I think it's more likely that: -Demise cursed the land and his curse seeks out individuals with the capacity of evil and emboldens them. -Vaati being a already different enough Minish than usual felt outcasted and turned towards evil. -using the wishing cap Vaati wished to be given the form of a Sheikah and the abilities of the Sheikah along with other more potent and enhanced magical abilities.
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
That's possible :D
@nonoctoro49335 жыл бұрын
Demise never cursed us directly in Japanese, he said that the curse was the curse of the Demon Tribe. Vaati, an albinos minish, fascinanted by the Darkness in the hearts of men, turned into a Dark Sorcerer thanks to the Cap. He was obsessed with Darkness. At the end, he fully turned into a Demon thanks to the gigantic powers of the Light Force feeding his dark heart. By becoming a Demon, he made himself a member of the demon Tribe, an agent of darkness carrying the will of the fallen demon king, Demise to create a world of demons. Tho Vaati wanted to rule all, he wanted to become a God of Darkness. But Gods are what Demise hates the most as he told us prior to our clash, thus he contradicts Demise's will and was fated to failure. Demise never called himself a Demon God, he always was a Demon King, a Demon among others with a mission, their messiah per say. His Japanese name is more clear on this, "Shuen no Mono". "The person of Demise" as the one that brings demise, the end to the world ruled by the Gods and remakes it into a world of Demons. Ganondorf is not what Demise wanted, Demise would want Ganon, the demon, the human is an obstacle to the fulfillment of his will. Agahnim, Ganon's half, indentified himself as a member of the Demon Tribe, Downfall Ganon is the best Demon King of all as he really acts as the King of the Demon Tribe, not just as a Tyrant using them as manpower.
@spadezap97285 жыл бұрын
that makes sense, I was thinking how would a sheikah made with a minish lol!
@GrimatheFelldragon6665 жыл бұрын
This makes more sense
@OriginalCreatorSama4 жыл бұрын
@@spadezap9728 magic to make them smol? Sheikah are adept at magic and the picori can make others small, that's how Link changes size in the game.
@bowlofshades51885 жыл бұрын
Minish Cap is so underrated. I hope they make a port to the Switch. Day 1 purchase.
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@bromicorn4 жыл бұрын
They should bring a four sword trilogy switch port and maybe a fourth game
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
My uncle has Monish cap, I only get to play it once a fortnight buuuuuut I'm stuck on the first dungeon 😂
@bromicorn4 жыл бұрын
@@yba_xoxo monish cap
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
😐 😑 😐 Oh
@Karuminu25 жыл бұрын
If tiny little people like that really existed and lived hidden in my apartment and left little bits of happiness for me to occasionally find...I'd totally leave a plate of food out for them every night! They're so freaking cute!
@nonoctoro49335 жыл бұрын
Watch out for your cat tho.
@Karuminu25 жыл бұрын
@@nonoctoro4933 Lol. Don't own one.
@WhiteDragonCM4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, people have been doing stuff like that for ages. :3 Brownies being a somewhat common example, but there are many versions of the myth, house spirits, that do chores for you, so long as you respect them, and one way to respect them is to leave them an offering of their favorite food. just don't make them angry. xp unlike the Picori, they do have a mischievous side.
@Christopher-md7tf5 жыл бұрын
Zelda characters: Have eyes Zelda Tubers: How does this relate to the Sheikah?
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Spot on my friend... Well other than all the Malice x Eyes videos now ;)
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
Zelda tuber gets bored: how does the sheikah eye relate to sheikah?
@nonoctoro49335 жыл бұрын
Vaati, a Sheikah ? Teleportation : this is nothing out of the ordinary, wizzrobes, Zant, Ghirahim, sages ext ... they all possess a magic that teleports them. Colours : Purple and Red ? It is also the colors of Darkness. Many Dark enemies are of this color, when a monster dies, it explodes in a purple blast, Darkness as he is a Dark Sorcerer. Red is also a color of Demons, the Death Sword in TP, the Gem on the Trident or on Demise's Sword/Ghirahim, the Shadow demons, Zant's magic obtained from Ganon ext ... Magic : like the Demons are too, just look at Ghirahim or Death Sword. But he's more akin to the wizzrobes... Darker and without the hood. Sheikah Eye : It is true that Vaati transfigured's eye kinda resembles one. Red Eyes : not especially, again, Dark creatures are sometimes red eyed. But also the Gerudo in FSA, some Ritos ext ... It rather came from his albinism. Sheikah-Minish union ? We never saw a female minish ahah and while humans are able to be reduced to the size of a minish and minishes to the size of a human through the magic portals, I ignore how minish reproduce but it's probably different from humans. It seems as unlikely as a Goron-Zora hybrid. 4:25 They first came in contact with the Wind Tribe which ruins seem much older than Skyward Sword. So, probably millennia. His title is 魔神 "Majin" Demon God, while Demise's title is 魔王 "Maô" Demon King, the exact term beared by both Ganon and Malladus. Not the same ! 7:24 Better not claim this tho, it's always debatable. Sheikah are the servants of the Goddess, they served the Hylian as her chosen people and the Royal Family as her blood. When the Yigas defected, they turned their back to Hylia, feeling betrayed. The Minish don't serve anyone, they feel the joy of making humans happy, they are not obligated to do so. The Minish of the city moved here because they enjoyed helping humans, humans as not only the hylians but also the wind tribe which they first made contact with. If the minish are akin to the fairies, then they can, Veran true form is one of a dark great fairy, the most benevolent beings out of there. Veran is the proof that anything can turn into a demon if its heart is too dark and filled with evil. I'm gona say ... Nah
@Denpiq5 жыл бұрын
i actually agree with you... it just doesn't make sense.
