Is This Just A Gravel Bike? - Scott Scale RC

[@AndrewJOliver]

I love light weight XC bikes. If I had to reduce my bike collection (from 11) to one, it would be an XC race bike.

[@dev1ce888]

For real a lightweight XC bike can do everything from long road marathons to moderate to extreme trails depends on how skilled you are.

[@mikicastan]

On the other hand,it cant do nothing properly. It's slower on road and gravel and slower then fully on trail.

[@ByronWWW]

Yep, same - my hard tail XC bike is my favourite Vs my full sus xc (too $$$ to ride through British winter) and road bike (useless for anything except smooth roads)

[@ianstuart5689]

@@mikicastan But is really fast in an XC race, which is what they are usually built for ;)

[@joren7653]

@@mikicastan But its the most fun :D

[@tonyjmcd]

Love Jimmy's disclaimer for the sponsored videos

[@josh33172]

When I do gravel events here in Belgium, they're almost always in the Ardennes, and the best gravel bike is a HT MTB as it typically gets far more saucy for your 40c or even 50c tires. My bike is an Ibis T29 with some custom Duke/DT Swiss wheels XO1 and Rockshox SID Ultimate, but 120 because I still ride singletrack. I do have a lockout instead of a dropper. The party trick for the T29 is that it can be single speed or geared, but also the rear triangle fully unbolts from the front triangle and fits into a Ritchey Break-away/S&S travel case. Works great if you do a tour somewhere else that you use the fast rail like Eurorail to get where you want to go. In my opinion...and I know the channel is sponsored by Hutchinson, but the Vittoria Mezcals are fantastic fast MTB tires for gravel, but still have great grip for XC. There is of course lighter options from Schawlbe....I think one model is something like 450g and wicked fast, but not the most reliable. The Mezcals won the Tour Divide w/o so much as a puncture! I know this is just a test, but if you run bar-ends inboard, you can get a psudo-hoods position which works great for long gravely sections and very little weight.

[@PassOnPassion]

I have a Scott Scale RC, roughly 20-21lb. I love it. Where I'm from there are trails and paved roads, so a gravel bike doesn't make sense here. The Scale obviously isn't as fast as a road/gravel bike on paved roads, but it can hold it's own and is a blast on the dirt.

[@globeRM]

I've always enjoyed your content... but lately they've gotten even better!

[@ixismg]

I’m really liking the versatility of this setup. I recently picked up a Marin DSX FS and it’s increasingly brilliant as the miles stack up, on and off road.

[@paullinnitt5450]

No. Gravel bikes are just hardtail Mountain bikes with less suitable handlebars.

[@laurentlandry9732]

I built myself a flat bar gravel bike this year because had to much tension in my back with a drop bar. I am loving the new position, the control and the looks. Very happy with my decision. Gravel was much better with a flat bar in my opinion.

[@ron2834]

which bike you buy? for flat gar gravel

[@camlunt120]

Francis just want to say thank you for getting me into road cycling, since coming across your videos a few years ago I’ve loved this sport ever since so thank you for that. Keep up the good work love the videos

[@marco916]

Absolute nice looking bike! Do you going with the MTB for a fitting session as well? I'm so interested what James can tell us about MTB & Bike Fitting

[@davecech4741]

My hardtail IS my gravel bike, and yes, it has a dropper. With 2.3 tires, it is definitely at a disadvantage on tarmac, but I'll take that trade off to enjoy the singletracks more.

[@jayb.6685]

I love light weight xc hardtails. But soon people might be calling them flat bar gravel bikes.

[@Bread_Garlichouse]

Nothing better than a solid, lightweight XC hardtail. Got my cannondale fsi down to 7.5kg. Very versatile. No need for all the dropper post and all that weight adding bullshit.

[@treeof611]

Scott gang! welcome to the club! The Scale* is such a good XC race bike.

