Is This the ULTIMATE Do All Rifle? Christenen Mesa

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[@mattrenfroe1985]

I have a ruger American predator 308. Ive found it loves federal fusion 165g. Some cheaper lighter ammo didn't group as well. However all rifle even pellet rifles seem to have a favorite round they love.

[@slimymurican8246]

Feel like if the scope wasn’t properly put on, it might affect accuracy, didn’t lap the rings or level the cross hairs or torque down the screws to a certain poundage

[@tonystites2134]

sometimes guns get less accurate when you warm up the barrel. try letting it cool down and then go back out and try them again

[@maigepresents5840]

No chance 8 rounds in a single session is gon a heat that barrel up enough to distort the shot... he's likely running a heavier trigger pull or has some fouling in the barrel and needs to clean the dang thing

[@connerroesler3703]

You’re arguing this 2 years later…also one shot is enough to distort it, but I agree he’s doing something or something is up with the gun

[@tonystites2134]

@@connerroesler3703 My comment was two years ago

[@outdoors4life884]

@@maigepresents5840it definitely affects the groups I have one after 2 shots you better let it cool off it’s a light barrel

[@jam5287]

It’s a Christiansen.. lol even the guys at my local Sportsman’s say to avoid them if you want accuracy.

[@racrx728]

My mesa in 7mm mag shoots 180 berger hybrid, 140 etip, 140 lrx handloads into less than 1/2" , even when the barrel gets hot. So far it does not like the 162 eldx but still working on a load. Watching you shoot, that table is a suspect platform stability wise, I would recommend trying prone with a bipod and rear bag, or a more stable platform, otherwise you're just wasting ammo...

[@colearmstrong2450]

Great to hear some feedback from someone with a Mesa in 7mm rem mag I’m really considering getting one very soon. Any favorite factory ammo? Don’t really want to buy a whole press yet.

[@racrx728]

@@colearmstrong2450 probably the hsm 168gr berger would be my suggestion.

[@dougholbert4612]

Get rid of the lead sled type of shooting rest and go with bags and a rear bag rest bro. They can make rifles do some weird shit sometimes. I bet you can tighten those groups up with some bags.

[@gavindavis8520]

Thanks for posting the positive work

[@bodiemartin5543]

I’ve had two Christensen mesas, and one Christensen Mesa LR. The regular Mesa shot great when the barrel was cool/warm. As soon as it heated up, it would open up significantly. The Mesa LR had the thicker barrel. Would shoot a lot longer strings before the barrel heated and the groups would open up. Since, I have sold the mesas and have bought bergara premiers. Very happy with the switch. Great video! Keep it up!

[@beyondtwominutes]

Exactly my thoughts. Barrel is getting too warm and the harmonics change.

[@jarrettm3728]

Yeh i was between bergara vs ca to i whent with a sako 85 lol cause 90 throw actions are archaic to me and don't give good scope clearance

[@DeimosPC]

I've been tempted to buy a Bergara as my first distance bolt gun. How's the stock trigger? Any scope recommendations?

[@bodiemartin5543]

@@DeimosPC The bergara factory triggers are amazing! Super crisp and no creep. As far as scope recommendations, what’s your budget, and what will you be doing with it? Mainly hunting? Or mainly target? Or a little of both?

[@DeimosPC]

@@bodiemartin5543 Little of both! I was hoping to keep it under $1000

[@TOMASH0925]

Christiansen arms have a specific barrel break in process. They have great customer service

[@michaelhill6451]

I wouldn't buy a rifle that requires "break in". That's something that the manufacturer should be doing, not me.

[@TOMASH0925]

@@michaelhill6451 don’t buy any at all then cause every barrel has a break in period. Most not near as extensive as Christiansen.

[@michaelhill6451]

@@TOMASH0925 Nope. Many barrels don't require any (according to the manufacturer). Tikka/Sako for instance explicitly state that their barrels don't require break-in. IMHO, the entire idea of break-in is a myth perpetuated by firearm and/or barrel manufacturers to deny your warranty claim if you don't perform an extremely tedious/time-consuming voodoo ceremony.

[@CHACHIBON978]

​@michaelhill6451 what? Even in the army you gotta break them in. If they're brand new that is.