@dragerv41184 жыл бұрын
Its yoga baby cause this is a stretch
@LegendaryPokemon12214 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed and appeciated the thought and research he put in this video, but I'm gonna have to agree with you.
@netweed094 жыл бұрын
Mm, nice and interesting thoughts. This only serves to make Vaati even more of a mystery and genius conception!
@noelcolon40124 жыл бұрын
Vaati became interested in evil by observing its effect on humans.
@lyraphoenix68835 жыл бұрын
SOMEONE IS ACTUALLY GIVING MY BOY VAATI THE ATTENTION HE DESERVES SOMEBODY HOLD ME-
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
YESSSS
@toddstrange91845 жыл бұрын
I hope they remaster Minish Cap or have it available on the Switch Online. Such a fun game and Vaati is best boi
@lyraphoenix68835 жыл бұрын
Todd Strange Vaati for Smash or I’ll go and cry in front of Sakurai’s wife
@picoriacorn64445 жыл бұрын
Vaati 4 smash
@evibarr324 жыл бұрын
I have never in my life heard of a Vaati fan so you are one of the few that are a fan of him
@_yamizu_kagamine48585 жыл бұрын
"Case closed." Got an add immediately XD Hadn't I known the video was longer I would probably believe it was a troll video XD
@ZeldaLore5 жыл бұрын
Although I don't believe he is a sheikah, as it is easily debunked by in-game dialogue that he is a Minish, the similarities to the sheikah are definitely there. It makes you wonder how they sheikah really came to be, as they are, at the end of the day, Humans like the Hylians and Gerudo. Messing with shadow magic could turn your eyes red and hair white for all we know, explaining that similarity between Vaati and the Sheikah. This is the same as arguing Veran from Oracle of ages is a Twili, as she looks similar to one. She clearly isnt but the similarities are there. Its a fun theory to think about though! Great video as always!
@princestingy76315 жыл бұрын
Zelda Lore aaaaaaayyyy nice to know u watch this channel too
@ZeldaLore5 жыл бұрын
@@princestingy7631 of course! I even did a collab with Hyrule Gamer here and on my channel lol!
@polleonardtaliesinhywel69865 жыл бұрын
@Zelda Lore Also makes one wonder the origins of the Picori, as they are also skilled in magic just as the Sheikah are. It’s my own assumption that they could have evolved pre-Skyloft from Sheikah who were experimenting with shrinking technology and magic, just as they were also clearly experimenting with time travel technology and magic as seen in Lanayru province in Skyward Sword. They can be assumed to have been in existence by the time of Skyward Sword due to hearts and rupees appearing in grasses and such in both Skyloft and the Surface.
@Darkpentagrams4 жыл бұрын
"The sheikah cannot do evil" *looks at the Shadow Temple and its purpose*
@roasdra96923 жыл бұрын
Exactly xD. Shadow temple is cool, yet scary. Tbh. I never want to do the temple again
@Bonnielikescats3 жыл бұрын
And of course the Yiga Clan.
@Roii6664 жыл бұрын
OK, here is my theory and I really WANT you can read this. At first I thought the same as you about Vaati and his similarity to Sheikah, but yeah, he born as a Minish, so, it's not truly impossible to be half and half, but I have another theory more likable. As we know, Minish live surrounded by other people and races. And we can actually see differences between mountain minish, city minish and forest minish. I mean, they take the "culture" of the habitants of the different zones and adopt to them. That's why I belive Vaati was a minish who lives in a Sheikah house, or in a sheikah hidden tribe. Learning about them, their magic, spells, shadow stuffs, etc. But, in contrary to another minish like Ezlo (who maybe raised in a Sheikah house too because the hair and knowldege) Vaati had the bad luck to live into a "Bad Sheika" ACA Yiga ACA (maybe) Twili ancester house and learn all the EVIL knowldege. And that's why I believe Vaati is actually a minish who got influenced by an evil Sheikah. I see the Minish like the "Yordles" in League of Legends, like an exageration of the humans cultures. If you search for them you can see it, a yordle adopt the personality of some culture and get that to the extreme! That could happen to the minish too. Minish in the cities acts just like the Hylians. Minish in the mountains are tought, and maybe will adopt Goron's culture in the future, the same with water-Zora, or the peacful forest. (Even I have my own theory about Minish becoming Kokiri/Kolog influenced by Kwis because their relationship with spitits and childrens) (And even "wind" tribe minish could be, why not, the Oocas of Twilight Princess)
@benjamingroff2464 жыл бұрын
Well, would that mean that if a Minish lived on Death Mountain, they would take on the form of mini-Gorons?
