Is this MN Models D90 Chassis too Expensive? Full Metal upgraded 1/12 RC Chassis

So is this FULL Metal MN Models Chassis worth the money? It's $170, but how much would it cost if you were to buy all the parts separately? MN99s Body now fitted ready for the running video.
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So I must stress, you will need to get this All Metal MN Chassis set up when you get it. There were some loose screws, the metal links for the axles are not correctly adjusted, and of course it's a roller chassis, so you need your own Servo, ESC, Controller and Body.
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[@bendwyer6532]

I'm new to the world of RCs but I bought two MN99s for my son and I after watching your previous videos. I waterproofed them by following another of your videos. And now you've shown this metal upgrade I think I'll have Xmas sorted. Really appreciate your work and looking forward to your comparison video with the MN stock setup.

[@TomleyRC]

Nice to hear someone is getting good use from my videos! Informative is what I try and go for... with a little entertainment along the way. 🤓👍

[@TroyDagley]

Nice video as always, the car definitely looks good with all the upgrades on them, cant wait to see you take it out, keep up the good work!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Troy

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Looks awesome,nice build.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@audiadz]

Hey tomley hope you're well dude, just bought myself one of these, got a hbx devastator a while ago an got into crawling, so bought this because I watched you're mn99s review, love you're videos bro, hope you an family are keeping well. Keep up the good work matey

[@emiliorosa6402]

Thank you so much. I have the mn 96 and I Also did research on how much it would cost to metal it out and you're on the money with price. Guaranteed that I'm buying it. You sir...you are the MAN!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude. 😍

[@emiliorosa6402]

@@TomleyRC you're welcome.

[@brsrc759]

Not only is the drive line angle important, but you also need to make sure the yolks are in phase

[@panzadeviborarc9613]

Hi Bro, I recently got the same model at Banggod, I had to move two links to give the axis distance, and with the other links I was able to angle the axles with respect to the gearbox. Sometimes the most functional point is also the most visually unsightly point of pumpking, which is when the connector of the links is less forced. Personally, I really liked this kit, I only acquired other wheels, bumpers and gearboxes. Acquiring everything in a kit makes the components also compatible. I hope you have a great day. I am fascinated by your channel, I wish you the best.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks for the kinds words. Yes... I got this running last night and had to do pretty much the same as you did.

[@DoRC]

The problem is that adjusting to get the pinion right will mess up the caster angle. It looks just about right now and will be way off once the pinion is correct.

[@modelnutty6503]

no caster for crawlers, if anything you want the pumpkin shafts pointing up slightly to help un-stress the U-joints

[@TomleyRC]

Pinon angle on crawlers is more of an issues with caster. I've adjusted it all now and it seems about right.

[@camrowdrone6497]

Looking forward to the wpl version 👍🏻

[@RCvapor]

Half the fun for me is building it, good informative video as always 😉

[@TomleyRC]

Yes agree....

[@carloshnunez]

Good info in case you want it full metal is better the complete package and then disassemble for grease oil and adjustment

[@101AirborneSGT]

love the metal bits

[@rcclan]

That actually looks ace like that want to see it going when your not as busy bud

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah...had a busy week... but hoping to get it out next week sometime

[@4cellracer]

The alloy washers are on ebay for just over £3 for 8 and front/rear trust with servo mount between £6 and £8 front and rear 👍

[@lloydlacasse7552]

Like comment on the drive shaft angle actually just help me with my problem I was trying to figure out thank you

[@TomleyRC]

No problem dude. Mine runs ok now it's been adjusted

[@rashobby-rc8903]

Awesome MN full metal👍

[@semperatis]

I'd do a mix of shortening the lower links and lengthening the upper ones Phil.

[@mrdracco9367]

Great review! I just imagine, for me the mn99 is expensive. This bad boy is worht all my toys together!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah...it's not cheap

[@modelnutty6503]

the A285004 shocks that I like may be slightly longer than those, and I mount the tops to the inboard tray holes, they're about 1" to the inside of the normal shock holes giving a lot more travel. haven't had issue with tires running into them, but idk with that beastie.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes...more flex is the thing this needs!