[@gregturnbow7089]

Love my messa .300 wm . Tack driver! And I had some fusion 180gr and thought I would try it. Turns out the Messa shot it very well, even out 800 yds. Have fun, be safe.

[@williamsfam9358]

I love that he has his one line of scopes but has a vortex on the gun 😂😂😂

[@nathan22outdoors8]

that's because his scope is trash.

[@clintjoseph5832]

I have a mesa in 6.5 that I was having issues with the accuracy, until I took the brake off. Groups then shrunk to .5 MOA.

[@larryalexander4833]

Did it come with a thread protector for removing the brake?

[@clintjoseph5832]

@larryalexander4833 no I had to order one from christensen arms.

[@larryalexander4833]

@@clintjoseph5832 hay thanks for answering! Im looking at getting one in 308 ? I see reviews both good and bad ? In your opinion is it a good rifle worth the 1500 ? I have a Steyr but like a light weight rifle

[@danielholland4385]

kendall, you have to "break-in" the barrel,,, search for New rifle barrel break-in. there ARE LOTS OF RECOMMENDATIONS>>>>> i'd say stick with the 1-2-3 break-in.... first you need to strip the rifle down (barrel CLEAN)... with copper remover solvent (STRONG STUFF) but you follow the instructions and it'll work fine... basics.. 1. copper remover patch WET... thru bore. 2. bristle brush 3-5 times to scrape the junk 3. let sit 5-10 min 4. run a few patches thru with a JIG and patch (till "clean" new patch each time) (no more green) then a few solvent patches to clean out the "junk" then take it out and shoot 1 shot 5. clean it AGAIN... as stated above.. (it sucks) then fire 2.... CLEAN it again as stated above... 6. fire 3!!!! (clean it down again to BARE METAL then fire again.... the idea is.... (your rifle has what is called "button" bore....) this when made creates small "spurs of metal along the rifling when cut.... you shooting then cleaning etc smoothes these "burs" then when you start on your normal shoots (after the 3 and clean part) you are filling those "fissures" with trace amounts of copper to make a "smooth" bore into the threads... once you shoot a few dozen rounds the rifle will "settle" and zeros will get tighter... regular cleaning after break-in does NOT need copper cleaned from rifling till your groups start to open back up.. prior to that you'll just use solvent and clean like regular. once you shoot again your groups will start to tighten back up and the same cycle should happen again.... one day you'll clean the rifle after the group starts to open up with copper cleaner and realize (humm.... this thing isn't getting "TIGHT" again.... that is when the barrel is gone and time to replace (roughly 3,000-5,000 rounds depending on stuff...) if you need any more info LMK!! i'll help you out any way i can. good video BTW,

[@countryboiz3509]

I don’t know some people believe this is the only way to do but on all of my new rifles I new have and with factory ammo I have shot half inch groups with a rifle with less than 100 rounds through it granted the rifle was a savage

[@danielholland4385]

@@countryboiz3509 not saying it takes a 100 res to “settle”. Usually get .25 etc on 10-25tds You got a remember some guns just are not capable of providing tight groups it just depends on the way the rifling was set and which batch it comes from

[@countryboiz3509]

I would agree I just have never gone through that process some swear by it but I just don’t think it’s necessary and some rifles are just more picky than others

[@U-TubeSurfer45]

"How u doin Kanye?" Lmfao 😂

[@gavindavis8520]

Love it Kendall. Thanks for the consistent uploads

[@ethanoglesby6492]

I have a Mesa in a 6.5prc shooting 147g precision hunter and it’s shooting with all 3 shots touching at 100 yards but I also let the barrel cool down after every shot you don’t need to send rounds down range really fast one after another and get the barrel warm it can throw the shots and jumping from 147-185 can make the shot group get real spread out the twist rate and if you jerk the trigger is a big factor along with if your rifle is canted or anything like that

[@frankfree9769]

Razor Willy I have the same set up, Mesa 7mm Rem Mag. This gun really likes Frederal 168gr Berger Hybrid Hunter. It shoots sub moa groups at 200 yd, and at 100yd. Its a hunting rifle and like Roman Archery said they will string bullets with a hot barrel

[@Thrilloftheoutdoors1]

Those federal premium shot good out of my 308 so hopefully they continue do well with yours

[@jimmymiata7855]

Never been a fan of Christiansen arms until this video. Nice man 🤙🏼

[@nate.hanlon]

i’m not a gun shooter professional but being a hunting rifle the barrel heats up quick and screws up the accuracy and also goin from 147-185 is a decently big difference not at 100 or less yards so much but it still makes a difference.

