Is This Better Than a Strat?! Yamaha New Pacifica Models

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@shirlmccullough1993
@shirlmccullough1993 10 ай бұрын
Pacifica 611 & 612 are way under appreciated. Very nice and underrated.
@williamhutchings1543
@williamhutchings1543 10 ай бұрын
I'm not in the market for a guitar like this but still watched the video because I have so much respect for Yamaha's ability to deliver great value and quality, and you guys make great demo videos.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 3 ай бұрын
I want to buy my family a Pacifica 112. I can’t imagine paying $1300 for an Indonesian instrument. I would stay budget or go premium. I would prefer to save up for a good amp.
@Oz-gv5fz
@Oz-gv5fz 2 ай бұрын
@@chevy4x466 why? cheapest boden MII cost $1.6k and sell well
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 2 ай бұрын
@@Oz-gv5fz there r a lot of offerings in the budget…. We r building a kit currently. The more I learn, u can really doing a lot of modding for a few hundred bucks. I do believe u that the brand u r referring is a really nice guitar though.
@wizdeas6064
@wizdeas6064 10 ай бұрын
Nice playing! A couple of points: Fretboard radius is compound on the Pro whereas it's constant on the standard plus...and the finish on the neck of the Pro is satin as opposed to gloss on the Standard Plus.
@BrandonSorianoMusic
@BrandonSorianoMusic 10 ай бұрын
The Standard Plus actually has a satin neck finish as well-- the Professional is a Custom Tinted Satin, though!
@plainzero
@plainzero 2 ай бұрын
@@BrandonSorianoMusic Also there was a process of Acoustic Resonance Enhancement (A.R.E) thats been done to the Professional model.
@jordostoadhole
@jordostoadhole 10 ай бұрын
The Pacifica Standard Plus is manufactured in Indonesia 👍
@nicolasfernando697
@nicolasfernando697 10 ай бұрын
Yhea AND they're good as hell
@carpediem4413
@carpediem4413 10 ай бұрын
Yep and WAYYYY overpriced for an Indonesia at $1399 IMO 😮
@watersnortmoment3734
@watersnortmoment3734 10 ай бұрын
@nicolasfernando697 I like Yamaha, but there’s no way it’s $600 better than a Pacifica 611 or 612.
@billsimpson1085
@billsimpson1085 10 ай бұрын
At the end of the day they’re all $99 guitars. Companies like this are just after the profits at your expense.
@Joelvete6
@Joelvete6 9 ай бұрын
​​@@carpediem4413why? Because only Americans know how to build guitars or something? They build all kinds of guitars in Indonesia, also they're made in Yamaha's own facilities there, it's not like they're made in a sweatshop or something
@ilovejapanesemusic3858
@ilovejapanesemusic3858 10 ай бұрын
😊 I've got a Lefty Pacifica and I'm very happy with it. It's an Indonesian model from the '90s, with SSS configuration😮 I'm not even halfway through the video, and already there's so many improvements!
@michaelhaydenbell
@michaelhaydenbell 6 ай бұрын
​@TheRange7Google.
@jamesc2827
@jamesc2827 10 ай бұрын
I have the Revstar standard and I simply love it has so many tone options I think 10
@dudemandudebro938
@dudemandudebro938 10 ай бұрын
Mine goes to 11
@Necropheliac
@Necropheliac 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate very much Yamaha’s approach to music instrument design and production. I learned to play on a Yamaha acoustic and I keep coming back to Yamaha instruments because it truly is a top tier brand based on all the brands I’ve tried. I like fender a lot, but Yamaha manages to quietly steal their thunder in subtle but meaningful ways, and especially in cost.
@masatanida9119
@masatanida9119 10 ай бұрын
I like these quite a bit. If I didn't already own a EBMM Cutlass, I would seriously be considering the Pacifica Pro to fill the "modern S-style guitar" niche. Admittedly, I thought they looked a bit plain when I first saw the announcement, but after hearing that the design is inspired by the 1980s Japanese City Pop, it started to make more sense to me, and now I dig the clean, 80s pastel look.