[@modelnutty6503]

@@TomleyRC yupyup, and with the tops of the shocks angled in the "pull rods" travel lots further before the shocks run out of travel. its how I've set my C-14, C-24, and MN D90 if you've watched the more recent run videos they all show it off. when they're at the rear tray holes it won't be standing tall like a monster truck, then you can adjust your links to level the axle casings, the drive shafts won't threaten to be kinking (is why they tilted the axles!). yes you'll lose some center clearance at the gearbox casing, but body and chassis rails lower (gearbox battery etc) is harder to side tip as flex itself goes way up.. like 2-1/4" to 2-3/8" of one wheel lift. it won't take you long to sort that stuff now.

[@RCManiacs]

Looks pretty cool, not to fond of those bulky axles though. But a nice idea to be able to buy all the upgrades like that

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, axles a bit chunky

[@smob6969]

Yeah I was gonna say buying it already pre assembled like that is cheaper . I speak from experience still waiting on pieces to get here as well. Roughly over $225 US.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... but then I guess there is no fun in buying it already built.

[@kilroy_4wlc]

Very nice chassis

[@WheelsRC]

Love all metal chassis.

[@TomleyRC]

Very 'bling' isn't it!

[@thelancashirerider8868]

Love the video

[@BlvlWmpower]

Do a durability test rolling down hills, to see which one breaks and how.

[@wadeskelton7585]

That front axle’s pinion angle is hilarious - were the links adjustable enough to get it around or did you have to modify anything? Great vid!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, all adjusted up now

[@MrYuckies]

Very nice brother! Another video saving me from noobie mistake! Not sure i like the square axle housing.

[@Del350K4]

It´s interesting to see how, in their relentless drive to push their products up market while keeping them affordable, different companies cut costs. It looks as though MN Models have specified a set of relatively high quality components, but have had to skimp on quality control. I wonder whether the WPL chassis will turn up with empty oil shocks and maladjusted linkages, or whether they´ll have cut costs in other areas instead. I´m also eager to watch your future comparison of this with its RTR sibling - to what extent will all the metal bits make it a better-performing rig?

[@modelnutty6503]

these are the inexpensive stock chassis with all the expensive aftermarket parts bolted to them, they're really not WPL or MN products.

[@Del350K4]

@@modelnutty6503 Of course! That explains the poor quality assembly work : )

[@TomleyRC]

I think this will win on power/torque on the Stock Vs Upgraded. But it's not really got the flex or the right tyres for the job. Of course... I will be routing for the underdog as always :)

[@modelnutty6503]

@@TomleyRC curious if you followed along my game plan starting with moving the shock tops inboard. after that its link length to put the axles right, and shock collar adjustment to dial in the flex. if those ARE the A285004 shocks it'll definitely work out nicely, with stock plastic links I'm getting 2-1/4 to 2-3/8 of one wheel lift from the MN D-90, so front+rear axle twist total is pretty high (for what it is anyway).

[@joshuasalisbury789]

I’m looking at buying the metal steering servo mount as broke the plastic one does the servo being lower mess with suspension travel?

[@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC]

Looking forward to, COOL cool cool, 👍

[@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216]

The question answered was is it cheaper. Of course it is but let's be honest, building it yourself will always have that satisfaction. Specially me when I first built my first kit. Took me almost 5 hours lol.

[@theminiatureconstructionco4556]

Absolutely! 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Agree...building is half the fun!

[@gautamsenthilkumar823]

Can u able to move the shocks over the other mounts as u did on wpl metal chassis?

[@BitseRodas]

I want to see your comparinson between this and a standard. I am building a MN99s, its already Full metal with a HW 1080, 3s lipo and a 370 wpl 2 speed gearbox. Love that little crawler

[@TomleyRC]

Hoping to get it out next weekend for a test

[@davideyt1242]

@Tomley RC I have this Chassis, the Chassis rails are not metal (I think carbonfibers or fiberglass?), is there any way to source those rails in steel / alu ? that is the only non-metal part that would complete this bit of kit.. more realistic and with the added weight will be much better for a crawler

[@adrianharrison5208]

nice bit off kit and I would say its worth it, just imagine how much that would be if it was one of the big rc brands that made it?