[@JeremyTuck1]

I got a moose tag in maine this year and I was about to put you as my sub permittee KG and I got my first moose in 15 years of applying

[@jeffreyhall838]

I have owned several Christensen rifle's ( 6 I can think of) and they have all functioned flawlessly and fit and finish has been excellent but I have found the ones I have owned to be picky shooters, fortunately I reload so I have been able to customize hunting loads that My rifles would shoot well under an inch

[@joechupp2514]

Did you do the barrel break-in process they talk about on their website?

[@jeffreyhall838]

I did my own little break-in procedure but its not near as involved as the Christensen procedure

[@joechupp4272]

If you don’t mind sharing, I’d love to hear your process. I picked up a 6.5 caliber and haven’t shot it yet because I’m trying to gather everything and wrap my head around the process. You still have excellent accuracy without the in-depth break in?

[@jeffreyhall838]

I dont mind sharing my simple little break-in procedure for whats its worth...First i thoroughly clean the new barrel then I fire 5 shots cleaning the barrel between each shot, I then fire two 3 shot strings cleaning the barrel between each string. I then start developing my handloads but I never fire any of my hunting rifles over 20 rounds or so between cleanings. I find that most of the new rifles I have owned over the past 35 years (probly 50+ rifles) accuracy will improve after firing 50-75 rounds .....Good luck

[@OhioHuntingOutdoors]

Great job kg! You are awesome!

[@todyboy9744]

Love when you post two videos a day

[@sawyerfude6738]

My only guess as to why the bullets would string like that on the last set of bullets is due to warming of the barrel. I have a 7mm Remington Magnum that has the same issues at a much farther distance due to barrel heating since it is a very thin barrel for hunting. That is my only guess as to why the hornady would be so bad. My brother put 3 shots in nearly the same hole with an cheap Remington 783 chambered in 30-06 at 250 yards using had reloaded ammunition and hornady bullets. That is what my entire family uses for bullets exclusively.

[@countryboiz3509]

Few people that I know personally have had good accuracy with the sst

[@sawyerfude6738]

@@countryboiz3509 That's unfortunate. I have never even heard of bad results with the sst. My brother uses SSTs but I use ELD-X bullets. Lemme tell ya, those are great bullets.

[@countryboiz3509]

Ya I’m a big fan of the eldx they work great I shoot the 212 in 300 win mag and the 110 in 2506

[@owendeaton8197]

I have one and the only problems I have with it is the barrel getting to hot when it gets hot it starts throwing bullets everywhere you need to shoot again with 5 minute breaks in between switching to different bullets

[@Dryrub808]

I got a Mesa in 6.5 cm, I did the barrel break in. It’s shoots federal power shok, fusion,eld-m and eld-x, nosler ballistic tip and accubond s all 140gr ,1/2” @ 100 . 3 shot groups . POI with all groups within a inch. Super tight tolerance , bolt doesn’t close 1 out of say 3 boxes. Such light recoil I want something with more umff! But always go back to it cause it so accurate, it a freezer filler 🦌🦌🦌🦌

[@timsouth1981]

Hello Friend, I just order a C.A. Mesa 308 Thanks for the demo with it !!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!! & God Bless

[@usmc200971]

That left to right is trigger control. Also look at the federal premium with berger hunting bullets.

[@warnerdillabough5737]

I bought a mesa titanium and i couldn’t be more pleased with it. chambered in 6.5 prc, the first 100 yrd group i shot the three bullet holes were all touching

[@kencleg7721]

That’s 6.5 most 6,5 of anything will out group others

[@TrekCA]

I have the Christensen arms mesa fft in 6.5 creedmoor and shoot 0.5in groups with it easily with good ammo. I did their extensive barrel break in but not sure if that made any difference or not with the accuracy of the rifle.

[@richardliddle6442]

I have buddies that have had alot of problems with vortex scopes but idk never personally used one

[@Jerry-ez4ph]

Look at the bottom of the casing, next to the primer on your bulk ammo. Should be a brand name there.

