Is Tudor Now a Better Buy Than Rolex?

Is a Tudor now a better buy than a Rolex? Let's discuss!
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[@HughesEnterprises]

I bought a blue Tudor Pelagos a few weeks ago and got put on the list for the no-date sub. Suddenly a couple oyster perpetuals and a datejust became available to purchase too… they were display only 5 minutes before… I can actually wear the Pelagos to a blue collar factory job and it’s not absurdly flashy so it doesn’t look out of place on the factory floor or swimming in the pool/hot tub. The best part is nobody knows what it is, I know it’s special and everyone else that’s not a watch person sees some random chunky dive watch, not a Rolex. I bought it for me to look at and appreciate, like my Grand Seiko.

[@sinjinadams2862]

Funny how that works!

[@matt2m]

Same now I can get a 40mm explorer

[@markhpluygers2226]

True! The Tudor says 'you value quality', the Rolex screams "Look at me, I have a Rolex".

[@nash9625]

I sold my sub because I prefer my Pelagos, I know it sounds like blasphemy but it did nothing for me. Somehow my Rolex's have all kept worse time than any of my other watches too.

[@HughesEnterprises]

@@nash9625 My Pelagos is only gaining 0.5 s/day which I’m VERY pleased with. Well within even Rolex’s accuracy limit.

[@dfsa635]

Rolex is always Rolex, but in 20 years when collectors think of this specific moment in watch history, the Black Bay will be the watch that comes to mind. Owners who kept them will be glad they did.

[@averybaker1185]

LOVE my GMT. Much classier than a Ceramic Master II IMO

[@mijnbuisje]

Black Bay is no longer a watch but a broad lineup of different watches.

[@ekimandersom4478]

In 20 years they will still be making the same boring watch, same as Rolex

[@user024-u3h]

Rolex es un buen reloj en un 30% sobre el valor de compra pagado. El otro 70% es un pago por algo que no tiene que ver con la horología. En Tudor, los porcentajes se invierten, al margen (opinión personal) de que los Tudor son mucho más bonitos

[@BrittPearceWatches]

Ok! I so, in my humble opinion, Rolex is still a better watch. I love Tudor but Rolex is higher quality. Is it double or triple the watch (as reflected in their retail pricing)? Naaaah! Tudor is bang for Buck baby!

[@ahha6304]

Tudie is Roll in Omie's price

[@patrickjean-philippe7679]

Would you be able to elaborate in details about all the specifics which are leading you to say that Rolex is of higher quality than Rolex ? I mean regarding the following: 1) Materials 2) Machining 3) Finishing 4) Movement technology 5) Movement performance 6) Movement parts manufacture 7) Movement parts materials 8) Movement finishing 9) Movement technical design Etc… Thus far and as an Engineer interested with engineering, materials, performance, reliability, etc… I have been looking for factual rather than subjective comparisons between Rolex, Omega, Tudor, JLC, IWC, Cartier.

[@coffeeboyclips1973]

I've owned watches from all 3 brands, if you want bling then go Rolex, Tudor is very boring and the hour hand design is really bad imo, the build quality is ok but you can tell it's a level or 2 below Rolex. if you want understated, better finishing and quality go iwc. I sold both Rolex and Tudor and have still got the iwc.

[@famosguider205]

I would love to see an in-depth comparison of superior parts and craftsmanship from Rolex compared to Tudor. I own a SubC and a BB Chrono, FXD and 5 liner Pelagos. I wear the Pelagos to work, the Chrono as everyday, the FXD for fun and something different and the Rolex to weddings special occasions or similar to the FXD, just for fun.

[@mad_wisdom]

⁠​⁠@@patrickjean-philippe7679 engineer to engineer the tech differences are minimal. The main difference is image and other people’s perception. You wear a Rolex and you talk about it and show it and brag about things that are present in nearly every other watch nowadays (besides price and availability, in this they are unbeatable). That doesn’t happen with a GS (unless you are in watch nerd circles), it is beginning to happen with Tudors, it happens to Omegas and it rarely happens with JLCs. But from a technical point of view very few differences between the brands you cited. Finishing is a major differentiator if you compare JLC to Tudor. The spring materials (Rolex does use its proprietary Nb alloy, some others have used Silicon but with reliability issues) might be considered a differentiator. Case materials are all the same between the brands you are looking into. Same concept in movements. Roughly the same. JLC has way more complications and the tourbillons but as engineer I would (and did) take a spring drive anytime over a tourbillon which is just a fancy complex way to do something aesthetically pleasing but useless.

