Poor Sellers: The Least Popular Airbus & Boeing Aircraft Variants

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Long Haul by Simple Flying

Long Haul by Simple Flying

Күн бұрын

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@landocalrisian2014
@landocalrisian2014 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the A330-800 get some life-renewing orders to its books. I do believe as stated in the video that the 787 is a major factor in the lack of sales of the A330-800.
@GuitarGuy4647
@GuitarGuy4647 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they see an uptick in orders as the older A330-200’s & 300’s are retired. They’re certainly cheaper than 787’s & A350’s and some airlines might not need the added range of those aircraft. Hell, it would be nice if Delta & United would retire their 330’s & 767’s with these.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
@@GuitarGuy4647 UA already has a huge order in place for the 787 and to some extent the 321XLR to replace the 767s. Delta is one of the few carriers replacing some of the 767's with the 330NEO. Can't really say the neos are cheaper than the 787. Boeing has been very aggressive on the pricing given the volume of sales.
@sergiolaurencio7534
@sergiolaurencio7534 Жыл бұрын
​@@GuitarGuy4647 actually the a330-800 have more range than the 787-8 and 9. So really for replacement the 787-8 mare more sense, of course that all depends on the airline want the the circumstances ñ.
@claxmaster
@claxmaster Жыл бұрын
A330* You said A300-800
@landocalrisian2014
@landocalrisian2014 Жыл бұрын
@@claxmaster Appreciate you 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@elmurcis1
@elmurcis1 Жыл бұрын
Love that 757-200M on list as one clearly understands why it was needed and same time why nobody else needs it.
@BooksAce
@BooksAce 8 ай бұрын
while the idea behind it was good, later on, the airlines operated the plane as a full passenger one, converting it. It was only necessary once, when India had put an embargo on Nepal. Then, it was used for freighting fuel and cooking gas. Due to the niche type of aircraft, it had difficulty selling as well. All in all, even the Himalayan nation didn't need it.
@boahneelassmal
@boahneelassmal Жыл бұрын
B747SP sadly, before the 80's: 45 Flew on Qantas' 744ER. Gorgeous plane. my first long haul as well. Always get teary-eyed whenever they are mentioned or shown.
@Avionicx
@Avionicx Жыл бұрын
The 767-400ER is one of the most underrated aircraft in the world. They're gorgeous airplanes and are extremely comfortable to be on.
@jetaddicted
@jetaddicted Жыл бұрын
They’re a nightmare to work into, for cabin crews, and, with the BAe-146: the WORST airplane regarding the purity of its cabin atmosphere. Want cancer? Fly the 767.
@claxmaster
@claxmaster Жыл бұрын
i don’t give a shit i still like the 767
@BriscoelabMN
@BriscoelabMN 10 ай бұрын
I like the 767 a lot. But prefer the -300ER. Delta’s premium economy (premium select in a 2-2-2 config is quite nice).
@liambengif7663
@liambengif7663 3 күн бұрын
The air quality of a 767 is worse than on the oldest of United’s 777-200s 😂😂. They are so outdated
@jdf1stats
@jdf1stats Жыл бұрын
Flew on Delta's 764 with the updated cabin and loved it! Glad they're keeping them around and I hope Boeing will consider a NEO option. Love the 2-3-2 configuration.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
Boeing or GE are not pursuing a NEO version. Idea was rejected.
@Frostmear
@Frostmear Жыл бұрын
767-400 needs to be retired. I’ve worked on that thing and it’s a maintenance nightmare
@tomoconnell2320
@tomoconnell2320 Жыл бұрын
@@Frostmear really? More so than the -300 or just a comment regarding how long they have been flying?
@Frostmear
@Frostmear Жыл бұрын
@@tomoconnell2320 more so than the 300. The 400 constantly has issues, more than the 300 despite it being a newer model.
@magnustan841
@magnustan841 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always said the 767X will be a thing in the next 3 years so Boeing can mount some challenge in the middle-of-market segment. The 767s longevity in its existing form in unreal, so a MAX / X variant would be super appealing.
@cabottaxi
@cabottaxi Жыл бұрын
A330-800 neo should be selling better
@whoahdudeman
@whoahdudeman Жыл бұрын
I much prefer the 2-4-2 seating of the A330 to the 3-3-3 of the 787 and A350!
