Is This the END for Entry Level Power Tools?

Is This the END for Entry Level Power Tools?
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[@Cjinglaterra]

I’ve always found that if you need something but you won’t use it often it’s better to get the corded version. If you’re going to use it often, don’t buy entry level.

[@jaredbaratono897]

You both are correct, IMO. If you only need it once a month, ( or year), why get tied into batteries?

[@heatheldridge7127]

This is a very good point

[@thaddansen2989]

Home gamer here, my last 2 drills all died from old batteries.

[@lanedexter6303]

@@thaddansen2989 it is frustrating to give up on a cordless tool because batteries are unavailable or more expensive than replacing the tool. I first saw this by finding a fresh looking Milwaukee 9.6v in the trash at work, then searching for batteries. Later went through it again at home with a 12v Porter Cable. I find my cordless drills & saws handy, but keep my corded for heavy work.

[@hotbrass2165]

B&D on Home Depot, "That's is not a tool lineup, that's a gift for somebody you don't like.." LOL!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

I agree

[@brianporter4352]

I am firmly entrenched in the Ryobi line, but I did pick up a 3/8 drill from Ryobi for $59.00. I think it is $49.00 now. It is a good drill. I think it came with a charger and a battery too. Not everybody needs a brushless drill or a hammer drill either.

[@lordrichard8184]

Yeah. I’ve been going smaller and lighter with my tools. It’s nice to have access to that power but for 99% of the jobs I’m doing. I just don’t need it. And I’d rather have something light

[@Terrytherandomguy]

Been with ryobi for years I have a finish nailer that i have probably ran a metric ton of nails through it and it keeps on going. Also have the 1/2 impact that I absolutely love just going to change it out when there brushless 1/2 comes out in February.

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

The biggest problem that I see with most, if not all of these inexpensive drills is that they only have a 3/8" chuck. Sure, most home gamers won't need anything bigger most of the time but, a 1/2" chuck is much more convenient than trying to find a bit with a cut down shank when they do need it.

[@RickBoat]

My 3/8 does the vast majority of what i need, and when i need a 1/2 i reach for my Hitachi corded drill that i bought at a garage sale for $5.

[@chuckmiller5763]

I needed a cordless 1/2 inch drill for a couple holes, I didnt think I had one, my 16 year old son comes running with my Hitachi cordless and it was 1/2 inch, I didnt even realize it, started looking at it and realized it was a hammer drill too.

[@everythingfan9726]

I had to watch a Harbor Freight commercial for the 20 gallon McGraw compressor before I could watch this video.

[@Studio23Media]

I was at Walmart today and was completely shocked at how much they've revamped Hyper Tough and how much Hart they had. Walmart is practically a mini hardware store now.

[@romelfernandez7013]

This video reminds me of the car industry and how all these automakers are producing cars that are priced out of reach of most Americans. Ive been trying to wrap my head around this and what it means for the economy and capitalism.

[@prairiefarmer5994]

I learned something today, living only in the Midwest I have never known that menards wasn’t nation wide

[@bartfoster1311]

Closest one to me is something like 17 hours, which sucks because Menards is great!

[@lordrayden3045]

They are based out of somewhere in Wisconsin. Like farm and fleet where I like to get most of my stuff. Farm and fleet have even a smaller footprint

[@eizzle78]

Bart Foster I love menards, I worked for a company that traveled around doing the store remodels. I heard the menards song so many times I would just walk around singing it 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@DougAlesUSA]

Menards owner, John Menard, is the richest resident of Wisconsin. He also won a Supreme Court case, basically validating that Wisconsin is a communal law state, not a common law state. Said another way, his long term girlfriend, now ex-girlfriend sued for 1/2 his billions, claiming spousal benefits even though they were never officially married. In many states in the US, most states actually, and in particular Texas, you can be legally married and not even know you are married simply by living like you are married over time, a.k.a. Common Law marriage. The court upheld Wisconsin is a communal law state, meaning you must have clear documentation that you each understood you were married. She lost, he won, and he got to keep his billion$.

[@0509kj]

No Menard's remotely close to me but I do order from their website once in a while. I really like that they do special orders from their website. I bought replacement parts for my bandsaw from their website cheaper than the manufacturer's website for example and they just ordered and shipped from the manufacturer. Comes in handy. I would love if they would expand and open a Menard's store here. There's at least 6 lowes and 6 home depot's with a 30-45 minute drive of me... Sigh..