[@DennisFutball2396]

It’s very simple. Just replace the Tudor logo on BB58 or 54 with a Rolex logo (no change to quality or features) and they’ll be sold out even after doubling the price. Proving that Rolex trades on their name, not their superior products

[@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78]

I have had my Black Bay 58 for two years now and its my favorite watch. Its very well balanced for my 7inch wrist. I like the old school charm of gilt indices and bezel. The movement is extremely accurate and is patrt of my perfect two watch collection that includes a Grand Seiko SBGA283. Ultimately tastes in watches are subjective. Buy what you like and more importantly, what you will wear.

[@danperkins5815]

I sold my Rolex 1016, 1601, 5500 & 16610LV recently and now have the original Black Bay (Red bezel), Black Bay GMT and Blue 58. Totally over the Rolex brand image (in fact I think it is somewhat tarnished and was a much stronger brand back in 1978 when I got my first Rolex), and agree with the point made that current Tudor watches are much better quality products than 4 and 5 digit Rolex watches. I also prefer tool watches and I think Rolex have lost that market since they introduced the hideous maxi case on the Submariner.

[@VicharB]

Tudor Pepsi GMT is dope!

[@averybaker1185]

@@VicharB Love mine!

[@RabbitWatchShop]

Ouch... I would have kept the 16610LV.

[@danperkins5815]

@@RabbitWatchShop They have gone down in value here in the UK since I sold it!

[@RabbitWatchShop]

Rolex across the board has. People are tired of the outrageous inflated prices. @@danperkins5815

[@lancehatch4475]

I would be afraid to wear a Rolex to my office. It would send the wrong vibe. A Tudor is just right for my office setting. The Rolex would be a weekend or special occasion watch. I still love both.

[@timemycollection]

Hi Lance, If the watch was gifted to you, could it make you think differently about what it means to wear a Rolex to the office? I assume, someone who buys a Rolex looks up to the brand and thinks it’s a great brand and may think others know it to be a great brand. But if you was gifted it, maybe you just see it as a good watch but don’t believe the brand hype. And wear it and use it more. I’m assuming people think Rolex means expensive and top watches. But If your office was full of watch enthusiasts, then they’ll know a Tudor is still an luxury watch. Rolex just has more hoops to jump through to obtain them from the stores. What do you think? I only ask because i’ll wear a Rolex to work, or a G shock, Garmin and what ever needed. I think the stereo type of wearing a Rolex as if the person is showing off, is weak. For example, some people drive to my place of work with Range Rover cars and most with small hatch back cars. But the people who own and drive the Range Rovers don’t send a different vibe. That’s just their car. A rolex to work should be an old stigma. As long as the job get’s done, everyone should be happy!

[@lancehatch4475]

@timemycollection If a watch enthusiast sees a Tudor then we have a common interest and it's great. A non enthusiast probably doesn't know what it is. Everyone knows Rolex and it means different things to different people. I have some clientele that might get the wrong message and others that I just wouldn't trust around an expensive watch.

[@talkingcup]

@@timemycollection Disagree on the car analogy. Unlike a car, a watch is worn on you. What you drive to work is unknown to anyone else except those who you see in the garage/car park. A watch is visible to everyone you speak to, whether you actually show it or not (sleeves notwithstanding). Nobody I have seen, wears a Rolex UNDER a sleeve. Genuine or otherwise. A Rolex is meant to get people to notice you. The real enthusiast would appreciate and probably keep the Explorer under a sleeve, but everyone else and their dog is after a DJ, Sub or Daytona. Don't tell me otherwise that anyone who wears a Daytona, is going to hide it under their sleeve. Agreed that not everyone knows watches, but a vast majority who don't know watches, know Rolex. The stereotype that you say of people wearing a Rolex to show off, is not weak. If it was weak, then nobody would be wearing fake Rolexes to flex. The mere fact that there are replicas and design homages to Rolex speak volumes as to WHY people wear them. So it is not a weak argument at all. It sounds like you're trying to justify to yourself that you can and should wear a Rolex to work. And honestly if you think it is ok to do that, then power to you. But you cannot deny that people WILL think whatever they want of you, based on the Rolex. For the majority of those who work in a people-facing environment, whether it be office or public-facing, wearing a Rolex to work sends the wrong message. As you rightly state, people think Rolex means expensive and top watches, even if it actually isn't true, they are looked upon as such. Unless you're the boss, then you wear whatever you want. My two cents.

