Is There a Relationship Between Schizophrenia and Drug Use?

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PowerfulJRE

PowerfulJRE

3 жыл бұрын

This clip is taken from the Joe Rogan Experience #1593 with Dr. Carl Hart. open.spotify.com/episode/4xMb...

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@thebakery5555
@thebakery5555 3 жыл бұрын
People would transition to Spotify if they added comments.. comments are a big part of the experience
@Uncle-Bull
@Uncle-Bull 3 жыл бұрын
I use Spotify and don’t miss KZbin. I only come here to troll the babies that cry about the switch.
@gratefulgal6416
@gratefulgal6416 3 жыл бұрын
Theirs plenty of others. Brandnewtube , GAB,etc
@rogerm4a1
@rogerm4a1 3 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer it that way. People are cancerous no need to read that BS
@Noah-pk7tf
@Noah-pk7tf 3 жыл бұрын
@@Uncle-Bull sounds like you need a day job
@aliestercrowley641
@aliestercrowley641 3 жыл бұрын
Ya because without the comments we wouldn’t be able get all the deep and wise words that get posted. We will miss the the valuable “first!” comment, you tube comments are filled with language of philosophers and teachers.
@halowaffles
@halowaffles 3 жыл бұрын
Always got to appreciate an educated man who isn't afraid of "well.. i dont know". That makes me trust this man amongst most
@senoow4215
@senoow4215 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda low bar but ok 🤔
@halowaffles
@halowaffles 3 жыл бұрын
@@senoow4215 Don't see how. Perhaps you're seeing too much emphasis on the word "trust". It's not like I'm now going to take everything he says as gospel. It's far too common for people to be educated yet not intelligent, especially in today's world, and those are the people who have the loudest voices in today's society.
@senoow4215
@senoow4215 3 жыл бұрын
@@halowaffles more the "among most" part but i agree with u, tho i think that guy is obvi addicted to heroin but doesn't wanna admit it lol, i wouldn't trust him with much
@Motivatedk9
@Motivatedk9 3 жыл бұрын
or blows heroine and thinks its a good idea
@NebraskaGangCulture
@NebraskaGangCulture 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6KwgYKbqb6nn5o
@shanahan142008
@shanahan142008 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I started smoking at the end of high school, a decent amount in college, then after college for a few years. I was never someone who could be high all day, just more of a social thing or when I wanted to relax. Then 5 or 6 years ago when I was around 24 or 25, I remember getting paranoia every time I smoked. Nothing crazy like people trying to kill me, just a general sense of anxiety and people mocking me or my insecurities coming out, but it was very intense. I never experienced that when I was younger, even though there were times I was high as hell. I am a very social person and confident, but weed made me the literal opposite; introverted, scared, etc. I started researching and found scientists believe many things, but the two prevailing theories are: 1) weed can induce schizophrenia (or episodes) when someone is genetically prone to it and 2) physiologically a part of your brain can be more sensitive to THC, thus triggering either the pleasure feeling or paranoid feeling. I can't remember which part of the brain whether it was front back right or left, but I know they experimented on rats and found that to be true. Anyway, I quit trying to like weed because I used to like it, and stopped altogether. I find so many people are stubborn and want to like something, so they keep doing it even though it causes them harm.
@marchiano5933
@marchiano5933 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear that you quit man, strong move. I have a very similar story and quit aswell. First couple of years it was amazing; relaxing, lots of laughter, increased appetite, increased focus, it even made me think more deeply and profound. Then after a couple of years, same thing started to happen. Slowly damaging the relationships around me and when I finally recognized that that was a problem, I was very confused how it started.. since it went good for years.. (I was getting high grades at school, I had lots of friends, I had a side job with lots of responsibilities) Everything was really good when I was smoking for a couple of years. Also not a daily smoker like you said. More like weekends, parties, events, sometimes holidays. Then I just cold turkey quit, now been off it for like 3 years, smoked about 2 joints since, same feeling of paranoia came back. Maybe it's the amount of stress/responsibility we are now carrying that doesn't really go well with cannabis. Or our system just had enough from the substance.. idk. But I would still be curious to know how this evolved the way it did man. Anyway, I've evolved more than ever since I quit it and also have a vision now, whereas when I was smoking, I just totally lived in the moment or one day at a time. Hope to hear more about what you're thinking man, keep up the strong moves.
@adiliom5781
@adiliom5781 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@omarcapaso7156
@omarcapaso7156 3 жыл бұрын
Weed is horrible, people think it’s not that bad but it can severely mess people up, not necessarily you but everyone is different.
@shonuff4678
@shonuff4678 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say it made me more paranoid as I got older, but a lot of that was due to becoming an adult. There is a lot more things for an adult that cause anxiety and this can actually be heightened with marijuana. Specifically the fear of losing job, freedom, kids, etc. Since marijuana is illegal most places the paranoia becomes to much and takes away the good part about marijuana. Instead of laughing your praying you don’t get fired the next day due to a drug test. I’d say if society accepted it and it was 100% legal it would be different and people could relax. Until then I’m with you and haven’t touched it in several years.
@aarushtripathi1376
@aarushtripathi1376 3 жыл бұрын
Very true, continuing to do something you know is hurting you is such a vicious cycle
@jakeolsen3713
@jakeolsen3713 3 жыл бұрын
I was diagnosed schizophrenic about 5 years ago. I have been hospitalized multiple times, jailed literally a dozen times between multiple states, even attempted suicide when I was at my absolute worst,.. I tried countless treatments and medications both voluntarily and forcefully. After living several years in what looking back on now feels like thinking back to an actual nightmare,.. I am now currently living a relatively normal life. I have found that while in a psychosis or psychotic episode cannabis generally speaking is bad,..terrible in fact, but mostly because there isn’t any regulation on it here.. so if you were to go get a bag of marijuana you typically don’t know what that particular strand is or what kind of reaction you could get from it... some strands are like a miracle drug, where as others could send you so far down the rabbit hole, that it could end up getting them into an almost blackout state of psychosis that is extremely dangerous to the individual and potentially those closest to them. However, when my mental illness is in a dormant state I have found there is nothing better to treat schizophrenia in myself than marijuana, and the strand definitely doesn’t matter as much. I don’t over due it, but one or two tokes off of a small pipe does an exceptional job of keeping me in an almost perfect balance mentally. I hope in the future there is a lot more study done on this connection and if there is or are any I would be all in on helping to further it. Schizophrenia is very serious and should not be taken lightly. I know how lucky I am to have the life I do today and I was only able to achieve this through acceptance of the fact I have the illness. To anyone out there battling with schizophrenia if you are reading this, take a deep breath and know that you are not alone, and I am 100% willing to lend any insight or advice that I can if you need someone to talk to. You are not crazy, you’re not less of a person, and there is a light at the end of the tunnel, but it requires a very strong effort from yourself,...and the sooner you realize it is ok to be different, and that it is ok to need a little help once in a while.. the better 💚x♾
@nathanielgirma8265
@nathanielgirma8265 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said 👌
@b0ssfight.storage127
@b0ssfight.storage127 2 жыл бұрын
💜
@gavinkister3374
@gavinkister3374 2 жыл бұрын
just found this comment, as I have gotten older, Ive had more paranoia and extremally bad anxiety from weed. To the point where I could see the light and thought I was leaving this earth. Ive taken a break from it, but I have learned that taking a two hits gets me in a perfect balanced state, where Im not over thinking everything, and I am relaxed. I dont have schizophrenia, but I can relate to the anxiety from weed. You explained it perfectly
@jamescrispin2567
@jamescrispin2567 2 жыл бұрын
The level of thoughtfulness of your comment is impressive jake. Very glad to hear you're in a much better place now. It seems you understand yourself better and your level of acceptance and perseverance has done you well. I wish all the health and happiness to you. I smoked daily for 20 years or so, and until I stopped didnt realise I'd literally been walking around in a hazy daze for most of that time. I'm a musician so appreciate a bit of a creativity boost from time to time, but aside from the generic things alot of people describe in these comments havent experienced any dark times with it. I've recently come across wim hof and his breathing techniques, who says they can be very helpful to people with anxiety/depression etc. He lost his wife sadly to a dark episode she had and has put alot of years into bringing his knowledge and studies to the masses. If you've never heard of him or looked into it, might be of some use. All the best 💚🙏
@kingofthedead333
@kingofthedead333 Жыл бұрын
I use to smoke dabs while in psychosis i liked it at first but it did something to my brain idk how to explain it
@warrio961
@warrio961 3 жыл бұрын
im so disconnected from his show now that I have no clue who the guests are or who will come on or anything.
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 3 жыл бұрын
Yea its like watching clips from a TV show you've never watched.