@Taylort3b
@Taylort3b 10 күн бұрын
Fortunately I still have my original Pacifica 904(1995). Simply an amazing guitar. I purchased a Fender Elite and Ultra with the idea of selling the 904. Well that didn’t happen. Sold both the Elite and Ultra. Held on to my American Deluxe(2010) as it spoke to me more than the Elite and Ultra. The 904 is a Warmoth compound radius neck. Seriously looking at the Yamaha Pacifica Standard plus as it has similar neck to my regrettably departed Pacifica 812w.
@veganize-it1891
@veganize-it1891 10 ай бұрын
Very nice. I have a 611 and considering an upgrade. They sound great, but then again it’s cooper playing 😅 he makes every guitar sound amazing 😬
@pieve5516
@pieve5516 10 ай бұрын
Good job. Great playing and a clear explanation of the features if the Pacifica. Consider shootouts. I know that it may tweak a vendor or two but you guys have credibility. also consider starting your own custom shop where you offer to upgrade with pickups, bridges and tuners.
@Holonomics
@Holonomics 10 ай бұрын
This is a really great video and I do feel Pacificas are underrated. I had a cheapo Pacifica in the 1980s as a teen, and so my wife as a little present bought me a Pacifica 112J recently. The owner of the music shop was listening to me noodle, and he was surprised to discover that it was better than a slightly more expensive Squire Telecaster. I'm just an indie noodler who plays occasionally on my own at home, but I think all Pacificas, no matter what your price range is, should be checked out and compared to the Fender/ Squire you may be considering.
@cpoyet4107
@cpoyet4107 10 ай бұрын
Awesome guitars as always...mine is a pa112 from 1998 dark brown mat finished... I did a custom out of it in 2013 with 1 of steel poly mirror pickguard and Di Marzio pickup set...love it
@Crabitat
@Crabitat 10 ай бұрын
Yamaha not being "sexy" means great value for people who simply want great instruments at reasonable prices. I got a P90 Revstar and it's super cool.
@christinepratt4656
@christinepratt4656 10 ай бұрын
Great video, as always. Would be nice to hear a sound comparison between these guitars and a higher-end Fender strat. These Pacificas sound great to me!
@smartmammal9926
@smartmammal9926 10 ай бұрын
The Plus is not compound if I am not mistaken. It is 13.75" (13.8 according to Yamaha).
@bobaldo2339
@bobaldo2339 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, too flat for me to consider.
@Fred-gi4uz
@Fred-gi4uz 10 ай бұрын
I’ve got the Pacifica 612, awsome guitar
@JohnsMusicClasses
@JohnsMusicClasses 7 ай бұрын
10:00 The compound radius is only on the Made in Japan pro model. Ordered mine recently. Had to opt for the blue model, would have liked it in the Shell White that the Standard Plus comes in!
@baneverything5580
@baneverything5580 7 ай бұрын
Yamaha is a brand I trust. I use one of their old mixers with very basic effects and their 100w subwoofer as part of my small acoustic setup with two Powerwerks PW50 speakers.
@terryjohinke8065
@terryjohinke8065 10 ай бұрын
Yamaha have a building in Singapore where people buy /learn their instruments. I was in Singapore on a delivery day and the instuments like guitars come in and go out that quickly it's unbelievable. They are also the piano of choice to may. Always good quality and sound . I have nothing but praise- oh one criticism, the early FG dreadnought guitars had terrible cheap tuners, Yamaha rectified this problem.
@dongarrett9735
@dongarrett9735 9 ай бұрын
I have two Yamaha Pacifica guitars and they are both great guitars. Plus I own 4 Fender Strats. But learn towards the Yamahas due to it's unique tonal qualities are more throaty than a strat. And playablity is flawless. The quality is that of a high-end guitar. At a Fender player series price.
@howtorepairpendulumclocks
@howtorepairpendulumclocks 10 ай бұрын
Love these videos. Great vibes. Great playing.