[@BradsWorkbench]

I have never paid more than $50 a tool for mostly mid tier ryobi tools by buying in combos and waiting for the sales throughout the year. It can be done, u just gotta have patience

[@rototiller78]

Damn you with your patience! lol keep rocking that NIN shirt. Love it

[@ziggystardog]

Per the warranty on Amazon stuff, add the protection plan on the low-end. It’s cheap and super easy barely an inconvenience to get replacements. They don’t make you return stuff typically and they just send you an Amazon gift card. If you can fix the old one or even if not, you’ve got spare parts.

[@donaldmitchell2146]

I enjoy all of my Roybi products.

[@DKWalser]

For entry level tools, I think most consumers would be better off with a corded tool. The problem with an entry level cordless tool is you're marrying yourself to a battery platform. When you do decide it's time for a nicer tool, it's doubtful your investment in batteries will work with the new platform. Also, many companies seem to see their entry level tools as disposable, so they're much more apt to abandon the battery platform leaving your tool investment high and dry. The problem, no one seems to be making a full line of corded tools!

[@user-qc7me2hs5c]

Ya I had corded for around the house but when I did carpentry I did ryobi just for the fact it was cheaper but I knew it does a good job and no one would steal them

[@michaelporter3555]

I'm not a fan of the ultra low end Harbor Freight Warrior brand but l would take it over most of the Amazon offerings.

[@lazerbeam3928]

I have a boat-load of Ryobi tools going back from the old blue colored ones up thru current brushless models. I had only one issue with a Ryobi tools when I broke the collet on an old blue right angle drill. My favorite 12V drill is an old B&D Firestorm that uses NiCad batteries. It one of the best cordless drills for screwing in screws and general purposes use. It has lots of low speed torque and a super variable speed trigger that gives the user incredible control over the speed range. Although it uses NiCad batteries, they are still manufactured and sold. In addition, if one has a car battery charger, you can "restore" dead NiCad batteries. It will be a sad day for me when these two old workhorses die. When I purchased them many years ago, they were on sale as set at Lowes consisting of 2 drills, 4 batteries, 2 chargers and 2 blow-molded carrying cases for $29. I purchased a set for me and a set for my son-in-law. He still has his and uses them to this day.

[@kurtkennedy5051]

My first cordless drill was a Black and Decker 12V I bought 20 years ago. I still have it and it still works. Its better as a basic use drill but is no longer a heavy hitter for larger projects. But I'm impressed it still works all these years later.

[@lordrayden3045]

Stanley has so many brands, I can’t figure out why they even make black and decker anymore

[@bartfoster1311]

They are the decent part of good, better, best.

[@lordrayden3045]

@@bartfoster1311 But when you look at all the brands they have....... I just think it would make more sense to stick with 3 or four lines.

[@bartfoster1311]

They are following the GM model lol, several of these will slowly go away just the same.

[@yoyodynepropulsion.systems]

The market awareness of B&D is pretty big. They certainly aren't what they were, but people look back on their B&D tools with good memories.

[@tysshed5807]

Mainly because of brand recognition. But they would be better off to clone the new lower end craftsman stuff as black and decker and sell it in stores that dosen't sell craftsman.

[@thomasillinois4934]

Speaking of Menards, I bought the Tool Shop corded hammer drill years ago, at the entry level price of $17 (15% off bag), to sink anchor holes in concrete for a deck project. Thought it would last one project then I would throw it away. It survived. Then setup a gazebo on concrete, shed on concrete, and bunch of other stuff. Drill runs as good as new, but looks like I dragged it behind the van. If anyone can come up with a good reason to throw the ugly thing away please let me know, I need the shelf space to store some dead cordless drill batteries.

[@timraber6575]

My first cordless drill was Craftsman back in the 80’s. The batteries didn’t last very long. It sat in its case most of the time as I used the corded tools. My first venture in to Ryobi came in the blue line. The cordless saw was a break thru for me. The batteries just sucked..... but useable. My wife gave me the new green combo unit for Christmas one year and I have been a Ryobi fan boy ever since. Higher power batteries, the selection of tools has me investing more each year. Ryobi also has a big presence on the TV diy shows. I am just a home owner, but I find jobs for newer tools. I try to help other new tools buyers to invest on something that will hang around for a long time. Buying cheap tools never worked for me. I started doing lawn service several years ago. Now I carry A 18 volt Ryobi hedge trimmer, blower, and a air compressor. I think cheap tools will always be around......

