Is there space for LGBTQ+ in Uganda? | ON THE SPOT

The Ugandan parliament has recently passed one of the world's most severe anti-homosexuality laws, which is now waiting for presidential assent. The new law criminalizes the LGBTIQ community and has sparked protests from activists who argue that it deprives them of their fundamental right to life and criminalizes their ability to express love. In contrast, supporters of the law believe it will restore moral control over Ugandan communities and eliminate "foreign" ideas. On The Spot, we discussed the pros and cons of the Anti-Homosexuality Bill with Andrew Mwenda, a veteran journalist who challenged a previous anti-gay bill in 2014, and Medard Lubega Sseggona, a lawyer and legislator for Busiro South.
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[@marysemirimu170]

It is better to stand alone when you choose the right way than stand with the majority who are wrong. Be firm 🇺🇬

[@loveisloveislove-ep1df]

It takes a lot of courage to be who you are, especially for the LGBT.

[@tumwinefrancis5172]

Ssegona thanks for the general defence of our country values

[@astonenkwenge786]

Whatever Uganda losses from the outside world does not matter to us...this homosexual bill should be signed

[@francandsex8793]

Are u ready for the consequences as a nation???

[@GreenSabre187]

@@francandsex8793 they are not, safe your breath mate and enjoy the rest of your live, humanity is lost. And thanks for being a proper human being, someday we both will die for that, cause that's the only thing humans care for, killing.

[@anthonysavio3875]

1 dollar will cost ugx 20000 sooner or later.

[@MrKasiko2]

Tell tht to the Zimbabwean. I meet a lot of them and their view of Mugabe is not great

[@sarahjoysavtryphine256]

Singa bakunsiyagira novunda enwyo nowuya🙄

[@okellonathan7729]

Hon.Segona you are class apart. Infact I like the way you are knowledgeable

[@steveyoung6317]

Uganda Forever….🙏🏾

[@kevinboone2178]

What does that slogan mean, Dr. Young?

[@martinagaba1775]

Thank YOU so much Hon. Ssegona

[@shamimnalunkuma2377]

Thank you Andrew Mwenda, some people think thin!!!

[@eddieluis4203]

I think it's u who think thin.

[@josephkyambadde6117]

I agree soooo much with you listening to these people makes me wonder how I'll informed they are

[@nantalegorret1380]

Is nalunkuma your name or you adopted it?shame on you asin is asin

[@charlesOamodoi]

Sometimes, not everyone is able to tell wisdom from noise. These nalunkumas just enjoy when their man advocating for nonsense. The truth is Andrew is guilty of this Sin.

[@gloshz9152]

The one who thinks big was left on.the interview

[@tonnykinalwa]

Hi guys, iam with Honorable Sseggona but i liked the way these guys are handling the debate. This is maturity though each of them is at the extreme of his party so i want to request all other political debaters to show the same manner because this is our country together despite our differences in politics.

[@patrickmbogo2605]

In Dubai for example, couples are forbidden to show affection for each other in public places.... but tourists flock there and observe such legislation... Why can't Ugandan visitors do the same for our values.?

[@arthurkiiza355]

Mwenda is one of them

[@Scottpeter6193]

Thanks, old man of the clan @Andrew mwenda.

[@agabajulius4550]

Thanks Mr segona and your team for being confident to the issues or to reach /assert the voices of Ugandans

[@DrDrwaT]

Thanks for the calmness Hon. Medard

[@nalumondeprossy4447]

The bible says in Isaiah 5:20 woe to those who call evil Good. Thank you so much Hon Ssegona for standing for our African culture.

[@gemcami7243]

Congrats you get enslaved by white religion

[@omartistry]

African culture that deems its traditional beliefs demonic in favor of colonial religions such as Christianity. Smh…

[@kevinboone2178]

Traditional precolonial African cultures largely affirmed their same-gender loving sons and daughters.

[@eddiebillions669]

Kamara should interview Pr Sempa and Mmale to get a proper perspection on this issue those guys have authentic work and evidence

[@bunjohadad3433]

😂

[@memyselfandi2506]

And t sharts

[@stellamwangusya8071]

Thank you Segona👏🏿👏🏿

[@MrZakemedy]

Thank you Segona, we are proud of you

[@yaaobenewaah1697]

This is the most civilised conversation I've heard on homosexuality anywhere in the world

[@MISS_SHERRY]

As an American 🇺🇸 I feel like they should do what’s best for them.