@NhisHonor
@NhisHonor 10 ай бұрын
Thought I heard you say both necks are the same. Standard plus does not have compound radius, only the pro. If I heard you wrong, very sorry. Thanks guys. Okay went back and listened to it again, and you did say compound radius on both.
@entemen
@entemen 10 ай бұрын
With no electric in the arsenal was planning on one this year and this looks like it
@VideoDetection
@VideoDetection 10 ай бұрын
Haven't read all the comments, but I can tell you one is made in Indonesia, (not China) and one in Japan. There are differences between the two but nothing major except for the neck radius. The Indonesian has a 13 3/4" radius and the made in Japan has a compound radius neck of 10 - 14". Both have same pickups and SS frets so it comes down to what neck radius you like and how deep your pockets are :)
@stephenweetlarcovic5227
@stephenweetlarcovic5227 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic demo, as always. I'm set to buy the standard plus, mainly because I want the ash pink color. Both of these models sound extremely close. The business between Japan & Indonesia is not a factor. I've had Indonesian built guitars that were super. And, I've had a few outstanding Japanese built guitars. But in this case, I'm going with my color of choice. Yamaha has designed two very similar guitars & the difference is rather unnoticeable .
@gtr1952
@gtr1952 5 ай бұрын
I may have to try one. I'm 72, and I've been playing for ~55 years. I wanted to add a hard tail Strat, so I bought a Robert Cray MIM w/a rosewood board. I kept it, but I'm a little underwhelmed with it. I also tried a RevStar mid-model w/ P90's. I gave it 2 weeks. I've played Gibson/Fender most of my life, I just didn't care for the RevStar, I sent it back. I liked the sounds of the Pacifica, and I can see the rolled FB edges, but the thin C neck? I just prefer 50's Gibson, 60's Fender bigger necks. Thanks!! --gary
@orryfishburne5326
@orryfishburne5326 10 ай бұрын
I think the Pacifica Standard Plus is going to be my next guitar. I recently got a RSS02T (Revstar Standard with P90s) and it's easily my favorite guitar i have ever owned. Im really blown away with its build quality and I'm very interested in checking out more Yamaha instruments. My main guitar before the Revstar has been a G&L Tribute S-500. Theres just something about the tonality of a S-Style that i always gravitate towards and i think it's time i find a higher quality S-Style guitar to replace my Tribute S-500. I think the Pacifica Standard Plus might be the one. Its either that or try to save up enough to get a G&L Fullerton Deluxe S-500, but in reality the price of the Pacifica Standard plus is more realistic I would be very happy playing live with any Yamaha instruments, but im also fanboying over them cause im still in my honeymoon phase with the Revstar. 😂🤣
@joshtillman08
@joshtillman08 5 ай бұрын
The long haired dude is maybe the best player on youtube
@MisterJohngtr
@MisterJohngtr 5 ай бұрын
The professional has the compound radius fingerboard. The standard plus has a straight 13.75 radius.
@Cygnusthegodofballance
@Cygnusthegodofballance 9 ай бұрын
Everything Yamaha makes is top notch. Every Yamaha I have ever owned be it the few guitars, motorcycles, ATVs and snowmobiles have been excellent!
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 10 ай бұрын
Do they do a Single Humbucker and a Double Humbucker? What is the neck radius?
@dalecoffing8655
@dalecoffing8655 10 ай бұрын
You two are a great team. Very entertaining!
@peterharrell7305
@peterharrell7305 10 ай бұрын
Those squier sonic series arent actually that bad. I got a limited one last year and i was really surprised at the quality of the pick up that came with it. I was skeptical of how light it felt at first, but after some months of play, its my goto practice ax because its so damn comfortable.
@davidkastin4240
@davidkastin4240 10 ай бұрын
How much $ ? Are there lefties?
@johannesdebeer
@johannesdebeer 10 ай бұрын
"I wanna start with the pickups". "Ok"...proceeds to talk about the body construction. 😂😂😂
@geew-fr9th
@geew-fr9th 10 ай бұрын
There's a video of Cornell Dupree playing a Yamaha. Nuff said!