[@FarzGFX]

Put drop bars on it! Give the fans what they want!!! ❤

[@filipe.portes]

Nice looking bike!! And there is no a single bit o doubt that this beauty will crush any gravel bike

[@petertreadway]

I've literally just today finished converting a flat bar hybrid to a drop bar gravel and it's weighing in at 12.6kgs! Im going to swap the ally fork out for a carbon one, which will bring the weight down a little but she's still a hefty girl! Looking forward to getting out on her. Can't wait to see that next part of this test though.

[@chrisshea4582]

I think a better question is - 'are gravel bikes just XC bikes with drop bars and fancy marketing?'

[@redauwg911]

thank you for the video Francis great to see Jimmy working hard

[@malcontent_1]

Haha he's a piece of work alright. Gotta love his innate troublemaking disposition. The videos are definitely better a scosche of Jimmi.

[@darrelduke]

hardtail.. its a beauty, good job nick!

[@Bu5t3R]

Love it. I’m pretty sure there is a man who races XC and Gravel that uses one bike for both and just swaps cockpit, fork and other bits. Used wireless so it’s mostly straightforward.

[@Mr229357]

Finally a proper bike, love hard tails. Nice bike 😊👍🏻👍🏻

[@mudclub811]

Ayeeeeee! We love the Scott Scale! Hardtail>Gravel.

[@JakeMartin-qi1by]

Mixing SRAM and Shimano. Mate. I had those SRAM s80 wheels with a SRAM red cassette....with super record.....

[@timothydog76]

Really starting to get that sound dampening treatment up in the new space! I can already hear the difference. Way less echoey. Cheers!

[@destinationbikeatboxhillin8255]

Lightweight hardtail for the win! You probably know that Wilier now do the Usma SLR - a hardtail version of the Urta you had. Also incredibly light and responsive at 8.5kg , we have one as a demo bike. Happy to arrange a comparison video if you're ever near us at Box Hill!

[@vialactea5549]

The image and content change you did with your channer has been fantastic, not to say I did not enjoy the content before. But shift has been masterfuly done!

[@erlendsteren9466]

My first mountainbike that was a good gravelbike was a soft-tail 1998 Rocky Mountain Element Race frame with all other parts from a good Merida . Triple chain ring in front swopped to 28-38-48. The bar is narrow and very low. Which meant that i often stretch my fingers to get extra 5cm longer arms.

[@gavinequinn]

Mystery bike from the previous switch kit video revealed. I can now sleep at night 😂 Nice work lads.

[@aldenroswell8504]

Funny to see the roadbiker perspective on mtb. Great video!

[@2jcgtevvti459]

That HT is fire!

[@roberttindall1203]

Looking forward to the next video in this series, I wrestled with this debate recently and went for a Specialized Epic HT to give clear water bewteen my Tarmac, fingers crossed I made the right decision 😃

[@extrme5]

Second the earlier comment about MTB fitting. There isn’t anywhere near as much out there on the internet! I’ve found it to be a MUCH more adjust and test process to get it dialled in than a gravel/road which seems fairly prescriptive when you go to have a fit.

[@jamesdoughty7914]

Excellent and informative as always, hope you’re doing okay with everything Francis!

[@lechprotean]

For anything under 100kms / 60 miles MTB is the way to go, but for longer rides drop bars give you more options to rest hands. Also for bikepacking or if you're mostly on paved or gravel roads then gravel is the way to go. Personally I've gone gravel + full-sus MTB as a hardtail XC MTB is indeed a pretty close category to gravel.

[@chadwells7562]

There are actually a bunch of alt bars you can use on a MTB to get additional and more aero hand positions. They look to be better solutions than drop bars in terms of versatility

[@theonemanopinion2764]

I have a very similar frame for my hardtail. But I fitted ridged carbon mtb forks to mine! enough clearance to fit any tyre, but stupidly light! Entire bike is a snip over 8kg! could drop another 500-750g with a carbon wheel set and a more top end groupset. I’ll make it a drop bar bike one day!

[@markanderson7412]

Keep them coming lads great content, New comparison hard tail + drop bars 42/44 ring up front V’s gravel bike 🤔

[@IlkkaHarmanen]

Francis says in the end that there's a hardtail vs mountain bike video coming soon... I hope the hardtail vs. Gravelbike comes out first though!

