Is this NEW 1/10 Crawler the Worlds First RTR with Cantilever Suspension?! RGT EX86181

[@heady2008]

The GMade BOM (kit) comes with cantilver rear suspension. It's ideal when running a rear cage/flatbed as you don't have any shock towers spoiling the look

[@romeogamit7155]

Yes, and also the reverse roasting transfer case.

[@janaranjanifernando6731]

My friend made a custom wrangler jk. And he added cantilver suspension on it.

[@eastonjordan1110]

I realize it's kinda randomly asking but does anybody know of a good website to stream newly released series online ?

[@hectormarshall8608]

@Easton Jordan flixportal :)

[@eastonjordan1110]

@Hector Marshall Thank you, signed up and it seems like a nice service =) I really appreciate it !

[@ckakka2]

I've only seen aftermarket cantilever kits for crawlers but it allows you to put in a scale drop bed without having to use leaf springs.

[@Del350K4]

Trail top tip: If your RGT EX 86181 is too loud for your off-road enjoyment, simply drive it in eight inches of water for a quieter trail driving experience! Seriously, though, this is a lovely product, and better at keeping the water out than your wellies!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha... it’s got quieter after the water. It must have moved the grease around a bit! Fully dry and oiled now. Socks also dry lol

[@Del350K4]

@@TomleyRC Warm dry feet...lush!

[@joshmcbride7188]

It has that rear suspension is for flatbed

[@heli-man-]

We all love your Orange submarine

[@SwampersRC]

I had the early version of the RS4. I have to say that RGT has really stepped up their game! This one is a serious contender for my possible next RC purchase!

[@westcoastrider3008]

Main reason I can see for the inboard shocks is, it makes the frame flat for flat decks body, no shock mounts sticking up. I'd keep the 4th link and remove panhard, less bum stear that way around.

[@highlandcrawler]

The servo is chassis mounted. The panhard is necessary for its proper function. The 4th upper link is the one that needs to go.

[@latefangs423]

for an in-depth review,tomley for sure my go to channel,for strength and durability,kevin are my go to channel,nice review,love the torque twist reduction transfer case,rgt really up their game now👍🏻

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate. I don’t have time to fix stuff so my ‘durability may tests are a little more tame 😎

[@q8venom]

been hitting the refresh button on the channel for a week straight just to get this review!!!!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha... cheers dude

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Awesome rtr,great run

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@timtheveg]

The noise kept reminding me of Dino from The Flintstones!

[@TomleyRC]

Haha...

[@modelnutty6503]

@@TomleyRC yup sounds like pinion is tight to the spur, and the spur is just a little off center. easy fix once its opened up to adjust that.

[@robbieaussievic]

...... That's so cool Man, Subconsciously my brain was processing that.

[@just4kicks950]

Thanks for the review & IMO I think it's very capable crawler. RGT has stepped up their game 💯👍 cool run vid & water crossing was a nice touch 👌 Cheers 🍻

[@TomleyRC]

No probs mate

[@Driver86stig]

The Tamiya CR-01 had cantilever suspension. I have one and love it.

[@brsrc759]

With that transfer case you may be able to set it up with over drive/ under drive. They may be planning to release the gear sets soon.. im guessing. I think the best part about the cantilever suspension is that you will be able to put a hardbody with a full-depth bed on that truck. Most of the toy grade "1/10" bodies are probably perfect for that rig. And most of them have proper full-depth beds.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, seems like there 'could' be some future potential for these!

[@dazmanrc857]

Was looking at the FTX outback Texan, this looks identical is rgt and ftx made at the same factory

[@heady2008]

Yep. FTX is just the European branding with RGT being the manufacturer. You can sometimes find RGT versions cheaper e.g. EX86110 is £80 cheaper at BG than the Hi-Rock

[@Rockatha]

@@heady2008 the RGT 1/24 is identical to the FTX 1/24 and Element 1/24.

[@denisbarrette2546]

Yep, the Gmade BOM has that kind of rear shocks design... and it is really good. This RGT seems pretty good too !!!