@Roii6664 жыл бұрын
@@benjamingroff246 not necessarily, in minish cap were some minish living in the mountains and they looked like dwarf-like creatures
@horns84325 жыл бұрын
About time someone did a vid on Vaati.
@Attaxalotl5 жыл бұрын
We need some ghirahim theories. (Favorite zelda villain. ∞ • better than zant)
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
@@Attaxalotl zants wac, I prefer the sheikah (yes, they're villains, haven't you seen or been in the shadow temple in oot)
@Hawlucha775 жыл бұрын
Vaati is Magolor Soul from Kirby, so also is a Dark Matter, the end
@princestingy76315 жыл бұрын
Vaati makes a cameo for botw 2 confirmed 😭👌
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
:00000
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
@Hydra Mate chill, it wasn't a claim of confirmation.
@lyraphoenix68834 жыл бұрын
Young Prince I WISH
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
@@lyraphoenix6883 you're wish came true... Almost. He's in the prequel, or, it is suspected... Boo!
@emmanuelgonzalezcaseira91415 жыл бұрын
Seeing how the Sheikah have been chosen by the Goddess, emphasis on "chosen", I think it is fair to say that she may have chosen a couple Picori too in the process. That would make Vaati be a Sheikah without trying to imagine how his ancestors... actually did the deal.
@Inkyink4 жыл бұрын
Ah Vaati is so underrated. Thanks for doing this! My one huge problem with this theory is... *how?* how did a sheikah and a minish... whatever nevermind.
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
That question is probably better unanswered...
@SilicatYT5 жыл бұрын
Vaati is called ‚Immortal Demon‘ Demise is called ‚Immortal Demon‘ *So here you have it. Vaati is Demise. Case closed*
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
:0
@HolyCow02735 жыл бұрын
So Vaati is the first incarnation of Demise, not Ganondorf. Got it.
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
No, wasn't demise the first reincarnation of demise?
@saraross83965 жыл бұрын
The Minish Cap, as a title, is a play on words in two ways. The first is that you spend most of the game wearing a Minish as a cap. The second, and more relevant, is that the object of the game is to get back a cap that the Minish made. Ezlo made this cap as a gift for the humans. His apprentice, Vaati, being enamored of the evil in the hearts of men and desiring power, stole this gift for it was no ordinary cap. It had the power to grant the wishes of its wearer. Vaati desired to be a powerful sorcerer, and using the power of the cap took on a human form so that he might go to the world of men, obtain the lightforce mentioned in the tales of old, and become even more powerful. After Vaati's defeat, Ezlo aided in seeing the cap fulfill its true purpose by giving it to Zelda whose wish was so powerful that the cap fell apart. In short, no, he is not a Sheikah. Magic and the ability to use it seems to be pretty common in Hyrule. Even in the non-canon cartoon Link and Zelda discuss how rich in magic the land is. The Minish are known to live off of humans so there really isn't much by way of technological advancements if any at all.
@BanditGames5 жыл бұрын
The appearance similarities are definitely there! Great video man!
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton dude!
@Brasscoin3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t Vaati use Ezlos magic item to turn himself into a Hylian Sorcerer to be closer to the light force? This act wasn’t necessarily evil, though it did eliminate his former protection from the influences of evil that he held as a Picori. Once a Hylian the evil was allowed to creep in and taint his soul. He went on his power search due to that new found evil.
@legendswithjasper5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Vaati is definitely Sheikah. Also, could you do a ‘why you should play Minish Cap’ video in the future perhaps?
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and yeah that could be possible!
@Ephidiel4 жыл бұрын
doesnt the game explicitly state he was a picori who went apeshit evil?
@vaatimaster42175 жыл бұрын
They never said where ezlo and vaaty are from maybe they come from a town full of minish with those eyes and skin , maybe they come from a town where the sheikah are located or maybe is something we are not thinking about , who knows :D good theory !
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Maybe maybe, thank you!!!
@nonoctoro49335 жыл бұрын
They are from the Minish World, not the same world as Hyrule unlike the other Minishes we saw in that game, a world that only connects with Hyrule's once a century. Ezlo cannot even understand the forest minish dialect correctly.
@shadowmaster2525 жыл бұрын
@@nonoctoro4933 speaking of the minish world I wish Nintendo would go into detail about it. Like what's that world like or who contacted who first the humans or the picori. Also why can portal between world's only open every 100 years. Just some food for thought.
@nonoctoro49335 жыл бұрын
@@shadowmaster252 We only saw Elzo's house ... The Wind Tribe were the first humans entering in contact with them prior to their ascension to the sky. The last one .... hum, in IRL, the transit of Venus across the Sun is a once a century event ... So ... Minish are Aliens ?! "Another world" could also mean "another planet" and the Elemental Sanctuary could be built upon a Worm hole.
@shadowmaster2525 жыл бұрын
@@nonoctoro4933 I didn't know the wind tribe was the first to talk to minish that's pretty cool.
@lohengrin.4 жыл бұрын
4:46 I got an add right after he said "Vaati is Demise, case closed." XD I honestly thought that the video was over!