[@noelespigarestapia7953]

8.52? Every mountain biker went crazy 😮

[@JoeCincotta307]

Sweet build !

[@fotografamos4083]

Loving the Wild aprons.

[@TBATTIECYCLING]

The new set has taken Cade media to the moon . Truly amazing community you are all building. Cade group rides this summer in Manchester?

[@iceicebaby6980]

Scott hardtail is not your daddy's mountain bike!!! Next level lightness

[@lifeincycling]

Your show really needs a wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tubeman (jimmi's halloween costume for this year?)

[@cb6866]

Thanks Francis and Jimmi and Nic ....I think the fastest bike will be this one ...but I am OAF and played a contact sport , before helmets were required . Can you say CTE ?

[@MP19861]

What type of tyres are on this bike? I love them. Great bike.

[@sepg5084]

Gravel bikes can have bigger chainrings for higher speeds, most modern MTBs are limited to 34-38t

[@chadwells7562]

34t isn’t enough for road riding, but 36-38 definitely are given modern 12 speed 10-51 and even 9-50 cassettes

[@mr.d7429]

Sweet ride! The Scott scale rc here seems to be small size frame! What is the height of the rider?

[@neilt]

Knobs on the tyres - chortle!

[@jonpoon3896]

I’m jealous of those Wild aprons

[@jonburnell532]

I love my hardtail. I don't think I'll ever go full sus, a hardtail is plenty fun enough for my speed, skill level and usage.

[@kobeheremans6931]

Nice bike but i dont see a lockout lever for the forks ? Forgot something ?

[@christiandonaj8257]

XC Hardtails are the better gravelbikes in my opinion

[@djiembefolaDan]

I have both titanium hardtail XC and Ti gravel, it's a tossup but I prefer the XC bike when descending. The gravel bike feels more versatile just the same,.

[@malcontent_1]

Very cool & light new bike. Very shady _sous_ mechanic.

[@grahambell9831]

Slidey bike build Thursday! 😅

[@charliecook6909]

Super nice bike love a xc hardtail , the chain ring is tasty 😋 what brand it it?

[@1969mtb]

Hey mate! what happened with the project/idea to run the cape epic?

[@mrwhiteshorts]

I hope its the XC bike! Ive spent the last 3 1/2 years getting a Merida Big 7 down to 8.9kgs. Id be rather vexed if it turns out a £4k gravel bike is the way to go.

[@eleventybillion2301]

Did I see Jimmy drinking Ribena neat at like 1:00? Absolute animal

[@vaughanc4919]

Without doubt the hardtail will perform better on the trails, where the gravel bike will claw back a little will be on the road and forestry roads

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

Where are those bikes made ?

[@buildingreno]

Beauty Bike!

[@rivel8819]

Where you bought the frame?

[@markday1714]

great content ,thanks

[@TheUsername1302]

Question: your full suspension bike is a size medium if I remember correctly. This is a small, why the difference?

[@ByronWWW]

Don't you lock out your fork riding on road? I have a 2013 Scale 710 HMX and thought it was pretty light for a MTB at around 10kg, the new ones look awesome.

[@SamRoystonPhoto]

Really confusing to hear the question framed as 'is it just a gravel bike?' rather than 'Are gravel bikes just XC bikes?' given than XC has been around forever and gravel was invented by a marketing department a couple of years ago

[@robertdmarchand1929]

1:05 is Jimmi drinking neat Ribena? #savage

[@Risayogi]

I heard Safa Brian said on your other video about choosing gravel bike over MTB. All my gravel grinder friends have the same reason, especially when you have to ride MTB in the tarmac portion of your route. The main reason is the gearing of MTB is not big enough and you can run out of gear real fast in flat or descending tarmac. So, why not put gravel groupset into MTB?

[@ByronWWW]

My scale has a 36 chain ring and a Shimano 11 speed cassette with 27.5 x 2.25 tyres - it does about 40kmh with this setup on the smallest sprocket (not that I can hold that speed for very long with MTB tyres and position). Not sure how 29er wheels change things though?

[@BLAKEISHart]

Need advice for foam to help the echo?