[@stevemdelacruz5602]

They should add anoother set of rear axled make a killer 6x6

[@TomleyRC]

Yes that would be awesome

[@davidbertrand7069]

The Vattera Twin Hammers has a cantilever suspension in the front, Traxxas and Tamiya have several noncrawlers that have cantilever front and rear.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes it has, although more a 'Rock Bouncer' than a crawler

[@davidbertrand7069]

@@TomleyRC that’s true. I had to use a aftermarket cantilever on my 10.2 so I could do a drop bed hardbody. Cool to see a rtr trail truck with it straight away.

[@steptoesons8465]

Cool as ,looks great,I told you it was a good move watching your videos, with different brands and finely a review on a crawler me and my son can afford,, purchase mode..thanks tomley

[@stevemdelacruz5602]

Looks phenomenal! Seen these in add about a month ago waiting on rev!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I really like it 👍🏻

[@jeremymiller2340]

Very cool looking, love the shock set up, this is definitely something different very nice video dude!!

[@garethcopsey5260]

I think the transfer case reverses the direction of the front and rear driveshafts to counter torque twist.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes it does 👍🏻

[@marcushaas44]

Awesome, I'm waiting for months to see a good review 👍 well done

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@stuartmcnamara9610]

What a fantastic truck! It looks great, and it has some really nicely thought out touches. I saw it on their website the other day, really great to see it in action. I might have to buy myself (another) Christmas present! Hooray!

[@MCsCreations]

Wow! Really amazing truck, dude! Pretty impressive! 😮 Fantastic review!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude :)

[@clintcollins6540]

Looks very interesting. My only qualm would be the angle of the rear drive shaft. I'm definitely interested in purchasing one for a flat bed build

[@jaylynch3544]

Nice one Phil it's only the RGT and FTX TEXAN OUTBACK that have that rear suspension set up and the FTX is 300 and something pounds while the RGT is 220 pounds to buy

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I have the Texan arriving very soon

[@radiocontrolled9181]

Very nice truck I like it a lot. About cantilever suspension out of the box, the WLtoys 12428 has got it but on the front :-) Cheers and nice video well done. That's a nice peaceful place to go RC'ing with no annoying people around.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, lovely and quiet!

[@twain772]

Hey Phil! Nice truck, I really like the body on it. The suspension is interesting but I am not sure it did a whole lot to help the truck. I also noticed the lights flickering when you put the truck under a serious load. The top flipping up so you can work on it is cool but like you, I find the magnetic mounts can be a pain at times especially when the truck rolls. I put a magnetic mount flip-up set up on my girlfriend's GEN8 (looks like an axil honcho) and when she would roll it the thing would pop open. After multiple times of rolling the truck down hills the body cut the wires to the lights. I ended up putting a kinetic winch on her truck and this stopped the body from popping up during rolls. I didnt mean to get off topic, That story was about a possible fix for the body popping up on you. I noticed that YOU are the only KZbinr that I know of that has a trx-4 and a yk-4101 have you ever thought of doing a comparison video with those two trucks and then doing a competition video to see which truck is better in speed, pulling, climbing, price point? That would be a really cool video. Even if the trx-4 you have is a sport that would make it better. Just a thought. Keep up the great work man, I love your videos. I have even recommended you to another KZbinr so he can see what you do in your videos and see how you do your unboxings. Have a great day.

[@TomleyRC]

Hi mate, yeah... the mag body is a pain, I’ll make a small elastic tie to hold it down better. I think the lights maybe to do with the Batt being a Nimh and not being able to keep up with the power demand. As for the TRX vs YiKong.... I have the new one coming soon, and plan to run it stock next to the TRX 😎👌

[@hypnos3953]

Tomley with the clean hand writing

[@TomleyRC]

Left Handed Magic

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Man, that looks like an absolute beast! Any truck you can play submarine with has got to be a hoot! Do you think, or have you heard if RGT will be offering a different body styles with that cantilever suspension? Loved the video and info! Cheers bro!

[@TomleyRC]

Not sure about the different bodies, but it looks like it has some mounting holes at the back for Body posts

[@NoLimitRC87]

That is a really cool looking rig to be fair another great video Tomley 👌👍

[@jasonice1584]

Come back to watch this needing a new crawler this might be it

[@NCmountainsYouTubeChannel]

RGT, getting get DOWN, Nice crawling place, too, 👍

[@joefranklin7345]

It looks freaking Awesome

[@carloshnunez]

Very nice truck

[@ragsixracing]

The reason for the cantilevers is to be able to have a nice flat bed. It's the only reason they are there.