[@GreenSabre187]

Do you think the same about nazi Germany? You know who I mean, the guys that killed your grandfather xD I guess nazi Germany is completely different huh ;}

[@joe7626]

How comfortable for you. Watching other people suffer not caring is very comfortable

[@MrKasiko2]

what? Best for who?

[@buildandmakewithnila]

they will try that in america not here

[@Divinefavour.]

Junior I know you went to America as a gay, remember when you were in kakumba camp how to lied to UNHCR about your status. You were born in uganda and I know your family background very well.

[@greenknight8239]

Andrew Mwenda is smart as a whip. Going up against Segona is no joke 😂 great points too.

[@believer2010ful]

Three Strong brains

[@charlesOamodoi]

You should say Andrew has been humbled today because his debate had no merit at all. It was someone trying to justify his position without legal facts.

[@marysemirimu170]

Andrew Mwenda’s reasoning lacks substance

[@jimh2594]

Thank God there's still some morals and common sense in the world

[@crowsandravens8998]

Rare indeed. Respect from Canada.

[@obedgiujames8933]

Segona otegaranyooo We don't gain much in their aid when they send us aid Andrew and few others are the one gain in so secure young generation big up medad

[@MrKasiko2]

My friend, I am all 4 the opposition, but u are being quite naive. Actually, whatever little u get out there is because of aide. Without enough aide ghetto life will take on a whole new definition

[@donnuele7693]

I'm really scared of this world

[@psalm-istheansweramadi]

It is indeed scary.but the only refuge is in God.

[@amonmuhangi5784]

Thanks Mr segona.

[@lugazimedicalclinicsuganda1015]

Thanks Mwenda

[@kasandemonick]

Andrew Mwenda should know that before sympathizing the Neighbour, one should first take care of his own family.

[@sirfelix3937]

Been respecting mwenda as an intelligent... big ups Mr .Segona all my respect to u plus been those of mwenda😎

[@RonaldMOmuya]

If you do not agree with someone on an issue, it does not mean that you are more intelligent than him or her. Let us be respectful even to those we do not agree with. That is why Patrick has those two on the show

[@PaulPaul-qe6dx]

czarne bydło afrykańskie 🤣🤣🤣

[@RonaldMOmuya]

@@benjaminssem5464 it does not matter what I do or do not support. My point was calling some one less or not intelligent. Intelligence, is the ability to understand the world around you. Do you want to tell me, it will will be wise to have debates if we agree on the same issue? There is opposition in all things. E.g. Male or female, day or night, rich or poor the list can go on

[@TonnyOkello]

Because he has a different view makes him less intelligent? You need to check on your intelligence, probably!

[@nuwabinedenis6820]

Well laid hon. Ssegona!

[@Tecobelli]

Amazing how religion can make people act like Satan. I pray for the innocent LGBTQ+ people in Uganda.

[@gloshz9152]

You can accommodate them plz

[@tuyikundegaba1508]

Seems Andrew's brain is far advanced than 500 MPs 😂

[@Qdrahmadhah-dl2wu]

Hon ssegoona , thank you very much for educating that old man mwenda who doesn’t have anything to teach and tell the world. He should act as his age .

[@hebrewhomesteadupdatewalee8303]

SHALOM UGANDA!!!!!!

[@nikozie]

I’m with Andrew thank you for looking past this nonsensical bill in Uganda You are not an island in the world trust me

[@pl4423]

Lets then create laws against all sins in the bible coz we are holier than thou now as a nation...why are we choosing which sins to accept and which not to accept??? Its the hypocrisy for me😏😏😏

[@princeryansharifmiles3245]

For the case of landlords, hotels and tourism Andrew Mwenda's point is Valid.

[@emmanuelankomah6343]

Investers and tourist still go to the Arab countries despite some draconian laws there

[@arkchulo2934]

They will come

[@josephineamodoi5870]

Hon. GREAT address

[@kisakyedeborah8510]

I have had of mwenda since long, I used to think he z really intelligent and smart man😢😢😢

[@deejaytexas9237]

Mwenda you disappointed me😢

[@Sania-vt8ey]

Thanks to Senoga. May God protect our country

[@LoLoTown2023]

Great Segona, we are not shy? We are attacking homosexuality, mwenda should stop the confusion

[@psalm-istheansweramadi]

He is a confused.