@jeremiah33555 жыл бұрын
Love the intro, brings back a lot of memories
@SongoftheLute4 жыл бұрын
Something I never thought about until today is that Vaati was a tiny piccori you can't see and when he appears as the winner at the festival he's become the same height as a Hylean. How did I not notice that all these years? Great video.
@siriulrich58752 жыл бұрын
an ad played right after the “vaati is demise. case closed” part and i for a second thought that’s how the video actually ended
@MCsonic5374 жыл бұрын
hey, i agree and also, you know yuga from a link between worlds, i think he is a shieka too. think about it, the yiga clan from botw is an evil sheika clan, yuga is only one letter different and is an evil sheika, look into it , it is interesting
@chubbyadler32765 жыл бұрын
This might be something for Nintendo and Capcom to investigate in a later Zelda. Speaking of which, who actually owns Vaati?
@EtheRenard4 жыл бұрын
Fun detail: climb a tower in BotW, and look at the entrance of the roof. It's the eye of Vaati (FS/FSA)
@HyruleGamer4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
I'll check that out
@arceusinsanity3015 жыл бұрын
Albino, while it would need to be on the more extreme end, they do have red eyes
@prinxen17334 жыл бұрын
*Hyrule Gamer repeatedly: Vaati has dark tan skin (shows Vaati with almost-white purple skin)
@HyruleGamer4 жыл бұрын
This video is pretty flawed looking back
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can say that again HG. Please make a theory video on how the man in the recent Age of Calamity video might be vaati. Hey, it's a subscribers request.
@legendswithjasper5 жыл бұрын
How has this been out for an hour already! Let’s go!
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Nice lol!
@shadowmaster2525 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that would love to play a Zelda game that shows what happened during the events before minish cap. You would play as the hero that used the picori blade and sealed the evil into the bound chest.
@benjamingroff40644 жыл бұрын
How could a Sheikah have a child with a elf-like race the size of a human thumb?
@fantoast69325 жыл бұрын
I'm skeptical but I always felt that it was weird that he had all this magic... I originally thought that he kinda got the power from the cap and if he took it off he'd lose his power... perhaps it works like a wish thing for each person's personal use...
@nonoctoro49335 жыл бұрын
It was the Cap that made him into a dark sorcerer, but then, after turning himself into a Demonic being with the power of the Force, He reborn as a demonic wind mage. He may had magical powers at first since he was Ezlo's apprentice, a legendary mage and inventor of the Minish World, he probably learn the basics of minish magic from him.
@fantoast69325 жыл бұрын
@@nonoctoro4933 that's pretty epic of you
@natbatlightwood52884 жыл бұрын
What if Vaati is Bongo-Bongo from Ocarina of Time (i'm basing this solely on what i remember from Ocarina of Time since i haven't played Minish Cap, and what little i do know about Minish Cap is from youtube) he's got Sheikah features, The Sheikah seem to be heavily associated with the Shadow temple, also his final boss form is a Shadow demon thing, Bongo-Bongo is a giant Shadow monster thing and you fight it inside the Shadow Temple, they both get that giant glowy red eye. I can't remember Minish Cap's placement in the timeline but he could be a different version of Bongo-Bongo, i mean if we can have multiple different Ganon's then why not different Vaati's/Bongo-Bongo's. Like i said this is just a guess and i have nothing major to back it up with but it's just a thought that occurred to me.
@_yamizu_kagamine48584 жыл бұрын
Playing Zelda a Link between worlds made me think that Vaati actually was a minish from Lourule. The reason is that Hyrule and Lourule are basically the same, even the Hyrule people have another version of themself in Lourule, only difference is red eyes, purple attire and (very commonly) purple hair... He or his parents might have figured out a way to escape Lourule by getting to Hyrule when their world first started falling apart. The small crack they created maybe grew slowly until it was big enough to see and to travel to since A Link between worlds are way after Minish cap. That's my theory, but I like yours too :)
@crystaltiger1053 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad someone is talking about the minish cap and vaati it's such a good but underrated game
@eoinmoran10735 жыл бұрын
Such a good Theory keep it up 👍
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@picoriacorn64445 жыл бұрын
FINALLY PEOPLE ARE GIVING MY BOI THE WIND MAGE VAATI SOME ATTENTION
@kingaflamez69414 жыл бұрын
11:29 "Vaati is indeed 100% _part_ Sheikah" lol
@kharlanhero44284 жыл бұрын
Maybe Vaati disguise himself as a Minish to get close to the Minish Cap, but his true form is the human size Vaati
@1se3y0u3 жыл бұрын
Theory (made before watching video): One of Vaati's parents was a Sheikah that possibly came for research or happened to end up there. His mother possibly died on his birth and his father didn't want him because he looked different, so he was sent to Master Ezlo to be rasied. But that's just a theory. A GAME- ok, bye.
@Sour.Lemonz4 жыл бұрын
That, or he could somehow be lorulean.