[@NelsonCobb]

My 308 loves 178g eld-x. Might try them out!

[@ottoomen5076]

I respect his honesty

[@chadbooth4371]

Just going off, what I saw on the video, if the timing shown was accurate, it looked like you were not letting the barrel cool down enough. That’s a fairly lightweight barrel, and lightweight barrels heat up extremely fast. A heated up barrel has a massive effect on accuracy. I have been shooting a Kimber Hunter 84m in 6.5 Creed for the past couple years, and it’ll shoot 5/8” at 100yds, if I give it time to cool between shots, but if I shoot 3 in succession it blows my groups out to 1.25”.

[@14oftheway49]

No the video kept cutting I thought the same at first

[@jayashworth511]

Good comment!

[@lawsonreid4144]

Kendall try a tikka t3 that's what I have and its really accurate and I use the hornady rounds you were using. But its been the best gun I've ever owned and its my favorite deer hunting gun.

[@jarrettm3728]

Ikr i bought a used one at a pawn shop with a leapold grand slam n bipod for 550 and now constantly preach ab how great they are jus wish they had a hinged floorplate option

[@henryhenry5897]

Also shoot 2 shot groups if u switch over to a diff ammo shoot min 1 shot to foul barrel I find if I switch from one type projectile to another it’s needs couple shoots to tighten up … but shoot 3 Hornady then 3 federal something u just ask for problems as far a good groups

[@tyfly86]

You should do a review on the AM15 made in Hebron Kentucky. Anderson Manufacturing. I own one, they have a self oiling version and a non self oiling (the one I have) try out the AR that needs no oil and tell me what you think. Pretty neat invention huh.

[@marcuskadau648]

Sporter barrels need time to cool between shot strings.

[@johnnelson3158]

I would DEFINITELY attribute that string to a hot barrel...i bet if you tested those same 3 brands again but in reverse order the Hornady would do much better and the unknown group would open up.

[@jwtoutdoors6752]

Check your stock bolts and then ur mounts and try again, then try different grain shells

[@Kp2Natty]

holy darn… kendawg bro… you’re so consistent it’s incredible

[@Adamhawk1994]

I have a ridgeline in a 28 nosler. I love it!

[@jackhoover6213]

I have a Christensen Arms mesa lefty with 308 I love the thing

[@AkaComeau]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video

[@giannicatalano6062]

Kanye is a turkey lmao that’s great

[@petercolantuono3191]

I have a Christiansen Mesa in 308. Shooting hornady 178g eldx precision hunter ammo

[@JorgeSalinas503]

Gotta do the 50 round to break in barrel. Once you’ve done that, then you can choose your ammo

[@cordelmar]

The Fed Premium boat tail 150g always works well for me.

[@alexhenderson3436]

Take all your screws out of your scope rings, and set them back in and torque them all accordingly.

[@kylemoore9407]

I have one and it shoots the 165 gr Hornady eldx match less than half inch groups at 100 yards

[@bradleyvest4086]

I ordered one exactly like this in the 6.5 PRC. Currently waiting on my scope rings/mounts, but it’s going to be equipped with a Burris Veracity 5x25x50.

[@codycurtis1534]

i love my rigline in 6.5 crd 24 inch barrel

[@evanboudreau7357]

Hornady match 6.5 creedmoor ammo around me at some places where you can find it is 3 dollars and some change

[@felixxv22]

I've always found using Hornady is my last resort. There is stories out there of people pulling bullets and finding different powders in one box and even in single cartridges. I do very well with Fiochii Hyperformance out of my CA DMR .308. Those are pretty expensive though, but they will make an elk slow it's roll easy at 250 yards.