[@devbachu7072]

Many investor s should stop investment in your country because of this law you all made

[@ndarungitsetresor700]

NTV I do enjoy this program. Would you please provide us with youtube videos with quality image of 720 HD or 1080 HD? Thank you!

[@godfreydembe5276]

Andrew Mwenda you're good to dae

[@MarinaJBoyd]

I challenge anyone to find me an intelligent debate like these men, on this issue in the US. Watching men have a calm rational debate about this makes me want to go husband shopping in Uganda.

[@semakulafaisal8870]

Don't waste time am here

[@xena6894]

Lol .Ok. Try to not teach what's Drag queen story hour. That thing ( DQ)exists nowhere in Africa. But I see AAs are doing that type of " entertainment "it in America .

[@kulthumthabit7036]

welcome home

[@mwesiwarren1892]

😂😂😂

[@denismuwonge3769]

Don't be hoodwinked by their serenity. We do have bigger problems, like corruption. Homosexuals have not killed any one, corruption deprives hospitals of medicine, lead bad roads where people die of accidents, etc. Discussing homosexuality on a national scale instead of corruption is a diversionary political gimmick.

[@tusiimealexander]

I think mwenda has not yet come out of his cave. Inform him to read about ,"Allegory of the cave," by Plato.

[@ibrahimkasujja7445]

Big up Hon Ssegona

[@mee7810]

Andrew mwenda OUR CHILDREN

[@siszion3926]

Why do people think the West is interested in Africa's development! Should money blind us not to remember the atrocities of colonialism and slavery? Someone needs to educate that Mwanda man that Uganda is able to trade with other African countries, Asians and Russia. We don't need to bow down to the western bullies just because we feel we're not at their 'financial level'! Geeeezzzzz! Shall we never be free and decide on what we want ☹️

[@nikozie]

At the end of the day America is a world superpower n the first world order Uganda will regret it eat my words 😂

[@Amongero07]

@@nikozie America has a low birth rate, 62 trillion dept, and now its currency is about to be destroys by the BRICS. True in the end of the day they are a superpower, for now…

[@APOLO-oq3ce]

Uganda has way bigger problems to try to fix than focus attention on what grownups are doing. It's the jobs of parents to teach their chidren what is acceptable not the government.

[@elliahely4911]

Mwenda's laughter towards the end of the conversation (1:09:23- 50) is soo contagious like I've never seen. 🤣🤣

[@kevinboone2178]

Where do you stand on the humanity of Uganda's gay sons and daughters? You're next. Why? Just because...

[@Tarubini1]

On the question of teacher’s supervising children into homosexual acts, can the Honourable Lady list for us some examples?

[@TonnyOkello]

These are just made up social media stories to up homophobia.

[@ab_squad4779]

Thanks to Mwenda< such a brilliant Brain that articulates issues with reality not these so called Old folks living underground.

[@robertmusinguzi9030]

What you should always know is that what seems brilliance in sight of men is foolishness before God So choose who do you depends on

[@tumukundedon558]

Exactly!! You know Africans and Ugandans in particular hate reality. you will hear someone who believes in the Jesus of Israelites Mbu protecting African values. They don't take time to articulate issues.

[@josephkyambadde6117]

I agree

[@ayong.fejeck8111]

There is a direct link between access to care and diseases prevalence. The parliament should at least have some public health gurus 😢

[@SupaSmoothReels]

The father is coming back to take what is his🙏🏿🙏🏿‼️

[@brigidharrietmunayi8917]

Good Uganda, that is why you are a COUSINE to us Kenyans and we suffer together in many ways. So happy that you have answered all the problems we have faced in this world. YES, exactly, because 8 robed you your rights, do you are under my control, under my custody, imagine what a horrible treatment this would be being tortured psychologically, spiritually, that affects your physical health in the end.

[@dominickayombo8768]

Viva Viva Hon Segona, u have given Andrew a free lecture and Kamara the host is in class too

[@moseskanyike5327]

This Mwenda is a layer....that premier league arm band...that one is put when rembering some one who died some time or death which has happened....not promoting homosexuality.... Useless Andrew Mwenda

[@godwinchirandu8791]

@@moseskanyike5327 no Moshe, that is not the armband he is talking about. The rainbow one is the gay one. Look it up!