[@aardyvark6030]

i have a mn99s is this chassis easy to fit as in, a straight swap of the electronics etc

[@FreedomYak]

That’s an impressive bit of kit. It would almost be a shame to get it dirty, almost.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes haha... no mud for this one

[@rc-shedshakedown3191]

Good info. I see that WPL version much cheaper;approx 110 euro shipped. So look for a real cheap WPL c kit for the body , it could land around 140-150 euro all in, not bad. I was looking to have a 6x6 aside form my b-24, and kitted to my liking it would be 80-90 euro without esc and receiver.

[@mistermasada1829]

Thanks for posting. I like everything except the low profile tires. Do you think you would get more flex by changing the coil springs? Looking forward to the running video. Also, are you going to get the WPL version of this chassis?😀

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, I'm not keen on the wheels. It needs more flex, so maybe changing the shock angle will help

[@modelnutty6503]

@@TomleyRC definitely will! it'll drop down 1/4" or a little more, then all the "pull rod" readjustment to go with it to put the axle casings close to flat, maybe input pumpkins pointed upwards 3-4 degrees to help relieve kinking at the U-joints. when it's settled at its full running weight, should be able to lift front or rear bumper near 1/4" before tires lift off the table, roughly 1/4 to 1/3 of the shock travel (from the top). that'll get you "in the zone" with positive and negative suspension travel both sides.. is adjusted with the shock spring collars.

[@bobmann8817]

It looks good but I'm not sure if it worth the $$ or just buy the plain platform and upgrade the most important parts.

[@Mini-z1994]

go over the chassis, apply some threadlock here & there ofc as well. Would be interesting too see this with a brushless 370 motor, like a 4300 - 6000 kv motor on 2s. Feel free too build a monster truck out of this with some hex wideners & a low kv brushless system & perhaps 1:10th scale 2.2 inch buggy rear wheels all around.

[@TomleyRC]

Not sure these single speed gearboxes will take a brushless for long! But sounds like a cool idea

[@kvarndalen]

Hello is the Transmission Drive Shaft in metal ?

[@blyatmaume]

Oh if i just had the money to buy parts to my rc "build", i love working on it so much but i havent in a while.

[@nerdgizmo4620]

Ah very kool!

[@MarcRCAddict]

Hi mate, yeah very expensive but I got to say looks blooming nice though, I definitely need a new crawler in something in my life but first things first complete the new shed and garden or the wife will tell me off 😂

[@TomleyRC]

Man Shed?

[@MarcRCAddict]

Tomley RC oh yes mate, definitely a man shed but the wife will get me to store stuff in there too, but all my rc stuff going in there as well. 😀

[@donaldhenke2750]

is your axles the same width?

[@jperk323]

Can you put the original MN wheels on this or at least fit bigger tires? It’d be a shame to ditch the metal wheels, but those low profile tires are a let down even if they do work decently.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, shouldn’t be too hard to put better tyres

[@HM.Hatchet205]

Will this fit the mn99s?

[@jonlaird5082]

I've been eyeing this chassis since I saw it. While it looks nice,I think it needs smaller wheels with a nice offroad tire. I can live with the square axles as several home built off road trucks here in the states uses the axles off old military trucks,lol.

[@TomleyRC]

Off road tyres are certainly needed.

[@alexhardwick2855]

Good looking chassis but it's a shame for the price it doesn't have much flex, surely they could have given it more articulation. All in good vid and really informative 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, agree. I think moving the shock positions will help the flex

[@MCsCreations]

It really looks impressive, dude! Really nice! 😃 Do you think it would fit under a WPL C24 or C14? Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

I have the WPL one on the way... it has better wheels/tyres and front bumper

[@MCsCreations]

@@TomleyRC Oh... Nice! 😃

[@richardatherton7145]

You should build a dasmikro das87 land rover

[@TomleyRC]

I’ve got a Das87.... horrible things to build! I gave up!

[@johnemil2295]

I need a suggestion about buying a rc car.What would you recommend a 1/10 or 1/12 or 1/16?im looking for a cheap rc.

[@CrushKnuckles]

Just got my first R/C this week. A 1/12 MN 99s for about 60 dollars including shipping, and so far have not been disappointed. It handles the sand, gravel and volcanic rock "trails" I've tested it out on well and even surprised me on some of the inclines I drove it up. Certainly considering this metal upgrade shown in the video.

[@johnemil2295]

@@CrushKnuckles thanks sir im gonna start saving money now haha.