[@TheTankRC]

Looks like an interesting truck, thanks for the info.

[@TomleyRC]

No worries mate

[@panzadeviborarc9613]

Great super truck Bro! Awesome!

[@carbonara7246]

Thanks for making such good vids

[@bretzeletouffeur7401]

Very nice submarine !

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, it did good! Lol

[@muskokamike127]

inboard suspension reduces unsprung weight. This means it removes weight from the axles and puts it on the chassis. This is what F1 and many other performance vehicles use. I think the 2021 and up mustangs have them too but don't quote me on it.

[@naelrc4583]

Great sharing & explaination my friend. Love the design. Liked!😁👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@naelrc4583]

@@TomleyRC Welcome & stay safe my friend😁👍🏼

[@calumflemingsrcs2213]

Wow looks like a very nice truck good unboxing is it really waterproof ? Do you live in Scotland because it’s also been very rainy here ?

[@TomleyRC]

Checked it this morning after drying it out.... it's all good :)

[@RCManiacs]

that rig looks sweet!

[@stevemdelacruz5602]

No shock mounts on the arm to get hung up on or to break off.A 9125 front shock mount lower broke off hit a rock

[@scottschultz6535]

Really intrigued 👍

[@michaelnera7722]

That rgt rocks! It's an amphibian too!

[@gords1001]

Just looking at an ftx outback texan. Seems to be identical, other than the drive shafts are branded ftx rather than rgt.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I have one arriving soon

[@thomasgraham5842]

i have had the outback texan for a while now and those wings on the front are weak and crack after a while . plus i took the motor out and upgraded to one much quiter and more powerful one , all in all they are a great rig out of the box , but i do like to upgrade myself , fantastic articulation on them and a great point of balance .

[@vinceguerra1310]

Just some wheel weights and some gripper tyres and would be Great!

[@TomleyRC]

Agree 👍

[@modelnutty6503]

its sure got the torque to handle some wheel weight no problem, the initial weight distribution looks REALLY good with motor forward and battery across right behind front wheels... is where I put the battery tray on the Doomsday Barrage (now VW body on it). tires it comes with look good but maybe high silicone content? very hard to tell in a video, also unknown is "did Phil scrub away any mold release from the tires with WD-40 + toothbrush + clean rags?" brand new tires with mold release on them are always lack grip. tires with high silicone content get much more slippery when wet than good rubber ones, good rubber ones with mold release on them CAN look like they're more silicone than rubber..

[@SterlingStudios]

My 1st gen xtm x factor rtr had full cantilever suspension circa 00'/01'

[@Gadgetmonkey2010]

You need to check out the gmade bom that comes out the box with cantilever suspension . 😀

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, as a kit 😉👍🏻

[@digitalhelsinki9556]

Bloody brambles mate!

[@TomleyRC]

Pain in the A*** haha

[@jonlaird5082]

I was waiting and hoping to see if you were going to do a review on this truck. It seems like it performs decent out of the box. I prefer the green though if I were to buy 1. Oh and no I won't tell traxxas about this trucks cantilever suspension,lol.

[@TomleyRC]

I have the Red FTX one arriving soon as well

[@Fonzierc]

Made me laugh definitely crushed 🤣 . Great video . Definitely looks like yet another great RC

[@kamilthegreat2834]

It might be the first crawler with this suspension but traxxs had it on the erevo for years now.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, and Tamiya for even longer than Traxxas 😎👍

[@rcccrccrawlercontrol7228]

Is this greetwel quarry in Lincoln ? Are you local to it, if so once lockdown over cab meet there for some rc crawling :)

[@TomleyRC]

Yes. I live in N Hykeham

[@rcsendandblast1579]

I could watch hours and hours of this. 👊😀

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude. So more footage coming later today

[@rcsendandblast1579]

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[@ohwell2790]

So, it is basically it is a truck with no ground clearance that won't climb rocks. Cool man!!!

[@TomleyRC]

Less than a TRX4 at the axles, but the same at the centre, and has the same flex.