@filledwithvariousknowledge2747
@filledwithvariousknowledge2747 Жыл бұрын
Why? It has far too much range and the -900 is better
@whoahdudeman
@whoahdudeman Жыл бұрын
@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747 Because Delta was bellyaching about phasing out its 767s and the lack of a suitable alternative - I thought the 800 would fit the bill pretty well... :-/
@BrycePensabene
@BrycePensabene Жыл бұрын
It should! I think it will rack up more orders when the 200 variant gets retired in a few years because they are starting to age! I think in the long run it will do well.
@brakinglate8828
@brakinglate8828 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, the 787 is way better
@sliferxxxx
@sliferxxxx Жыл бұрын
I don't see the B747-400D and ER as being necessarily unpopular. Each was designed for a particular customer/market and were never meant to be available worldwide. As opposed to the B767-400 or the A340 in general.
@DavidTheScientist
@DavidTheScientist Жыл бұрын
I agree, and same with the 737-700ER (which I didn't realise had existed), and several other models listed - they were just relatively minor modifications of existing aircraft, and sometimes done at the request of just one or two customers... they wouldn't have made them for a small number of customers if the modification costs would have been huge. I somewhat disagree on the A340 - at least the A340-300 - as it sold moderately well, and shares a huge amount in common with the A330-300 (which was developed alongside), including the fuselage and most other components, so it did fill a role for a while until ETOPS changes allowed for the 777 and A330 to flourish due to their better economics.
@vincevanderperre8660
@vincevanderperre8660 Жыл бұрын
Cope
@TheStig_TG
@TheStig_TG Жыл бұрын
@@vincevanderperre8660 He really isn't coping with anything, he is stating a fact.
@liambengif7663
@liambengif7663 3 күн бұрын
@@vincevanderperre8660little crybaby those are big words you are using 😂😂😂. He was not even coping with anything 😂😂😂
@dbltrub98
@dbltrub98 Жыл бұрын
While the 747-8i didn’t sell very well I would still consider the airframe a success with the amount of 747-8f cargo planes that rolled out of the Everett factory. Just head to ANC in Anchorage, AK and they are everywhere.
@ArmyofSeaturtles
@ArmyofSeaturtles Жыл бұрын
they make so much money for us, freight carriers that found a niche for them, utilize them to the max, also 747-400 pilots can dual type it
@sergiolaurencio7534
@sergiolaurencio7534 Жыл бұрын
Really the main reason the passenger version didn't do well was because it came late to the mark, a marked were there were better planes of the new future.
@bonzrh68
@bonzrh68 Жыл бұрын
@@sergiolaurencio7534 couldn’t agree more! The introduction of twin engine long haul aircraft like the 777’s, the Korean Airline 747-8 is the aircraft you wanna fly long haul! It’s very beautiful and of course it’s the modern version of the Queen❤
@sergiolaurencio7534
@sergiolaurencio7534 Жыл бұрын
​@Rodrigo Hiyas I also agree! Would fly the 747 over anyone any day!
@theRome281
@theRome281 Жыл бұрын
​@@bonzrh68 That one or the Lufthansa one for us from Europe.
@Glen.Danielsen
@Glen.Danielsen Жыл бұрын
The A340-600 is a wow majestic machine!
@zakvilanilam3388
@zakvilanilam3388 Жыл бұрын
God the A340-500 and 600s are such nice-looking planes
@EthanPricco
@EthanPricco Жыл бұрын
Out of all of these, my favorite is the 767-400ER, because it’s the only one on this list that I have flown on.
@JavanHamiltonTV
@JavanHamiltonTV Жыл бұрын
3:33 The 764 entered service with Continental in 2000, and Tulip United never had them. So it’s only ever had two customers: Continental (now United) and Delta. It was custom designed and built for those two airlines. With that said, should we be including custom planes (like the 73GER and the 764) as “poor sellers”?
@Wheninflight
@Wheninflight Жыл бұрын
I believe with the A330-800 there is a potential with Delta. They have their aging 767-300ER’s and A330-200’s, the -800 being a good replacement for both, not already operating the 787.
@chengyoujiang6076
@chengyoujiang6076 Жыл бұрын
But the -800 has no difference with -900 when it comes to economics
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
They have had plenty of time to order them and chosen not to so doubtful.
@sergiolaurencio7534
@sergiolaurencio7534 Жыл бұрын
Considering they have already ordered the 737max, they could probably order the 787-8. But look at this, I'd don't matter what of the 2 they order, I am sure the both would be configuration of 2-4-2.