[@timemycollection]

@@lancehatch4475 thank you. Understood. All the best 🙌🏾

[@timemycollection]

@@talkingcup I agree. Thank you

[@kalamagz]

I prefer my Tudors precisely because of the non-shininess of them. For a time I couldn’t explain to myself why i love my Pelagos39 so much and find it so much more attractive than the Submariner, until i saw someone describe it as brutalist. And then it clicked. It’s a brutalist interpretation of a diver. Then there’s my Bronze Bb58, which just exudes so much more character in its matte patina’d goodness. That said, im still craving a fluted bezel white gold green palm datejust on a blingy jubilee. Lightplay goodness. ✨

[@DennisFutball2396]

Agreed. Shininess is for women. Men’s watches should have zero polished surfaces. I.E. my omega railmaster denim

[@avarmauk]

I own 2 BB58s and also a Rolex Pepsi GMT. I must say of course the Pepsi is a "better" watch. Better quality build, better finishing (although not perfect under a loupe), looks are subjective (so can't comment), has more presence, more recognisable (if you like that kind of thing) and the brand has contributed a lot to the watch world. But hands down the watch that is more "worth" it is ,the Tudor. It's less flashy, its a workhorse, robust and still very beautiful. I believe the modern Tudors are what Rolex used to be. But by far the biggest turn off for Rolex is the hoops you have to jump through to obtain one. I know it is supply and demand, but the idea of saving up to buy a Rolex or buying one for achieving some major milestone in life has gone and that feels shit.

[@danwillis4229]

I'm lucky enough to have a Tudor Black Bay - Harrods Edition (Green Bezel), I absolutely love it. It goes under the radar but its special and not many people know much about it. I also recently picked up a Rolex DateJust 41 (fluted bezel, jubilee) which I love but its just too flashy to wear everyday... I'll never sell my Tudor but I would sell my Rolex, which is saying something!

[@phil9979]

If the 54 swapped out the gilt for white on the dial, I’d be sold.

[@philspencelayh5464]

Absolutely a better buy, no way is Rolex worth the asking price or the hoops you have to jump through to be allowed to buy one.

[@barrybryson506]

You got that right and I own a Rolex. I have a date just and wanted a no date sub. My AD said it would be around 4 years to get one. I SAID 4 YEARS!! So I went all the way and said how about a Daytona and he said a little under 15 years!! I just don't understand it

[@andywilliams4887]

I will have owned my Rolex 16610 Sub Date for 21 years this July and its been all over the world on my wrist. I also have the Black and Blue versions of the BB58 which I love to bits. Aside from the more robust bracelet on the Tudors, the Sub's 3135 movement is still sublime with the crown and winding super smooth. Even on this now almost 'vintage' watch the finishing and polish is still better than the BB58s IMO. Also, I will be interested to see how well the Tudors' perform when they've clocked up a few more wrist-wearing years.

[@robertcalton9198]

21 years ago you could walk into a dealer and walk out with a Sub a reasonable - if not discounted - price.

[@scott7841]

Andrew mentioned something in the video that I've thought many times over. And that is, if Rolex watches were still readily available (as they were not that many years ago), would they still have the same demand? They are great watches, but I don't think so! It's the hysteria that triggered this new level of exclusivity. So now they've became investment pieces for some people. And some of these buyers could care less about the actual watches.

[@IFlipRizla]

If you were to remove the labels and did a blind test with non-watch people I guarantee it would be a pretty even split just based on looks, feel and design.

[@dannyg6592]

I have a Tudor BB58 and a Rolex Submariner 126610LV. Love them both. The Tudor is 80% as good as the Sub for one third the price. Of course, the Sub has insane resale value so that does throw a wrench in the value equation. Cheers!

[@brett233]

Well you can’t buy a Sub new so that resale value is what you’ll have to pay to get one. Also Tudor not having good resale value means you can find one lightly used for even less. A BB58 on bracelet is around $3k used vs $11k-$12k for a newer Sub. So getting 80% of a Rolex for 25% the price is insane value.

[@dannyg6592]

@@brett233 I bought my Submariner a year ago at retail from my Rolex AD. It is now worth 60 percent more than I paid for it (and that is after grey prices fell significantly). Excellent return on investment.

[@OneLordeAnimeClips]

@@dannyg6592 You’re one of the lucky ones. A buddy of mine has been on a waitlist for a no-date sub for 2 years now. Yet another friend was able to walk in and grab one in London. It’s all just a game of luck, which is the main thing deterring people from getting Rolex’s. Plus if you’re looking to get money out of it and you’re not actually going to wear it, you’re part of the problem.

[@dannyg6592]

@@OneLordeAnimeClips I have a great AD and I am planning to pass this Sub down to my son after I am gone. Just nice to know it has gone up in value as it was the most expensive watch I’ve ever purchased. Cheers!

[@Mega-zi7ys]

It's not as good as a sub

[@Treetopflyer777]

I own both Rolex and Tudor. 9 times out of 10 I’ll wear my Tudor around the world (I travel for work). There’s the “you get mugged and /or killed for your Rolex” factor that I cannot ignore. Totally takes the enjoyment out of it for me.