[@losbush]

The DeWalt 12v Xtreme tools are awesome! I wish they'd expand that line a little, but great tools.

[@georgearellano932]

Yeah they I use the impact to take off tires and put them back on well built tools

[@bryangrim6021]

Everything you said here is spot-on! I’ve noticed the same trends. My local Lowe’s has NO Porter Cable or Black and Decker at all. Even their house brand, Kobalt is squeezed for shelf space. Craftsman rules the roost there, and they are nice, but I don’t think they need to abandon so much other stuff. Regarding Hyper Tough at Walmart, it seems good for entry level and for a short time, many lucky folks got a kit with drill, impact, recip saw, and light for $40. That was a clearance deal but all those are still offered at affordable prices. HT make real affordable hand tools too. Black and Decker saved my ass when I was 18 and got me started. I have moved on up to other stuff but still miss seeing the selection.

[@AJ-ln4sm]

I spent top dollar for the Milwaukee 12v when they first came out. Battery problems right from the start, replaced the batteries twice, eventually threw the whole set on the trash.

[@PaxtonSanders]

I am a home gamer. I got the Black and Decker 3-pack from Walmart. Drill driver, blower, and impact driver. So I had a couple of batteries and a couple of tools. Then I poked around on Amazon and saw they had a large selection of the B&D with the same battery. I bought the random orbit sander with another battery -- for $50 or so. I bought a jigsaw, for again $50 with a battery. Then I got a circular saw. Same deal. So now I have a nice little set of tools and like 9 batteries. If one breaks, it's only $50 and the key here is all the batteries, which are wear items and are incredibly expensive for many brands. I know they're not incredibly durable. But the cost of entry is really low. Ace Hardware was selling the B&D battery alone for $49, if I remember correctly. Instead, on Amazon, buy a tool with a battery for about that same price.

[@theteenageengineer]

Makita’s CXT line really has a special place that not many people remember. Way back when makita started making the 9.6volt cordless drill, not many people know that they also made a cordless jigsaw, 3 1/2inch circular saw, and a recip saw. All those size tools particularly the 3 1/2 inch circular saw, the sizes are still used in the CXT line, they have a 3 1/2 inch circular saw, of course they made it way more compact, but it still uses that iconic 3 1/2 inch makita blade.

[@Redfour5]

I am a DeWalt 20V/FlexVolt fanboy and have a nice selection. Great for outdoor work and big jobs. You noted the M12 line but not much detail. Over the last couple of months, I have also gotten into the Milwaukee M12 line and I have NOT bought a single FUEL tool. I have strictly gone after the brushed versions for specific purposes with "size" being a key factor. Try working inside a trailer to do things like put doors on a dinette bench using a full size DeWalt recip saw. Then try the small M12 brushed Hackzall. Same for cabinets and the multi-tool. Same for the 3/8th inch ratchet. It will go most anywhere... The stapler is da bomb... Of note, the newer FUEL versions are starting to look like full size 18/20 volt versions in some cases with similar pricing... What's the point. If you are going to go there, then just get the DeWalt Atomic and cut to the chase with the same battery platform for the big tools... So, you mentioned M12, but for "endusers," who are homeowners/DIYers and would like a quality brand name, KNOW the distinction between the brushLESS FUEL tools and their older BRUSHed versions. As you note, they are making killer deals of late. The OLDER brushed ones are great tools consistently smaller versions of the FUEL versions and on sale very competitive compared to other cheaper brands... Keep your eyes open...

[@PurpleRhymesWithOrange]

I still have a set of the Skil 'slide pack' 18V tools that I bought back in the 1990s. I loved those tools, especially that the Skil cordless saw used standard 7 1/4" blades which saved me a ton on blades as well as being able to cut 2x at bevels.

[@fredrickemp7242]

had 2 of the first gen Makita drills 35 years ago how did up till six months ago and still working same batteries inserted into the handle fantastic tools they done a ton of work commercial trucking company line trucks taking trucks apart with them. Unbelievably tough batteries were well-made didn’t have fast charger but seem to do the trick with two batteries.

[@RickBoat]

I bought a Makita Li +12v drill and impact when it was on clearance at home depot a decade ago. I replaced the drill chuck last week but otherwise i still love them. When they are heavy enough to do the job, they are light weight and easy to get into spaces that newer bigger cordless drills wont fit into. When i need more power, I reach for something else, but these hang above .my work space, always to hand. On clearance back then, they cost me $90 for the pair with two batteries and a charger. (I bought more batteries... duh)

[@christhayer5946]

Not so entry level, but I am a professional who uses Bosch 12 volt. Very strong, good batteries, compact. Would love to see you review them.