[@jayashworth511]

A very interesting video and there are some great comments (nearly 200 comments at this point) Where to start? There are so many variables to SUB MOA shooting it is hard to know where to begin. First use a high quality chronograph or radar system so we can see the muzzle velocity variability shot to shot and box to box. SUB MOA accuracy is much more scientifically motivated than the pop can accuracy of our grandfathers. However, since I have been watching your videos almost from the beginning the first place to start is with the shooter. I am sure it has happened on some of your videos, but generally you as a shooter do not get many SUB MOA groups from any of your arsenal. SUB MOA accuracy has not been the point of this channel, we think you are great regardless of your bullet groupings. However, SUB MOA KG videos would be great! What we would like to see is you shooting several SUB MOA groups or even 1.5 MOA groups out of several of your rifles. That proves that you as the shooter can consistently shoot SUB MOA. After we all celebrate your SUB MOA success then we can turn our attention to the multitude of variables that come into play for each specific firearm and its accuracy. Again there are some great comments already on this video like barrel break in, barrel warm up and overheating, barrel cleaning between shots, hand loads vs. factory loads, scope mounting and the list goes on and on. SUB MOA rifle accuracy is generally earned through a learning process particularly with a lighter firearm. I look forward to many more KG SUB MOA videos in the future. We appreciate all your efforts.

[@FishHuntFamily123]

Yeah. I can't even... Lol

[@jayashworth511]

@@FishHuntFamily123 SUB MOA shooting is tough. Very few people can consistently shoot SUB MOA. I believe there are a lot more SUB MOA guns out there than there are SUB MOA shooters.

[@janssenduplessis311]

I agree with you thy work for my to and I have shot a wildebeest with a 165 Federal

[@casenhumphrey182]

I have a 7mm rem mag love it you might think about getting one one day

[@stephonglascoe8288]

Have the same rifle in 6.5 creedmoor topped with vortex viper scope and it shoots great!

[@bige2259]

Want that sub moa accuracy you gonna have to try several different match grade loading. In all honesty they probably shoot a load that they spent a lot of time developing to get the sub moa groups .

[@iracook5317]

The hornady shell is really good I shot 2 deer with it this year

[@tommyankrom517]

My. Wife uses the Hornaday sst in her 270 and absolutely loves em

[@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus]

It’s only a sub-MOA rifle if it can consistently do it. And it probably can. But like every rifle - once it’s in the customer’s hands anything can happen.

[@kencleg7721]

Check mounts and rings torque I only use warne

[@scottosborne3868]

Love my Christensen mesa in 6.5 prc. Hornady match or precision hunter both under .5 moa.

[@countryboiz3509]

Those are great factory loads

[@trentkarvoski2957]

If your gonna test bullets on one gun you need to use the same grain!!!! If you have different grain bullets it’s gonna be soooo much different!!!!!!

[@csfgarage3579]

True unless your trying too see if it likes lighter or heavier and then narrow it down. I did that with my 6.5 and ended up with 5 holes touching at 100 yards with hornady superformance 129gr sst and the heavier rounds aren’t terrible like the 140 and 143 and 147 they are like 2 and 3 inch groups which is killing a deer all day but it’s not optimal.

[@trentkarvoski2957]

@@csfgarage3579 yes very true. But you can’t test 7-20 grain difference. Cause that’s a big weight difference. But all agreed he figured out what her and his gun likes!!

[@csfgarage3579]

@@trentkarvoski2957 yep, and with the twist it makes sense it likes the heavier rounds

[@trentkarvoski2957]

@@csfgarage3579 yah kinda guessed that!!

[@cameronadams8101]

Should try 168g sierra bthp

[@jackhoover6213]

I have a Christensen arms mesa it shoots sub Moa for me but it likes expensive ammo

[@helloperson1229]

John 3:3 John 3:16 John 3:17 John 15:18 Romans 10:9 Ephesians 5:4 in the Bible

[@chopperduke5998]

You're supposed to do a break in cycle on those christensen rifles

[@Must_Be_Luck]

That's with any gun,

[@chopperduke5998]

@@Must_Be_Luck not necessarily some manufacturers do that for you

[@curtisshaffer295]

You need a Cooper Classic those guns can guarantee 1/2 moa @100 or money back

[@Surferjo]

great video am looking at a AR 10......