[@gemstonebrad4481]

Gmade also makes a Cantilever GS02F spider it is the TC model not the TS

[@rcuintheshed6981]

Traxxas summit has inboard suspension another great vid mate well done

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, although that's more a Monster Truck than a Crawler

[@mtcshobby7284]

Nice one! 👍

[@brandonragsdale6219]

Hey since you have the ultimate banggood connection can you get them to make an independent front suspension with a rear live axle truck with about a 10” wheel base... I’m just asking for a friend... 😬

[@TomleyRC]

Haha... I’m not sure I have magic powers just yet

[@brandonragsdale6219]

@@TomleyRC lol 😂, hey man just know we’re cheering for you to succeed 👌🏾

[@liamtablet7]

Looks like the center trans has overdrive for the front tires

[@TomleyRC]

Not sure, I’ll lift the wheels and see if it’s different

[@liamtablet7]

@@TomleyRC ok

[@semperatis]

Looks very nice Phil,though maybe a change of tyres would do better on that terrain.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, some good tyres will make a big difference!

[@sy55legrc]

I really like the look of that

[@donaldsneffe]

Seems to be with IOC in center gears? (Inversion of Control, like the Reely Freemen kit (not the RtR)). Thats cool, minimizes wobbeling. However, it is so loud. Was very interested in the RGT Crusher, but after your video not so much anymore ;) (not your fault, good video as always!). Noise, and does not look as good as on the pics. However, cantilever and IOC is cool.

[@TomleyRC]

I've partially stripped it down and there is very little grease in there. So I will give it a full 're-grease' and then see how it does. I have the FTX version arriving soon, I will update on the trans noise when I do that video

[@Motorato61]

This is my favorite crawler at the moment. Great specs. The only thing that's missing is the portal axles.

[@themountain59]

Portal axles are overrated ;)

[@Motorato61]

@@themountain59 I have to admit that you're right. But we have to agree that the crawler goes better over certain obstacles and is better to have than not.

[@christophershing-hon61]

I am building a Redcat Volcano brushed based crawler. I know this is not the ideal platform for a crawler, but it is what I can afford, for cross platform compatibility and parts interchangeability, as I am on disability and have very limited income. I intend to compensate for the Volcanoes shortcomings in this application by optimizing the tire selection, implementing 4 wheel steering, and using very soft springs for maximum wheel travel. The Volcano has fully interchangeable front and rear suspension components, so all I need to modify to implement 4 wheel steering is to mount the 2nd servo behind the rear diff. I need to source the cheapest available used parts to complete this build. As the Volcano is a very popular platform I am hoping to find a folks that have used parts or leftover parts from upgrades they will source to me at little cost. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.

[@bamgaming8514]

What are the dimensions of the axles

[@jasondavidson6643]

G made boom RC crawler has that same setup

[@ozarkhobby2515]

It took 40 years for that to catch on. lol The first cantilever suspension vehicle I ever saw was a BRUISER in the early 80's. Then everyone wanted them for oval and drag racing.... just to make the bodies fit.

[@MrTomRcMan]

Love your videos and that rc is beast all i own is RGT crawlers now myself knew nothing about RGT until i purchased one from ebay.But honestly would be nice to actually see them really crawler not this few rocks here and there cause then it seems like a trail rig not a crawler and also get frustrating to watch you constantly have to drive in water and mud all the time like actually crawler with it not water mud and few rocks gets boring watch the same videos over and over again you never do anything different with crawlers show people what these RGT crawler can really do so people can see the true beast from RGT rigs

[@MauzyrockRC]

Nice review. Would you be interested in doing a "shoot out" of sorts between your fav crawlers?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I will be at some point.

[@policopaul7961]

I wait since some time for this video. I was curios about this one.

[@kravenkrawlhobby5438]

Gonna scoop one up but have to get my new bank card first or I would have ordered one right now. Gonna put a hardbody on it. It’s already set up for it and don’t have to spend the extra $50 to make it possible. Thanks brother

[@TomleyRC]

Sounds cool... what Hardbody?

[@kravenkrawlhobby5438]

If the wheelbase works out, a high quality D90 body will do the trick. If this works out I’m gonna pick a few of them up. I really dig RGT and their price point makes it affordable for folks on a budget. That’s one of the deals I like about it most.

[@jamaicarctv9587]

wow cool rig man

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, it's pretty cool isn't it!