@basilpunton5702
@basilpunton5702 6 ай бұрын
Both the A318 and B737-600 were not sensible designs being with the same problems: both too small and too heavy
@Rasscasse
@Rasscasse 6 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this video Simple Flying. Thank you. Very informative.
@malcolm5514
@malcolm5514 Жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't give an honorable mention to the 737-600 with only 69 orders!
@wardogies
@wardogies Жыл бұрын
Or the 757-300
@arielsegal7515
@arielsegal7515 Жыл бұрын
i love 69 😂
@tenkloosterherman
@tenkloosterherman Жыл бұрын
The 737 is a stone-age plane that Boeing should have ceased producing 20 years ago. Should have kept producing the 757. Would have saved them the max disaster.
@CY5588
@CY5588 Жыл бұрын
EYO
@Iskalawagz24
@Iskalawagz24 10 ай бұрын
Nice
@nickduplooy8845
@nickduplooy8845 Жыл бұрын
I feel the 757-300 should've been mentioned, it did way more poorly than one would expect, with only 55 ordered
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
The baseline was 40.
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea Жыл бұрын
@@johniii8147 I think he meant in the honorable mentioned at the end.
@ronjon7942
@ronjon7942 Жыл бұрын
To me, the 757 is really attractive. It’s been one of the dually aircraft I could easily differentiate from others because of the forward section.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 Жыл бұрын
The 767-400ER was a highly niche variant of the 767 to replace Delta's L-1011 and Continental's DC-10 fleets. As such, not that planes needed to be built anyway.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 Жыл бұрын
There are several variants both for Airbus and Boeing that have not sold many but which nevertheless were profitable because they were very cheap to develop and certify but filled a small vacant niche. The 767-400ER is one, and the A318 another.
@ulysseslee9541
@ulysseslee9541 Жыл бұрын
NW before merging, buy A330s to replace their DC10 fleet and Delta also buy A330 after merging.
@almeidabryan1
@almeidabryan1 Жыл бұрын
A330-800 and A330-900 should have done better in terms of sales but with a huge number of A330 CEO yet to age and the B787 providing competition, I honestly don't know the future of this Variant.
@heidirabenau511
@heidirabenau511 Жыл бұрын
The A330-900 has done it's job for Airbus, the A330neo program was launched after the 787 entered service and was a response to the 787. The A330neo was simply meant to take a bite out of Boeing's cake so to speak and take some orders from the 787, which it has done.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
It hasn't been competitive with the 787
@mmm0404
@mmm0404 Жыл бұрын
​@@heidirabenau511 same as what the 777X is doing to the a350-1000. If the 777X never existed the a350-1000 could have had over 500 order by now
@k9killer221
@k9killer221 Жыл бұрын
I Like the A318. As a passenger experience it is identical to the A320/1 but it can get into smaller airports like London City.
@jatterhog
@jatterhog Жыл бұрын
Being based in Sweden, I’ve flown on Boeing’s equivalent - the 737-600 - many times with SAS. I really liked them, they were stable and robust in the sky and service was always fast compared to the -700 and especially the -800 that SAS also operate(d).
@Account_abandoned-q7m
@Account_abandoned-q7m Жыл бұрын
The a318 is like a320's lil' brother
@k9killer221
@k9killer221 Жыл бұрын
@@jatterhog I thought about that too. The smaller the plane the quicker is onboarding and deboarding. Service may be faster also.
@k9killer221
@k9killer221 Жыл бұрын
@@Account_abandoned-q7m It is.
@jatterhog
@jatterhog Жыл бұрын
@@k9killer221 that too - especially since SK usually use both the front and aft doors for 737/A320 boarding in most Scandinavian airports
@CoastEnergy
@CoastEnergy Жыл бұрын
flown on both the 767-400 and 747-8i and they are both wonderful. I understand the reasoning behind their lackluster orders but still think they should have sold at least a few more examples.
@Flexflex744
@Flexflex744 Жыл бұрын
The 757-200M is a cool bird after all, I like it
@skyserf
@skyserf Жыл бұрын
5:05 Continental had the 764s, legacy United had 763s.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
Yes UA never ordered the 767-400. Their DC-10s were replaced by the 777
@McLadenLLC
@McLadenLLC Жыл бұрын
would you consider a350ulr as an individual variant? if so then the number is also low, similar to the 744ER specifically tailored to qantas.