[@Chenxi_love_music_fairy]

Let me elaborate a little about why I consider Tudor has more values than Rolex from an owner perspective. About 14 years ago around 2009. I was given a chance to buy a Rolex GMT with two tones with price tag around 8k. And this was the pre-ceramic GMT version. Yesterday I just bought a Tudor BB chrono two tones golden panda. It is a beautiful beast. This Tudor has a more complicated and beautiful chrono movement as compared to GMT movement. While its price is not expensive as the pre-ceramic GMT. The chrono is also considered to be more useful than GMT. Therefore to a watch collector, Tudor has come with more values than Rolex.

[@derekeboyd]

You'd be hard pressed to find a better deal on an amazing watch than a 2nd hand BB58 right now. They're probably the most affordable they'll ever be!

[@derekeboyd]

@Mr Mr that’s about where they are on the watchexchange subreddit. $2700ish worn, $2900ish unworn.

[@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78]

Someday we'll look back and wish we could buy them again for that price.

[@williamgoggin3633]

Brilliant answer dude

[@averybaker1185]

Copped a 2022 GMT for $2500. Never again I bet

[@derekeboyd]

@@averybaker1185 that’s a smokin deal. I almost got a GMT instead of a 58, but the Navy Blue 58 won me over. One day I’ll get a GMT.

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Loved this show lads!

[@donttalktome4696]

Just bought a 1926. Love my watch.

[@Andy5kp]

“Is Tudor the Columns to Rolex’s Tetris”. Brilliant analogy… I’ll be stealing that for comparing all sorts of things 😂

[@neilcoll4444]

Ironically, here in Montreal we have 3 Tudor Ad's and not one of them has the new 41mm Black Bay:(

[@richardnedbalek1968]

Please touch more on each brand’s sales and service experience, the warranty, and the ease of selling off each watch in future comparisons.

[@stupidocanerosa]

Oh, finally some Rolex talk on this channel.

[@jasonhindle4054]

As a massive Tetris fan, I just want to say I loved playing Columns on my Game Gear.

[@MaartenAnna]

If the BB54 would have a snowflake seconds hand, and if the BB Chrono were 1mm smaller width and 2mm thinner, I'd buy both (for less than a Daytona).

[@TheSpoovy]

Rolexes are still nice but foolish money for what they are. I don't enjoy being taken for a mug any more than I enjoy actually being mugged, which would probably also happen if I bought one. Tudor is clearly the brand to go for now for discerning buyers.

[@terencefairweather6535]

After trying a Rolex, Absolutely agree!

[@walkerb1734]

I own both a Sub and a Bb58. I seldom wear my sub anymore because the Tudor is just darn near perfect

[@ABritishRefugeeinChina]

Watching this channel, you'd think there were only two watch brands in the World.

[@weAllCin]

Good.

[@xJuiceNationx]

“Tudor has retained a tool watch functional approach” yep and that’s why I want a Tudor.

[@krasnaludek298]

I prefer the style of Tudor, so that’s a big YES for me. Plenty of Rolex replicas from China that are indistinguishable from the Swiss made timepieces & fraction the price. The Chinese version is the only Rolex I’d buy, as I’m not spending $20K.

[@avarmauk]

A very valid point and one that is often overlooked. I live in Asia and let me tell you, every other person is wearing a "Rolex" and I'm pretty sure a large percentage of them are fake. Whereas when you see a Tudor, you're pretty sure its a real watch. I do like Rolex and do own one, but I own 3 Tudor's because they are more wearable, have excellent build quality and don't attract too much attention, which I like.

[@Eliminator-rl9sn]

Very interesting video, thank you. I own a Submariner from 2002 and was recently at an AD to try out a new GMT Master II Pepsi. I made exactly the experience as described here. The Pepsi is shouting: LOOK HERE I AM A ROLEX!.....I am now looking for an older reference with aluminum bezel in black. The newer Rolex models do really shine even from a distance...I got also a Tudor heritage which I like very much due to its vintage look...

[@alunjones2550]

Wow! I just had a dream where I watched a KZbin video about luxury watches and no one said "Tudor" or "Rolex". It must have been a dream as it never seems to happen in reality!!!!!! 🤨

[@michaelriera6277]

That’s because these are not “real” journalists otherwise they would give air time to the hundreds of better brands that get ignored. Rolex truly is the ultimate marketing machine and all these KZbinrs are only out for clicks.

[@derekbrettell8121]

Rolex is far superior. Its not even close. Tudor is a good entry level brand with nice vintage inspired Rolex models of the past. Not hating on Tudor but thats what it is.