@bikram366
@bikram366 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, dude :/
@JimmyR83
@JimmyR83 3 жыл бұрын
Same brother I catch a clip here and there but I’m not downloading Spotify
@blackout2430
@blackout2430 3 жыл бұрын
This guy has been on before. Casual
@saltybulldog3241
@saltybulldog3241 3 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyR83 Why? lol
@jacerainwater6296
@jacerainwater6296 3 жыл бұрын
This year my brother was diagnosed with schizophrenia. We’re both in our 20s and live in a house with our best friends. He developed it over a period of about 4 to 6 months. As he continued to be more and more delusional he just became a lot more scary and violent to be around. If you confront him in any way about anything he was saying which was usually a bunch of nonsense, but was very real to him. He also started using meth which just made him exceptionally more paranoid. At one point he called the police because he thought the house was surrounded by people that wanted to kill him. But he forgot he called the police and “when people with guns” knocked at the door he freaked out and when they came in he started crawling on the floor trying to get away from them. My brother is one of my favorite people in the entire universe, he used to be such an inspiration and joy to be around. At this point he is in a facility and finally on the medication he needs. But I feel guilty as a human being because I honestly don’t want to be around him after the things I’ve had to experience because of him. As he slowly developed schizophrenia he pushed everyone his life away except for me I was the only person who’s there for him who did everything he ever asked for but he still thought I was against him
@DadSkool
@DadSkool 3 жыл бұрын
Im sorry to hear that, I dont think amphetamine use directly contributed to his illness, more the lack of sleep and loss of appetite caused by over use of amphetamine. I also think this is recoverable allthough not in a hospital situation as he is now permanently diagnosed, forcefully medicated and locked up involuntarily without committing a crime. I dont know the solution but i do know that his human rights are being violated. I wen through a rough patch similar to what you described, i needed a "time out' Luckily i escaped, recovered and have been ok for nearly 20 years. i had alot of stress at the time with a dying son who survived and is ok now along with marijuana withdrawal symptoms that for me manifests as loss of appetite, insomnia and night sweats leading to the mental issues. I just needed some rest and care but was almost diagnosed permanently, my life was almost ruined by the mental health system and by my loved ones who cared a bit too much, now we realize the truth of the system. Im not saying his case is the same, just giving you something to think about. I hope he gets well but will never be the same if involved with the mental health system. I was lucky to escape the loony bin , recover then pay 500 bucks for a re-diagnosis or normality (whatever that is) and to be discharged and have the police stop looking for me but i have not ever heard of another escaping the system. I dont know what the solution is for your brother, maybe a restraining order? I dont think the solution is the abuse of his human rights though unless he is a criminal. This is not "minority report" I hope he gets better without too much damage by the system. i dont know what is worse, the illness or the treatment?? All the best, please dont take offense, i just wanted to give another perspective on this issue. I dont have the answers either, i only know what is not :(
@iolohammer
@iolohammer 3 жыл бұрын
@@DadSkool this was very appreciated, thank you Johnny
@zyons.saintgermain6813
@zyons.saintgermain6813 3 жыл бұрын
Same but I didn’t crawl on the floor...
@jonbailey8072
@jonbailey8072 3 жыл бұрын
Keep your head up man it’s not easy but if possible try to take the meth away that’s gonna make things a whole lot worse
@Cel2333
@Cel2333 3 жыл бұрын
Bro my prayers out for your brother, I don't have anything to say to you as I've no experience like yours whatsoever but stay strong brother! Be by your brothers side! Don't regret later!
@CodyNashHistory
@CodyNashHistory 3 жыл бұрын
As a caregiver for the last decade, one of the most common things in the schizophrenic patients I cared for were excessive meth use and LARGE quantities of Acid/LSD in their past.
@MichelleSmith-cf6ys
@MichelleSmith-cf6ys Жыл бұрын
Schizophrenia has existed since long before those substances exist but I’m sure the stress they put the body and mind under could increase the risk for sure
@darugdawg2453
@darugdawg2453 Жыл бұрын
we got experience to work in a mental institution for a month and yea thatidcry is right. cyes auses of mental illness can vary but most adult patients are tend to be an addict
@DemonMaldito1
@DemonMaldito1 11 ай бұрын
​@@MichelleSmith-cf6ys isn't schizophrenia removed from DSM since DSM-2 though? Because we are now using DSM-5... How do you explain that? Schizophrenia and Homosexuality were both classified as mental illnesses in DSM-2 but were removed from DSM-3 and beyond. 🤔
@gingerjeanbacall
@gingerjeanbacall 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. i wasnt much of a sleeper even before those things and can tell those tendencies years later are beginning to creep up but with full awareness it isnt real, but its like a jump scare in a movie. unpleasant but that's generally how i saw it too, because it was lsd then lsd and cocaine then lsd then speed. so i saw quite a bit of schizophrenic and delusion filled [people who could afford to be drug addicts i generally couldnt but its awful. all of them were jay walkers weirdly enough. all shoplifted things which werent worth more than a pencil case... i mean im struggling but i'm here, i cant imagine what it'd be like to be screwed up know it and know you can do something about it but dont want to. how the hallucinations hit some of those people socially....is frightening. think a low functioning psychosis and meth releases more than sex or cocaine (dopamine wise) with serotonin on top and hopefully not the full syndrome. so you combine sleep deprivation with that your in trouble. when i was 15 and obviously sober i knew anything day three forward meant you could predictably guess the hallucinations that would come but theyd still shock you. even if you knew they werent real. a good example is shooting up in the bathroom schizophrenia and hallucination wise. because before you shoot say a amphetamine it could be a clean toilet/bathroom and then afterwards you could imagine mess and then it feels like the right thing to do to clean it, thats where i suspect the whole cleaning thing and interest in fixing things comes from. complete delusion and its generally stimulants in high doses, faster delivery methods or without any sleep. acid is a hallucinogen i wouldnt say thats schizophrenia its vastly different what you see and hear in those instances. like i can sit here right now sober and totally remember that.
@stan-nz4ue
@stan-nz4ue 3 жыл бұрын
Weed can also cause depersonalization, I'd love to see Joe touch on this subject with an informed guest, depersonalization is not very well known but it does affect quite a lot of people.
@NoSe-ci5oc
@NoSe-ci5oc 3 жыл бұрын
What that
@seosamhv
@seosamhv 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Dealt with depersonalization and derealization for a little bit on top of post-concussion syndrome. Not fun & often not spoken about in conversations about mental health.
@AaronAlert77
@AaronAlert77 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoSe-ci5oc Not feeling like yourself, no sense of ego, feeling disconnected from your body or reality, don’t feel in control
@NoSe-ci5oc
@NoSe-ci5oc 3 жыл бұрын
@@AaronAlert77 oh ok , no sense of ego is good tho is it not? Accepting that the world , the universe isn’t all about me and that my atoms will one day be redistributed to this earth
@Tate525
@Tate525 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoSe-ci5oc You need some ego to function in the society
@marcos.aguilar1013
@marcos.aguilar1013 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle has schizophrenia and he got it through a phase of drug use and depression.( Meth, Alcohol, crack, etc.) All the family has given up on him except my mom ( his sister) it's sad to see but I talk to him the same as I do anybody. Hes still family, sucks man.
@Ashphinchtersayswhat
@Ashphinchtersayswhat 3 жыл бұрын
Your a good human being and family member. Most are forgotten..
@Yellow.1844
@Yellow.1844 3 жыл бұрын
respect, it aint easy
@Ashphinchtersayswhat
@Ashphinchtersayswhat 3 жыл бұрын
That's right, I think it needs to have been a digitally blacked out file. A lot of those are paper with film used to photograph.
@jordanjanuary9769
@jordanjanuary9769 3 жыл бұрын
You keep being you mane. Keep being that support, keep being that person he can lean on, keep being a guidance for him and you. He sees his purpose he needs and wants his (guardian Angel's/Ancestors/ Family) to all remember that it takes a village to come together and it takes a village to raise that child. He just wants to see you all happy and when he doesn't he will always get down on himself because he feels that you guys are drowning yourselves so when he gets down on himself is because he wants to make everybody at peace and happy and when he try's but feel like he can't it becomes to much to try to figure everything out for him. Just keep the peace live life, embrace one another that will heal the deep in him and you not all will be healed but that leap of faith that's instilled in you through your parents and ancestors you have it. The hard part is just taking that leap of faith bro. Sorry for writing you this but what you said will help alot of people to try to understand his perspective because we are the same but we all are a very unique rare form of the same thing
@xpuretovex
@xpuretovex 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hatchet_Jack556 its probably genetics
@kurtisbartholomew2561
@kurtisbartholomew2561 3 жыл бұрын
Wish Joes full episodes were still on KZbin...
@ResortDog
@ResortDog 3 жыл бұрын
Cancelled him for wrong speak
@kushbush2543
@kushbush2543 3 жыл бұрын
@@ResortDog lol that’s not true? He got paid over $100mil to go to Spotify
@85devlin48
@85devlin48 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the full episodes on spotify its free. Ive got used to it now.
@desmundlighten3603
@desmundlighten3603 3 жыл бұрын
@@ResortDog you are fake news
@AdamSpade
@AdamSpade 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m not easily moving to Spotify, even for Joes podcast. I just don’t like their service.
