the fan blades ratio..

[@stradivarioushardhiantz5179]

The Manufacturer failed to advertise A319neo cabin configuration f/ commercial Airlines....... ........A319neo possibility premium configuration; 1. 10 Business Suite (5 row) 2. 12 Premium Economy (3 row) 3. 90 Economy (15 row) Total; 112 passagers Possible Max Range; 5000nm (3 ACT) .....While still maintaining ShortER Field Performance

[@Weryl]

Less Buissnes (6 would be enough) more economy, a little bit more range (you cant even reach asia with this now) and i can see some sense in that. Right now i could only imagne some wird airline using it in more premium variant to conncect London City Airport with whole US as Premium Buissnes.

[@Thesmellofrain-h6o]

The a318 and the a319 series are cute little airliners. That’s their appeal! They’re cute! Kidding.

[@mjoelnir1899]

It is still a bit early as there are quite a few A319ceo in use and perhaps those fleets have to get older before they are replaced. Airlines have been expanding and using the bigger frames for expansion. Air Tibet and other customers use the A319 for high elevation smallish airports. It is no bother for Airbus to produce one and one A319, all parts are the same as on a A320 and the shorter fuselage is produced on the manufacturing lines with the same tools. And I assume that Airbus does not care much if they sell an A220-300 or the A319 neo. The A319 has a range and payload advantage compared to the A220-300. I would say wait in watch.

[@trevormarion9100]

Delta already went the route of the A220, but could see American and United going for the A319neo to replace their current A319ceo fleets in the next several years. Only so much up-gauging that they can do. Would make sense to have commonality with the large quantity of A321ceos and A321neos orders currently in their fleets and on order.

[@EpicThe112]

You are correct on that for United they have a dilemma how are you going to replace the Aging out B737-724s

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

both the A318 LR & A319-100 are the most mismatched airframe in the commercial air travel market . . . originally thought up to cater to large cabin private jets in the air charter market & compete with Boeing's BBJ program . . . the A220-300 is the apt replacement for the A318 LR & A319-100 hands down . . .

[@iceman9678]

A318 = the short bus

[@houghi3826]

Less popular than the the rest does not mean it is a bad option. For all we know it does way better than expected. Niche products are a thing and serve a specific purpose. Imagine they did NOT have it. That would mean that Tibet Airlines would go with an other company. And that could mean that that is just enough difference that the mother company goes away from Airbus as well.

[@iceman9678]

The short bus (A318) is a very special niche aircraft. It is analogous to the B737-500. It would be nice to see these converted to business class only aircraft for short haul flights. I know it'll never happen. Anyway, Allegiant can make these work in their business model if the price is right.

[@sunset-life]

Wasn't there a business class only british airways A318?

[@boffisgd]

Dont forget 737-600 also.

[@youseflatif796]

Yep, but that service was ended in 2020.​@@sunset-life

[@mlib8675]

Allegiant is an interesting case…they have a lot of A319s but those and their A320s are all ceo models according to Wikipedia. They must not fly them as much per day so the fuel savings is less important, they flew MD-80s until recently. My experience with them is that they serve routes only a couple times a week. They do seem to be the ones looking for deals on planes, ordering a bunch of 737 MAX’s when everybody else was cancelling. I’m sure Boeing gave them a good deal! Some of those are MAX 7s, so it’s plausible they could switch to A319neo’s if Airbus can make a deal.

[@ZombieKiller1965]

The a319neo will/is a popular ACJ choice as it has the highest range of the family however a new A321ACJ xlr might end that advantage.

[@Plab1402]

Well.. the A220 stoled most of its market, i hope the 319neo can still be successful tho

[@Weryl]

It's only make sense for smaller cariers that needs just a few A319 size planes with majority of planes being an A320/A321. So few that adding another (better) type would cost too much. Even A320 if A220-500 would be placed into service is not gonna make too much sense further just becosue A220 is so much superior plane.

[@hardiansyahnotosaputro5408]

the advantage of a319 neo was CFM LEAP-1A more reliable engine than a220 pw1500g

[@alexanderordinary2110]

was looking at fuel burn numbers; this thing burns around 100 galons/hr more than the 220...... there's your🤔🤔 answer

[@sundragon7703]

In the US, the other competitor for the A319neo size of airliner is Embraer.

[@gteixeira]

Shortened versions usually sell much worse than a stretch, like the 747SP and the L-1011-500. The Embraer 135 and 140 only sold relatively well because of the scope clauses, and even there less than the 145.

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[@EpicThe112]

In the United States and Canada there should be a need for A319neo for the Legacy carriers that has to fly out of hot and High Conditions Short runways examples JAC DEN ABQ SLC EYW🇺🇲 YYC🇨🇦.For AA/DL if they went A319-151Ns this would end up finishing off their old A319-111 A319-114s UA A319-151N or A319-171N finishing off the aging out A319-131s

[@ricahrdb]

Is there a big price difference between the A319neo and the A320neo? Given the relatively small differences from a technical standpoint I assume there isn't.

[@MrSchwabentier]

roughly 10%

[@FloppaAppreciationSociet-ds7zf]

Air travel is growing year-by-year, and the same routes end up requiring larger planes than they used to. The same reason A321neo is outselling A320neo by over 50% at the moment, while the situation was reversed for the previous generation A320 family. A319 was also cannibalised somewhat when Airbus aquired the A220 from Bombardier, so no wonder it's selling poorly.