[@iliacholakov5926]

I love divers with ceramic bezels... and i will be happy if Tudor start to give an option for ceramic bezel too .

[@Valera_Scotland]

If you want a Rolex, get a Rolex. Tudor is good but it won't scratch that itch

[@mrmr-vr7vh]

Rolex does not generate an itch for me. Tudor Models did.

[@Valera_Scotland]

@@mrmr-vr7vhthat's probably a very popular opinion. I don't like most Rolex, but I'm hoping to get the Explorer 36mm

[@maxp5422]

Pelagos 39 for me

[@curtbrown7718]

“The ideal world of abundance.” Bravo, Tom!

[@tiegoz]

Why is it that when we speak about a Rolex or Tudor watch the conversation is limited to those two brands, whereas discuss any other watch and you tend to have a wider conversation appreciating the watch for what it is in relation to all other brands.

[@bullnose01]

My 1680 Submariner is significantly more wearable than the 116610. It melds to the wrist. The newer Submariners occupy the wrist.

[@dnromeoalphayankee13]

I have the BB GMT SG Tudor and I like it more than any Rolex GMT. On the other hand, I have a Skydweller SG Black and a steel Seadweller. These are better than any Tudors.

[@kevincorkery6292]

Buy the Breitling B01 chronomat, it’s available and affordable instead of the Daytona.

[@xavious5017]

Wonderful watch and much better looking, IMO!

[@michaelriera6277]

The Breitling is a gorgeous beast!

[@Indiana_Jones-h5l]

What’s wrong with Casio G-Shock?

[@kevincorkery6292]

Certainly available and the new BB 41 red bezel has the Mesas certification so why not , 4400 vs. 13,000.

[@michaelriera6277]

Just saw the new BB41 and it is a beautiful chunk of watch. Love it.

[@ogramail]

Loved to hear your friendly controversy! I do agree with you Andrew and I just bought the BB54 at last! I am not moved by the Daytona and much prefer my Zenith El Primero 36000 vph...which makes me tend to be a nostalgic old fart...

[@ogramail]

And I have the BB54 on my wrist at last! What a stunner!

[@GMack17]

The new metas bb 41 would be a better buy than the sub if the bezel was ceramic.

[@mikehoh8328]

My choice would be the Pelagos 39 all day long.

[@williamgoggin3633]

Me too great watch

[@rapaladude]

I had full intentions of buy another Rolex. I went to an AD to check them out. They're also a Tudor AD. I was drawn to them far more, and I had the money for the Rolex. Waiting on my Black Bay 36 with the anthracite dial, now. I think they blew it outta the water with that one.

[@robh.2400]

I strongly prefer the less blingy look of the BB line, and bought a BB58 for that reason (not for availability, or nostalgia). Modern Rolex is just too shiny and flashy for me.

[@Dphilli82]

Rolex are aesthetically nicer and more intricate in detail 100%..However, the Tudor workmanship easily competes. Gutted I couldn’t get a Rolex…but I’m happy to save £4-5k to own a watch I love….and will use the change to buy something more fun.!

[@Jackfergie]

I got a Pelagos LHD a few months ago and have never looked back. Wearing a watch on my right wrist as it is, the LHD has always appealed. The comparable Rolex is the 126720VTNR but you have more chance of winning the lottery than getting your hands on one of them at MSRP. The difference in ADs is much preferred too. I wandered into the Tudor AD, saw it in the display cabinet, bought it. No purchase history, no schmoozing, no waitlists or any other sort of game you have to play to get a Rolex nowadays. Having said that, whilst I like the chunkiness of the LHD, if it was shade thinner, it would be perfect. but overall, very robust and glad I managed to finally find one in an AD. Just need more manufacturer's to make destro watches now to cater for us lefties!

[@OuijTube]

Yes. It is more perfect to exist than not to exist. The watch that’s nice that you can have is better than the one that you can’t.

[@brentabdullah4114]

I know watch guys can get caught up in one upping each other, but aren't you tired of Rolex. I think the Tudor Black Bay is a watch Rolex wish it could still make, but now it has to have this old man bifocal on it and it has to be overpolished. The Black Bay is almost a perfect watch. The sizes are spot on and the vintage finish is dialed perfectly. I don't love the treaded links and wish they were smooth riveted like the Rolex, but outside of that I don't understand paying a 4x premium for the Submariner. If your watch is about ego and look at me, then obvious you want the Rolex. If you want a better looking watch and a chuckle at the guy who thinks he needs to pay too much for his watch, then the Tudor is by far the best bang for the buck. I want a Rolex, but I'm embarrassed to be taken when there are better options for less.