@nintenx12354 жыл бұрын
I always felt like vaati is a reincarnation of demise’s sword ghirahim I kinda always thought that if ghirahim is the opposite of the master sword’s Fi then he would at first be a living creature that through his loyalty to demise is granted power and in turn became demise’s sword
@hylianlnk37195 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work! I think this is a likely theory and love the minish cap aswell
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Norcy.5 жыл бұрын
He’s probably just a reincarnation of demise but I like your theory
@rubenskywalkerredlanternda56204 жыл бұрын
Norcymadar he can’t be a reincarnation of demise
@sarahquayyum81763 жыл бұрын
i think vaati was a stand-in for ganondorf
@saincx0m95 жыл бұрын
actually imagine if vaati somehow appeared in one of the tinelines and one of the mysteries would be how did he survive? was he dead? Did he cheat death
@LozPlaya5 жыл бұрын
no. just no. Vaati can teleport due to being a sorcerer (ganon can do it too). and the sheikah do not have the only claim to eye symbols (see alttp, aghanim has it too). Red eyes are not a indicator of shiekah heritage either anymore, it just happens to be a common trait among them (see BOTW), and its not limited to them either (see Kafei in MM). and just because most minish are "goodie two shoes" does not mean there can't be bad apples, you are making generalizations. also, titles can apply to many things. Ganon is called a dark lord, but also a demon, but also.... you get my drift. and how Vaati dresses before he puts on the hat and becomes a sorcerer IS similar to how the minish dress, just in darker colours. the shiekah are only advanced further down the timeline. and I would really dispute the claim that the minnish are advanced technologically. magically, perhaps, but not technologically. and again, no, we dont know a "pure" minish would not defect. The shiekah have defected, and they were servants of the royal family and hylia, which can maybe be taken as indicative that other "good" races can do so too, rather than what you say it indicates. you say the minnish are miniture gods and do not have it in them to turn, but thats mere speculation and arguing from silence. vaatie is clearly part shiekah? its not up for debate? sorry bro, you have not provided nearly enough evidence to even begin to make that claim. sorry bro but I do think your wrong on this one. there is just too much evidence against, and not enough evidence for.
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Sorry bro, sorry bro, sorry bro. So so sorry for making this video :D Sorry bro
@nonoctoro49335 жыл бұрын
While I agree with your message. Bro ...
@MrKevosmin5 жыл бұрын
Nonoctoro STAHPSHSJS
@tamoozbr3 жыл бұрын
Vaati looks like a cartoon character casually eating their cereal after waking up in their home on a totally normal day, that wierd line thing below his eye looks like the offset mouth
@availlaponcet58775 жыл бұрын
Well, I wanna know how a fully sized Sheikah procreated with a lil Minish. We'd need to know more about the Minish lifespan and HOW Minish procreate in the first place. Assuming the Sheikah is the male in this instance and the mother is a Minish (as Vaati has grown up as a Minish), if the Sheikah who procreated with a Minish were to... say, shrink down at the 100 year mark and meet with the Minish then perhaps that could work, if Minish live for 100+ years, seeing as at least another 100 years would have to pass to get to the time of the Picori Festival. As for Minish childbirth, it's easy to assume they get pregnant for nine months and pop out a baby, but the Minish AREN'T human. They may not need an entire nine months to fully form a child, in fact, they may not even GET pregnant. There are a lot of different ways to give birth besides pregnancy. And that's even considering IF Minish and Sheikah are close enough DNA wise to procreate together. They maybe like cats and dogs, which are not compatable. So... I think we do not have enough information to debunk or to prove that Vaati is half Sheikah through genetics, but suffice to say it is highly unlikely. My personal opinion on Vaati's "Sheikah-like" appearance is, put simply: look at any old video game. Red eyes, purple clothes = EVIL. This was also to make him stand out against the other Minish. His pale, ghostly skin and red eyes make him look like a ghost or vampire, while the other Minish have tan skin, have warm brown or black eyes, and are clothed in the colors of the forest. This is to physically show the children playing this game that Vaati = EVIL, Other Minish = GOOD. As for the mark under his eye, I think that was kind of like foreshadowing to his final form as a fucking eyeball monster-thing. It wouldn't be the first time a boss or enemy has been an eyeball, so that doesn't mean it's Sheikah coded. It's my belief that Vaati is the first one to be affected by the curse of The One Who Brings Demise, and his soul was corrupted. So therefore, he has a little bit of the The Immortal Demon within his soul now, and always. Ganondorf would be the second but most successful. Vaati's appearance was made from a game design perspective, not a lore-based perspective. Anyway, I really enjoyed this theory! Even if my conclusions are different, I still gave a like!! Can't wait to see more!
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
We know the Minish CAN and HAVE been able to size upwards, that's possible for them "getting it on" as some would say.
@availlaponcet58775 жыл бұрын
@@HyruleGamer True! But Vaati was raised as a Minish, which is why I figured his mother would be one. But! That's only if Minish birth has anything to do with the mother, they could be like seahorses for all we know. So regardless of the possible Sheikah parent's gender, it is unlikely that Minish "parts" are compatable with Sheikah "parts". There is a slim chance they are though, and so there is a slim chance that Vaati could be half-Sheikah, which IS still a chance! That's where the design comes in, as they only thing connecting Vaati to the Sheikah is his design and I've stated my thoughts on that above. Still, it's cool to see someone is as fasinated by the Minish as me, so thank you! And it is definitely possible that Vaati could be half-Sheikah, but there's just not enough proof for me.