[@TonysRcTechboom]

Looks a nice piece of kit, it was funny when Alexa answer you 😄 great Honest Review Mate. Would of been nice if it came with a Body , Never mind 😜 am working all the time 😭 am on 7 nights 11 hours 😳 its a killer but I get 7 off 👍 Take it easy or you will burn yourself out mate 😟 We will all understand if you want a week or 2 off Bro 👍 we will still be here for yeah as always 😍 keep well 👍😎👍

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks for watching Tony. Wow you are busy! I hate long shifts... luckily I only work 8-5 Mon-Fri now. But this past week the wifes worked a couple of evenings and my lad has had 2 back to back football matches! A busy week for me..straight home from work and pretty much out the door lol. Back to some kind of normality next week!

[@simoncycling6685]

I purchased them metal wheels off ebay £18 ...that chassis suit Toyota pickup ...

[@hellofromsoutheastalaskarc7517]

Hello from southeast alaska do you have any stickers for my rock crawlers remote control

[@620ironwolf]

Welp looks like tomly has a wire tap that wants to be included in the vids lol.

[@TomleyRC]

haha... yeah, she is always listening!

[@modelnutty6503]

@@TomleyRC careful, those have been known to call the police too.

[@M.TTT.]

@@modelnutty6503 most 1st world countries other than the US (that will change in the next decade or so) will come to your house for thought crimes from social media posts more than the Alexa wiretaps

[@welshdave5263]

I listened back and "an let's e"...stablish did sound like "Alexa". Or as Mr Paul Hibbert would refer to her, "she who shall not be named".

[@TomleyRC]

hahahaha

[@davidpiper3652]

Actually, my first question is, why are you in your house and not the garage? Missus away?

[@TomleyRC]

haha... she was working that night, and every other night that week I was out the house pretty much as soon as I finished work. Busy week! Back in the garage for the next one lol

[@M.TTT.]

Instead of the laptop, could use a green screen, but laptop is probably easier tbh lol

[@TomleyRC]

Not sure what you mean?

[@krgoodjohn]

Nice B.E.R.C.C vid in the background

[@TomleyRC]

Good spot lol ... how was your day there today?

[@krgoodjohn]

@@TomleyRC awesome shot what should turn into 3 videos, one will be a "Podcast Style" interview with Sean Baker the chairman of the B.E.R.C.C. (as its long but has loads of details in), one with my RGT EX 86010 - JK, and one with my mn-99 and the Beast, that you sent me as a subscriber give away, a few months back.

[@krgoodjohn]

@@TomleyRC and it was that video that convinced me to get a RGT .....

[@TomleyRC]

Fenland Nerfworks Look forward to watching 😎👌

[@krgoodjohn]

Its pretty, but the stock mn-99s is pretty stout out of box !

[@TomleyRC]

Agree

[@BlvlWmpower]

It seems like stock is the best way, other than maybe a few metal parts. Something about the light weight makes it a lot more durable and it kind of hops over stuff like a suzuki samurai.

[@blackwolfrc]

Looks good but don’t like the axels

[@modelnutty6503]

yup, I like the aluminum ones that look just like the stock ones, have a set on my MN D-90 and a set on my WPL C-24. identical but heavier, black with red pumpkin covers.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes...a bit square and boxy...

[@theminiatureconstructionco4556]

Where's the garage? 😨

[@TomleyRC]

haha... my Wife was at work and the kids were in bed... been a busy week so had to make a few changes

[@theminiatureconstructionco4556]

@@TomleyRC Phew..........😰

[@kcira8578]

It does look really cool but for $141 bucks? That's a pass. Plus metal kits for WPL is also a thing for like $82 bucks which is so much more cheaper lol.

[@TomleyRC]

I'll be honest.... I'm a fan of the plastic stuff with metal internals! I like good value for money! I mean this is nice.... but it's probably not gonna be functionally any better

[@lloydlacasse7552]

You can find the washers on AliExpress

[@kodak_jack]

lloyd Lacasse After spending that much money, it should come as a complete kit! Nothing like waiting up,to 3 months for the kit and another 3 months waiting for all of the missing parts!!

[@skdzgameplays2078]

God them axles are horid, so much better looking out there, and there everywhere... Bad point on you...

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, too 'boxy'