[@jamaicarctv9587]

love dat rig man well am from Jamaica man real rc lover been watching yours channel for a while now could u give my channel a support please bro keep up the good work ok 🍻🍻

[@vinceguerra1310]

Just out of curiosity, does it have rear indicators seeing as it has front ones?

[@TomleyRC]

No just front 👍🏻

[@marcushaas44]

The box looks like you've selected the fast delivery 😅

[@TomleyRC]

Haha... express of course 😎

[@modelnutty6503]

its good to see that old Samsonite gorilla is still employed.

[@northernlightsrc8994]

I don't feel that u judged I fairly and u were put to break it and it still didn't break lol as a rgt owner I can tell you hands down a great purchase would buy again

[@Filzkiiz]

YesSiRr!!😎😁👌👊👍🔥💯!! Pretty deep!!

[@rcpete7055]

You don't get many new axials in? Are they hard to find for you or is it because they are not free to review.. expensive? 😊

[@TomleyRC]

I bought the Capra last year, spent about 800 on it and love it, but there’s not really been anything else that really make me want to buy one. I nearly bought the RYFT, but again, I was on the fence with it. I spent 15k+ last year on cars/trucks... it’s nothing to do with not being Free 😅

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

Now i want one..... Prefer the green thought, those tyres are different too.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah Green looks good. Have the Red arriving next week I think

[@vinceguerra1310]

Are the axle casings alloy?

[@TomleyRC]

No, plastic.

[@vinceguerra1310]

@@TomleyRC the ftx one says alloy axles

[@vinceruland9236]

Did Ace Ventura deliver that box?

[@TomleyRC]

yes lol

[@mpkhobbyRC]

How dose it compare to the trx4 sport? Like on the rocks?

[@ericchristopher9037]

Wow what a great rig, what motor is in it? Love to own one!

[@skdzgameplays2078]

the tamiya CR-01 had cantilever and my vaterra twin hammers has on the front too, defo not first i think

[@atdakore]

pretty pricey at AU$500, but theres not much competition or even competitor availability, and an American brand would be at least another AU$100 but would come with portals. and part support. Seems really cool, but it needs to be about AU$100 cheaper.

[@TomleyRC]

TRX4 in the UK is about AU$800!

[@atdakore]

@@TomleyRC not sure thats really comparable to TRX4! Maybe a Redcat or MST?

[@randyvalentino50]

Gmade also has cantilever shocks on there 1/10 ultimate trail truck

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, it’s a kit. Looks good!

[@Rockatha]

Gmade Bom has Cantilever suspension. The truck looks very nice but for the money there are alot better trucks out there.

[@TomleyRC]

There’s a few options, but these are very good

[@floridatrailfinders9961]

That thing sound really bad! Sounds like something is about to lock up or break!

[@jonmandelbaum5395]

A coworker says the same about me

[@Silentroller93]

Does that thing still work after going under water?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, tested this evening.... all good

[@Silentroller93]

@@TomleyRC I just bought a stampede vxl, have you ever reviewed one of those or a 1/16 erevo vxl?

[@dalewilliams6594]

FTX Outback Texan 1/10 Trail RTR - Red

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I have one arriving soon :)

[@davidholmes3776]

Comes in at the same price as the Carisma new SCA-1E Coyote V2 - would love to see a comparison.

[@isaaclawson9355]

I don't understand. Why does so many company's especially rgt copy ftx?

[@techspeedrc]

No one copies FTX, FTX is a brand owned by a UK distributor and they just put their brand on other companies products. Chin ed e factories are happy to put whatever name you want on their products if you buy enough of them. The FTX buggies and trucks are made for them by River Hobby, who ususlly sell them under their VRX brand. The crawlers are made for FTX by HSP, who usually sells them under their RGT brand.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, FTX, RGT & VRX are all made in the same factory

[@nathanwhatmore8745]

Like that dude 👍👍👍👍🙏

[@THEMASKEDMASTER]

✌🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿look at the shape of that box 😂 guaranteed it’s from bangnotsogood 😂. Looks exactly like the FTX Texan

[@TomleyRC]

FTX Texan arriving in the next week or so I think. That should get here in 1 piece... it’s being delivered by my local shop lol

[@ericworden9175]

I thought the Traxxas revo 3.3, and revo electric had cantilever suspension..am I wrong...?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes they have, but they are not Crawlers