@tman6495
@tman6495 10 ай бұрын
I had a YAMAHA SG 2000........with a Mesa Boogie Mark l.....
@Guitar_Builder
@Guitar_Builder 10 ай бұрын
I didn't hear the fender quack sound, do they do that?
@MegaEldude
@MegaEldude 3 ай бұрын
It all sounded quacky to me!
@charlesbranch4120
@charlesbranch4120 10 ай бұрын
A fan of, and former driver of the Yamaha Grizzly and Viking, and looking to buy a Yamaha 4-stroke outboard to replace a 3-4 hp Evinrude... I will ask cycle and outboard shops about a guitar deal....🙃 Thanks!
@muktamao
@muktamao 10 ай бұрын
I have a Revstar... Looooove Yamaha, but can't get over the Pacifica's shape😮
@happytrails1963
@happytrails1963 10 ай бұрын
Have 2 yamaha acoustics and possibly would like to buy a red label. Would perhaps buy an electric at some point and would consider yamaha. They make such good guitars in japan.
@jwhittmusic
@jwhittmusic 10 ай бұрын
Will that blue pacifica pro demo model be available for sale when you guys officially start selling them?
@daddio307
@daddio307 10 ай бұрын
I hate block inlays, dots are 'meh', but these, i like!
@aquaticborealis4877
@aquaticborealis4877 10 ай бұрын
How would you compare the build quality to Charvel?
@A_Noid
@A_Noid 8 ай бұрын
Pacificas are fantastic starter guitars. Not super sold on these higher end ones, but I’m sure they’re really well made.
@marc8vino
@marc8vino 9 ай бұрын
Compound radius on the standard + ? Going into detail on how great that is, but is that true for the standard?
@ChidOki
@ChidOki 7 ай бұрын
No it’s not. They got that wrong, Standard+ is not compound radius
@pepmasters-999
@pepmasters-999 10 ай бұрын
Chris: Let's start with the body and then we'll get into the pickups Cooper I want to start with the pickups! Chris : OK, let's get into pickups. Cooper: The body is really nice... LOL
@MrShane5150
@MrShane5150 5 ай бұрын
What is the route under the pickguard (pool route, h/s/h)?
@drdave971
@drdave971 10 ай бұрын
You guys are great thank you for the insights 👍🏼🎸👍🏼🎸
@arjnoro1
@arjnoro1 10 ай бұрын
Pacificas are excelent guitars. But the only problem I cant live with is the neck width at the nut. They need to make it 42mm as a fender or even 43. Ive owned a couple pacificas and it was my only complaint.
@thehahahaha88
@thehahahaha88 10 ай бұрын
When will they hit the store?
@ChidOki
@ChidOki 10 ай бұрын
Correction: Standard Plus is not compound radius
@Gefffuhuh
@Gefffuhuh 9 ай бұрын
Andertons stated that only the japanese one is compound. I have rev and a high end pacifica with bare knuckles. I intend to swap my tom anderson for that japanese one sometime in the future. The day will come.
@paulmanning5452
@paulmanning5452 10 ай бұрын
I'm down with it, plus I liked the guitars. Depending on what your into, I'd say a person would be totally happy with any yamaha at any level. 😊
@joepassfan
@joepassfan 8 ай бұрын
What speaker in that Blues Jr iv? Sounded great.
@dougreid1951
@dougreid1951 7 ай бұрын
Puzzled by the Rupert Neve reference on the pickups - I worked for him fifty years ago and never heard any interest in guitar pickups - sadly he died in 2021. I've bought and played high end Yam; guitars, saxes, flutes - and a couple of motorcycles - all top notch stuff
@justinmccarn3223
@justinmccarn3223 7 ай бұрын
They were made by an engineer that works for Rupert Neve designs, not Rupert Neve himself.
