Is this the end of Audi S4 V8 engines ?

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@Hillbillyhiggs 5 ай бұрын

That was my green s4 in the video and i cant thank Tomas and his team enough for what they have done , the car now drives and looks like new , he really knows his onions and his knowledge is the best , thank you soo much and the next job i will get him to do is the diff 👍

@hossein3867 5 ай бұрын

Lovely color

@billymania11 5 ай бұрын

You deserve more viewers. The work you perform is of a high quality and should be the norm across the industry but is not. Anyway, keeping these old gems on the road is noble and allows us to see them in person.

@Dalbayob69 5 ай бұрын

Grind out the Audi logo with dremel, get one company to scan or do a new CAD design of the part. Modify to make it thicker. Then get that design and get another company to print it. There is many companies online where you can upload the file, choose what matherial to print it out and they’ll 3D print them for you. That way when you provide them with your own CAD file there is no questions about patents and copyrights.

@The_Noticer. 5 ай бұрын

Have used this in the past with PC parts too, making my own fan shrouds etc. Having your own printer is too expensive, but there are many third parties that can just print it for you. Especially if it has to be heavier duty plastics, those printers can run into the tens of thousands.

@The_Noticer. 5 ай бұрын

@@DontDrinkTheFlavorAid how about you explain why then, in this scenario. Instead of just making this blanc statement.

@peterjames6607 5 ай бұрын

Can a 3D printer print this part in a suitable material that will withstand the rigors of this particular application? I've no doubt a 3D printer could print the part, its just the suitability of the media it can use for this senario.

@Dalbayob69 5 ай бұрын

@@peterjames6607 there is various materials available. The part is originally cast from type of nylon, the same type of nylon can be used in 3D printers. And I’m sure at this day and age there is even materials available that will stand up to friction and temperature better than the original part. I men, it’s mega expensive, but they even 3D print parts from titanium.

@The_Noticer. 5 ай бұрын

@@DontDrinkTheFlavorAid But you could maybe 3D print a mould :) I'm not sure what you mean with 3D printer crowd, I just had some fanshrouds made for my PC, so i'm not invested much into it. But I see your points, liability sounds like a solid reason.

@neilwharton720 5 ай бұрын

I do respect your honesty in telling us straight what the real cost can be instead of tip towing around, best to know before you start and all clear for everyone.💪💪💪

@kamilianos 5 ай бұрын

The suppliers know who manufactures the guides. If you offer to place a larger order they may see financial sense and convince the manufacturer to make it as special , while they still have machines and settings in place, before it's too late. 25:38 I hope you don't get a ticket lol : )

@jimmytaylor5102 5 ай бұрын

You guys are are very knowledgeable. How about some R&D and offer a VR6 conversion or a LS option, W12?. hopefully it could put you on a path to expand your business. Great work sticking with oem parts as they do fit and work best, but at a premium.

@DSBZERO 5 ай бұрын

as audi tech this type of car is sooo rare in my country

@Gm-pe4te 5 ай бұрын

Didn't know you can also polish at your place. Would love to see some of that for sure. Got a tired looking a6 that I'm fixing up and will be looking for a good place to take it to get the paint back to shiny. Will wait for the update on the green s4 ❤ Amazing quality work you do there 👍

@agrubera75 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant video editing and mechanic skills!

@user-xq5rp9fm1p 13 күн бұрын

Awesome chanel!!! Just convinced me to not get a used high mileage b7 RS4...cheers!

@mickeymini9522 5 ай бұрын

Check availability of stock in the US. More V8s were sold there as a whole and with that a significant supply of spare parts which will be available. Challenge will be the cost to import but could be cheaper than making your own.

@gomora2245 5 ай бұрын

Great work as always. Green Audi, Video@21:13, when you started the engine, liquid was dripping from the silver pipe running across the silver engine cover..

@VAGTechnic 5 ай бұрын

Zoomed in on the leak

@teamemusrcreviews3225 5 ай бұрын

Such Quality work, I love it and your detailed channel, humour good too👍👍🤣🤣

@daddyof3gaming522 5 ай бұрын

There's loads of little engineering shops all over the midlands, back alley, old school boys still going. Ask around I guarantee there's an old Brummie somewhere who can help make the them. 🇬🇧

@jirihaken3566 5 ай бұрын

Ahoj Tome, dam ti tip. Zkus Prusu z Prusa research. Ne jen ze delaji 3D tiskarny, ale i vyrobky z nich. Je to "brat" z cech, sidlo maji v Praze Holesovicich. Dejte hlavy dohromady a urcite neco vymyslite jak obejit 'copyright' 👍

@manxman8008 5 ай бұрын

cnc the part from solid plastic/resin, or use a brass alloy (work hardens)

@SB-vb8ch 5 ай бұрын

Not difficult to design a "new" part which would be fully interchangeable with the original...it's done all of the time to avoid infringement of copyright. PA66 is a super common grade of Nylon so it's not really an issue to sort. Not as easy as ordering off the shelf but these things will only become more common.