[@dude...are-you-sure]

Rolex fan boys will always be just that. They can take that very minor 'improvement' that Rolex makes when they introduce the new generation to an existing model and write a book of praises on how that minor detail has changed the watch and made it leaps and bounds better than the previous generation.

[@marty197666]

I love my Tudor panda chrono. To be perfect I’d prefer a thinner watch and micro adjust on the bracelet

[@tungstencalais3201]

I actually don't mind the thickness of my panda chrono. And surprisingly the lug-to-lug of about 50mm is still fine on my 6.5in wrist - I think the size will actually suit most wrists. Agree about micro adjust - the T-fit clasp on it would be a complete game changer.

[@davidfruge2229]

For myself, I’m very nostalgic and I like the look of the tutor. It is hard to overlook that Rolex prestige.

[@vaughngaminghd]

Rolex has become too flashy / status-oriented / jewelry-like for me. Tudor had the quality I wanted in a mechanical movement with less risk of being murdered for my timepiece… Plus, saved $15k!

[@TheAgeRating]

Okay need some help… deciding between two omega seamaster 300m in green or bb58 black… not sure on the omega bracelet … help!

[@michaelriera6277]

Similar situation. I opted for the BB58 black based on wear(lighter with a more comfortable bracelet 6.5 wrist), loved the look of the gilted bezel and dial with the pop of red, elegant coin edge bezel/ crown vs more toolish Seamaster. If the Seamaster were a bit smaller or had thinner bracelet I might have gone with the Seamaster. Both great watches.

[@TheAgeRating]

@@michaelriera6277 yeah always had a soft spot for the bb58 so maybe I should go with my first true watch love haha! The seamaster in green on the rubber strap was lovely but would need get the bracelet then get rubber separately 💭 . Appreciate your reply 👍

[@joshuakaplan5726]

I fully believe that tudor if today is rolex of years ago. Rolex used to be no-nonsense, highly reliable/robust, non-flashy tool watches, at an expensive but still reasonable price range, and were attainable and available. Now they are more shiny, luxurious, and more jewelry than used for its intended purposes, at insane prices and unobtainable and unavailable. Tudor is now making the no-nonsense tool watches in the "affordable" luxury price range. Rolex is more status symbol today than actual tool watch, tudor is more tool watch than status symbol. It makes more sense to take the $4k Pro hiking and spelunking than it does the 10K Explorer 2. Same goes for the ranger, or diving with a 4K black bay vice a 10K sub.

[@hittingreens5646]

I have a 5 digit sports model Rolex and just picked up the BB54. I must say the BB54 is a much higher quality watch. I now daily the BB54 and wear my Rolex once or twice every couple weeks. Shockingly I've had more people ask about my Tudor in the last month than my 16570 in 3 years.

[@michaelriera6277]

That’s amazing! When all these people ask about your Tudor, what do they say? Just curious as I’ve had a BB58 (which I love) and no one has ever mentioned it. On the other hand I have a Rolex Explorer 36 124270 for a year and have had several clients comment on how small it looks and that it’s better fitted for a woman.

[@Mega-zi7ys]

You should consider when the 5 digit model came out.

[@hittingreens5646]

@@Mega-zi7ys True. I'm comparing a 2009 lexus versus a 2023 toyota.

[@Mega-zi7ys]

@@hittingreens5646 👌 Best regards

[@thegraciefighter102]

Rubbish ! I’ve worn my 54 every day for 2 months and not a single comment. Why do people make this stuff up ! Hardly anyone knows or cares about your watch

[@fitforfreelance]

fair question and interesting discussion. I'm a fan of the Tudor bronze watches!

[@karlsenula9495]

In my opinion is Tudor historically a better buy than Rolex? - no. Is Tudor a better buy than Rolex right now? - yes. Rolex has name brand cache ('I own a Rolex - I've made it and been successful in life') and some iconic designs (Sub, Daytona, Datejust, Explorer) ... Tudor is now getting there.

[@rorymcclellan3740]

When you didnt need google to understand the columns reference! I still be owning my friends at columns!

[@johnnychen235]

Well done chaps, love this video. I am as much a fan of Rolex as well as Tudor, and I collect both.

[@tangentradio7272]

Tudor is a much better idea. You lose your $10,000-$12,000 Submariner and you think about it every single day for the rest of your life. If I lose my Tudor Black Bay 41, I'll spend another $3,500 and buy another one and get on with my life - some regrets, but no tears.

[@michieltummers1303]

I have the 2012 burgundy bezel tudor blackbay❤ my favorite watch

[@thetruebatman4632]

I literally come to Andrew’s Rolex troll videos just to see the Rolex cultee’s freaking out lol.