@Reenothesavior
@Reenothesavior Жыл бұрын
Speaking from experience . Smoking a lot of weed , going two - three days without sleep , and lots of Red Bull will introduce a schizophrenic episode
@mecurseyoumimikyu4701
@mecurseyoumimikyu4701 Жыл бұрын
I haven't experienced that? It might just be you. People are all different on drugs.
@mr.voidroy6869
@mr.voidroy6869 Жыл бұрын
From experience you dont need weed or drugs to do that. If you dont sleep for three days that will happen.
@webxorcist
@webxorcist Жыл бұрын
Going 2, 3 days without sleep and lots of Red Bull will get you there also. Don't need to introduce weed to the equation :D
@kenno8783
@kenno8783 Жыл бұрын
Yeah went a week without any sleep after weed withdrawals and had a full psychotic break. It's scarry the things you can learn about reality and your own mind after going through that shit
@josephking2295
@josephking2295 Жыл бұрын
Stop it weed and red bull are not gonna keep you up for three days
@RiverSparks
@RiverSparks 3 жыл бұрын
“I don’t want to bastardize his model and way of thinking about it” What a respectful man. Most people I feel, like to explain things they don’t even understand to try and come of as knowledgeable.
@Baconmanperson
@Baconmanperson 3 жыл бұрын
I had severe sleep deprivation after a traumatic event for myself and they tried to diagnose me with schizophrenia before attempting to treat the sleep deprivation. I very much believe that sleep deprivation is related to it.
@DadSkool
@DadSkool 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely, also stress and loss of appetite. These things are also side effects of many drugs. I am sure you can draw the correct lines to the point i am trying to make here. Take care, when you have these symptoms, try to realize the cause and that they will subside and try not to get caught up in the mental health system otherwise you will be diagnosed permanently and it is very hard, if not impossible to escape this diagnosis and forced treatment
@azraelblick4117
@azraelblick4117 3 жыл бұрын
Not just sleep dep, but rem sleep dep.
@DadSkool
@DadSkool 3 жыл бұрын
@@azraelblick4117 Yep, DEF, that is the problem with cannabis, is stops REM sleep causing you not to dream then when you stop smoking the dreams come back vividly as you incure a REM sleep debt.
@Matt-gl5fj
@Matt-gl5fj 3 жыл бұрын
it is the guy joe had on talking about sleep said the same thing
@DadSkool
@DadSkool 3 жыл бұрын
@Bootamate i am glad to hear nothing bad happened and you recovered. Many people have suffered the same as you but unfortunately for them, their loved oned cared abit too much and had hem permanently diagnosed with a mental illness and had their lives ruined. It sounds unbelievable but it happens all the time if someone has taken a prohibited drug and suffers this type of common brain fatigue.
@liamnissanS2K
@liamnissanS2K 3 жыл бұрын
Spotify Is a really shitty way to watch podcasts
@ddooley1588
@ddooley1588 3 жыл бұрын
The Spotify app is absolute garbage. Also. They won't let you use a VPN. Who the fuck are they to demand stealing my data
@stevewhite8263
@stevewhite8263 3 жыл бұрын
You're telling me every time I have a commercial it starts from the beginning again if you only knew how frustrating that is anybody else having that problem I'm talking about Spotify
@DeliciosoChino
@DeliciosoChino 3 жыл бұрын
I have Spotify premium and I have to sit through joe's ad!
@Deeplycloseted435
@Deeplycloseted435 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah....youtube is home. It works. Don’t fuck with it.
@FJB2020
@FJB2020 3 жыл бұрын
Then don't listen to him.. I stopped the day he left KZbin and took his library with him... Spotify owns him now and it's never going to be the same again..
@Kieran-jq5kk
@Kieran-jq5kk Жыл бұрын
Terribly scary thing, my sister developed it recently, she got to 11-12 and just changed, often fell out with friends thinking they were against her. Struggled to keep any friends for any length of time, isolated herself especially as she got older. At 21 my mom would hear her having conversations with herself from the other room. Within a few months this turned into awful suicide attempts, multiple stays in mental hospitals. Luckily enough, a few months later she seems to be on the mend with medication. She still doesn’t open up about what she was hearing or what was bothering her much though, terribly sad.
@EzEzEz369
@EzEzEz369 11 ай бұрын
Keep talking. Don't let her madness envelope you. Your doing great
@edpoell2876
@edpoell2876 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine lovingly raised a deaf person suffering from schizophrenia and described the affliction to me in the most eloquent explanation I have ever heard. His mind generates confusion with a multitude of variable thoughts all at the same time, he then has to choose which thoughts are the best to act on at every moment of his existence. A hug was determined to be the best way to bridge the channel toward communication so now when he recognizes a person he needs a hug from them first so he can concentrate on a conversation with them. A strapping example of a vital young man now, his infectious smile gives him all the hugs he could ever want and my hat is off to his mother for making him the way he is today.
@lb2683
@lb2683 3 жыл бұрын
Wow deaf and schizophrenic! That sounds like a nightmare
@LivingALifeOfAbundance
@LivingALifeOfAbundance 3 жыл бұрын
The best career advice that I learned is don’t ever attach your-self to a PERSON, a place, a company, an organization or a project. Only Attach your-self to your mission in life and your PURPOSE. That’s how you keep your power and keep your peace!
@favioladelatorre4174
@favioladelatorre4174 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jeffbriggs1987
@jeffbriggs1987 3 жыл бұрын
ya i saw that on blackpeopletwitter too. good job lol
@liamnissanS2K
@liamnissanS2K 3 жыл бұрын
Everything you need you already have
@PlTTY
@PlTTY 3 жыл бұрын
But what if your mission is life is related to a project?
@DAK272
@DAK272 3 жыл бұрын
That’s real
@Cyber_Cowboy
@Cyber_Cowboy 3 жыл бұрын
Back in my day JRE was 3 hours long.
@himintheflesh3877
@himintheflesh3877 3 жыл бұрын
Lol fax
@dillongarner1
@dillongarner1 3 жыл бұрын
This episode IS 3 hours long....
@Cyber_Cowboy
@Cyber_Cowboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@dillongarner1 it went straight over your head. If this episode for you was 3hrs long then you shouldn't be here. You should stay over in Spotify where you belong. 😉
@dillongarner1
@dillongarner1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cyber_Cowboy I must be a boomer
@apollo1573
@apollo1573 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cyber_Cowboy idk why people bitch about Spotify like it’s not free to watch on there, it’s literally just like the KZbin ones but without the comments
@spencerbrady6791
@spencerbrady6791 3 жыл бұрын
This dude nailed it. What an awesome mindset. Joe, please keep giving this guy airtime, because I think it could help a lot of people. God bless.
@FractalAgent.777
@FractalAgent.777 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a schizophrenic, his explanation is extremely good.
@UGPVlogsLA
@UGPVlogsLA 3 жыл бұрын
You are? Please do not touch Meth. My ex-boyfriend had this split personality and I saw two sides of him. He started using Meth and is now dead. He burned alive last month doing PCP, Ketamine, Heroin, Meth, and DMT. Oh and Acid. I'm still trying to figure out why his family didn't listen to me to get him help. I mean, burning alive! His family was extremely rich and so was my ex. No one deserves to die like that
@FractalAgent.777
@FractalAgent.777 3 жыл бұрын
@@UGPVlogsLA Well that sounds fucked! I hope you're okay :( I promise i will not touch meth. And also thank you for the warning!
@dionysus4942
@dionysus4942 3 жыл бұрын
When I worked at a shelter I found it difficult to tell the difference between schizophrenia and crack psychosis.
@melanieenmats
@melanieenmats 3 жыл бұрын
That would be because it is impossible. You cannot make the diagnosis while someone is under the influence. Most hard drugs can create all the symptoms, especially when combined with sleep deprivation.
@andpeoplesayineedalife6418
@andpeoplesayineedalife6418 3 жыл бұрын
Schizophrenia is basically long term psychosis
@sonishkumar7327
@sonishkumar7327 3 жыл бұрын
ngl I miss y'all comment section ❤️
@jqtxc
@jqtxc 3 жыл бұрын
Missed you too, how you been bro?
@mindlessmusician3117
@mindlessmusician3117 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously agree.. It was such a fun community
@tuxedomask4771
@tuxedomask4771 3 жыл бұрын
Ye it be lonely out here😔
@heccerda
@heccerda 3 жыл бұрын
Hes allegedly working on a comment section for Spotify
@sonishkumar7327
@sonishkumar7327 3 жыл бұрын
@@heccerda yeah I hope it happens
@ikekennedy9700
@ikekennedy9700 3 жыл бұрын
Man I had a friend go into mania and a group of friends and I had to have an intervention because his schizophrenia was getting bad. This clip is making me relive that night and how much better it could have went. Handling someone with schizophrenia can be so hard and painful.
@djeisenberger5486
@djeisenberger5486 3 жыл бұрын
Theres definitely a feeling of being disconnected from this podcast now that its on spotify.
@blhu_oce
@blhu_oce 3 жыл бұрын
GET SOMEONE ON TO TALK ABOUT DEREALIZATION. IT WOULD BE GROUND-BREAKING I PROMISE YOU.
