By far the best and most comprehensive review and testing of the LF Bros heater. All the others give very little info on actual usage. At this hefty price point you provided the info I needed to make an informed decision. Thank you!
@TrailTraveler8 күн бұрын
I'm glad it was useful
@thebearsden170112 күн бұрын
I have been using a $130 8kw..vevor..for 3 yrs now ..absolutly no issues ...van living at -40 ...keeps my van cozy & warm at only 3- 4 setting...
@Ghostiator7 күн бұрын
Great review Kerry! Thanks for doing the heavy lifting so we, the viewers, can be lazy. Appreciate it!
@TrailTraveler7 күн бұрын
Taking one for the team in the Colorado winter!
@OverlandAddictionКүн бұрын
ran webastos for 10 yrs. im impressed with cheap vevor for the money👍
@GF-pc5bt4 күн бұрын
I have the home version LF Bros installed in my truck. So far so good. I have a pass through from the bed to the tent above… I just heat the bottom floor and have ports along the tent floor and let heat rise. Also left return air down below but have port hole to either run supply or return air upstairs. The gas cap is one of my favourite things and the build quality is far above all the other cheap heaters out there.
@digitaldeath18764 күн бұрын
Vevor is killing the game💯
@TrailTraveler4 күн бұрын
Not in my opinion. Their fuel pump sounds like a jackhammer
@Iceman-996 күн бұрын
I recently purchased the LF Bros N4..the narrow version. I'm pleased by it's performance. No fuel pump ticking, quite and it throws alot heat,even on low mode. The only downfall it has no Bluetooth.
@robroberts20489 сағат бұрын
Wow TY so much for this. Great job! How long is the cord on the controller?
@robroberts20489 сағат бұрын
My question as well PS Great Review!
@pdx_angler976014 күн бұрын
I'm a new user of a truck camper with a 2kw autoterm diesel heater. I expected a smaller range of temperature variation from turn-off to turn-on than the 15 degree F range that occurs in thermostat mode only to learn that this is by design. I'll have to experiment with power control mode to achieve better regulation but this seems very situation dependent. I would prefer less hysteresis in the controller.
@TrailTraveler8 күн бұрын
Amen. There is some improvement there that needs to get made.
@overthehillandoverthemount29257 күн бұрын
This is an awesome and very thorough review. Thanks for the time making this video. My question is do you think this will hold up to rain and snow if left outside. Basically how weather resistant is it? Thanks.
@TrailTraveler7 күн бұрын
I wouldn't personally be concerned with it because there isn't an exposed controller sitting there like most units. Since it uses a sealed connector for the controller and power, I wouldn't think there would be any other issue.
@overthehillandoverthemount29257 күн бұрын
@ thank you for the reply. I live full-time out of a Jeep Cherokee. I’ve always been concerned if it’s outside and you get those two days of crazy rain or wake up in the morning with a foot of snow outside. I think I will be buying this thanks.
@TrailTraveler6 күн бұрын
@@overthehillandoverthemount2925 In the spot that I show it in this video, it should be pretty protected from the worse conditions. In a video coming out this weekend, we do a modification to the trailer that actually exposes the heater a bit more to the elements in normal use, but I could always move it back under the tent if I had any concerns.
@beltken16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review...well done!
@JeffCanyon5 күн бұрын
Kerry great video, Question.... Do you really need the exhaust extension on the muffler or can you just use the muffler? Thanks Jeff
@TrailTraveler5 күн бұрын
Good question, probably not, I was just following their instructions. I also want to get the exhaust away from the unit so the fresh air inlet doesn’t pick it up
@DeanJohnson6716 күн бұрын
10:28 ... 600 bucks ;) looks reliable. may get it for my travel trailer as a second alternative to the propane and could still use it for my JT + RTT combo when not traveling with the luxury of fully equipped camper.
@Outforajoyride16 күн бұрын
Nice review. Nice trailer by the way. I have the same one, but have the alpha tent on top. Being a weekend warrior, i cant justify the price of the heater. The “cheap” amazon heaters work just fine for me. Live and camp in the south so I don’t use a heater unless my wife is cold. But, i could see if you live in a colder part of the country where this heater would be a good investment. Cheers!
@TrailTraveler16 күн бұрын
We had the Alpha II for a few years but did not like it in the wind.
@johnrivers939315 күн бұрын
I found that the bushings on the suspension arms are prone to failure causing bad camber and toe tire wear. The base camp has been a good trailer so far. A few add-ons make it a really good off road/overland trailer. If you are looking for a camp shower joolca hot tap is the way to go. You only need to have a hydraulic fitting added to the water hose to atttach to the trailer pump
@TrailTraveler15 күн бұрын
@@johnrivers9393 I have a Gasland heater (pretty much like the Joolca) and I am testing the BougeRV shower right now.