[@denis888red]

"Would you go for the old or new Submariner?" There's a bit of an irony there in that very few people can get their hands on either, never mind making a choice! I have a 16610 I bought in 2003 for £2,800, which I thought was a fair price and was happy to dish out at the time. Now though? 9, 10K and upwards? Nope. I don't think so.

[@teruphoto]

Tudor has a better price to quality performance but where Rolex excels is in the extra refinement. Case in point: the Black Bay Pro vs the Explorer II. Very similar designs but Rolex delivers a thinner case. Rolex has Tudor beat on quality, so the question to ask is whether the incremental refinement is worth the significant price difference.

[@nash9625]

Those two models imo offer an interesting comparison. I think the only thing better on the Rolex is the thinness BUT the size and the measurement from end links makes it look like a helicopter pad. Also Tudor has the t-fit with micro adjust vs the 5mm extension. I've cross shopped these two significantly and always walked away because I want a mixture of the two of them and it doesn't exist.

[@teruphoto]

@@nash9625 I went with the older 16570, which has a much nicer size than the new Explorer II

[@nash9625]

@@teruphoto agreed, wish they had kept that size. If there was an exp ii with 40mm and an updated bracelet and movement I'd be all in. How do you find the bracelet on the older model? I'm still debating getting one and wearing on straps. One with the 3186 would be ideal but also wish they had ar. Any issues with legibility without the AR?

[@teruphoto]

@@nash9625 The bracelet is fine, although I swapped it with an orange leather strap.

[@Joe-xo3xy]

Tudor is on the right path, especially with the new black bay red which has made a statement of continuity of the 41 dive watch and the message of refinement. This could be a parallel rebirth of something very similar to Rolex and the sub. However, the other lines need a clean up, not a cancellation but a clean up. The fast rider was almost a hit but there are issues here and there with dial symetry and slight case refinement, it is almost there

[@stene123]

I think Tudor Pelagos 39 is the perfect diver.

[@lexus0829]

I wore a 14060m sub daily then my AD had a new sub available last year so i traded it in but after 2 months of wearing it i sold it didnt like it at all shininess and chnkyness turned me off....... i bought a pegalos 39 which i wear now daily , looking for another older sub.. big mistake trading that in... ive had the BB58 when it first came out loved it but same time i had the 14060m so it didnt get much wrist time... with that said if you dont have the budget for a older sub the BB58 is fantastic...

[@Cmdtheartist]

I genuinely enjoyed this conversation between you two. I like all the dry wit and acerbic metaphors, but when the watch world's version of Oscar Wilde and James Whistler have a serious talk about watches, I am all in. Thanks.

[@marty197666]

I wear my Rolex op41 to the office. No one notices it, totally flies under the radar. Same with my panda Tudor, but when I wear my tag f1? Everyone is like omgwtf

[@Libertà_sopra_vita]

Now that Tudor is using their own in-house movement, id say yes, yes it is. They have more originality than rolex. Rolex releases the same old models with different dials or upside down movements (left hand sub). They might give you an explorer with dome gold on it or a different size explorer. Thats about it. Not to mention, rolex is too mainstream imo.

[@xu10j4rs1]

I'm fortunate enough to have both and 💯 Rolex is better.

[@real-inthecellar]

Short Answer - no A Rolex is still epic. Infact I got my Rolex Explorer 36mm from WOS yesterday and boy oh boy a Rolex is a Rolex! Super happy! I still intend to get a Turod BB54 however!

[@michaelriera6277]

I have a 124270 and love it, but it looks and wear diminutive. I tried the 54 and it wears and has similar vibe as my Explorer. Didn’t you find them similar? Have you looked at other Tudors with a little more eye candy? Even the BB58s are more interesting in my opinion.

[@Jordan.Arslan97]

It’s simple buy Rolex wear a Tudor

[@Joe-xo3xy]

I feel the same way about the new daytona, very odd combination of elements. However, certain releases need time for the eyes to settle. Remember the older Daytonas, how everyone in the era wrote them off

[@Interisti2506]

I have a Tudor Pelagos in black and i love it

[@ryanfritz8903]

In terms of quality the Black Bays are 80% as good as the modern Subs. The Sub bracelet from the thinness of the links and glide lock and quality is a bit better due to the steel. The brand prestige will always have Rolex ahead of Tudor. The Black Bays feel more robust and not jewelry like though. Submariners are I think too well refined now that they feel dainty.

[@michaelriera6277]

Agree on many of your points, but you think that a modern Sub feels dainty?