@maxick 5 ай бұрын

sad to hear, i loved my s4 b6 nogaro blue, i was hoping to buy it again someday

@aperezuk 5 ай бұрын

HEPU has a complete timing kit, but I'm sure other OEM manufacturers make the guides. INA or maybe SKF should have the guides.

@dp8685 5 ай бұрын

Time to start doing a newer retrofit engine kit. No copyright there and can sell as kit as per what Honda specialist are doing to fit K series.

@kevcha 5 ай бұрын

Thank god the R8 4.2's have metal brackets.

@neilhealey6187 5 ай бұрын

We need a company to start making replicas of all these parts. Surely there are upgraded or at least patter parts available somewhere? This type of thing is making me rethink keeping my RS5 for a long time even though it’s only done 37k!

@j0rzeh 3 ай бұрын

You might be able to get the guide 3d printed in a strong material soon they have just launched a new filament that's very expensive but it's 3x stronger then PA6 called PPA-CF as long as it's printed on something like a X1 carbon with heated bed etc it may actually be strong enough, the other option is of course to laser print it also which is more expensive but apparently it's very good.

@stevensmith2398 3 ай бұрын

Hi, Injection moulded polymers are very different to 3D printed polymers. Machined plastic will not be a resilient as injection moulded as the surface will be different. The Audi plastic colour would indicate there is additives in the polymer. Standard grades of PA66 is white or Black. I would suggest apart from the Heat stabilisation there is a lubricant like molybdenum disulphide or PTFE. I would suggest talking to a plastic material distributor like Distrupol in the UK. An Aluminium low volume injection mould tool would not be that expensive - people like Protolabs Telford provide low volume series to OEMs in the UK.

@mediocreman2 5 ай бұрын

Copyright shouldn't be an issue unless the part is using the Audi logo. You might want to check to make sure it's not patented, but that's unlikely to be the case at this point. Tons of aftermarket companies make parts without permission from the original manufacturer and since the part is no longer available there should be no problems.

@rkan2 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, the patent has probably expired so as long as you are not infringing Audi's trademark, there should be no issue. IANAL 😅

@peterarries7879 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant work as always

@Salmon_Rush_Die 5 ай бұрын

Can't wait to see the detail on that green

@ThorOdindson 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely love what you do and hopefully you have luck with the guide. I have a C6 A6 4.2 engine BAT engine. I don't know if you already have done it but can you do a step by step in doing this yourself? I haven't got any timing issues atm but tempted to do it myself if ever needs done.

@FreeThinkBcurious 5 ай бұрын

I had an 07 RS4 in Sprint Blue. Miss that engine and trans.

@LegendRyann 5 ай бұрын

I’m an engineer and I’m pretty sure you can get around the copyright by adding more ribs to make it stronger. Hence it’s a different design but hard part is getting a machine to make it with that plastic, metal would be easier but harder on the chains for sure

@hossein3867 5 ай бұрын

Oh no 😞I have a B6 Cab. will keep my fingers crossed that I won't need any timing components, only at 47,000 miles, so far knock on wood never heard any rattles at all....maybe I should stock up on parts 🙂

@Rol1Co 5 ай бұрын

It does not only affect the BBK but also the BAS and BAT engine's, you can leave that guide because it is not known to break often or wearing out. Have still 2 BBK to do yet 😀

@thebrownthomascrown917 5 ай бұрын

That's the main issue which made me decide to sell my beloved S4 Cabriolet That timing chain is a ticking bomb and I didn't see where the repair costs would decline.

@jamesward5721 5 ай бұрын

Stuff like this we used encounter with industrial equipment - NLA plastic parts. That guide has 2 "fixed" dimensions - the guide curve & the mounting hole positions. The rest is just blah blah once the part fits. We got parts made out of ballistic nylon that had the 2 critical dimensions - doesn't matter what, pick the correct solid thickness that matches the part & get the 2 critical dimensions machined - ballistic nylon is "Better" than any other plastic, so it will be beyond fit for use. Can't get the plastic part? Make it. It's an opportunity, not a problem. If you can't get it, neither can others - sell them your part. Buy an 8*4 sheet of the correct thickness & get the parts water-jet cut. Ignore all the manufacturers nonsense apart from the 2 critical dimensions.