@youngbull904
@youngbull904 3 жыл бұрын
Yup I have it.....got it from a panic attack after smoking a metric fuck ton of weed. It's absolutely awful,if I could go back in time I would have never started smoking weed💯
@manu3939393
@manu3939393 3 жыл бұрын
@@youngbull904 Sounds a bit like me but I'm doing better now
@amaurys93
@amaurys93 3 жыл бұрын
@@youngbull904 experienced something similar after a shroom trip. Had done several, but something about it the last one sent me to a place that I haven’t come back from. It’s been nearly a year, took months to feel like I wasn’t ‘on’ shrooms
@raymondgodspeed8903
@raymondgodspeed8903 3 жыл бұрын
@@amaurys93 Had the same experience some acid a couple months ago and I’m still hoping I get better. Hope you staying strong bro
@MentalGains
@MentalGains 3 жыл бұрын
@@raymondgodspeed8903 you will get better my friend. Try to get excercise and sleep. Get into a daily routine. You will be back. Trust me, I was there :)
@lreinhart2626
@lreinhart2626 3 жыл бұрын
A bad trip with LSD launched years of recurring psychosis. I lost my grip on reality. You have no idea how precious that is until you realize it could disappear. I would slip in and out at random times. I had to stop smoking weed because it would cause an immediate relapse. I don't know how to explain it other than: my stream of consciousness stays the same--I am still me and think my own thoughts--but gets trapped in my own mind unable to access the "real world". There is no sense of proprioception and my connection to reality disappears. Oddly I could hear other people fine--it was always visual. Up was down, left was down, right was forward, my internal organs are in another state and the person's face talking to me is melting through the space my skull should have been. It would happen randomly and would only really last for maybe two to six seconds. Long enough I earned a bad, but deserved, reputation amongst my coworkers for spacing out. It is so terrifying because even though each time would only last a few seconds, I would wonder if the next time would be permanent and I wouldn't be able to find a way back. I would have difficulty speaking for a while after those slips--usually up to half an hour or so. I could think what I wanted to say but there was a disconnection between my brain and my mouth. I would get lost in the complexity of human grammar and be unable to formulate a coherent thought. It was so fucking embarassing. I could hear other people speak clear as day but my ability to get my own consciousness out and express it had left the building. Maybe the best visual representation is that moment in Get Out when he goes to the sunken place, but make the sunken place a kaleidoscope of random colors and smeared images that warp and twist without any respect to a normal XYZ dimension. I was dead sober too--it would happen ten to twelve times a day at the worst. I stopped smoking weed like a week after the bad trip because if I smoked weed I would go to that bad place and stay there until I wasn't high anymore. It definitely exacerbated it. Going stone cold sober, investing into nootropics, and working on my mental health is what allowed me to get rid of it. It took me about three or four years to get completely back to my "normal". I had horrible, clinical OCD as a child as well--I washed my hands until they openly bled and had a bad counting tic--so I have a history of mental illness. I have no fucking clue why I thought my fucking brain could handle LSD. I don't know if this is how psychosis manifests in everyone, but I feel nothing but sympathy towards people who are stuck in that state their whole lives. Literally the most terrifying thing I have ever experienced. Drugs are not friendly to everyone and I think there needs to be more awareness around the mental dangers it can pose to people who are susceptible.
@blackout2430
@blackout2430 3 жыл бұрын
There is a reason psychedelics were illegal and it wasn’t all sinister. People think way too black and white in every way of that speech figure
@alanaguilar5449
@alanaguilar5449 3 жыл бұрын
Thats horrible!!! U are not compatible with drugs
@IAmJonesty
@IAmJonesty 3 жыл бұрын
I developed a schizophrenic type of psychosis that lasted for two years after taking a heroic dose of shrooms. I had a 12 hour trip which I questioned myself and everything into non-existent. I came out of it completely unconvinced that anything really existed. Everything I knew was a lie. Many many things went wrong that night and it literally cost me every relationship in my life. I failed school and didn’t go to college. It took some time to get back up from that. Life turned serious in a way that I couldn’t have predicted.
@nickdipietro7797
@nickdipietro7797 3 жыл бұрын
Scary 😧
@Dontcallmebruh
@Dontcallmebruh 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. I had a super bad trip on an edible and everything you said is so true. As I was tripping I was thinking of people who get stuck like that. Scary
@tonyp3173
@tonyp3173 3 жыл бұрын
Man my childhood best friend from age 7 to 25 got Schizophrenia. I watched it unfold and it broke my heart. He was always very introverted as a kid and we all thought as an adult he would open up. We all smoked weed, played videogames, and joked around. Then one day he flipped and said some imaginary people above his apartment were inside of his head. I tried for years to "talk" or "coach" him out of it but it didn't work. Ever since then, I stopped smoking weed and had to abandon our friendship because he is now in an institution of some sort. It's sad every time I think about it.
@djwestbrook36
@djwestbrook36 2 жыл бұрын
Check up on him and try to offer encouraging words. It’s helps people. Trust me, even going through that, those words still help.
@12890mrkickass
@12890mrkickass 2 жыл бұрын
@@djwestbrook36 i was gonna try that once, fucker threatened to kill me. Stay away from crazy.
@MRkriegs
@MRkriegs Жыл бұрын
If he had never done drugs and still got schizophrenia would u then think to start doing drugs?
@actionrick9345
@actionrick9345 Жыл бұрын
@@MRkriegs this makes no sense
@kristatatem6087
@kristatatem6087 8 ай бұрын
Broken hearted for you:( Like a death but without the closure😢
@cunn1n6ham
@cunn1n6ham 3 жыл бұрын
“Is there anything that reproduces schizophrenia?” Prolonged utilization of Social media....
@russianspy350
@russianspy350 3 жыл бұрын
Smoking crack
@joshuas725
@joshuas725 3 жыл бұрын
Meth
@sacjones9699
@sacjones9699 3 жыл бұрын
I was a meth user for yrs... I've never in my life seen, felt and feared like I had on day 3-7 without sleep. Got so bad I called the cops on myself, went to the state hospital etc etc etc... Only to find out I was right about everything I encountered let's say!!! And yes I've been clean for yrs
@futurereflections4097
@futurereflections4097 3 жыл бұрын
@@sacjones9699 Dissociatives can screw my head more than anything. I had a probably false memory on one. It’s been 2 years and I still don’t know whether or not what happened happened. And the memory spans a full week.
@god-fearingenglishman5254
@god-fearingenglishman5254 3 жыл бұрын
@@sacjones9699 wow, what did it feel like to be awake for that amount of time? Glad to hear that you're clean, it's a very hard road but keep it up.
@fortyjayseven
@fortyjayseven 3 жыл бұрын
Doing too much acid during and after high school gave me schizophrenia for a while, it was very very traumatizing and difficult to come back to reality. Please dont abuse drugs guys
@TeaPawt
@TeaPawt 3 жыл бұрын
How can you have schizophrenia temporarily
@fortyjayseven
@fortyjayseven 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeaPawt Bro all i can say is only God knows, i was deep in the whole and my mind was not working right man, i had so many insane thoughts and when i had my bad trips on acid i went crazy for a while. I freaked my gf and my parents out bro it was so bad. But i never really told anyone and somehow i pulled myself out of that whole. It wasnt easy to ignore those abnormal thought, they become like almost like ur instinct. I had to almost out grow and overstand what was happening to me and i always told myself that everything was going to be alright and that i was experiencing all of that for a reason, and after that part in my life i stopped using all drugs and now i feel extremely comfortable with myself and am able to move forward. Im far from perfect of course but im in a way better place in my life thankfully
@slimewxlf70
@slimewxlf70 3 жыл бұрын
Wish the best of luck to you man. The mind is a powerful thing.
@maximix5447
@maximix5447 3 жыл бұрын
@@TeaPawt most schizophrenic people arent schizophrenic all the time they have schizophrenic episodes its not uncommon to only have one episode in early adulthood and then never again
@fortyjayseven
@fortyjayseven 3 жыл бұрын
@@slimewxlf70 Thank you man i appreciate that so much. I hope the same for you and for anyone who is reading this
@ResortDog
@ResortDog 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly & closing mental hospitals made the homeless crisis
@vitaly6312
@vitaly6312 3 жыл бұрын
I think we need to be specific that they weren’t mental health hospitals( they were mental institutions. Basically places we would mostly-permanently send people with mental health conditions and give them pills until they died. That system needed to go. But! It should’ve been replaced by actual mental health services.
@HunnyBunz--
@HunnyBunz-- 3 жыл бұрын
started with Reagan...
@MrJJacks7
@MrJJacks7 3 жыл бұрын
@@vitaly6312 What would actual mental health services do differently? A lot of the homeless people around me have severe mental health problems and will sometimes violently refuse help. Without mental institutions monitoring them to make sure they take medication, I doubt they would take it
@hiraeth195
@hiraeth195 3 жыл бұрын
@@vitaly6312 well there’s no other solution these people have to be isolated and put into these institutions. We shouldn’t have to have homeless people ruin our cities because they are mostly unfortunately mentally ill.