[@eggs712]

I remember my dad getting an expensive Bosch cordless set about 20 years ago and how terrible the tools were; the batteries took a crap in about two years. The modern budget brands wipe the floor with the old cordless stuff.

[@langhamp8912]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Today's tools are so much better and cheaper than what we had ten years ago.

[@Skammerd]

It's the batteries. Even crappy Li-ion beats the best Ni-cad of yesteryear for sure.

[@lordrayden3045]

The craftsman 19.2 cordless tools are bullet proof. I’ve been waiting for them To die so I can upgrade, they just keep going

[@sirsweetness8332]

That’s funny, I have the same 19.2 sets and been waiting for mine to die but they keep going for close to 17 years now.

[@lordrayden3045]

@@sirsweetness8332 Yep, And now Lowe’s is selling new 19.2 batteries, I’ll probably be using them forever. But I have the 20v system for the yard stuff ( week wacker, chain saw, blower, pole saw). So if anything does, I’ll replace it with a craftsman 20v thing that’s the same

[@PaperworkNinja]

The only thing in my 19.2 stuff that has died so far has been a battery. Admittedly I only have the 3/8" drill and the tire inflator, but they haven't stopped on me.

[@MGJDMNJ]

I kid you not, I found one in the dump, battery and all and pulled it out and it works. Use it at school with the kids and no issues yet

[@slowblueoval1997]

I'm going on 15 years on my drill with both original batteries they won't quit

[@ziggystardog]

IKEA has a few, I think mainly to put their furniture together. Did I dream it, but I thought Walmart’s Hypertough had a few. I’m a bottom-feeder, so refurbs at Direct Tools and the like are my jam.

[@jodyfrasnelli8928]

I have a black and decker circ with a laser the rest of my tools are hyper tough mechanics tools are kobalt and hyper tough I'm satisfied

[@tomycodd]

Ryobi tools always worked well for me.Affordable good quality.

[@TAP955]

DOT thanks for the Black&Decker tool set tip, I ordered it at the Lowes website for $39.20 shipped to my local store. Very nice DIY drill, circular saw, reciprocating saw, led light with 2 20 volt Li batteries and charger can't beat that deal.

[@scottmorris4914]

The biggest thing to help 12v is brushless. And companies, like Milwaukee, are adding smarts to the tool. With Milwaukee it is their new Fuel line. But you don’t have to pay extra for the Fuel, look for their M12 line that is brushless. Price is lower than Fuel.

[@matthewadams7874]

Tractor supply did sell Porter Cable and now they just carry the air tools. They switched to Dewault for power tools, in my town anyway.

[@johndello-stritto4800]

Hey Red, When are those tablesaws with new safety features going to be ready for sale to public? Please reply - itching to get new saw.

[@michaelcangley1868]

Milwaukee makes great entry level tools. Bad thing is that they charge professional prices for them. Also the problem with 12 volt tools is Ohm's Law: P=I squared R. To maintain equivalent power, if the voltage goes down the current must come up. This increases heat and shortens the life of the tool and batteries.

[@heatheldridge7127]

In Australia by far the bulk of “home owner” buyers shop at Bunnings - they have a house brand called Ozito (their cordless tools I think are a rebrand of some UK brand). They sit below ryobi and from what I’ve heard are respectable enough. I think the thing is you can’t just sell junk in these days of online reviews (if you want your brand to last). The thing I don’t get is this - a ryobi brushless impact is $A200, a Milwaukee is $320. From all reviews I’ve seen the Milwaukee is in a different class - there isn’t enough space there for not only those two brands, but AEG/rigid as well.

[@Chukijay]

I have most of the “newest” B&D 20V Max stuff and it’s excellent for what it is. I’m in for under $250 and I have a circ saw, jig saw, recip saw, orbital sander, drill/driver, impact driver, and light. I have 4 batteries. I recently built a shed for some overflow storage and bikes with these tools and they all worked beautifully. The tool options are limited and they’re all brushed, but if they all break tomorrow I’ve got my money’s worth. Having held and used Ryobi, I’ll stick to what I have until the wheels fall off. Ryobi’s triggers feel cheap and aside from the drills they are cheap, fixed switches. No variable. They’re fine for a home gamer, and fine for anyone that doesn’t take apart their tools to see what makes them chooch lol

[@vane5736]

My dads 15 year old blue ryobi still work and his 30 year old black and decker circ saw.