[@xogtaheesaha530]

Viva Uganda parliamentary

[@mugisharobert1148]

Next time invite for us Mr.Joseph Kabuleta on this plat form

[@tumwesigyestuart9718]

Mwenda must be paid to promote home sexuality

[@blaq7892]

What is the cultural norms and traditions prior to the European

[@shyakajbk]

Mwenda needs to be investigated.

[@mugwanyaandrew4169]

For really Uganda God bless you let us leave as true Ugandans

[@RebellionWarrior]

The law has to be amended.

[@akamumpaalex8525]

I like the calmness of Hon. Ssegona. But if I may ask this Andrew who call himself "old man of the clan", how much can it cost to sale your culture. I see you worried more about financial aspect

[@allanbenoyo3279]

Why should there be room for madness....???

[@pip5277]

Hopefully, this will put an end to the flood of Western NGOs sympathetic to the alphabet community actively recruiting in Ugandan universities and offering money to students to promote gay and trans activism. Ugandans have stated unequivocally, through their representatives, that homosexuality is not acceptable in their country, making their position perfectly clear to the Western world. They can now get back to work!

[@chrischris5058]

Mwenda if yo a Christian and u visit Arab countries do take pork with u because it's your right to eat pork.... Being educate is not being reasoning 😅😅😅

[@LearnitwithMuhindo]

Call Ssempa for this Menda Guy

[@brigidharrietmunayi8917]

VERY GOOD EXCELLENT.

[@turyatungarogers]

I need to know,does Andrew have a child?

[@danielouta5489]

😅😅😅 like the way Segona is eying Mwenda

[@KaduumyaAaron]

But we not the children that have done that.

[@bahungurwaobed1021]

Let us pray for our children.

[@jibril2950]

Then don't give birth

[@josiahflame7477]

​@@jibril2950 🙄🤡

[@jibril2950]

@Josiah flame because your infant can even fall in a bucket of water and die.there are many ways your child can be in danger not just lgbt

[@granvillesimmons6033]

I think the comment Trump once made about African countries is certainly true of Uganda.

[@josephkyambadde6117]

Still at this point. I am surprised by Andrew Mwenda's opinion

[@josephkyambadde6117]

Intelligence

[@lubowantate9922]

Homosexuality is by nature and not by nurture. Laws with not abolish it. It exists in all human societies. What is needed are laws against sexual assault by homosexuals and heterosexuals alike.

[@arthurssemuyaba4667]

Thanks for the show....If a pastor is trying to help someone to overcome the act of homosexuality...despite of him knowing the vice, the tenets of law are aimed to stop the promotion of homosexuality thus the pastor won't convicted under the new since he trying to curb the vice..

[@WrAbwang]

The same children they seek to protect will change the law in 10 years!

[@GODSLAYTHERREN]

They be put to death before hand it doesn't matter.

[@kamariatoure42]

🤣😂

[@hairpitch]

Andrew mwenda you're telling us WHAAAT? For God's sake

[@OMJOVI]

ANDREW MWENDA BEING SCHOOLED

[@MayaKhan-me5kd]

Andrew you know what you do behind closed doors,I could write a long comment that is nothing but the truth about you,something very despicable that happened last year,but I’ll leave you in the hands of God. Uganda please protect our children,it’s very true these people are recruiting.

[@newug3347]

The world cup took place even without Qatar supporting These things. Tell Mwenda that even in America, there many states that don't legalise Hormosexuality

[@GreenSabre187]

You're saying you get into prison in America for being gay yes?

[@francandsex8793]

I don't remember Qatar passing such dramatic laws... to bur foreigners from renting a venue just because they know they are homoxual??😮

[@michaelcody3960]

@@GreenSabre187 You can get to prison in America for being polygamist .You can get to prison for being gay in Russia /Saudia/Qatar/Emirates/Oman/China and no one is bullying them go figure that.

[@livingstonekuzaara4957]

Mwenda super musiyazi 😢

[@Paul-fc6lb]

Hell no! There is not even one centimeter for the lgbt movement in Africa!

[@lavellajohnson5065]

Damn devils who treats humans that way

[@ROSEBEL36]

The only valid point that Andrew Mwenda has made is that because we are having this conversation, or debate, it has planted curiosity in the minds of its viewers. And curiosity killed the cat. It now makes sense when paul in the scriptures said, I have made it my goal to focus is Christ and him crucified and nothing else. It makes sense why the knowledge of good and evil was a bad idea to begin with. Unfortunately in this world we live in, these are things we see everyday, always in our faces, and that is why it has to be called out as evil and condemned.