@vaughnordakowski8774
@vaughnordakowski8774 3 жыл бұрын
@@vitaly6312 it can be easily argued that their doped up lives in the institutions were at a much higher standard of living than being on the streets
@JR-yr8xm
@JR-yr8xm 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to develop schizophrenia purposely might be very risky for the guy. I've had voices in my head for about two years. When it first started, these auditory hallucinations were on another level. Made me realize how powerful the brain really is.
@Leppalimes
@Leppalimes Жыл бұрын
I don't think he was trying to induce schizophrenia, just a schizophrenia-like experience temporarily. It's not known how well high amphetamine doses mimic schizophrenia, but use of these drugs to induce psychosis is a big part in why schizophrenia medication was developed specifically to block dopamine - they created something close enough for lack of a better term to the disorder, at least enough to create treatments that work quite well.
@superblackandwhites2011
@superblackandwhites2011 2 жыл бұрын
This has really helped joe and co I've watched 100s of videos about the illness and this one has really got through thanks
@jacks1bonnielass
@jacks1bonnielass 3 жыл бұрын
I would def say that yes it is linked. A half-sibling of mine was subjected to drug use when they were 13yrs old from their bio dad. Terrible things happened to them within just a short amount of time visiting the father, horrific things I won’t speak of. Said sibling became an addict & struggled with addiction til they were nearly 35yrs old. During that huge time period, they had been diagnosed with bipolar, which we thought was a misdiagnosis since they would hallucinate for days at a time. They had an episode about a year and a half ago, but they’ve been clean for years & was finally diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. Year & years of being in mental institutions & in & out of jail never helped them of course, but they’re finally doing awesome AS LONG AS they get REST! Sleep deprivation is what caused the last episode. People are so misunderstood nowadays. Don’t judge them. Try to help them if you can.
@dajanterzic
@dajanterzic 3 жыл бұрын
Meth and no sleep definitely feels like it. (Sober 10 years)
@ChildofYAH_
@ChildofYAH_ 3 жыл бұрын
My best friend from 4th grade went schizophrenic off meth and no sleep. His brain ended up not being able to tell whether he was sleeping or awake.(auditory and visual do I believe he had a pre disposition but i also remember a Dr saying it was drug induced Schizophrenia from NO Sleep
@geoffnelson64
@geoffnelson64 3 жыл бұрын
There's people in this state of mind all over my town. Sad. Meth ruins lives. And is the closest thing to evil I've ever encountered
@johnboyr261
@johnboyr261 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your sobriety! Peace and blessings
@AliciaM5555
@AliciaM5555 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! Congrats 👊
@mememo3764
@mememo3764 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats
@PrimoPapi
@PrimoPapi 3 жыл бұрын
My brother has schizophrenia and it’s the worst experience ever. I think my brother got it due to drug abuse in his life. The way it started for him was one day he was doing his normal routine of smoking dabs of weed and the episodes started happening. He never told us but I diagnose him by one night he came inside my room yelling at me saying my neighbors and I are planning to kill him. I tried pleading with him that no one wants to kill him and he wasn’t believing me so he attacked me. That’s the moment I found out he had a serious problem. Had to take him to the psych ward at the hospital and it was very hard to convince him to go. It took me calling the police one day and having a officer talk to him about him being sick and needs to get treated. Few month later my brother is still messed up a bit but looks like the doctor found a medicine that is giving some positive results so that’s good. My brother isn’t the same guy he used to be and Im not sure if he will ever go back to his old self. This is a very horrible experience to have with a love one especially someone living with you. Please give them a lot of support and be patient. This illness takes a lot of time to help recover a little bit. That’s my story
@PrimoPapi
@PrimoPapi 3 жыл бұрын
@ProfX thank you for that comment bro 💯 you are a very nice person praying for many blessings for you
@PierreHefner
@PierreHefner Жыл бұрын
Wow this hit deep man… God bless you and your loved ones I know he will get better. Just hope and show love to him he will get through.
@Kieran-jq5kk
@Kieran-jq5kk Жыл бұрын
How is he man? Had a similar situation with a sister a couple of months back, lots of suicide attempts, really traumatic. Seems better now but still very quiet and reserved.
@PrimoPapi
@PrimoPapi Жыл бұрын
@@PierreHefner appreciate you brother he is doing a lot better now. Has his good and bad days but lately more good 🙏🏼 praying it stays like that
@PierreHefner
@PierreHefner Жыл бұрын
@@PrimoPapi I’m very glad he is better, I got drug induced psychosis and had schizophrenaforum which is the early stages of schizophrenia because of different substance abuse all at once. And you almost described my story with his. I didn’t think people were gonna kill me I just thought people were against me In the worst way possible way, ended up attacking my step dad, and my best friend… took me like 2-3 weeks to get off all delusions and hallucinations but I had to quit all drugs cold turkey. Felt like absolute hell and it was destroying me and my family tbh but I’m very glad your brother is doing better I know he’s gonna keep getting better and I myself have never felt better before in my life 😊❤️!!
@feezanbrittain2680
@feezanbrittain2680 3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting what they said about schizophrenia I have always had a problem with authority and it eventually led to drug addiction because as a kid I felt my voice wasn’t heard and it drove me crazy. I had depression since I was like 10 and very serious anger issues which I’ve now controlled having learnt a lot of stuff about psychology and cannabis actually helped me calm down and be more sort of flexible and working out gave me the confidence to stand on my own and become more social. So I mean I think adictive personality is a trait of many mental health sufferers and doesn’t necessarily correlate with drug use but can lead to it. It’s like seeking escape from your own mind
@tienming6174
@tienming6174 3 жыл бұрын
From descriptions of schizophrenia it sounds like to me people are dreaming while awake. They dont typically sleep much. But the body still attempts rem sleep to rest the mind causing a mix of reality and dreams. Almost a biological augmented reality
@detailin_dave926
@detailin_dave926 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that’s what I was thinking 🤔, but couldn’t articulate it. Good break down...
@xpeacemaster
@xpeacemaster 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but its directly related to too much dopamine
@Thomas...191
@Thomas...191 3 жыл бұрын
That's how I'd describe psychosis.. to the extent which it's hard to differentiate waking life from dream life. And the mind relies on funny dream logic instead of... well logic.
@Zavidar2
@Zavidar2 3 жыл бұрын
And weed prevents the brain from entering REM
@th2065
@th2065 3 жыл бұрын
It's moreso an issue concerning the human capacity for language. Schizophrenics tend to hear voices where there are none
@coreybrown964
@coreybrown964 3 жыл бұрын
We definetly need Joe back on KZbin. I used to watch every full episode . I dont use spotify so now i just dont watch JRE. sad
@bogdy72000
@bogdy72000 3 жыл бұрын
a schoolbook example of selling out
@alanhernandez6354
@alanhernandez6354 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@82shamroc
@82shamroc 3 жыл бұрын
@@dayoonman3264 cool story bro. You should write a book.
@82shamroc
@82shamroc 3 жыл бұрын
@@dayoonman3264 seems like I hurt your feelings. There there, everything gone be alright.
@DaboooogA
@DaboooogA 3 жыл бұрын
Cannabis use has been strongly correlated with schizophrenia, psychosis and a number of other mental health issues.
@nando3930
@nando3930 3 жыл бұрын
Psychosis for sure as somebody whose smoked, could be the type of weed ur smoking or if its strong thc weed but for sure
@Omoiyari23
@Omoiyari23 5 ай бұрын
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
@queenbmary1
@queenbmary1 2 жыл бұрын
Great topic! My has been diagnosed with Schizophrenia. Most people have no idea that someone who has schizophrenia is actually more afraid of getting hurt than hurting someone else.
@Vainashell
@Vainashell 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fanatical amount of mistrust in self & others. “No child is going to develop a sense of 100% trust or 100%doubt,” “mistrustful” kids “become fearful, confused and anxious, all of which make it difficult to form healthy relationships. This in turn can lead to poor social support, isolation and loneliness.” - My mom had a rough start. ♥️
@Shatamx
@Shatamx 3 жыл бұрын
Most kids in America have trust issues because the divorce rate is so high. From my personal experience I also have trust issues. My parents divorced when I was in the third grade. Shattered my world and I still find a piece here and there.
@benjohnson2150
@benjohnson2150 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shatamx Try going through it 3 times 😆. Workin on myself at the moment...
@CarringDevil
@CarringDevil 3 жыл бұрын
@sovain... Thanx for sharing I never got around what it is or could be to people
@FuckGoogle2
@FuckGoogle2 3 жыл бұрын
I trust people, that's no guarantee for healthy relationships.
@christianlucas91
@christianlucas91 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shatamx big words my man. All the best
@jopo7996
@jopo7996 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Hart is brilliant, in a .75 playback speed kind of way.
@nokki25
@nokki25 3 жыл бұрын
JRE is like an Epic Games Store exclusive now.