[@groovejet33]

In UK? I can remember when i was a kid in 80's-90's. Every Dad had a Black & Decker hammer drill, 240v. Ha ha ha. And they simply kept working . Reliable . Where have we all gone wrong? With the disposable world we live in?

[@Bigshoots86]

My neighbor across the street from me, prolly in his mid 40's, got the whole ryobi setup for Christmas. He burned his hammer drill and reciprocating saw up in the first weekend. Garbage if you ask me. he didn't even get through trimming one mulberry tree with the recip saw lol

[@brandonrodgers2479]

That sucks, ryobi built the house i grew up in and they've vowed to never change their battery interface. So im partial. But a recip saw isnt a chainsaw or a hedge trimmer. Maybe they were using it incorrectly. Either way thats crappy. Ive never had any of my ryobi stuff fail.

[@frugalprepper]

That Warrior drill from HF isn't too bad. I got one a couple of years ago for my Nephew who was getting married. He is still using it for all kinds of stuff around the house. These days I am trying to standardize on Black and Decker. I have just found there tools to last a long time, even when I use them outside in the rain. The batteries are expensive, but they are worth the investment. I still have a few Ryobis around, and I am going to keep them going until they die. The thing that annoys me about Ryobi is that they still haven't fixed their battery problem. The Lithiums will run down too low and then won't charge and will flash red saying bad battery. I open them up and put a surface charge back on the cells directly to around 12V and then they will take off and charge again. I did a video on the process and it is one of my most popular videos. I have gotten all my Ryobi batteries out of the recycle bin and done that too them and they all take a charge and still work fine.

[@tccoggs]

If you want cheap, look for industrial/pro grade corded tools on OfferUp/Letgo/Marketplace. With the boom in cordless, there is plenty of corded stuff up for sale that will last a lifetime. Cheap cordless tools aren't anywhere near as good. Pretty much everything I own in cordless I have in corded as well, they just don't get used as much anymore. Haven't used a corded circ saw in probably 5 years and corded drill are really just used for wire wheels etc where the use is sustained for long periods of time. I'm down to big routers and a big rotary hammer for corded tools I still use somewhat frequently.

[@romeogold5367]

My 18 volt b&d drill won't die. Got 20v batteries at Walmart clearance. Ordered an adapter.

[@UrBasicGuy]

I don''t think Ryobi was ever intended as entry level for the consumer in general, rather it was their entry into the market and trying to get a foothold that caused the low prices so it makes sense once they obtained a significant part of the market that they increased prices along with quality and tool diversity. Black an Decker battery tools were junk, especially the firestorm. Swore off B&D in the early 2000's after having gone through many drills. Have they gotten better?

[@j73stuart]

the ryobi 6 tool combo set, for $199. That is a great deal for starter tool and has a 3 year warranty. I know these are entry tool, but the batteries can grow into "prosumer" tools and outdoor tools. I think that is were the smart starter money is at.

[@bartfoster1311]

The batteries are so much of the price of the tools, I think that has driven the lower end prices up. Most all of these lower end diy setups were nicad batteries and died after a few years. You can find them all over but the batteries are all toast so they are useless.

[@orbitalair2103]

I have the B&D 7.2v, these can be rebuilt using 3.7v li-ion 18650 cells. But still, its only a 7v drill. its weak no matter what, tho i used it for 15 years.

[@jacobframe8769]

The cells are not expensive. The cost is high because it is a profit mill for these power tool companies.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Great videos from past to present @TheDenOfTools

[@JeepinMaxx]

I still have that original 9.6V Makita! Original battery still works...

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Fred Meyer which is Kroger West Coast carries a full line of Black Decker as of the last few months

[@jeffreydiechman4632]

Harbor freight use to have a decent entry level 18v cordless tools Chicago Electric. I had a 5.5 in circ saw and 1/2 in drill that I had used for many years. They dumped the batteries support and became worthless. I switched to Ryobi this past summer because I wanted an Impact driver. I’ve replaced drill and saw with Ryobi. They won’t ditch there batteries.

[@kirbywalker5307]

I actually got my first Power Drill for Christmas since I'm getting ready to move out. Growing up my family bled craftsman tools and a ton of them still hold up. I got a budget Rockwell ShopSeries and honestly its a fantastic little tool for being Rockwell's budget line

[@michellemuromachi6451]

In my opinion one of the decisions on buying a cordless tool is future battery replacement. Ryobi has been on the right track with its batteries. Amazon's off brands may be cheap but can you get batteries to be replaced?