@ChidOki
@ChidOki 5 ай бұрын
I know someone else answered this for you so it's but I kind of chuckled at your comment of it being "puzzling" - as if there isn't the possibility that an audio pioneer could develop an interest in something like that some point over a 50 year period. Anyone and anything can change a lot in half a century...and it's not like guitar pickups and audio equipment are in a different universe, the basic concept of coil wire is, at its core, the same thing! Super cool you worked for a legend though. Props
@johndavis9343
@johndavis9343 10 ай бұрын
I just bought one I love it I agree sounds just as good as a strat or better it's a great guitar
@Chillnote
@Chillnote 10 ай бұрын
These look like really great value, especially for someone who simply wants a really well built instrument
@Sandman.68.
@Sandman.68. 10 ай бұрын
I'm going to say it , it's been better than a Fender strat since it's introduction. Quality and value .
@marc8vino
@marc8vino 9 ай бұрын
I guess feeling a compound radius doesn't matter. Since both guys can't tell the standard is not. Maybe fretboard radius and neck shapes are not as noticeable as many make it out to be unless they are very different.
@zoeherriot
@zoeherriot 8 ай бұрын
It’s usually really obvious and from what I understand this is similar to the one on my fender ultra. So I don’t know what’s going on here.
@user-nu7xx7pc1d
@user-nu7xx7pc1d 6 ай бұрын
in my experience, only issue is that reselling price is not that good as a fender guitar
@alexshevchenko7568
@alexshevchenko7568 Ай бұрын
I've had a few Custom Shop Strats and Les Pauls and I ended up having a Pacifica Pro and a Revstar Pro. You just can't find a single flaw in these guitars. In my opinion, the only brand Yamaha can't beat is Tom Anderson. But TA guitars cost at least twice as much as the best Yamahas.
@TimGuitarcouk
@TimGuitarcouk 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for posting. Interesting that you seem to need to justify the fact that Japanese guitars are good. When I was a kid during the 80s one of the most popular high end electrics were the Yamaha SG 1000 & 2000.
@paulfowler5420
@paulfowler5420 10 ай бұрын
Standard plus does not have compound radius fretboard…
@CarlWilliams-sp4zy
@CarlWilliams-sp4zy 10 ай бұрын
In the early nineties, Yamaha must have flooded the UK with Pacificas, every guitar shop had a whole line of them. That's why they are so popular here. They caught on for good reason because they where a quality first guitar with great value for money.
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 3 ай бұрын
Yamaha oozes reliability and performance with good value in everything they do. Motorcycles (I have a 24' Tenere 700) Instruments, I have a Revstar Standard P90 and Pro model with Humbuckers. I mean Billy Sheehan plays Yamaha! The Pacificas would be just as groovy to play.
@RavBunneh
@RavBunneh 10 ай бұрын
I have dreams about the Pacifica 611
@uhhmike
@uhhmike 10 ай бұрын
I've got a pacifica 112 that I got used for 200 that I'll take over the 1k stats I've played. Just personal preference. Electrics have nothing to do with price in my limited experience.
@edyhartonochanel710
@edyhartonochanel710 Ай бұрын
Amazing sound...
@David-yv6ow
@David-yv6ow 10 ай бұрын
I had a very standard a few years ago and it just was not a very good guitar. I now have a James Tyler version of the variax and it’s a much better guitar. Would love to see these improved guitars be marketed into the variax model for line 6.
@darrellmiddleton6615
@darrellmiddleton6615 10 ай бұрын
Id like to see how the compare with the schecter Nick Johnston they're very similar i hear schecters quality is second to none
@matteopaolucci6801
@matteopaolucci6801 10 ай бұрын
I have the top of the line Pacifica 1421 and 1412...amazing and the Pacifica USA 2 the strato like not the Tele like also the PAC 904 was really good and rare to find...only other competitor is the Ibanez BL 1025 great HSH super strat
@fettuccinealraver
@fettuccinealraver 10 ай бұрын
Hats off to the creator of the thumbnail
@stonodo
@stonodo 10 ай бұрын
You like many, many people are mistaken sir. Locking tuners only pupose is for faster string changes. It has nothing to do with tuning stability. If a guitar with standard tuners is strung properly there will be no more slip or tuning stability than a guitar with locking tuners.