@MasterofBlitz
@MasterofBlitz Жыл бұрын
Should have been mentioned as they mentioned the B747-400’s sub variants. Here is one thing about that plane when I used to work at SQ. You had to be perfect with load control with that plane. Still remember days when we had to empty baggage containers just to load the aft bulk hold with bags just to counter the weight in the front (because of the giant fuel tank in the front cargo hold) or offloading cargo because too tail heavy (basically fun times with up to a 1 hour delay because of that and me filling out the delay report/getting chewed out for why was there a delay).
@dat_randomguy_
@dat_randomguy_ Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't think so bc the A350ULR was made because Singapore Airlines (and Qantas in the future) asked Airbus to modify the A350 just for their purpose, so it would only be made for the airlines that requested them, and would be willing to pay the higher price.
@McLadenLLC
@McLadenLLC Жыл бұрын
@@dat_randomguy_ JAL and ANA requested the 744D and it made to the list. which also reminds me of the 747-100BSR and the only two BSRSUDs delivered. they should be on the list as well. btw, Qantas has opted a350-1000 for its project sunrise.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
The 350ULR is really only a version for SQ that has fewer seats and some software changes. It's branding more than an actual new variant. It's a 350-900 configured with fewer seats. No structural changes at all.
@MasterofBlitz
@MasterofBlitz Жыл бұрын
@@johniii8147 So is the B747-400D. It can still be converted back to long haul service. The A350ULR is basically a giant additional fuel tank in the front cargo hold.
@user-yt198
@user-yt198 Жыл бұрын
Having a higher MTOW is not a bad thing _per se._ Maybe you meant OEW (Operating Empty Weight)?
@dejvaviationtrips
@dejvaviationtrips Жыл бұрын
Great video 👏❤️
@markvolpe2305
@markvolpe2305 Жыл бұрын
Weren't there only a few 747SP's produced for certain airlines?
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
He said earlier aircraft were not covered and those came out in the late 70s
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea Жыл бұрын
@@johniii8147 1975-76 plus they build 45 and the cutoff was 40.
@Liam_219
@Liam_219 Жыл бұрын
9:15 could someone please explain the differences between the 737-700 and -800 wings? I’ve read that line about the 737-700ERs wings being from the 800 but I can’t find any sources explaining the differences
@sushi777300
@sushi777300 Жыл бұрын
The 764 is a really nice longhaul ride. The 2-3-2 configuration is as good as it gets.
@markpimlott2879
@markpimlott2879 Жыл бұрын
It would seem to me as a highly experienced Canadian Arctic passenger (between 1966 and 2015) that in its day', the B757-M would have served Bradley Air Service (DBA AS First Air) and Canadian North Airlines (now amalgamated as Canadian North, would have well served the paved runways on their northern Provincial and Territorial routes. 'Couldn't be 'gravel kitted' like the B-737-200s that they still fly onto gravel and snow/ice covered runways (along with Norlinor and Air Inuit), however especially for the fly-in only regional hubs such as Inuvik, Norman Wells, Rankin Inlet, Cambridge Bay, Coral Harbour, Resolute Bay and Iqaluit, combis and combi-conversions are a very important part of the fleet 'Perhaps also still useful for Whitehorse-based Air North Airlines. Southern hubs include Vancouver, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ottawa fibreglass Montreal! My first flight on the Montreal, Frobisher Bay, Hall Beach, Resolute Bay route was during June and September 1966 on a Nordair Lockheed Super Continental combi! On that decade old place at that time, the freight on the main deck wasn't even separated from the passenger seating by a bulkhead! Our initial ton of gear and supplies for a three year long Arctic Wolf research program was strapped down amongst other freight under '6G' cargo nets almost within touching distance. [Included was the world's first Amphibious All Terrain Vehicle (AATV); a six-wheeled fibreglass hulled JIGER!] 🇨🇦 🦊 🐺 🦊 🇨🇦
@ahmadzahid266
@ahmadzahid266 Жыл бұрын
the 767-400ER is my favorite and interested version of 767s which sadly only two airliner are have it and i hope keep in service longest possible, speaking of 747-400ER they are an updated version of regular 747-400 with some 400ER features like boeing signature interior a smaller design of cabin which used in 777, 767-400 and an updated 767-200/300, and an updated cockpit's display using LCD rather than CRT displays, they didn't sell well because it was around end of the line of passenger version of 747-400 and many airliners switched to 777-300ER the Airbus A330-800 may have some (not huge) order for VIP and some airliners
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
UA never ordered the 767-400 on it's own. Only CO and DL placed orders in the US
@Ayugaming42
@Ayugaming42 Жыл бұрын
I just love the look of 747s let it be any type 100,200,300,400,SP,8,8i,400f,8f etc
@ecclestonsangel
@ecclestonsangel Жыл бұрын
That beautiful bird is poetry in motion. I love all 74 variants, too. It is truly a magnificent plane, no matter the variant. My eyes start stinging whenever I see one.