@xXdarkdekuXx4 жыл бұрын
Vaati may have been banished to the minish at a young age because he showed signs of a curse. Perhaps he was the first incarnation of Demise's curse.
@michelled.48745 жыл бұрын
Hyrule gamer, By the way, I'm writing a Legend of Zelda series entitled "The last of the Ancient Ones". It's a fanfic series in three parts, three one-shots, I have already posted part 1 and I'm currently working on part 2. The story takes place post-Majora's Mask and is mainly about the Happy Mask Salesman (his name is Masao here) who is the last of the Ancient Ones, how he helped the people of Termina and Hyrule, and his part in breaking the curse/cycle on the three bearers of the triforce. Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf are in part 2 and 3, but not in part 1. Part 1 is only the Happy Mask Salesman, Tatl, Tael, and original characters. If you cry while reading this series, remember that I cried more while writing it. If you read the series' index page, you'll find a description for my Legend of Zelda fanfic series and more informations (links) on some things I mentioned in my Legend of Zelda fanfic series (objects, origins of names, etc). Stay tuned for part 2 and 3, for it will be a series in three parts (three one-shots). archiveofourown.org/series/1500296 You should read this before you get started on reading my Legend of Zelda fanfic series (canon evidence that the HMS is the last of the Ancient Ones): zeldauniverse.net/forums/Thread/205366-The-last-Ancient-One/?postID=6404678#post6404678 Disclaimer: I don't own The Legend of Zelda or any of its characters except for the original characters (like Shaw, Kaliska, Kieran, Yaza and Mili). take care, Michelle.
@justingumieny Жыл бұрын
It is possible he while still a minish could have found books of shieka history and of shieka magic which could have influenced him. As for his skin, it looks white to me both in minish form and human form. He could be albino which may have made him an out cast and ezlo was the only one who interacted with him and despite that, may have led to his seeking of power to show the others he doesn't need their acknowledgement
@CouragelessOne Жыл бұрын
Idk if the interloper war happens before or after minish cap, but it is theorized that the interlopers were rebellious sheikah that were banished to the twilight realm. Perhaps vaati was inspired by them, or some sheikah were inspired by him, depending on when the war was
@hambartha5 жыл бұрын
I think 'The Dark Interlopers' were very possibly Sheikah defectors - The Sheikah need more of a back story as do the Gerudo. I think Vaati was just a corrupted Minish. There's not much backstory of 'The Minish' either...
@cody28193 жыл бұрын
Demise's curse is Ganondoft, but is he responsible for every time a new Link has to be born? Hm......wouldn't be a far fetch theory as with Ganondoft trapped for well over 10,000 years Demise would need a new vessel to carry out his curse. Plus confusing two forgotten legends is possible as well.
@cj_johnson99155 жыл бұрын
I love the theory videos keep them up my guy!
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Thank you¬
@7th_Link5 жыл бұрын
I need to play this game one day
@jpgorys25285 жыл бұрын
Maybe he just took the form of a Sheikah so he could walk among normal-sized people and get close to the king
@sageofsquirrels1115 жыл бұрын
Playing through #BotW again, I just can't shake how much the Sheikah writing seems to resemble the shape of Vaati. The circle, with some random dots and one big eye in the center...I'm starting to wonder if the Skeikah haven't always had some connection to the dark minish himself. Perhaps its tapping into Vaati's power that allows them all their "true magic" abilities? Could this all be some nefarious plot to be set free once again?
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@benjamingroff40644 жыл бұрын
It would be amazing if the creators of BOTW 2 reveal that Ganondorf, Majora, Onox, Veran, and Zant were all puppets for the true antagonist, Vaati. And Demise was just a fake Demon King all along as well. And, he would have gotten to the strength of a god, by leeching off the power of the 4 sword’s limitless energy inside of the sealed realm.
@jorgeoquendo75145 жыл бұрын
Which do you guys think is more powerful? The Picori Blade/Four Sword or the Master Sword? I mean, within the context of the lore, the Master Sword is explicitly called the MASTER sword and labelled the most powerful sword, however an exception i can think of is Biggoron's Sword in OoT. It did more damage, but as we saw at the end of the game when it was necessary to finish Ganon with the Master Sword, lacked the power to destroy evil. So, there can be swords that do more damage. The four sword also has at least a SIMILAR power. We see it can seal, but we don't know that it can DESTROY evil, as the Master Sword can. It can split the player into four, but are they each equally powerful, or does this split your strength in four? Or maybe does it split the sword's sealing power in four? The sealing power might actually be, since it's supplied bit by bit by the elements in MC. You can't even manifest four Links at first. From this you can assume that the Links all house the power of one element. Then the next question, with all four elements, does the sword's power match the master sword's? I don't think so. The four sword's seal on a minor villain like Vaati has failed on numerous occasions. I say minor because in FSA Ganon talks down on Vaati when he's defeated and reveals he revived him to use as a puppet. Plus, i know Vaati's origin story from MC and he really was just a normal, albeit greedy, Picori who gained powerful magic from Ezlo's hat. In the same way Midna was powerful thanks to the powerful shadow magic she obtained, but unable to defeat Ganondorf even in his weakened state, Vaati is the same. Ganondorf's inherent magical power is implied to be from Demise himself, a being more powerful than the goddess Hylia, he also usually has the triforce of power, making him effectively invincible as time has shown. I believe that, against evil, the master sword is peerless, however in duels against regular opponents the four sword might win out since the four split would be more useful.