@jetro7349 5 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly from when I had my E46 M3 there was a company Beisan Solutions that made a thicker chain guide for the S54 motors in those cars. Maybe contact them and see if they can do something or direct you somewhere.

@Rol1Co 5 ай бұрын

The adjusters can be machined, make the slot hole on the other side, the worn out topplate can be turned to another place. Do you check the the solenoids? Or replacing them with new? Thanks for warning, i ordered a few wile it still can.

@craigsolomon8292 5 ай бұрын

Hey.im i. South Africa, Cape Town.so on our old Datsuns things started get really scares..so a solution would ve do nylon runners.and nowadays you got scanners and a 5d axis machines..😅just an option

@xxshellsbellsxx 5 ай бұрын

Billet guide bodies with a removable, wearable, friction surface is your best bet here. The guide body could be CAD designed quick and machined by batch and someone who manufacturers guides can make an insert by batch

@brettski663 5 ай бұрын

Yep will be your owe design

@bilaltariq7819 5 ай бұрын

hey man can you do a video on the Audi 4.2 CFSA (rs5) engine, how is it different from the other 4.2's?

@ArcofZen 4 ай бұрын

I have a B7 S4 V8. I love it, its not the fastest car out there but the V8 burble is so rare these days. I just can't decide if I should keep the car and do all the work which costs thousands. Or sell the car and let someone else decide. It's a really dilemma tbh. What is the approximate cost to do this with you guys?

@coultl6556 5 ай бұрын

I have a mint B7 S4 and did the full timing chain a year ago. That said, it’s not a great engine and I know I’ll need to 2.7T swap it at some point.

@ventouxR 5 ай бұрын

No wonder PA66 plastic guide would crack. It should be mixed with glass fiber. PA66-GF

@extendedOp 5 ай бұрын

I dont know what company's you contacted to recreated that part, but that copyright part sounds like BS excuse, i myself had situation with my toyota forklift, where shaft inside joystick wears out and you can only buy whole assembly for 1000e. i took that joystick to my local cnc shop, made drawings and i had my replacement shaft after two weeks, drawing cost like 300e but now when i order 10 shafts its like 50e piece. Im pretty sure if i bring them that engine part and block of that specific plastic, they will gladly make drawings and produce that part as much as i want.

@Nyx_88888 5 ай бұрын

why not update with the rs4 guides?

@daveearnshaw6874 5 ай бұрын

Hi from New Zealand.You mentioned that long life oil has caused the damage.Is the problem extended oil changes or the type of oil being used?I own a 2022 RS3 and struggle with Audi’s service recommendations.I have always done my own oil changes with good quality oil at approximately 6000 km intervals.Your great content is much appreciated.

@VAGTechnic 5 ай бұрын

Keep it low engine will run great

@autoservisstanic 5 ай бұрын

There is a decent amount of those guides available in my country.

@VAGTechnic 5 ай бұрын

That is ?

@autoservisstanic 5 ай бұрын

Serbia

@danieliversen7326 5 ай бұрын

Did you check audi tradition?

@arfanzaman6817 5 ай бұрын

Can't these be 3d printed at all😂😂 least be expensive fail,Also recovery from east anglia should cover the plastic shin❤❤great video video'xxx the= audi S8 and D2 and some Bentley shims are still being produced that will work on the S4 platform😇 if on dout ask Bagpidy the scout😂

@merikblackmore 5 ай бұрын

I assume it will be just as tricky to get engine parts for the b5 2.7T.

@robgochez4062 5 ай бұрын

I bought an Audi RS4 2021 B9.5, and whilst I enjoy watching your videos to understand the V6 2.9 engine, I'm starting to get concerned about the purchase of this car. Almost every job you do is an engine out and rebuild. Wow.. Is this what I'm supposed to expect if I keep this car? I had an S55 M3 F80, and that engine was so solid .. it was tuned to stage 2 with E85 and in 6 years .. no issues.. I've tuned my RS4, and it feels very weak still compared to an S55

@rkan2 5 ай бұрын

Don't forget to make a few extra if you decide to go the diy creation way..

@EXOVCDS 5 ай бұрын

Customers don't realize how much time is spent looking for parts... be it online or on the phone. You can have a full kit in stock and during disassembly find other parts that need to be replaced. Is my car done yet? Is my car done yet?