@nathanchianderson
@nathanchianderson 3 жыл бұрын
But epic games is a shit platform, like KZbin. Your analogy is backwards as Spotify is more mature as a platform. KZbin is just big with momentum. The design is kinda shit, and the platform will soon evolve or be largely replaced
@TheChuktaylor3
@TheChuktaylor3 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanchianderson you think Spotify is more mature than googles video sharing giant?
@nathanchianderson
@nathanchianderson 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheChuktaylor3 KZbin has great algorithms, sure, but that’s it’s only advantage and they spam you with ads. It’s a personal opinion, but I believe KZbin will be old hat before long. It’s not a great platform.
@TheChuktaylor3
@TheChuktaylor3 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanchianderson fair enough. I humbly disagree.
@RoryEastwayMMA
@RoryEastwayMMA 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanchianderson KZbin isnt going anywhere mate 😂
@j1mm3rzzz
@j1mm3rzzz 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds a little but similar to how I have felt when I have had too much THC. I feel paranoid and afraid and feel like I am somehow misinterpreting "reality". It is difficult for me to explain. At some level I still feel in touch with "reality" and can "fake" that I am okay, but at the same time my mind is churning away at some strange narrative where I misinterpret how people feel about me, and they are angry with me or out to get me.
@k39564
@k39564 Жыл бұрын
The best part is when you surrender to your high , at that point you don’t care what your churning mind is saying.
@mishi583
@mishi583 3 жыл бұрын
I learned this in a psychology class: Drugs cannot directly cause schizophrenia. Many people believe that schizophrenia is genetically inherrited. If, for example, one of your parents has schizophrenia the likelihood of you having schizophrenia is higher than if one of your distant cousins has this illness. It is more or less the potential to suffer this illness that is inherrited. This potential can be triggered by drugs.
@saturnslightcollective
@saturnslightcollective 3 жыл бұрын
If one of your parents is a Shaman, the chances of you being a Shaman are greater than if it were your cousin that were a Shaman. See the Connection between schizophrenia and Shamanism.
@chopper2024
@chopper2024 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for shedding light on a subject that lives in the dark. I’m very appreciative of you’re points of view. Thank you from the bottom of my ❤️. Hope and love are powerful in defeating mental illness.
@Hypno_BPM
@Hypno_BPM 3 жыл бұрын
i loved that the camera cut to Joe’s face when he mentioned Ketamine 😂😂
@KrisKitchen
@KrisKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
“The psychotic drowns in the same waters in which the mystic swims with delight.”
@nunu4evaaa
@nunu4evaaa 2 жыл бұрын
The psychedelic explorer swims in the same water as the schizophrenic- Terrence Mckenna
@flowerpower9401
@flowerpower9401 3 жыл бұрын
My brother became a paranoid schizophrenic at 26-27 after years of drug abuse since he was a teenager.
@kerriemartin882
@kerriemartin882 3 жыл бұрын
Sams here!!!!
@kerriemartin882
@kerriemartin882 3 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@thinginground5179
@thinginground5179 3 жыл бұрын
@SolarisLunaran You put me off a bit now
@sheedy9
@sheedy9 3 жыл бұрын
Pri-schizophrenia patients are prone to drug abuse.
@joelgunner634
@joelgunner634 3 жыл бұрын
SolarisLunaran that as a result of drug induced psychosis bro?
@princex6091
@princex6091 3 жыл бұрын
I plan on finding/creating a cure for Schizophrenia i believe anything’s possible & I will succeed
@Lvgan
@Lvgan 3 жыл бұрын
Just get sleep
@ryanboshell6124
@ryanboshell6124 3 жыл бұрын
No chance.
@whitstone8784
@whitstone8784 3 жыл бұрын
Yep if you really want to you sure can
@nearlyhomeless653
@nearlyhomeless653 3 жыл бұрын
It's a brain issue only cure is rewiring which musk is working on
@menas6009
@menas6009 3 жыл бұрын
Are you being sarcastic?
@kieranhickey6272
@kieranhickey6272 3 жыл бұрын
As a Schizophrenic, I could answer these so well. On the part about your social models. It's more like autism but like with autism you can teach yourself remodel in a way. I've done tons of drugs and they're similar so basically, your imagination is your worst enemy and depending on your mindset or how strongly willed you are you can be like anyone else just like say a shroom trip. Its basically the same its just worse because generally if you're diagnosed you're gonna have anxiety, depression, and other problems so its gonna make you have a "bad" trip but if you're happy and chilling like i am almost always there's no difference. Life's the same.
@IceKoldKilla
@IceKoldKilla 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is some people I've heard speak on it say they didn't know they were likely to be schizophrenic and wish they would've never smoked weed as it changed their lives forever. So for them, even if they were gonna have to deal with it, it would've been better to avoid it and hopefully they would've lived a happier life for a bit longer. For them it was all of a sudden. They didn't expect that. So they wish they knew.
@Manbear7678
@Manbear7678 3 жыл бұрын
You mean meth? Weed doesn't cause that, but I've worked in the psych wing long enough to KNOW there is a direct correlation between meth use and schizophrenia. Weed should calm down anxieties, not increase them. A variable never considered in studies is a person's tolerance level, a person with no tolerance to a medication (or THC) is going to be radically different for a first-timer vs a daily smoker.
@mayanboricua
@mayanboricua Жыл бұрын
@@Manbear7678 It's normal for non habitual cannabis users to feel anxiety when they get high. It goes away with repeated exposure, or abstinence. It certainly never reaches schizophrenia levels, and I highly doubt that it will activate dormant schizophrenia either. Weed just doesn't hit the right circuits. METH, on the other hand....
@matthewross2236
@matthewross2236 3 жыл бұрын
Man I really miss watching the full episodes
@julzflies8077
@julzflies8077 3 жыл бұрын
So do I. I loved the video part of it:(
@marktorres8766
@marktorres8766 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s kinda annoying
@MrBertman83
@MrBertman83 3 жыл бұрын
They've got the video on Spotify
@thirdeye8628
@thirdeye8628 3 жыл бұрын
@@elgochez1518 fuck spotify
@elgochez1518
@elgochez1518 3 жыл бұрын
@@thirdeye8628 oh well lol
@420fittness
@420fittness 3 жыл бұрын
Im never ever taking fucking smack to calm schizophrenia!! Madness!!
@sergedenovo2389
@sergedenovo2389 3 жыл бұрын
As you SHOULDNT. This dude was talking nonsense.
@chso8809
@chso8809 3 жыл бұрын
This is an unethical video and should be taken down lol why don’t they get a psychiatrist or actual MD to talk about schizophrenia ?
@melodic777
@melodic777 3 жыл бұрын
@@chso8809 agree. This is where the prefix “doctor” should be distinguished from medical doctor. He can’t even pronounce homeostasis and yet he’s telling us that doing pure cocaine and heroin isn’t bad for us because he is a phd in the theoretical of pharmacology. Sorry, but that is unethical.
@jmrson6655
@jmrson6655 3 жыл бұрын
@@melodic777 it's all about moderation.
@ata5855
@ata5855 3 жыл бұрын
I could see it MAYBE in a hyper-controlled environment, administered by health care professionals. Similar to early LSD research with mental patients and alcoholics.
@lewiswilliam5480
@lewiswilliam5480 3 жыл бұрын
It's always nice to hear the truth that so often goes unspoken. As always it's been a pleasure listening Dr. Hart
@anthonygerber8261
@anthonygerber8261 3 жыл бұрын
Most addicts have other issues going on however I think this guy is down playing how addictive opiates are. As someone who got injured and dependent on painkillers, trust me when I say it happens quickly. One minute you're in control and then the next, you're a slave to opiates!
@jessicacollins4042
@jessicacollins4042 3 жыл бұрын
It's so true.
@melodic777
@melodic777 3 жыл бұрын
It makes me question his credibility as it appears his bias is greater than factual reality. He can’t even pronounce homeostasis and he’s a doctor?
@roberto125919
@roberto125919 3 жыл бұрын
You had underlying issues that drove the addiction. Chronic pain emotional pain suffering etc. Normal healthy people don't just become addicts it's the mentally weak. Hard to admit but true. It's how your brain is wired. Simple as that.
@jessicacollins4042
@jessicacollins4042 3 жыл бұрын
@@roberto125919 he said he had chronic pain in his comment.
@JohnDoe-in3ep
@JohnDoe-in3ep 3 жыл бұрын
Most people who takes opioids don't get addicted.
@jake8200
@jake8200 3 жыл бұрын
I once mixed Ketamine and MDMA many years ago and it felt incredibly similar to many of the symptoms associated with schizophrenia. My thoughts were incredibly disjointed and muddled.
@SharpusAurelius
@SharpusAurelius 3 жыл бұрын
As an intermittent user, I can say it definitely does. My curtains agree with me.
@SGoDEnT1hunna
@SGoDEnT1hunna 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo this the one 🎯
@kalechapo8291
@kalechapo8291 3 жыл бұрын
Intermittent user of what lol?