[@kevaughnharrison9761]

Homosexuality is inherently evil and against nature biblically speaking.

[@arkchulo2934]

Curiosity make pipo to know the disadvantages in it how can pass food through nose when you have mouth

[@ROSEBEL36]

Yes curiosity has two sides, a negative and a positive, but you can’t control which direction one will take or how it will affect that person. The more curiosity, the more knowledge you want to attain about the issue, the more knowledge you get you either get solid on your stand against it or your heart softens towards it, meaning you become more tolerant. When someone becomes tolerant about something, it won’t be long before they start accepting it and being okay with it and living with it.

[@edwardkaggwa4856]

Nice debate, of course Mwenda kazannyirizi just while Sseggona is a seasoned super legislator and a counsel.

[@MrKasiko2]

Are you serious? Did segona make any serious points. All he showed was how emotional this law is. Its not based on common sense or for that matter research.....a lot of it out there. I am not gay, but even i cant just support this. In fact as a christian i still dont think adultery should be a crime.

[@shanascorner6931]

@@MrKasiko2 There is no research that shows someone is born gay, it's just their emotions and feelings, one wakes and is like I feel I am a woman,goes to shop for dresses. Actually it's all messed up and confusing. It's an insult to women, women go through alot mentally, physically, emotionally tht non of these Trans women will understand other than just feeling good in their dresses and skirt

[@MrKasiko2]

Actually the biggest research done so far points to a complex mixture of nurture and nature... although scientists are not well versed with what genes play a role. They suggest that many genes affect the sexuality of an individual. However, my beef with all this, after examining how the western world makes laws, emotional laws are counterproductive. The western countries have done a great job of accepting Muslims for example even its obvious tht their way of life runs against much of what they have fought for. They have also accepted free speech...not because they are stupid or otherwise. By the way, being gay has little to do with western values. It's just development and maturity to understand tht actually, the other person is not as bad as we think.

[@aliviarcargouganda9558]

But the kazanyikilizi has brought out some very vital questions that sseggona has failed to answer😅😅

[@arikirizaemerine7893]

So Mwenda, your interest is more of what you can get from out their?

[@dariustwikirize5157]

Andrew Andrew,God should for give u

[@williammatthewdaze9569]

Is not only Ugandans that are against that all of Africa are against that

[@dominickayombo8768]

Hahaha. "U pay me to listen to you" , thanks for telling that hooligan Mwenda and he is there loughing at the tears of Ugandans

[@psalm-istheansweramadi]

Yasinika!

[@alexisbuchana5188]

This guy mwenda studied from Which schools ? Let us now dig deep

[@Tarubini1]

Homosexuality and anything associated with it is a a private matter and should remain so unless one commits a crime and by the way regardless of their gender. There are many gapping holes in the bill. The real test lies in in its implementation. It’s likely to victimise many innocent Ugandans. It’s also a negative PR for Uganda PLC.

[@susankanyesigye5776]

Mr kamara today has no words for those 2 brains😅😅

[@davidmakabayi9112]

I think more focus of resources should be on all citizens living a basic quality of life than deviation from the big problem affecting the majority to live as humans

[@firelord1202]

Please put heavy sanction on uganda for their homophobic behaviour

[@ntlantlatafari4455]

Viva Uganda 🇺🇬

[@byamuhangifred8291]

Hon. Segona, i congratulate for really defending our cultural behaviors. Thank you so much

[@davidmakabayi9112]

Don’t we have more serious issues to debate than this ?? Let us prioritise on the issues that matter most for all than who sleeps with who.

[@davidmakabayi9112]

God works in mysterious ways

[@rahyuha8558]

I just enjoyed Mwenda's discomfiture🤣🤣, while he fought so hard not to give triggered responses. And asking questions in the hope of triggering disoriented answers. Jajja Mwenda, sin is sin did you like the awkwardness?

[@MrKasiko2]

You started your statement well...until u started using sin and God. We have to take this religion with a pint of salt. Some Muslims believe non believers should be thrown off cliffs. Some Americans believe that only Christians should be their president. I can go on and on in the name of religion. Religion throughout history has been a tool of control and to some extent subjugation of women. British used it on us and it worked. Muslims still do it in islamic countries.....My point is that we need to use a bit of common sense, and reasoning to make decisions like this. Just because we hate these acts doesn't mean we should oppress others. There has to be a halfway point of give and take to leave in a good place.