@Ayugaming42
@Ayugaming42 Жыл бұрын
Very True
@xander1052
@xander1052 10 ай бұрын
if 7400km is barely being able to fly across the atlantic, then I guess Detroit and Milan are practically in the middle of it then.
@kennedyxhulu4933
@kennedyxhulu4933 Жыл бұрын
For Aircraft like B737-700C and Er variants, the 747-400 D and Er and A350 ULR have been specifically ordered to suit airlines demands in range, freighter or seating capacity hence they couldn't accumulated much orders. But for Aircraft like the A340-300,-500,A330-800 ,B737-900 non and Er 747-8i could have done/can do better in terms of sales but all in all it all comes down to the airline economics.
@Ayden2008
@Ayden2008 7 ай бұрын
Some of these like the 747-400D, 747-400ER, and the other 2 737-700 variants, I never knew these existed
@widget787
@widget787 Жыл бұрын
The 767-400 is much more than just a 767-300ER stretch with a little more wingspan. They incorporated a lot of the new 777 tech into the -400. It has the flight deck and cabin of the 777, also it has a taller Main Gear with 777 tires/brakes. It had two problems: 1st it came a few years too late IMO and second, as already mentioned, the A330-200 which had the same passenger capacity but better/higher range/performance plus it can load the big containers. A 767-400ERX might have been more popular but it died with the 747-400X, which was supposed to use the same engine. The third customer of the 767-400 was not United, the original United never ordered the -400. But there was a third customer: Kenya Airways. They later switched their order to the 777. The 757-300s problem was 1st that it came to the market muuuch to late and second that there was no ER variant. Another key feature or even THE key feature of the 747-400D was a strengthened Landing Gear to allow for more cycles. The A330-800 will never become a big success. Just like the 777-8 it serves a niche which is very small. For just a few extra tonnes of empty weight Airlines get the A330-900 which offers 30-40 more seats and can fly 97% of the missions. Airlines would rather fly these extra seats empty on a few routes to have the range potential. Airbus was smart stopping the A350-800, I don't get why they realized the A330-800. The reason why the A330-200 sold much better is because the early A330-300 had much less range than today.
@TenorCantusFirmus
@TenorCantusFirmus Жыл бұрын
Despite being pre-1980s: Dassault Mercure - Just 13 bought by AirInter, a now defunct French regional Airline. Problem was this plane was in fact operable just from Paris, it was too specialized in short-haul flights to reach any other major city without intermediate stops.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 5 ай бұрын
Its important to note that a variant that sells in small numbers only may still be profitable either because it fills a small but important niche that you can charge a lot per unit for, or because the change from a popular base model is small and the variant was therefore cheap to create, or a bit of both. A couple of those on this list were actually nice little earners while others were true money pits. It would have been good if the video was able to give some indication of which was which.
@paco291
@paco291 Жыл бұрын
According to pilots, the 37-900, 57-300, 67-400, and 777-300(not the ER) were underpowered compared to other precious and newer models of the same model airplane. They were stretches without much of an engine update/upgrade.
@supericeman1
@supericeman1 Жыл бұрын
3:00 the 767-300F did not enter service in the early 80s first flight was june 1995 with UPS
@Alohaseyolli
@Alohaseyolli Жыл бұрын
I was expecting to see the 737-600 on that list!
@kebo42
@kebo42 7 ай бұрын
Where is the fuel aux tanks located at 737-700ER?
@alexbus802
@alexbus802 8 ай бұрын
I really love the A330-800. I always mention it in all of my old airplane videos. It is also my most favorite aircraft. I always think it should have performed better in terms of sales.
@adrianp3098
@adrianp3098 Ай бұрын
I’ve been on the 747-400er, was a comfortable flight and sad to know she was scrapped.