@RobK-q8fg14 күн бұрын
$600 and no Bluetooth app? Very surprising.
@tonyharris19652 күн бұрын
I use a Claymore V600 fan that has various settings and is very quiet.
@TrailTraveler2 күн бұрын
@@tonyharris1965 based on other suggestions on this video, I already ordered one!
@pennmikael14 күн бұрын
I have the non-pro version, which doesn't have the altitude adjustment. I've used it once at 9000 ft elevation and it could run no problem at the lowest setting. Anything higher than around 2kw power output, it will have issues and shut down.
@_DivineTruth_is_Home_5 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤
@josephjackson53304 күн бұрын
Iv been using these since 2014 straight then silencer then stright less noise.there all the same from the same place,just a different shell .& Always check the 4 burn chainber alan key bolts there not always tighten sometimes you may get 1/2 lose enabling fumes into the blower outlet.recuculation has always been the key to proper heat,with correct thermostat propities.AND ALWAYS USE EXORST PASTE IF INDOORS.
@TrailTraveler4 күн бұрын
This is not wholly accurate. We have tested different brands and while the burn chambers are pretty much identical (but not completely), the electronics are different between brands.
@josephjackson53303 күн бұрын
@TrailTraveler I aware of the different mother bords ,& controllers the heater is still the basic & pump. Iv been installing & repearing these before the cheep Chinese ones. appeared ,on vehicle fleets .& Use 3 on our off grid since 2009.yes the extra cost is for a slightly better case & contoler .
@TrailTraveler3 күн бұрын
And pump setup. The Sunster and LF Bros are essentially silent and the new hCalory Toolbox v2 is very quiet where the Wippro and Vevor sound like jackhammers.
@ItsTimeToGo5037 күн бұрын
Great video. Thank you. Check out the Claymore fan. I dig it.
@TrailTraveler6 күн бұрын
A little pricey, but it looks like a winner, thanks.
@tonyharris19652 күн бұрын
Too expensive for me, but great review.
@TrailTraveler2 күн бұрын
Totally get that, it’s a great unit but it is pricey. Check out the review of the hCalory toolbox 2 that I posted today.
@aallan88305 күн бұрын
I believe you forgot to mention in the video, what setting did you end up needing to keep that size tent warm, like lowest 1/3, half or full? I'm very interested in the current draw too. The Planar heater I have on my boat at setting 1 or 2 (10 bars is full) is able to keep the current draw to about 1amp after ignition. I'm hoping that is the case with this LF N2 Pro. I have a much bigger tent than yours which is why I'm really curious what setting your tent required to maintain a good temp?
@TrailTraveler5 күн бұрын
The heater has settings from 1.4 - 5 in .1 increments. We were running it on 1.8. Here is the breakdown of the current draw from a test: 120w startup 4 minutes 105w -115w ignition 2 minutes 35w 2 minutes 10w run on 1.6 120w shutdown 4 minutes
@robroberts20489 сағат бұрын
Did we decide we could just run the thing on low, using the BLUETTI, and cut it off in the morning? I’m in a camper and need to keep Momma happy TIA
@TrailTraveler9 сағат бұрын
@ I run it off a Bluetti and just put it into shutdown mode when I am getting up
@OverlandAddictionКүн бұрын
my cheap vevor works great🙃
@currentfaves6516 күн бұрын
Surprised the Bluetti works in below freezing temps.
@TrailTraveler16 күн бұрын
Like a charm!
@charlesd33768 күн бұрын
I'm surprised with 2000+ WH and 2400 watt inverter there is no expansion battery hookup.
@huf679 күн бұрын
$600 and you can't change from Celsius to Fahrenheit ? Homie don't play dat !!! 🤡
@stevemartineau359214 сағат бұрын
How was the fuel efficiency How much diesel did it burn
@TrailTraveler14 сағат бұрын
it used a little under 1 gallon in 12 hours running it at about 35% power (1.8 out of 5 setting) which is pretty typical consumption.
@1978rayking11 күн бұрын
I'm just curious where the fuel tank pressure relief and inlet valve is or mechanism, for suction pressure stuff like that.
@TrailTraveler10 күн бұрын
The only pressure relief is built into the fuel cap
@1978rayking10 күн бұрын
@TrailTraveler ok thnx , i thought so.
@xtremejms-86326 күн бұрын
how much fuel did it burn overnight?
@TrailTraveler6 күн бұрын
Ran it about 7 hours and used 1/2 tank
@johnr554511 күн бұрын
Thanks god bless
@mikepare558914 күн бұрын
Between the tank and the pump does it has a fuel filter?
@TrailTraveler13 күн бұрын
I'm not sure, I didn't open it up. I should check though.