@chiffmonkey4 жыл бұрын
Rest assured, your theory is incredibly solid. Go watch Zelda Lore's video about the Zonai and prepare to go down a rabbit hole when you see that Vaati's boss version appearance has the earliest form of Sheikah eye we have seen in the series.
@res96955 жыл бұрын
You ignored the possibility of albinism.
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
I didn't ignore it. I just didn't mention it in the video as the points for sheikah were leaps and bounds better and stronger. It was considered though.
@nonoctoro49335 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is most likely the case, pale with red eyes unlike every other minish out of there.
@8citani85 жыл бұрын
My Theory based on your is that Vaati is as Minish as Link is a fairy boy in Ocarina of time. He is not a Minish but was raise by them in the same way that Link is not a fairy but was raise among them as if it was one of them. Maybe that confusion of not belowing and discovering his true past is was started his fascination with darkness.
@rkayo98523 жыл бұрын
VAATI was also an eye like creature in four sword and looks a lot like the Sheika symbol
@riolu4773 жыл бұрын
Vaati is.. misunderstood, he's an albino minish, that in itself made him unique, but it was not only that, but he took an interest in the evil in mens heart, note it never said he was evil himself but he was interested in it, so he hadn't been evil back then, yet, my theory goes as follows, due to his albinism (similar to irl) vaati was left out of the group, only being accepted by ezlo as his apprentice, now, we know ezlo isn't exactly a nice person, so, being left out, and ezlo being mean to him, he deviated even more from the nature of his race the minish, but still decided to follow ezlo, ezlo constantly raised him to be a better version of him, and was mad each time vaati didn't reflect that, vaati, only wanting to be what his teacher wanted him to be grabbed the cap and made a wish, to be the most powerful sorcerer alive, but, theres a flaw, ezlo isn't totally pure, and being mad and everything as he thought the light force wasnt enough of a gift for humanity, he accidentally had poured bad emotions onto that hat, that along with the wish of power, the abuse, and the interest in evil hearts vaati had mixed altogether, a taste of power and big amounts of negativity made him even more power hungry, ezlo helped making him bad in not accepting him once the transformation was due, his robes and everything was purple still, his transformation to evil wasn't complete, purple is often seen in a lot of games as a sign of corruption, and we know all enemies in zelda arent bad anyways unless imbued by this color, in minish cap theres the instance of the monster that disguises themselves as hylian and doesn't want link to turn the light on after taking the house of an resident as it would reveal their disguise, anyways, throughout all the game, vaati never once harmed a hylian other than link, he turned everyone to stone, with a spell that could easily be reversed, so? Why? He was not fully evil, and only had a grudge on minish, yet he needed the power to make sure no one could stop him and become as in his own words a god, there was a flaw, he took the power of the "light force" triforce of wisdom, yet he didn't have the courage and power ones power, and it happened, he tapped into a power that made him become a demon, a power he could no longer control, at this point he was wishing for link to kill him, to free him, but that didn't happen, link sealed him in the game, zelda wishes for his "evil" to be undone, and so, few hundred years later, the seal weakens while zelda is going to renew it, but this time vaati is not blinded by evil, vaati is blinded by rage and love, wanting to marry zelda, as that fails, he is sealed once again, at some point before that happened i believe he might have used the shadow mirror to create shadow link (not to be confused with dark link) as shadow link tricks link into believing vaati was freed and when link frees vaati by pulling the four sword, not long after shadow calls him master, showing that way their connection, vaati who's had enough at this point decides to give up at this point, helps ganon, as he is tricked by him, and when they fuse, it all went down, the links come, beats the crap out of then, at some point in time shadow link decided to betray them, probably as he saw ganons facade, so their defeat is assured, but, despite ganon having another end, vaati was sealed, not with the four sword, but rather inside it, and the sword was thrown into the sea never to be seen again, due to the lack of vaati and their previous fusion, shadow link, becomes entirely property of ganon from then on this is my theory, of vaati's transformation to evil, as he wasn't evil at the start, but only interested in watching it, thanks for reading it, and i know it has flaws and all, but i doubt him being evil from the start, i also decided not to make references to the manga as im not fully sure if its somewhat canon, but in there, it shows what would have happened if vaati was spared, and also, link tells ezlo in there that he's being vaati a bad time and not to be rough with him, as here the moment the cap was taken away vaati was return to his usual somewhat shy self, and ezlo isn't any nicer than he is in the game, as a vaati fan, i know i may be wrong at some things, but i trully believe he wasn't evil himself, but rather his surroundings made him thatway, may sound redundant, but thanks for reading agai
@kolterbraun14564 жыл бұрын
I would call Vaati's hair purple but it does have that grey Shieka color.