@evanm225
@evanm225 Жыл бұрын
I will be on the 767-400ER with United from IAD to MAD and back this summer
@umbreon0017
@umbreon0017 Жыл бұрын
Delta’s 764s have been flying into Dublin alot recently so I got to see one irl ❤
@ericjones7769
@ericjones7769 Жыл бұрын
And by the way United never ordered the 767-400s they simply inherited those from their merger with Continental Airlines in 2010 my friend
@7667neko
@7667neko Жыл бұрын
777-200LR is my fave from them all.
@patrickjan7896
@patrickjan7896 Жыл бұрын
The only major reason why they failed is because there’s only a few marketing niche applicable for the variants. Boeing 747 400Er for example, for a short haul? Very rare
@visheshbeesony6191
@visheshbeesony6191 Жыл бұрын
My favourite aircraft is the a318 100,a319neo,a340 500,777 200lr,a330 800neo and 737 900
@vincentcalvelli6452
@vincentcalvelli6452 Жыл бұрын
B767-400 is an outstanding aircraft
@jdf1stats
@jdf1stats Жыл бұрын
Still is.
@PVZBlover
@PVZBlover 6 ай бұрын
My favorite one has to go with the A319neo because China Southern Airlines had 4 of these and Tibet Airlines had 6 of these. Also the A319neo is a shortened A320neo
@Pwj579
@Pwj579 Жыл бұрын
747-8I is an amazing aircraft with new 787 systems including wings, engines, cockpit and others
@ronjon7942
@ronjon7942 Жыл бұрын
Despite being a Boeing and Lockheed (hashtag #bring back the TriStar!) fan, I genuinely wish the A340 was more of a hit, although 764 delivered, all variants, is no slouch of a record. I get the efficiency of two engines, but my desire to see more built is strictly an emotional wont. It’s beautiful with its four engines, and just looks powerful and uber reliable (zero accidents involving fatalities, and only 6 hull losses, most of which appear to have happened on the ground). What a plane for military usage - a high performance, highly efficient 707 replacement for AWACS, EW, recce, tanker, and cargo. Was it ever used in such a fashion?
@Not_a_JK
@Not_a_JK Жыл бұрын
777-200LR should have performed better
@Flexflex744
@Flexflex744 Жыл бұрын
Technically it sold much better, if you consider that the 777F was based on it.
@GuitarGuy4647
@GuitarGuy4647 Жыл бұрын
It’s not surprising that the 200LR & A350-900ULR aren’t big sellers - they’re niche planes and most airlines are interested in utilizing that sort of range for it to be a worthwhile investment.
@heidirabenau511
@heidirabenau511 Жыл бұрын
​​@@GuitarGuy4647 The thing with the A350ulr is that Singapore Airlines requested the aircraft, like how Qantas asked Boeing to make the 747-400ER, there is also the 737-700ER.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Жыл бұрын
It was always intended primarily for the F market. Boeing always knew that. Just not much demand for ULR aircraft. They would have never built it without the F version. It sold as they expected.
@prestonautic772er
@prestonautic772er Жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite is the Boeing 777-200LR. Though I totally understand the anticipated reasons of why not many were ordered in terms of purpose and worth.
@prestonautic772er
@prestonautic772er Жыл бұрын
If that’s the case, shouldn’t the A350-900ULR be mentioned as well? Only 7 of them are in service. If not, maybe it’s because it’s still fairly new, and the range is only needed for Singapore’s longest routes.
@CY5588
@CY5588 Жыл бұрын
A340-500 is too underrated. This plane has long range, good safety, and not that bad performance. Seriously tho, it is pretty strong.
@aseeraj
@aseeraj Жыл бұрын
The 757-200M sits deserted at Tribhuvan International Airport
@n118nw
@n118nw Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the 767-400ER a failure, it specifically made to fill a gap in the market with legacy carriers retiring the tri-holers like the L1011 and DC10 used by both Continental and Delta while maintaining the existing type certificate with ETOPS180 and there wasn't anything available at that time that could do the job that was affordable (777-200 costs more than double a 767-400ER plus the wait time was long), not to mention neither Continental nor Delta operated the A330 at that time. It was never meant to be a long term solution as Boeing was working on the 787-8 that was meant to replace the 767 fleet for both airlines. United/Continental kept their 787 orders while Delta cancelled all of them and instead ordered the A350. Delta is slated to retire their 767-300ER's by 2025 and United has stated they will retire their 767-300ER's by 2030. Neither airline has said they plan to retire the -400ER's any time soon.