@tjstevens001
@tjstevens001 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you are such a guitar expert. Thanks for your opinion.
@TheFloridaBikeVlogger
@TheFloridaBikeVlogger 9 ай бұрын
really want/need one of these
@EricCPOP
@EricCPOP 10 ай бұрын
Yamaha need to bring back the Superstrats with the Floyd Rose's. Until they do I can't say I'm interested in Yamaha at all.
@JSession
@JSession 4 ай бұрын
One question. What do they put on the fretboard ? Because I despise rosewood, so naturally when I picked one up I was surprised to find out what it was. Whatever they coat the fretboard with I’m wondering if it wears off over time
@richkraemer9585
@richkraemer9585 10 ай бұрын
Really similar to my Godin Session which is Canada/US built
@noysdn4001
@noysdn4001 10 ай бұрын
They nailed it
@JohnSmith-fp8il
@JohnSmith-fp8il 3 ай бұрын
I want one in hardtail. Tremolos are a pain in the arse
@tomaslopez2940
@tomaslopez2940 8 ай бұрын
9:13 They should add a green-to-black burst flametop and call it "Godzilla Burst"
@MeandtheOwls
@MeandtheOwls 7 ай бұрын
For those about the specs, Pacifica is better then Fender Strat. But, it's a different guitar. I mean, Pacifica is a superstrat, with modern sound and modern features than a classic Fender Strat. It doesn't mean that Yamaha sound better. It sounds different.
@jwilder2251
@jwilder2251 10 ай бұрын
I only clicked for the hilarious thumbnail 😂
@actie-reactie
@actie-reactie 9 ай бұрын
Dont forget, yamaha also makes very good acoustic and digital piano's, and very good motorbikes.... maybe because we are from europe.... but I think a lot of us prefer japanese products over american products..... not meant as an insult!
@Wobbz9413
@Wobbz9413 3 ай бұрын
Wish I could like this comment more. I think everyone but amerkans prefer japanese or other asian products more than the things from the devided states of amerka.
@jhhag
@jhhag 10 ай бұрын
I own a '24 Standard Plus. I'm a lifelong Strat player. Imo this Pacifica has an amazing top end, with great positions 4 and 2 especially. However, I don't like the neck tones. It can't compete AT ALL with my Strats for neck tones. It sounds thin, and lacks punch. The neck on the guitar is fairly slim, but my Performer with a modern C is slimmer. It is a fine guitar. But not better than a good Strat.
@trevorD1156
@trevorD1156 2 ай бұрын
Definitely better quality and components than a performer strat, they are awful. Tho it's really subjective and obtuse to say that you can't get a good tone out of the neck but love the 4. There is a way to do both (eq,boost,etc) and you're just being thick.
@shiraga0516
@shiraga0516 10 ай бұрын
Yamaha makes musical instruments, motorcycles, yachts, boats, and (sometimes) car engines.
@emelle1283
@emelle1283 9 ай бұрын
Yamaha guitars are great but try FGN (Fujigen) - best in the world.
@greg6509
@greg6509 10 ай бұрын
To me, they sound a bit more tinny/metallic than Fender/Squire strats with a little less bell like sounds. Oh heck no for those prices!
@k2dave1969
@k2dave1969 10 ай бұрын
I have a third gen MIM Fender strat and unfortunately the Fender on the headstock means something to me and those Pacificas are fantastic, but it is Yamaha's fault for setting a precedent with cheaper mass marketed products. They as a company at least for guitars are still fighting an uphill battle at least for me.... I own a PRS, Strat and an aftermarket telecaster and if Yamaha produced a version of the Telecaster or T style body, I might check it out.
@OilCanHarry2U
@OilCanHarry2U 10 ай бұрын
There is the Yamaha Mike Stern “T” style guitar. I haven’t played one, but Mike loves it and there are many others that share his enthusiasm for the instrument.