[@ryanfritz8903]

@@michaelriera6277 the bezel doesn’t feel tactile anymore. Yes it’s very smooth to turn but it’s easy to bump it and the bezel isn’t aligned to where you set it. The bracelet feels soft and the links feel light even though they’re solid. It feels like jewelry. I have a 20 year old seamaster and that feels more solid, robust and comfortable than the modern sub. No way would I wear the sub actually diving or doing yardwork because it feels like jewelry and the 904L steel scratches way too easy.

[@markbailey5393]

Tudor over rolex everytime. Rolex is a watch for people who don't know watches but Longines is killing it at the moment.

[@walterhardinge-zt2ol]

At the end of the day as good as they both are they are the same company ,2 heads on the same coin ,either way you flip it they win !! As much as I’ve wanted a few models of both over the years and have had a SUB , my experience with Rolex has soured my opinion of them.

[@emreisiklar]

Love rolex divers but BB58 is a perfect watch,cool factor, color scheme, not so flashy

[@777SJ]

Tudor is a thinking man’s watch. The dude say he likes shiny things and prefers Rolex - says it all.

[@PAUL2YU]

80% of the reason that people buy a luxury watch is for the BRAND, then the rest is about the function and material differences, in-house movement, etc.

[@peter5204]

888k subscribers, well deserved ❤

[@kelvin.008]

Bought my 10 Tudors at up to 50% off RRP new or near new is a no brainer.❤

[@Chenxi_love_music_fairy]

This is a very debatable topic. I am a Rolex user who has three Rolex and a bigger fan of Tudor. I have considered Tudor as a more classic Rolex as well as having more values than Rolex.

[@TruthTeller00]

No. Saved you nine minutes.

[@shadowdraxx]

Having a Oyster Pep and a Black bay GMT it’s the Tudor that’s on my wrist everyday it’s not about the brand to me but the watch I like to wear. Heck sometimes I even wear a cheap citizen because I love it’s look.

[@nimish2073]

Thenku brothaaaa

[@Sexiestmanalive01]

It’s literally the same, but hey you know best. Cheers from Switzerland

[@garyboyle695]

Sorry but I disagree, I bet a lot disagree with you.

[@WatchmanNiel]

In my opinion, you’re very wrong. Rolex is certainly a better watch in most respects, but it is not a better buy going by the waiting lists and dubious pricing tricks.

[@kyrilkaplan5011]

Yes...because an available product that exist for real will always be better than a waiting list....

[@tudorserban111]

I think a lot of brands would stand to lose if Rolex was indeed readily available. Because Rolex at retail is by far one of the best value brands out there if you take a close look at what you're getting. So not only would Rolex being available not help Tudor sales, it would actually hurt them. And it would also hurt Omega, JLC, Zenith, Breitling and a bunch of other brands that people settle for because they can't get a Rolex.

[@silvershadowjsh]

I hate rolex and own a BB but the answer to the video’s question is- absolutely no.

[@trinity3422]

I go between my BB58 and my SMP 300m Diver and love both of them. I do definitely notice the build quality more on the SMP, but I love the dimensions of the BB58. I have a 7 1/2 inch wrist so some may size me out of the BB58 but I love the smaller look. If Omega sizes that SMP down in a smaller size I will have a problem on my hands. Lol😂

[@bushpig6837]

I would love for omega to make a mid sized Seamaster again. They used to make the wave dial version in 41mm and 36.25mm which sounds tiny now but I wore one every day for 15 years on my 7" wrist and never thought it was small. Maybe they will see how popular the 37mm BB54 is and want some of that market.

[@SIZZO76]

Tudor is nowhere near the level of omega 😂😂😂

[@trinity3422]

@@SIZZO76 I agree, that’s exactly what I was stating. Omega has an undeniably better build quality, that you can see and feel.

[@trinity3422]

@@bushpig6837 I think they do still have a smaller SMP on their website at 36.25mm 🤔

[@inlandwatchreviews5745]

I am retired now so if Rolex was at Tudor prices I would be interested. I am more interested in Tudor now. If you want a 1954 submariner get the Tudor BB 54.I plan on getting the Pepsi GMT Tudor in 2024.

[@legacywatchguy8333]

Listen to the banter, enjoy the content, realize I will never own either, and be really happy with my old Seiko with fresh strap...and keep dreaming.

[@garryhall9660]

i used to love Rolex but their marketing and the way that some ADs behave is a turn off. my view is Tudor is on th same level for quality and time keeping. the Pelagos for my is the perfect diver and the black bay is the perfect all rounder.

[@M4516-c9f]

39mm explorer 214270 mk2 & 37mm BB54 🤝

[@mbingham10]

There both nearly as good as a Grand seiko I think any thoughts?

[@turquoisecat761]

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