@TheAvGee
@TheAvGee Жыл бұрын
It was real surprise when I saw the a330. It seems popular and also the b777-300.
@RandomGuy28419
@RandomGuy28419 Жыл бұрын
I love B757-200M because it's unique design
@ChristopherBurtraw
@ChristopherBurtraw 6 ай бұрын
It's the same reason the 737 max still sells despite everything against it. Fleet commonality and availability. Even better if the price is better.
@Carlifurafollas
@Carlifurafollas Жыл бұрын
The main issue for the A330-800 is that a lot of regular A330-200 are yet pretty new so they still have few years of service remaining
@allthat46
@allthat46 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, and it didn't cost much to develop, so will work out well for Airbus in the end
@aprilborne1406
@aprilborne1406 Жыл бұрын
I like 787-10 best and 767-400 should be remastered with new technologies both in cockpit and engine, to get the good number of order from customers.
@shrimpflea
@shrimpflea Жыл бұрын
Never gonna happen. The 767 is on it's last legs.
@ericeplanes
@ericeplanes Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the 757-200M in Kathmandu Tribuvan Airport.
@basilpunton5702
@basilpunton5702 6 ай бұрын
To list the 747-400ER without talking about the 747-ERF is not a good idea. QANTAS really needed that craft, it was the first 747-400 able fly Sydney to Los Angeles with a full load.
@momarytube
@momarytube 9 ай бұрын
I wondered why the 747-400D was mot use on American soil I believe it could have cut back a lot on Flight frequencies on certain routes...
@chandrachurniyogi8394
@chandrachurniyogi8394 3 ай бұрын
the A330-200 pax variant had more range than the A330-300 although at the cost of reduced capacity . . . ur analysis is centered around the A330-200 F variant which has less range than the A330-200 . . . the A340-500 HGW had the longest range (16,820 kms) of all A340 variants . . . Singapore Airlines operated eight A340-500 HGW on extra-long haul routes Singapore (SIN) - New York (JFK) non-stop between 2006 - 2018 . . . the B767-400 ER should have sold more units or atleast at par with the B767-300 ER . . .
@AaronShenghao
@AaronShenghao Жыл бұрын
Some of these are not intended to sell, just like phones, they are priced to entice airlines to spend more buying an A350 or 777. Or trying to keep airlines stay within their ecosystem.
@N330AA
@N330AA Жыл бұрын
Don't think United ordered any 764, they simply inherited them from Continental.
@elliotjunior1255
@elliotjunior1255 Жыл бұрын
The most 'shocking' poor performance here is definitely the A330-800. It doesn't really make sense since almost 600 airframes of its predecessor -200 were delivered, and obviously pretty old at this point. It deserves more orders, especially from the -200 operators.
@milanmilan2
@milanmilan2 Жыл бұрын
A340 is a beautiful aircraft, one Air France ver. crash landed here in Toronto a few years ago unfortunately... everyone survived.
@ronjon7942
@ronjon7942 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I learned there were only six hull losses out of 754 delivered, and zero fatalities. That has to be a record; if not, it’s still very impressive.
@TheFoxyFoxers
@TheFoxyFoxers Жыл бұрын
The 767-400er should've been the double decker Boeing considered before production of the Boeing 777
@astgafl4427
@astgafl4427 6 ай бұрын
The A330-800 will leave this list for sure
@liambengif7663
@liambengif7663 3 күн бұрын
Lufthansa here still operating the 747-400, a340-300, And a340-600 ❤❤
@bizziselln
@bizziselln Жыл бұрын
I love the A340 such a beautiful plane ✈️ ❤
@Wongwanchungwongjumbo
@Wongwanchungwongjumbo Жыл бұрын
Boeing 747SP and Lockheed L1011 Tristar were Introduced to Aviation world 🌎 and 45 Boeing 747SP and then 40 Tristar were first ordered due to the Size of the Airframe Fuselage of 747SP and Tristar S Shaped 2nd Upper Emgine Duck .
@Blackneck1994
@Blackneck1994 Жыл бұрын
Embraer: “pick me, pick me”.
@flydreamerroleplay225
@flydreamerroleplay225 Жыл бұрын
A319LR only a few ordered. Actual/Ex operators such as Qatar Airways (2), Air France (1), Tunisair (2?), Privatair (2?).