@the.communist
@the.communist 10 ай бұрын
I only buy atlanticas
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how the Indonesian Pacifica is different than the revstar that is half the cost. I have a Yamaha boat, Yamaha percussion equipment. I am shopping for a used red label. I LOVE ALL THINGS YAMAHA!!! Not really feeling the fender knock off look at elevated prices. U want to sell my kid a Pacifica 112 to get started for $300, great. But to save up for a dream guitar and wind up with that thing, 😂😂😂
@EliecerIzquierdo
@EliecerIzquierdo 10 ай бұрын
Great!
@mikegaudet6264
@mikegaudet6264 4 ай бұрын
a beginner look at price an intermediate will look at the name a pro will listen to the sound and playability i think .
@speechy6260
@speechy6260 10 ай бұрын
Pacificas are great guitars, they are just so easy to play. BUT : they do not sound like a Fender Strat ! at least not like the typical single coil "Knopfler"-sound. Same thing with the Ibanez, imo...
@cliffordguess1008
@cliffordguess1008 2 ай бұрын
Yamaha just lowered the price for the Pacifica Standard Plus model to USD $1,149.
@cliffordguess1008
@cliffordguess1008 7 күн бұрын
Wow… Yamaha Pacifica Standard Plus (Black with Rosewood fret board) $860.78 on Amazon 01/14/2025
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 10 ай бұрын
I just went to Yamaha's website and the Pro is $3700. If that's the case, then that would be a no bueno.
@ChidOki
@ChidOki 10 ай бұрын
It’s not. Yamaha has a weird habit of putting a suggested MSRP price on their website but actual dealer/street prices are $1,350 for S+ and $2,200 for Pro
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 10 ай бұрын
@@ChidOki Yamaha, like every other guitar mfg. publishes MSRP. Manufactures SUGGESTED Retail Price. I worked at a music store in the late 70's. I know how the industry works. The dealer can sell at a discount, but some companies only allow MSRP on the internet and depending on the company, their markups vary. Yamaha typically has a 50% margin and retailers typically will discount up to 30%, sometimes more if they need to move inventory, have preferred customers that buy lots of gear, or they might get B stock deals. I also had a close friend of mine that worked for Yamaha for many years and he sold the MI equipment, which is guitars, basses, drums, amps, and mixing consoles, and keyboards. He told me that for the majority of their MI division, they use a 10x markup, which means if it costs Yamaha $100 in mfg. costs of materials and labor, they mark it up 10x to determine the MSRP, but they routinely sell to the reseller at 5x, so if it costs Yamaha $100 to mfg. then they'd sell it to the retailer for $500 and they'd put a $1000 MSRP on it. But the retailer might discount it, which is what YOU are looking at. That's a general rule. But Yamaha has OTHER overhead costs that are covered in that markup.
@musicteacher33bdx
@musicteacher33bdx 10 ай бұрын
I haven't tested the guitars... I love Yamaha and honestly I have to try one. But from all the videos I watched : something is wrong with the sound (very quacky) and something is wrong with price... For 2K €/$ Any guitar player would just buy a Fender made in US and get the fender sound. That's just my humble opinion...
@ChidOki
@ChidOki 7 ай бұрын
Speak only for yourself, how do you know “any” other guitar player just wants a Fender sound?
@musicteacher33bdx
@musicteacher33bdx 7 ай бұрын
@@ChidOki Technically I do not, maybe I'm assuming that the others would think the same... But honestly these quacky pickups do not offer a proper sound for that price range - so I would just get the Fender sound for 2 ground. If that's not your thing > there's nothing wrong with that.
@ChidOki
@ChidOki 7 ай бұрын
@@musicteacher33bdx yeah man I totally agree that to each their own but the way you put it, you kind of spoke for everybody, just keeping you honest haha
@FelimorBaldo
@FelimorBaldo 10 ай бұрын
Awesome guitar
@raythill
@raythill 10 ай бұрын
Damn, coop can play some Guitar.
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