[@RollinShultz]

I haven't had any use for entry level tools. In 1999, I purchased the Dewalt 1/2" hammer drill at Homedepot for $269.00 and I used it right up until 2017 before it finally died. That is a long run and speaks to tool quality. However all the time I owned it I found the ergonomics to be pitiful. So even though I have mostly Dewalt tools, I decided to evaluate my options. I chose the Milwaukee M18 and I am very satisfied with my choice. For me the longevity of a quality tool far outweighs the initial steep price.

[@koolBOY8323]

pretty sure TTI still has the molds for the blue ryobi stuff. maybe retool that to be their 'entry level'. a selling point could be the batteries can eventually move up to their 'pro-sumer' green line. essentially sell the battery with a free 'trash tier' tool and when it dies, they go get the tool only variant in green.

[@brandonrodgers2479]

Im a diehard ryobi fanboy, but the black and decker matrix system was gymicy but very interesting in my opinion. I thought they were a neat idea and thought it at least deserved a mention. Also, was the skilsaw originally just a circular saw? I thought i remembered skilsaw being synonymous with a circ saw (sort of like sawzall). Is that real or was it just a weird thing from my upbringing?

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

My dad still has the makita tools in the picture I had to open them and re do the cells but they still running strong he has all of the tools they made then in this line @0:52 @theDenOfTools

[@gregoryv.zimansr4031]

I still use my makita 7.2v drill at times. The battery has to be 8 years old and it still takes a charge.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@gregoryv.zimansr4031 that's very cool

[@gregoryv.zimansr4031]

U also had the screwdriver that they had but it was stolen from the Pontisc desler that i worked st back then. A KZbin did a video about these drills about a year ago. I will look it up abd send it to you.

[@wadeb.5509]

RIP Porter Cable. My first real cordless drill and circ saw. 19.2v beast. I had it for 15 years and beat on it. From my truck to my checked baggage and everywhere in between. So sad to see it gutted and turned into a zombie.

[@mikes-mz5xb]

Still can't beat an old porter cable router.

[@The3chordwonder]

I'm just getting fed up with harbor freight taking a chicago electric or central pneumatic tool, changing the color, and calling it some new brand that never existed, and marking up the price 50%. Most HF shoppers knew what they were getting with CE, but in many cases, all you needed for a rare job was a cheap tool. Now, to get the same "cheap" tool, you have to buy a (Dare I say) "Boutique" brand at HF, one which is rarely discountable with the 20% off coupon. If you go back 3 or 4 years, you probably have 70% less "brands" even though the number of tools is probably about the same. The 20% off coupons are so bad, they might as well tell you what you can actually use it for instead of what you can't use it for.

[@powerthoughtsontools4831]

Hey, Den of tools bear, Thanks for all of yer videos. They really offer the viewer insights into the topics you're discussing. It also starts a conversation of replies that further, the "informed decision making" process

[@josephconsuegra6420]

Ryobi, as a homeowner, has served its purpose. It’s true, tool prices have gone crazy. Good thing I bought before this price hike. Also bought tools during the holidays. I also have a few of Tacklife tools and they really perform, especially their SDS.

[@kshamrocked]

I'm actually like have the good better best within a brand. Gives you room to grow and upgrade tools without changing battery lines. I got stuck in b&d when I bought into when I had my apartment but wanted to upgrade after I bought my house and had to switch over to craftsman

[@stevenheinje181]

Do some pawn shops runs, here is Spokane lots or Dewalt and Ryobi. Thief’s have discovered my tools on a few occasions, especially if I leave in truck, so I started buying used - works great. I got one dog, but the maybe 7 winners. I think could be a regular series. I also found Echo for yard, the Stilh were worn out commercial tools, but in DIY the used tools better. Thanks for covering Ryobi, got my sale battery’s.

[@kb9oak749]

Harbor Freight should buy Black and Decker and Porter Cable

[@timothykeith1367]

Porter Cable is a venerable name that once built quality tools. I use Porter Cable cordless tools but its probably about the same as Bauer.

[@kb9oak749]

@@timothykeith1367 Unfortunately, that has been the fate of many trusted brands.