@zapszapper9105
@zapszapper9105 2 ай бұрын
A new A330 XLR, might dent 787 and A350 sales in the point to point market. If it has all the latest construction materials and can do the 17k trick. etc Europe- Australia, Or New Zealand- East Coast USA
@TheShowblox
@TheShowblox 19 күн бұрын
It’s just mainly that Airbus is not really destined for success when it comes to cargo
@VeniVidiAjax
@VeniVidiAjax Жыл бұрын
The 767-4ER was basically the test version of a 777-3.
@SimpleFlyingNews
@SimpleFlyingNews Жыл бұрын
First?
@annoyingguyoninternet1631
@annoyingguyoninternet1631 Жыл бұрын
Whyyy
@jeffayoe7468
@jeffayoe7468 Жыл бұрын
damn i think so
@heidirabenau511
@heidirabenau511 Жыл бұрын
What are you doing here, commenting first?
@Wongwanchungwongjumbo
@Wongwanchungwongjumbo Жыл бұрын
Customer were Fussy about Range and Fuel efficiency and Boeing introduce the Biggest Twin jet Aircraft ,Boeing 777 family and was Successful and developed the Future Boeing 777-9 Variant of ETOPS rating.
@ulysseslee9541
@ulysseslee9541 Жыл бұрын
coz lots of airlines no demand for replace fleet/ expand service and airlines still receiving the current order in these 5-10 years.
@TheGweilo701
@TheGweilo701 Жыл бұрын
Canada 3000 sounds like it should be the title of a movie not an airline! 😂
@jtwilliams8895
@jtwilliams8895 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Boeing already try catering to the Japanese market with the 747SP? Which was disappointing to say the least. To try it again with the 744D just seems foolish
@iemanddiejenietkent6397
@iemanddiejenietkent6397 Жыл бұрын
y’all definitely forgot the E175-E2
@alexd1839
@alexd1839 Жыл бұрын
The 764 is my favorite plane. The 2-3-2 combined with the 777's windows make it one of the most comfortable, and god damn does it look good too.
@Wongwanchungwongjumbo
@Wongwanchungwongjumbo Жыл бұрын
Singapore 🇸🇬 Airlines did operated 5 Airbus A340-500 then.
@jinhyunkim2066
@jinhyunkim2066 5 ай бұрын
I Love Boeing B747-8I the most, the Queen of the sky, the second is B777-200LR, Long-Range Player.
@H00L3y
@H00L3y Жыл бұрын
How many 747SPs were made?
@shadowgaming6660
@shadowgaming6660 Жыл бұрын
7:58 Aloha Airlines tried a 737 convertible much earlier than Boeing did.
@MerkyAviation11
@MerkyAviation11 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the 737-600
@jedgar63
@jedgar63 Жыл бұрын
It did better than the standard 737-900, but could have made the "honorable mention" category.
@hamzanaeem704
@hamzanaeem704 Жыл бұрын
Airbus a330-800 is my favorite in all of these and it should be selling better
@malvinuku7878
@malvinuku7878 Жыл бұрын
I personally think the a338 would be perfect for aeronlineas argentina😊 or even indigo
@thefreshmaker001
@thefreshmaker001 7 ай бұрын
Airbus shot itself in the foot by extending the range of the A321LR, which diminishes the appeal of the A330-800.
@adriantroncoso5840
@adriantroncoso5840 Жыл бұрын
My favorite in the list is the Boeing 777-200LR.
@ianendangan7462
@ianendangan7462 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes the sales people are killing their own products by diverting clients choices. Example Philippine Airlines wanted more 747 but sales people persuaded the 777. Sometimes political forced to get boeing because washington is limiting PAL access to us airports.
@m1co294
@m1co294 10 ай бұрын
The 747 was already in the phase of being retired all over the world when PAL retired theirs, also the Philippines already has the FAA Type 1 certificate, it's just that PAL doesn't need any more routes to the Americas other than Hawaii, LA, NY, Vancouver and Toronto though it rarely appears on the schedule. They don't have enough aircraft for more routes to the US and simply caters to the routes that Filipinos would likely travel to. The "sales people" have no say in what aircraft airlines buy in the end, it's the people in charge of the airline's economics. The 747 was retired for the same reason why every other airline was retiring it; too large (especially for Philippine airports, one 747 is enough to get the whole terminal congested), ate up lots of fuel and too old. PAL took the 777 because it was more modern, was the perfect size, carried enough passengers and is economical.
@jfmezei
@jfmezei Жыл бұрын
how many 747-400 combis were made? air canada had a few (while Canadian had real 747-400).
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