[@gettinitoutdoors6763]

1/10 twist is good for anything from 150-200+ grain bullets I have a 1/12 twist on my Thomson center compass and at 300 yards the heavy bullets like my 178 grain hornady eld match bullets started to tumble I got some keyholes but the 165 grain Hornady SST shoot amazing I’m getting about 2.5-2.7” groups at 300 which is sub moa and I just sighted in with some Norma white tail 150 grain for deer season at 100 and it does alright with about 1.1-1.3” groups it’s a stock hunting rifle nothing has been modified and I’m using a Nikon buckmaster II bdc 4-12x40 on medium weaver rings I’d suggest watching tiborisaurusrex videos on KZbin that’s where I learned a lot of my long range shooting from

[@liamdechaine6425]

I have a vortex diamondback and it is amazing

[@jasonlilly8431]

Something people over look often is the scope. A bad scope can ruin accuracy.

[@jasonlilly8431]

@@hamptonrowland9379 just a little something I've learned over the years, sometimes a scope can have a wondering zero , shifting cross hairs .Opening up your groups, sometimes a lot. As far as Vortex, don't believe the hype. Whatever the brand , your optic is an individual. It's either good or it's not.

[@OutsidetheEchochamber]

8” group, the first thing I’d check would be scope attachments

[@garyk76]

Barrel heat is why the Hornady did that where you shot that gun so fast

[@coltonpavlesic167]

I’ve got a mesa in .300 win mag. Shoots a 3 shot group at 100 with all 3 holes touching each other. I shoot the barnes vortex 165 grain TTSX out of it and they’re lights out

[@tomlarue654]

Never had any luck getting any accuracy out of SSTs

[@ethanpatton8564]

Try the Norma Whitetail ammo it’s awesome

[@garyself9213]

Watch the hornady ssts i have had them bust apart and not exit on deer. I would definitely stick to the federal ammo

[@ThehandsomeGundog]

I suggest trying different brand name bullets and/or different weighted bullets, 150’s, 180’s, etc.

[@kristinchristensen9387]

I was able to go to the shooting range to shoot several of the Christensen Arms guns. I broke my back last year, broke my neck in high school, and had open heart surgery three yrs ago. I was nervous I’d miss, there would be a kick, and I wasn’t strong enough. However- I was able to shoot all the rifles with great accuracy! I’m sold on them!!! And no, not related because of our name. 😎

[@lonnynorton2982]

What rest you using

[@tannera.carter7851]

Find Hornady Precision Hunter 178 grain ELD-X and try those, mine shoots them very well.

[@davidharris8327]

Hornady precision hunter performed great out of my 2 Christensen Mesa. Which my guns shoot most everything I’ve ran through them at about a 1” group. I have the 300 PRC & 300 win mag.

[@countryboiz3509]

Which do you like better I ultimately settled on the Winchester do to availability but like the prc

[@jacobfelsing2887]

you may have to send a box or two down the barrel just to break it in. Getting some fouling in the barrel will decrease the diameter of the barrel by microscopic amounts, but usually will make a gun shoot better.

[@robertquiroz289]

Going to buy something off that shop!

[@precisionanglingYT]

I was looking at this exact gun in 308. Definitely don’t like them groups. May be going with the Savage 110 high country

[@jarrettm3728]

Tikka or bergara way better than savage

[@Lawtonfl]

@@jarrettm3728 ya Tikka is definitely my go to

[@countryboiz3509]

I don’t think any one will ever talk me out of my ugly savages lol

[@chasebulmer1580]

I have the same ridle in 6.5 and shoots amazing

[@samlong5289]

Iv been here in gray gang since before 100k

[@giannicatalano6062]

300 Remington Ultra mag is my go to multi-tool

[@chasemoull9551]

Some guns like certain ammo I have a 22 mag that is super inaccurate with everything I used to put in it accept CCI 40 grain jacketed hollow points I can hit a quarter with those but only those

[@smellanalan]

Kendall been doing pushups brah!

[@thesouthernlife4061]

You def need around 180gr with that twist and just find the rounds it likes best and once it's broken in good it will shoot sub moa I promise

[@Sawyer-gi3fh]

The bolt hits the scope

[@aricampbell9687]

In order for a rifle to shoot sub m.o.a you need to shoot sub m.o.a ammo

[@americanpatriot477]

FYI match rounds are not a true hollow point, and are not made to hunt with. They basically act like a FMJ.

[@Lmgoutdoors]

Love this channel video idea gun tour

[@cellanlewis1569]

Made my day and the vlog channel vid was amazing to

[@brytenmartin2887]

I shoot sst they shoot good you just need to clean the barrel after like 10 shots