[@kaleb_barbour3]

Got the tacklife sander after the hypertough died in 20 minutes. I was surprised by the good quality

[@RedWingCody]

1st rule of Den of Tools "Always use a coupon"

[@hightecrebel]

I agree with the Bear, I think a number of the brands are moving their entry/prosumer levels into the 12V arena, which has as much or more power than the old 18V NiCad's

[@shorttermhobbyist]

you can get away with a lot when you just run screws (like me) 12v mil has taken everything i throw at it at work other than it struggles with the step bits i use to install antennas in metal. but when my house tools take a dump, im looking at more budget brands. its not worth the money to me for drywall screws and pocket holes

[@seanc6468]

I actually have a P C impact and drill they do what I need for around the house. I just upgraded my Sawzall from a Chicago whatchamacallit to a dewalt. I used the first one til it literally fell apart.

[@mikedavis9277]

I think when Walmart started selling Hart at $60 they moved bar and price point for entry tools.

[@yoyodynepropulsion.systems]

$35 B&D 4 tool deal is available in St. Louis. 4 tools, 2 batteries and a charger for $35 and free shipping to my house?!?!? Someone is losing money.

[@ckherring82]

My issues were every time me and dad tried cheap entry tools especially battery tools. It was a great disappointment 2 years out batteries and poor performance. Folks taking on real projects like remodeling a bathroom or kitchen. You go fine ill try pro or prosumer suddenly the job gets easier faster and it works. From then on you move on. That's if you are working them.

[@airfoemoe]

I just recommend going up to at least a Metabo HPT black (non-multivolt) at that point. But if somebody is deadset for $40 or less, idk what to say other than good luck. Edit: just checked Home Depot and they got a Ryobi Drill for $49 with battery/charger. That has to be way better than gambling on random tools on Amazon.

[@mikeywalnuts7015]

Thanks for the heads up on the $35 B&D combo. For some reason it allows me to order it delivered to my local Lowe’s

[@ddddsd20]

I’ve started buying into the Kobalt brand, I’ve been happy so far, I hope they stick around. I am curious about the M12 Milwaukee tools, why is stepping back to 12V so popular, I’m not knocking them, I really want to know what makes 12V a hot item now. Weight and size maybe?

[@heretolevitateme]

People don't shop in stores anymore unless they have a reason to go there. Brand names on the cheap end matter little compared to their search keywords.

[@ozzymandius666]

I'm guessing that the higher operating cost and need to honor warrantee at the brick and mortar places means that they can't justify using shelf space for true entry-level tools, as the margins are too slim, and thus entry-level tools will be consigned to the online market, with just a token presence in the brick and mortar outlets.

[@donwilburn2470]

I've got quite a few ryovi 18 volt tools and I have the gen 5 ridgid drill and impact driver. But I started with a small black and decker 12 volt drill that I still tend to reach for for everyday use.

[@chucks4328]

My local Tractor Supply started selling Porter Cable about a month ago.

[@padraicmcguire108]

Yeah, but modern Porter Cable has become Ryobi like. I cherish my 20yr old PC Production Routers and Sanders. When I see the newer logo, walk away

[@stevennihipali3607]

Corded tools at all a thing. DIY tools, like B&D, Hart, essentially Walmart style tools, are still around. Stanley B&D still make great home owner tools. HF tools are great for what I need too

[@bennytorres4557]

It’s not that KZbin folks are making it happen but that is really what people want they are looking for the best

[@davidwalle5025]

I have the drill master nih cordless drill great drill until the battery died lasted 5 years or more, replaced it with a menards master forece from black friday, master force are great products. Shine on Bear

[@theteenageengineer]

😂funny how you are talking about craftsman, just yesterday I went to grab my craftsman ratchet, and the ratcheting mechanism was not working, it’s been in my family for 3 generations, it was my grandpa’s, then it was my dad’s and now it’s mine, its one of the made in America ones, I took it to my dad and he said that we could try to get the lifetime warranty on it, I said good luck because Sears doesn’t own craftsman anymore, but apparently you can turn it in at Lowe’s and get the warranty.

[@JoeBidenIsNotMyPresident]

The shame of it is that the replacement is not good quality. The old stuff was tough as nails. I have some and I pray that they don't break so I don't have to rebuy the tool from somewhere that sells better tools. I don't have a Lowe's near me as well.

[@theteenageengineer]

@@JoeBidenIsNotMyPresident that’s what I told my dad, I said you have one of the made in America models, and they are just going to give you a made in China model.