@noahdaly8484
@noahdaly8484 3 жыл бұрын
@@kalechapo8291 did you watch the video?
@kalechapo8291
@kalechapo8291 3 жыл бұрын
@@noahdaly8484 yes sir
@kalechapo8291
@kalechapo8291 3 жыл бұрын
@@noahdaly8484 I was attempting to test whether you were close to schizo and the fact that you even answered instead of assuming I was someone out to get you and disconnecting from the interaction tells me you’re fine
@yendyvilma2681
@yendyvilma2681 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when that K-2 spice shit first came out. They said you could smoke it and still pass a drug test. I was in between jobs and had an interview coming up. I wanted to get high so I was like this is so perfect. I smoked that shit and spent at least 30 minutes walking in a circle saying "I need to go to the hospital" "I'm going to die". I have never experienced that level of paranoia in my whole life and I've done my share of drugs. Just thought I would share that.
@epigenetics9798
@epigenetics9798 3 жыл бұрын
Was about to say I miss watching full episodes on yt but then i got hit by the ads so back to spotify I go
@justine2589
@justine2589 3 жыл бұрын
As a drug researcher, the public should understand how difficult it is to be open about certain things that may be against to law. And would hope that experiences shared in confidence remain confidential for the protection of these scientists' interests and integrity -- as it is of utmost importance that we remain as unbiased as possible.
@veitchy_2213
@veitchy_2213 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine describes their episodes of psychosis as being like a really bad acid trip. Also in my experience on LSD, I’ve had a fair few moments of thinking the world was against me and feeling abject terror and isolation
@georgekuh4491
@georgekuh4491 2 жыл бұрын
Same experience , mine was on shrooms
@dooflydetailguuy4349
@dooflydetailguuy4349 Жыл бұрын
Man that would suck to navigate everyday. I feel for them
@mhite3582
@mhite3582 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this man thinks. So impressed with how he conveys his thinking to us. These types of researchers deserve as much funding as is available.
@fenixrising1972
@fenixrising1972 3 жыл бұрын
I have a masters in psychology and I've done eight months of doctoral work so far. Signs of schizophrenia often begin in childhood. I have a relative who is schizoaffective and I remember that he had personality and behavioral issues which were apparent by the time he went to kindergarten. His two siblings functioned normally. Drugs have nothing to do with schizophrenia. They can have a marginal affect on already existing schizophrenic traits, but they cannot cause it.
@johnrizzo4383
@johnrizzo4383 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard any voices until LSD read my comment maybe..
@adventurousloner
@adventurousloner Жыл бұрын
Agreed, mostly.
@stubstunner
@stubstunner 3 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating.
@Spencerlayne
@Spencerlayne 3 жыл бұрын
The less sleep I have the more delusional I become.
@mattjohnson3299
@mattjohnson3299 3 жыл бұрын
I lost my job after not being able to sleep for a week (im sure they didnt believe me) but it was the worst week of my life...nothing satisfied. I wasnt even alive...the dogs at sunrise. My uncle was schizophrenic.
@mattjohnson3299
@mattjohnson3299 3 жыл бұрын
I went into work after the first night Figuring id crash the next night but nope...locked up abroad music...reading...idk it sucked lol i litterally maybe got 2 hours in a week after a friend gave me some gabapentin. This was all cuz i STOPPED doing drugs and just stress in general i beleive. Didnt know i was in so deep but yeah i guess so lol
@RolandSpecialSauce
@RolandSpecialSauce 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattjohnson3299 the dogs at sunrise?
@Yellow.1844
@Yellow.1844 3 жыл бұрын
@@RolandSpecialSauce dont ask too many questions lol
@michael.g5055
@michael.g5055 3 жыл бұрын
Look at people who do meth i know people whos stayed up weeks at a time they are delusional seeing shit hearing stuff loco
@Rootwally
@Rootwally 3 жыл бұрын
One of my friends uncles was acid tripping in the 80s/90s and he hasn’t been right since. He has all the symptoms of schizophrenia but hasn’t been professionally diagnosed
@apxprdtr_mge
@apxprdtr_mge 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a respected researcher, as well as intelligent and well read, and you take a boatload of drugs to see what schizophrenia feels like and you actually become schizophrenic LOL.
@vipr1142
@vipr1142 3 жыл бұрын
Most of it is propaganda. Cannabis, psychadelics etc doesnt make you a schizophrenic And Joe Rogan dont know the difference between paranoid schizophrenic and normal schizophrenic
@TAGsRC
@TAGsRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@vipr1142 yes. But complete opposite of what you’re saying. Edit: touché, you have to have a belief system beforehand that opens you up to it
@seanj6333
@seanj6333 3 жыл бұрын
@@vipr1142 They can absolutely trigger dormant schizophrenia in predisposed individuals
@vipr1142
@vipr1142 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanj6333 "dormant schizophrenia" lol
@seanj6333
@seanj6333 3 жыл бұрын
@@vipr1142 Yes, meaning if you have a genetic predisposition to schizo, the condition can be triggered or exacerbated by psychedelics.
@joshuabolin4440
@joshuabolin4440 3 жыл бұрын
I know from experience that prolonged meth use coupled with sleep deprivation can cause temporary schizophrenia.
@user-wr9ej6xe4j
@user-wr9ej6xe4j 3 жыл бұрын
My ex is bipolar and schizophrenic. It seemed weed kept her calm, but alcohol ALWAYS sent her into a raging manic episode. I tried to coach her to please have only a little, but the screws loose in her brain made her want to get so annihilated to disconnect from the schizophrenic thoughts she was constantly burying,, that when she drank too much (always against my advice) she would start screaming crazy shit for HOURS. Total nightmare. Even after breakup cops and jail are always in her life. Very sad for these people
@brandonbays1225
@brandonbays1225 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been formally diagnosed with schizophrenia but I’ve done a self analysis on myself and not only that, but my mother has previously been diagnosed with schizophrenia. I’ve spent long periods of time isolated, thinking, researching and exploring myself and my psyche and in my opinion, I’ve discovered a lot about myself and the mental disorder that we call schizophrenia. I would love to be a part of a study but haven’t ever really looked into it. I believe my thoughts could possibly have a positive impact on how we look at and understand this mental disorder.
@Noerhart
@Noerhart 3 жыл бұрын
cant wait to you get back with full episodes on youtube
@joeslifeproductions
@joeslifeproductions 3 жыл бұрын
im really glad your on youtube joe. cause i got schizophrenia and I'm afraid of the other websites
@Brand00d
@Brand00d 3 жыл бұрын
Like Spotify?
@joeslifeproductions
@joeslifeproductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brand00dyes i dont use it
@zachiavelli_
@zachiavelli_ 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Carl Hart is a JRE OG. Seeing the thumbnail made me happy.
@MrShaclakclak
@MrShaclakclak 3 жыл бұрын
great talk guys, i have a friend that this is happening to, i dont want to alienate them everytime i get a random out of context text message or phone call. i want to give nothing but love and understanding.
@jarracookin4124
@jarracookin4124 3 жыл бұрын
I really like Dr Carl his eps are always interesting. Shame i don't have spotify
@Bigf00t100
@Bigf00t100 3 жыл бұрын
I went on a 1 month bender abusing Vicodin after injuring my lower back doing a 400+LB squat. It was amazing being sedated and pain free but it’s very easy to chase that feeling when you have nothing better to do. Once I got better I stopped taking them cold turkey and am good but I can def see how people get hooked like a mother
@pjip
@pjip 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Carl Hart is a great man, thx for having him on Joe
@newagecinematics
@newagecinematics 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! i just heard Karl hart on NPR radio today! pretty awesome knowing his book is being heard
@Matheus-mr4tl
@Matheus-mr4tl 2 жыл бұрын
I have paranoid schizophrenia, I used to use drugs frequently, even more Marijuana. When I used Marijuana was cool but always had a paranoia running in background. Today I can't use Marijuana, it makes me feel like I have a demon on my mind. Actualy I can't use any drugs, except ecstasy and alcohol. I was a happy boy, intelligent, contemplative. Today im the opposite, my life is very hard, I dont trust in anybody, not even in my closest friends and family. I hope some day it will end. Sorry for the english
@MrMason30127
@MrMason30127 3 жыл бұрын
Yes there is as someone who smoked weed for about 13 years every single day I could tell I was getting more and more paranoid thought I was hearing stuff I wasn’t worrying about things that made no sense enough drug use for a long enough time can basically make you crazy
@thunderchundering
@thunderchundering 3 жыл бұрын
Have you stopped consuming cannabis and has that fixed your paranoia? Would be valid information for those in the same position as you. Best wishes!
@MrMason30127
@MrMason30127 3 жыл бұрын
@@thunderchundering No not completely even when quitting
@timr5185
@timr5185 3 жыл бұрын
@@thunderchundering I had the same thing and when I stopped I stopped having anxiety and panic attacks as well as other mental issues
@thunderchundering
@thunderchundering 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMason30127 Have you considered seeing a specialist?