[@MargeSimpson-ei3nn]

Convict hair cut noted!

[@10ktube]

This may have inspired me to go fire up my full rigid SS 29er and hit the dirt, I just realized I missed it.

[@robbchastain3036]

That does look like a great gravel bike, just get either rigid forks or something with 30mm or so of travel, plus narrower tires. That'd be my preference, anyway.

[@mireia3208]

Now add the Zniino 'H-bar' (aka carbon surly-corner-inspired bar) to build the ultimate monstrosity :D

[@MxCrab]

If Hutchinson release a 26" Tourec then that's a banging dirt jump trail tyre 👀

[@pab2611]

In theory Sram and Shimano 12 speed mtb cassettes work together but the spacing in the cogs is slightly different so the shifting may not be optimal

[@Aaaaargghhhhhh]

7:32 you mean hardtail vs. gravelbike, right? ;)

[@TommySaucierPlourde0]

There is no better bike, just a more specialized bike design for each task. Love the bike, love the new studio, love the team you have built up. Love WILD!

[@htonmusic]

scott's online youtube marketing is tasteful and isn't too in your face. admittedly i was swayed by safa into the genius and the spark, but really, owning them has been a joy. it also doesn't hurt that nino schurter's in on it too!

[@MichaelRyanCaputo]

What about comparing a xc bike (with a dropper) to a gravel bike with a dropper?

[@sgtjohnsen]

Don’t be a fan of Mtb, but that’s a nice one 🔥🔥

[@Skatted]

Hardtail ❤

[@molokofreak]

you should put the same tyres on both, xc anr gravel.

[@martinpettersson5797]

You wanna sponsor me with a Scott scale RC? I have 8 liter lungcapacity. I run marathon at 12 years old. Love this movie. And THE bike:)

[@letriciabrowder2942]

Buying the roscoe 6 for 900. Wish I could have gone lower but well, didn't have to spend 1300

[@beermonster1234]

Looking forward to that comparison because I’m genuinely unsure what to get between hardtail and gravel bike. I only have road bikes and am dying to off road Edit: ah just reached the end and realised it’s hardtail vs mtb. Please include gravel bike into the mix at some point!

[@Charli3Brav0]

I think that was a slip of the tongue at the end, gravel vs lightweight hardtail makes way more sense!

[@kesb1312]

Dont forget the fork lockout

[@arekbike5064]

It's a weeding ring now we are mareed i died😂

[@Robc1987]

Is Jimmy doing undiluted Ribena at 1:07? Madman.

[@milanb.6022]

Jimmi is a souf chef and he made a soup in your tire

[@alexkerslake4613]

spark every day

[@ThePalestinians8myCat]

Trust a road cyclist to put the Mtb in the short and steep head angle setting.

[@ivanleyong4025]

felicidades 🎉 Como me gustaría tener esa oportunidad. yo recorro caminos en Colombia con una bicicleta de 20 kg 😢

[@lesliewoodmobile]

Jimmy is now know as ONEJOB JIMMY 😂

[@thebikepackingadventurer]

Depends on the type of the trail I guess, but I wouldn’t fancy hurtling down a rocky red run on a gravel bike, whereas a flat bar hard tail should be okay. Both awesome bikes though

[@gajokanovic9067]

You must match the tires on the comparison video as well. Gravel on relatively smooth 35mm tires and on big knobbly 50mm is completely different, and the comparison to cross country would be a bit pointless, because a lot of the difference would be in the tires. At least part of the video 🙏

[@kpizzle1985]

For a fair comparison you need to ride both bikes from home to the trails

[@kevinlyon9501]

Interesting comparison though depends on type of trail and skill of the rider. Expect not much difference between the two unless it gets really lumpy. Just get Tony to pick a trail at Hamsterly and time him on each bike, I'm sure he'd be up for that or just bribe him with pork pie or date slice😂

[@Caleketa]

I think the mtb will do a better job. Purchased last year Topstone 0 gravelbike. For me personally +90kg and 195cm tall i think a mtb would be the better choise. Max tire width for toptone about 40mm.