[@jeanchapman1301]

One of my old (35 yrs) Craftsman ratchets stopped working too, but it was just because the grease had dried out. I opened it up, cleaned it, added new grease, and it works like new again.

[@henrylicious]

@@jeanchapman1301 You c as n also find repair kits on Ebay.

[@matthewpeters85]

I thought black and decker was gone for sure last winter. Lowe’s was clearing them all out. They were all moved to the clearance end cap, and they brought in craftsman to replace the porter cable section and shrunk the porter cable section to just and end cap like B&D used to be. Then last spring they started clearing the porter cable end cap and what do you know, they brought the B&D end cap back and they put in an end cap for SKIL.

[@mitchells7634]

A few years ago, my dad bought me the craftsman 20v set for christmas thinking it was like the amazing craftsman tools he has. So now I'm locked in to the battery platform until I switch out to Milwaukee or Dewalt in 10 years.

[@fivespeed3026]

It looks like Harbor Freight has gotten rid of the 20% off coupon. I recently had to pay full price for my items because the last 20% off coupon I had was expired.

[@TheEclecticHandyman]

Great video I enjoyed it 👍

[@markd2322]

Seems to me if the low cost is the mark you must hit as a consumer, at least Harbor Freight has a store you can return a defective product to. We've all been there, I started as a general contractor with a Chicago Electric recip saw, because just starting out it was as much as I could justify spending. I got a lot of work done with that tool. Worked for a year and a half, failed magnificently and having earned a few bucks, I replaced it with Makita.

[@casualcarpenter]

I think what you're seeing is a reaction to HD and Lowes branding/customers. They are shifting from "professional/homeowner" to "professional/serious DIYer." Walmart still have homeowner friendly brands like Hart (more serious DIY) and HyperTough (solid homeowner), but that lines up exactly with their customers.

[@lordrichard8184]

Ryobi is fantastic. The tools are a great value. And it’s a great lifestyle brand. Hyper tough killed black and decker. Hyper tough is either cheaper or has way better specs for the price point. And it would be great if harbor freight built a proper warrior line. Even if they added an impact driver, recip and circular saw to it. That would be great for a starter line. The lack of tools was the big reason I sold my warrior stuff and went to hyper tough. Also you’ve really grown the channel. Last time I looked you were right around 33k subs. Great job Jeff!!

[@jessewilliams522]

Craftsman Nextec (12v) was a great line... R.I.P.

[@DrThunder88]

There are a few slick deals on Masterforce tools right now that will stack with the 15% off bag deal. A week or two ago, Menards had smoking hot deals on Bosch cordless tools that also would fit in the bag.

[@wolfman75]

Thank You Red!!!! I had a black & decker circular saw, it shot flames out the side. I caught it quick enough that it was still good. So the next time it kicked back. I was ok my fault(support). The next cut it tried to catch fire again, I was like that's it done. Pitched it!!! Went to hand saws atm. (The funny thing is it worked fine outside, then I brought it in!!!) 👍😎😁🤣

[@ontheedge4life]

My local Walmart is fully stocked with probably 12 to 15 different hyper tough cordless tools

[@thedd13ram]

There is one tool from the Kobalt 24V Max line that is not brushless, it's the 3 gallon cordless shop vac

[@northpoint1039]

My seriously old B/D cordless drill has finally died. I think its got a bad cell in the battery pack but its probably about 10 years old. I need a decent drill for work and looked over a lot of them. What I find is that a lot of these drills come with a sub par battery pack. Something in the range of 1.3 / 1.5 amp. I would need several batteries and chargers in order to keep one drill working. So, Yesterday I bought a Kobalt 24v max drill - brushless with charger and 4amp battery for 124.00. Its a bit on the heavy side but will do a good job. The price for batteries is insane IMHO. I also do not like the "Max" voltage rating. Just list what the voltage is instead of this stupid "Max" rating they have going on.

[@anthonygm85]

Skil is being phased out along with black and decker, the new skil stuff being made by chavon is very decent I'm getting some for the house and leaving the makitas at work.

[@TeamWagy]

Skil isn't just a low quality brand. All of their home tools are labeled "Skil" but they still make many professional grade tools under "Skilsaw".

[@GuyFromJupiter]

I've also heard really good things about their most recent lineup. They're not entry level crappy tools anymore, they're comfortable, powerful tools with nice features.

[@themaintenanceman1]

I think the L’s are silent lol. This video spoke to me. Awesome awesome video. Thank you for it. Hope you and the family are doing well