@thunderchundering
@thunderchundering 3 жыл бұрын
@@timr5185 Glad to hear man! Have you used canabis since or are you worried it will bring the anxiety back?
@Rumination.
@Rumination. 3 жыл бұрын
Constant ingestion of high amounts of thc could possibly induce schizo like mind states. I had a period of psychosis from smoking lots of weed for a few years and towards the end developed some anxiety. We're growing weed to produce too much thc and not enough cbd, and that's a dangerous game that seems harmless on the surface
@Rumination.
@Rumination. 3 жыл бұрын
@Jake it's not the fault of the drug, but weed naturally grows with a balanced thc to cbd ratio. Since we can tweak the environment that it grows in now to such a high degree, we can alter the levels of thc in the plant UNNATURALLY. There's a reason weed grows naturally a certain way, but man decided to amplify the part of cannabis that's responsible for euphoria and sedation. So much so that now people extract the thc from weed and ingest it at levels around 95% in potency. You can see where this is headed, and it's becoming a real problem
@Rumination.
@Rumination. 3 жыл бұрын
@Jake You're right, it is that way to repel insects. It just so happens that it also causes euphoria and sedation when smoked or eaten after heated and bonded with a fat or oil. It's all natural functions. What isn't natural is controlling the light conditions, temperature, humidity, airflow, and the nutrients all to an exact degree in order to reap the most thc possible in the plant. Especially when to be used recreationally. There's not reason to have that much thc except to get completely stoned. It doesn't increase medicinal properties. Bro my point is that weed is fine the way it is, and the only reason people (hippies is a good way to put it) grow it in a way to produce as much thc as possible is to be stoned off their ass and nothing more, and that it can do more harm than good.
@Rumination.
@Rumination. 3 жыл бұрын
@Jake Bro I'm not trying to say that more cbd will magically make it all okay, I'm saying that the high amounts of thc present in weed today is harmful mentally. Weed has over 100 cannabinoids, but thc is the point of interest because it gets you high. So people thought that more of that is good. So good quality weed is just a secondary result to growing it in a controlled environment, the primary goal being to get as much thc as possible out of it. Yes you smoke less but for how long? Tolerance builds quickly and so people resort to concentrates which are arguably less harmful to your lungs, but the amounts of thc you ingest are far from normal. You can grow good quality weed without the crazy amounts of thc.
@Rumination.
@Rumination. 3 жыл бұрын
@Jake My argument is that weak bud is better because you don't ingest as much thc. You think people don't still smoke countless blunts or joints? You can keep making weed stronger, most people will still chain smoke 3 gram blunts, that doesn't matter. What does matter is the amount of thc going into your brain bro. If you reset your tolerance, a low thc weed will actually get you high, but since everyone is dependent on strong weed now, people need 30% thc strains because their tolerance won't let them feel anything more than a buzz. Simply put, strong (different from good quality) weed is bad for you mentally in the long run.
@ChrisHaefner
@ChrisHaefner 3 жыл бұрын
So happy you got Dr Hart on JRE. I feel like all drug policy should have him consulted before ot become law. I had him as a professor at the University of Wyoming for a class. He would fly back and forth weekly because he had a sentimental spot in his heart for UW. He has a tremendous amount pf chemistry and physiologic knowledge on drugs. Like he said drugs are only a chemical not good or evil
@Stilez
@Stilez 3 жыл бұрын
5 guys who all hung out in high school from my neighborhood, and always did drugs together...all became schizophrenic. Coincidence!?!? 🤷‍♂️
@SKY_FATH3R
@SKY_FATH3R 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who wants the answer to this question without watching a 10 minute video, the answer is: YES.
@iamripoff
@iamripoff 3 жыл бұрын
@Mark Rodriguez Cannabis, particularly.
@dillondebeer6690
@dillondebeer6690 3 жыл бұрын
@Mark Rodriguez what the doctor explained is 100 percent true about amphetamines and lack of sleep
@abyss1997
@abyss1997 3 жыл бұрын
@Mark Rodriguezhigh dosr psychedelic, weed, speed and meth use with sleep deprivation
@beaus123
@beaus123 3 жыл бұрын
@@dillondebeer6690 amphetamines are dopamine agonists (meaning they mimic dopamine in the brain) and one early model of schizophrenia is dopamine hyperfunction (too much dopamine acting). So by doing amphetamines, you're essentially overloading your brain with dopamine which leads to delusions, hallucinations & psychosis.
@dillondebeer6690
@dillondebeer6690 3 жыл бұрын
@@beaus123 you basically just said what I said, but with more fluff
@joshcontreras750
@joshcontreras750 3 жыл бұрын
I’m schizophrenic and absolutely it’s a lonely experience of life and I have to constantly tell myself that my friends and family aren’t trying to kill me/send me to jail and I smoke weed also which helps me cope with everything as long as i use my CBD with THC
@wuis9368
@wuis9368 3 жыл бұрын
My mother has schizophrenia from what we believe to be drug use . I wish I had answers for such a complicated illness . The in-denial behavior is almost impossible for self help . Petitioning your own mother is a mountain of pressure that feels heavy on your soul.
@jorgezepeda2461
@jorgezepeda2461 3 жыл бұрын
What a great episode. Such a shame that it was done after the move so now this might not get the number of viewers this deserves.
@tammyrobinson1613
@tammyrobinson1613 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Karl Hart is so good! Wow, I love his perspective.
@purelokiii7716
@purelokiii7716 3 жыл бұрын
I've Experienced Phycosis off LSd and A bad come down off of MD when I could sleep for around a week it's horrible the world the lies your mind can create
@CarringDevil
@CarringDevil 3 жыл бұрын
May be or maybe you saw a glimpse of what the world really is
@purelokiii7716
@purelokiii7716 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarringDevil thats like taking a pill and it making you confident then going round saying I'm a confident person - no the drug tricked your brain your fucking not
@ninopanino10
@ninopanino10 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I need to watch these clips since I can’t watch the Spotify videos on my tv.... miss the old format badly.
@tamimtaj5006
@tamimtaj5006 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for your service, thank you for the knowledge
@Grockrobin
@Grockrobin 3 жыл бұрын
Drug induced psychosis is common and misdiagnosis of schizophrenia often occurs. Take away the drugs and the psychosis often goes with them. However, some people can develop schizophrenia after using Cannabis sometimes only once.
@RandomGuy-qn2ub
@RandomGuy-qn2ub 3 жыл бұрын
Usually the weak minded little victims that get “hurt” from experience keep the bullshit
@BadBoysHub
@BadBoysHub 3 жыл бұрын
@@RandomGuy-qn2ub u sound intelligent lol
@walkingdead171
@walkingdead171 3 жыл бұрын
@@BadBoysHub it’s called being real
@namelesswarrior4760
@namelesswarrior4760 3 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the individual's state of health both physically and mentally prior to drug use. If the person is pre-disposed to mental issues then I think the drug use will further exasperate the problems and no doubts that drug use will have negative affects even on a physically healthy and mentally sound person over long periods of time! The same goes for alcohol, cigarrettes, prescription drugs etc etc
@Nick-xf5uz
@Nick-xf5uz 3 жыл бұрын
How everyone been ? Glad they still post new clips
@proberush
@proberush Жыл бұрын
Once befriended a very kind and strong homeless man while working graveyard shifts. He was unfortunately suffering great trauma and severe schizophrenia, often telling strange stories of violence and drug busts. However, he also had a very special way of looking at the world, that there was 'dust' in the air that signaled the atmosphere of an area. He read the dust and knew what state our store was in at any moment, and his observations always proved correct. He would advise me in sagely ways as I deciphered his language. Often times I found that MY model was wrong, and that he had figured it out in a much more efficient way. There were lines in the circuits leading up to our large neon signs that only he could see. He knew.
@FupaDoncic
@FupaDoncic 3 жыл бұрын
Sometime I listen on Spotify, think of something clever and get sad cause I can’t comment
@howardhavardramberg7160
@howardhavardramberg7160 3 жыл бұрын
I really miss JRE pre-Spotify, seeing the guests and how they're explaining things and Joe's reactions. Feels so strange still just to have these bites instead :(
@ethantodd1949
@ethantodd1949 3 жыл бұрын
Get Spotify lol
@howardhavardramberg7160
@howardhavardramberg7160 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethantodd1949 Yeah it’s not the same
@ethantodd1949
@ethantodd1949 3 жыл бұрын
@@howardhavardramberg7160 visual learner I see..interesting
@boreduser12
@boreduser12 3 жыл бұрын
There is video on spotify.
@AliciaM5555
@AliciaM5555 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hate the change too.
@tylerwarren33
@tylerwarren33 3 жыл бұрын
Take a second to scroll through past videos, specifically looking at viewer numbers. Pretty wild what the new year, and the Spotify transition has done to the channel.
@koffeewithkuda6177
@koffeewithkuda6177 3 жыл бұрын
Sitting down with people who have lived experience as been a life changing for us on our channel. Addiction is tough, but I believe we need to do better as a community and ensure that we defeat stigma, as well as support people so that less and less people turn to addiction.
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