@christiang437515 күн бұрын
Can you compare all their models? Seems like the more expensive models have the thermostat which may not be worth paying the premium for.
@TrailTraveler15 күн бұрын
Unless it is in a small shed or workshop space, I don't know how useful the thermostat is because it really needs to be running on AC power due to the power requirement. For plateau (automatic altitude adjustment), this is really only needed for overlanding/camping when you are going to be at different altitudes often (like we are). I will say, LF Bros has a bit of a confusing list of products, but I will see if I can work with them on this.
@christiang437515 күн бұрын
@TrailTraveler that would be great, there seems to be overlap on models and I also believe there's models that exist that aren't even on their website. The more expensive models definitely seem to be more geared for a workshop type of space rather than over landing.
@That_Paul_Guy15 күн бұрын
I may have missed it, did you pay for this or was it sent to you for review?
@TrailTraveler15 күн бұрын
@@That_Paul_Guy They sent it to me to review with no contract or agreement about what I could say about it.
@That_Paul_Guy15 күн бұрын
@@TrailTraveler thanks, would you pay that for it if you were buying? It would be great if they sent you one of their lesser expensive models to test the noise levels.
@currentfaves6516 күн бұрын
31:30 Pulls 122 watts. 32:30 Used 184 Watt Hours in 9 hours? So the heater ran for less than 2 hours?
@TrailTraveler16 күн бұрын
Here is the breakdown: 120w startup - 4 minutes 105w -115 ignition - 2 minutes 35w - 2 minutes 10w continuous run on power setting 1.6
@currentfaves6516 күн бұрын
@@TrailTraveler Thanks for the video and explanation - subscribed !
@NoLimit2.0TougeRacing10 күн бұрын
I have the hcalroy 8kw and lfbro n2 5kw. The lfbros is hoter and quieter. Should have just got another lfbros.
@TreadTheNet9 күн бұрын
"And this, MIGHT be my favorite diesel heater". These kind of diatribes are more hilarious than listening to someone grovel to keep his head out of the guillotine. Genetically, humanity produces a certain # of people that will push their Grandma over the cliff for measly $100.
@TrailTraveler9 күн бұрын
And shocker, it worked so well that it actually IS my favorite. But hey, thanks for the comment, it helps to build the channel!
@digitaldeath18764 күн бұрын
500 hall NO!!!😂😂😂
@josephjackson53304 күн бұрын
Dont be fulled about fuel pumps thay clunk full stop depending where you mount them .
@TrailTraveler3 күн бұрын
Some are certainly quieter than others
@charlesd33768 күн бұрын
I find it interesting that people take it upon themselves to contact companies and recommend changes to the engineering departments without a general consensus.
@TrailTraveler8 күн бұрын
I actually talk to other people on a regular basis and discuss things like that, so it is rarely ever just my opinion when I am giving a company feedback. Companies do ask for MY opinion as well. Is there something I said that you disagree with?
@OverlandAddictionКүн бұрын
price dont make might😂😂😂
@TrailTravelerКүн бұрын
The Vevor fuel pumps sound like mini jackhammers
@OverlandAddictionКүн бұрын
@ mine you cant hear a over the fan. but 39 bucks you can put a webasto quality pulse pump on it👍
@OverlandAddictionКүн бұрын
@ if you put a good rubber mount on it makes them quiet.
@OverlandAddictionКүн бұрын
@ i ran webasto in all my semi trucks for over 10 yrs. had to deal with all kinds of isues with them
@TrailTravelerКүн бұрын
@@OverlandAddiction I did, and it didn't. It was cheap garbage. I finally replaced it with a better pump and it was significantly better
@btscott110 күн бұрын
3 Chinese heaters for the same price... stick with my Hcalory TB2
@TrailTraveler10 күн бұрын
You can buy 3 Hyundais for the price of a BMW. Not everyone is happy with a Hyundai
@btscott18 күн бұрын
@@TrailTraveler did you buy that with your own money?Not trolling, just appreciate transparency. You seemed pretty glowing on the TB2 in a previous review.
@TrailTraveler8 күн бұрын
@@btscott1 No, I said they sent it to me. The Sunster TB2 is a great unit, but this one is even better. You really can't go wrong with the Sunster but you need to accessorize it. The N2 Pro is just a nicer all around unit and is complete without having to buy anything else. The question is, is it worth it to you to spend double the money for it? I just tested the new hCalory Toolbox 2 and for a budget heater, its pretty damned good.
@RichGurska10 күн бұрын
At 8:04 you said “expecially” I have a personal rule where I do not watch videos from people who don’t know how to pronounce the word “especially” So I had to stop watching
@TrailTraveler10 күн бұрын
If that’s what you thought you heard, and that enough to stop you from watching my videos, well…thanks for watching 8 minutes of it I guess