@OddBallMotoring 5 ай бұрын

Is it the same story with the B8.5 RS5? I was planning on having the timing chain serviced soon, just saving up a little more.

@tonynicholson2789 5 ай бұрын

Can you not get the plastic bits laxer printed?

@cabottaxi 5 ай бұрын

Check out a company in Aberdeenshire who do custom 3D printing. Pretty sure they have worked with Toyota producing parts

@humanresources2138 5 ай бұрын

There has to be a company that can make these tensioners if you have the specs. 3D printing perhaps?

@bellybell542 5 ай бұрын

Better Be. It's so weird for an Audi V8 Engine to be in this little compact A4, making it more tighter to reach into places.😜😜😜

@Vteccer666 5 ай бұрын

can fit a V10 twin turbo in that space

@Rol1Co 5 ай бұрын

You forgot one country 😊

@mstar011 5 ай бұрын

I am sure i saw that Green Audi s4 avant outside in your Yard, when i came for my allroad service. Ii was wondering myself will you actually have parts for such a rare car? is that the car you was fixing?

@thequattro20v 5 ай бұрын

So BNS has different part or?

@camhyde9701 5 ай бұрын

this raises an interesting legal question as to whether the copyright holder has any rights when they no longer manufacture the item... audi are infamous for their obsolescence

@rkan2 5 ай бұрын

The patents have probably expired, so as long as you don't infringe on Audi's trademark - in most countries there should be no problems.

@BarryGardner-lz8oh 5 ай бұрын

Audi should use the 2.5l straight 5 in more cars. The engine in the RS3

@KaMil-gw2qr 5 ай бұрын

Its in the RS3 and TTRS if I am not mistaken, and thats it. S3 and TT get 2.0. I was not impressed.

@Pixelpeeps-69 5 ай бұрын

Is there any Audi engines which are reliable after 80k miles ?

@rkan2 5 ай бұрын

They are not Audi engines, like the 1.9 TDI 😅

@manxman8008 5 ай бұрын

1 litre A1

@Pixelpeeps-69 5 ай бұрын

The 1.9tdi probably the best

@bat33.12 5 ай бұрын

Audi boss - why is nobody buying our lovely new incredibly expensive electric vehicles? - Audi boss hears S4 V8 B6/B7 driving past - right, lets stop making those nylon parts for the timing chains then the V8's will die and all the Polar Bears will thank us and all the people will buy our super expensive electric cars. Maybe....😁

@fabriceld8103 5 ай бұрын

Hello guys! I have a problem on my B8.5 S4 and i'd like to have your opinion on a call before coming to you shop as it is far away, what number should i call ?

@danburdiek2697 5 ай бұрын

When will these manufactures stop using plastic? There must be a better method of chain tension. Are belts better?

@crztank9298 5 ай бұрын

They use various polymers in many other brands without issue. This is just the reality of German quality.

@agustinrey1505 5 ай бұрын

@@crztank9298German or Audi?

@garethmacklam4655 5 ай бұрын

If the manufacturer no longer supplies the part, I see no issue morally or even legally in copying the part. They can't sue you for lost business.

@cuprakol 5 ай бұрын

Any good machine shop would be able to redesign the part and even better if their car guys .

@Vorrester 5 ай бұрын

Why these guides are not made out of metal?

@rkan2 5 ай бұрын

Should ask the Chinese sellers if they good figure out a good price for jusr the slider.

@nicklloyd7987 5 ай бұрын

Surely there must be an aftermarket company producing these.

@aeroman5239 5 ай бұрын

Tell me again why anyone would go beyond 5k OCIs?

@wingding028 5 ай бұрын

the b7 rs4 is going the same way

@chrispy104k 4 ай бұрын

Pathetic that these plastic parts are now obsolete. Probably not isolated to just Audi doing this. I'm sure other manufacturers are dong the same. Besides, as far as they are concerned it means more new car sales wouldn't you think?

@MeleeTV 5 ай бұрын

China kits ain’t too bad. A comparison video could kill a bunch of myths. They even make engines…

@miceinoz1181 5 ай бұрын

Sadly, at this point when the manufacturer refuses to support the engine, now you have to look into the aftermarket, and yes, this may mean China! There is always engineering solutions, for example 3D printing for this plastic part? I have a crappy old (2013) mitsubishi ASX here in Australia, and the dealers do not have engine mounts for it. Apparently there is one in Japan if I wait at least 4 weeks to get it in and a huge cost ($300 AUD for one bloody engine mount, there are 4 total). Manufacturers are making crap that breaks to force people to buy something new(er). Ripping the public off seems to now be normal business practice all over.