[@matsv201]

Either you need a A320 series, and you can just buy a A320neo in stead... or you need a smaller aircraft. Then you buy a A220 that not only habe the -300 but also the -100 series for more optimal thin lines. Or even the E2 seried where the 195 model is only slightly smaller than the 319.. amd the 170 model significantly smaller. More over the A220 provide significantly better confort than the 319. Of cause, before the 319 become neo.. there was some advantages to it. They bassically all gone. A A320neo is bassically just better.

[@raytheonbuna1021]

Order more A319s! Baby Airbuses are cute!!!

[@Thesmellofrain-h6o]

My sentiments exactly!

[@gop4usa12]

Though most airlines prefer A220, it looks like they'll have to settle for the A319neo. If I'm not mistaken, the A220 has been put out of production due to unprofitability. Mentour Pilot put out a video explaining the problems Airbus has had with their A220 project. I recently flew on an A220-100. I was impressed with its short takeoff distance. I think it got off the ground in less than 1/4 mile.

[@MrSchwabentier]

The A220 is not out of production and there are also no plans to do so

[@bijaysitaula7006]

The A319 neo is good aircraft as it can operate in high Altitude conditions with short runway. An Airlines that have A320 in its fleet can operate A319 neo rather than A220 because they have different type rating .

[@oadka]

Does this mean that in the next generation A320, there won't be a A319 variant? Or will they still keep it since it is much more suitable for corporate jets and benefits from the commonality with the rest of the family?

[@simonsvennung590]

The iberia also hade a flight from Stockholm to Madrid with the new a321xlr

[@planflykt]

I believe the A319 will never reach 100 units delivered. Probably A320 would sell even better with a small stretch into a 'A320-300' with cabin space for up to 200 pax in LCC configuration. There is a quite big gap between the A320 and A321.

[@timb4098]

The A319 NEO is better because the aircraft has two engines option rather than one.

[@ahmadzahid266]

A319neo could have orders later as ACJ or airlines looking for an aircraft in this segment equipped with the CFM LEAP engine, which is not available on A220 and boeing 737 MAX 7 has not yet been certified.

[@joshuadominictoling5310]

Airbus A220-100 + Airbus A350-900 are good ones to fly with. Some Airbus A220-300 + Airbus A350-1000 are also great ones.

[@Noah-ui1iu]

The A319 especially empty is like a little sports car as far as climb performance.

[@DEUTSCHES_KAISERREICH..]

Little😂 nah, this thing rockets out of airports with 5000 fpm

[@AbdullahNajib-b9z]

boeing makes better rockets.airbus does make good ground targeting rockets however🤣

[@Plab1402]

Nothing beats the b757 tho, that thing is a true sports car of the sky, but yeah! I flew in a 319 once, it climbs pretty fast!

[@PInk77W1]

The A321neo is selling like Hot cakes

[@kkrsnn5632]

Some cargo capacity pretty much the only argument?

[@eduardoguerrero7784]

perhaps the program will be relegated to ACJ and defense related airframes, plus the option of cargo variants maybe?.

[@keelandietrich4548]

The worrying thing for this NEO is that Spirit is now gone what hope does in have in other fleets everyone wants bigger and better. The Neo is better not bigger

[@liambengif7663]

A319n could be great max 7 competitor and -700NG replacement . Strange why it’s not doing the best

[@oadka]

because the only airline with meaningful demand for the max 7 is southwest and they are firmly boeing only.

[@AbdullahNajib-b9z]

and max 7 is better

[@liambengif7663]

@@AbdullahNajib-b9z it is .If it ain’t Boeing I probably ain’t going . Unless it’s an a340 or a380, best airbus planes ever made

[@AbdullahNajib-b9z]

@@liambengif7663 i actually think a340 is the worst.but i will agree that a380 is a good airbus.the only worth planes airbus has made are .a400 .eurofighter .the helis .a380

[@Plab1402]

​@@AbdullahNajib-b9z faa really hates it for some reason

[@TheShowblox]

Cool video, but the weird gig antic words on the thumbnail just make it look crappy

[@sainnt]

The A319neo will never see 100. For a small or regional narrowbody, the A220 is simply a much better, much more modern aircraft.

[@Bgrmplanespotting]

Possibly the A319neo could be replaced by the B737 MAX 7

[@karenhu1570]

Hm id rate 9.5/10 vid

[@JungleJetAviation06]

If Spirit bought it yes.

[@user-yt198]

Tibet = high altitude. Does it ring a bell?

[@janusz4156]

30 years of A319 in 2025.

[@peterfinn6098]

Because the A220s stole this market

[@mh12-47]

Because the A220 does a better job

[@alicelund147]

Not good for Airbus because the A220 is produced with a loss but the A319 probably profitable.

[@AbdullahNajib-b9z]

so,boeing wins again

[@Plab1402]

​@@AbdullahNajib-b9zthey're literally in fire right now with their stock dipping at a extreme rate, workers striking, whistleblowers being killed, lots of drama over the max, Boeings in a worst shape

[@ZartiaProd]

Boeing ain't winning shi when they're on fire currently

[@gvlambo]

Airbus still makes the A319?!

[@jr800w]

No one wants to be stuck in a small capsule for 8 to 10 hours while breathing in everyone’s farts and snot.

[@Biggunkief]

Please read the title again.

[@Your_Local_Nerd]

ok

[@LongHaulbySimpleFlying]

Thanks! 🙈