@OriginalCreatorSama4 жыл бұрын
"Unless someone in his bloodline had some sheikah in them." Me: ......*eyebrow wiggle* eyyyyy
@alanhersch46174 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that Vaati could have been the origin of the shiekah in the first place, since they arent mentioned in minish cap at all and it is the second game (chronologically) in the series. BUT THEN SKYWARD SWORD! The shiekah and mentioned by name to be the helpers of the original goddess and impa is one of them. Sigh.... It is really sad cause Vaati being the first sheikah makes ALOT of sense, now all of zelda continuity has holes in it, so in a way this still could be intented, or like perhaps vaati becomes the source of future shiekah magic at least.
@59rlmccormack5 жыл бұрын
Sweet video bro!
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Taios87entertainment3 жыл бұрын
Vaati didn’t truly die. In four swords adventures, he escaped into the dark world and left
@BenteinBjerke4 жыл бұрын
Is there a Sheika that specializes in wind? Vaati, Wind Sorcerer, Fortress of Winds, Sheika.
@HyruleGamer4 жыл бұрын
I can't remember actually lol :)
@wafflesthearttoad69164 жыл бұрын
But how was vaati born? He’s picori and sheika? But the picori are so tiny?!?! WAIT?!
@ChickenPerm5 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHHHHHEIKAH great work as usual!
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@GikamesShadow5 жыл бұрын
How could he be an Evil Sheikah member? He used a cap which might as well be a dark relic if you think of it hard enough. Like, Ezlo supposedly made it, sure, but what if he recieved help from someone from the Sheikah. Could be possible. Highly doubt it. Before anyone reads on: Whenever I go into videos like this, when its about things I am passionate about, I can come of as a bit of a dick. If that so much as came over in my points on this theory, I apologize. Its not meant as such. Its a fun theory, but I wanted to point out its flaws. 1. He can teleport: He literally has a cap that grants him wishes. He can have everything apart from ultimate power which is why he needs Zelda. I dont think that teleportation is out of the picture here. 2. The colors: Now, sure, in the official artwork you can see what colors they are for real but, think of this from the mind of a child. You see everything is colorful and nice. And this guy, all dressed in "black" or darker colors is the bad guy. Tis a bit of a reach if you ask me. 3. Magic: Magical cap that fulfills wishes. Any wish. Apart from ultimate power. 4. The Eye: Correct. Its an eye. If you pay close attention in the scene where Vaati first transforms from a minish to his humanoid self, you can even spot that small red stone to turn into one for just a second. But what I really want to point out instead is this: The Nightmare in Links Awakening too has a form where the core is an eye. And he isnt linked to the sheikah in any way shape or form because it would be literally impossible for something of fictional presence (fictional to the zelda universe) to be a dark part of the sheikah. 5: Eyecolor: Or... He is evil. If this were a trait of the sheikah, then I must ask this: Why have there only been humanoid sheikah to this point? I mean if Vaati could be one, why arent there more Sheikah from different races? Anyone with red eyes is possibly a Sheikah with that logic. 6. He is different from other Minish: Yea. He is. As for his choice of clothing: No Minish of higher age dresses the same. No minish with a job dresses the same either. You only see the younger ones being fairly the same. AND he was the student of Ezlo. Making him stand above the regular Minish already. 7. The Minish vs the Sheikah: First, the Minish didnt come and save the world. The Minish came and delivered the blade the Hero used to banish the evil. They were a crucial part, sure, but that is about it. Also... yea they were advanced. In... different... ways... The sheikah hide in the shadows because they are the protectors of the princess/goddess. They need to act from within the shadows. That is their strongsuit. They are practically assassins. The minish are... helpers. Supporters. Help you when you need help. Help anyone. They sprinkle rupies and hearts across the world just because they want to help anyone that comes across them. They dont do this systematically to help the princess or the godess. They do it for anyone that comes by. The shoemaker is a good example. You got a few Minish just working hard to help him create the shoes. 8. Minish vs Sheikah 2 Electric Boogaloo: Vaati is the first to be bad as the minish are beings of pure nature. Betrayel such as this is unheard of and unthinkable. Therefor, because its possible in the ranks of the Sheikah, he must be a Sheikah. My good sir... WAT 9. Minish vs Sheikah 3: The Yiga Clan is a Clan of defectors. Quite correct. Linked to the context as to why they defected, it makes sense. The Sheikah arent pure. They are just like the rest. They saw how they prospered and would advance steadily and didnt want to turn back to a lesser lifestyle. They wanted to keep going. In their eyes, they were betrayed by the Kingdom and their own brothers and sisters who just took it as it was. The Minish cannot be told to stop by the Kingdom when the Kingdom barely even acknowledges their existence. Periodt 10. Vaati is part Minish and part Sheikah: That would require his mother or father to be Sheikah. Which is neither confirmed nor denied. But seeing as its impossible due to ingame lore I can easily say that I deny that possibility. The Sheikah are a race. The Minish are a race. In order for him to be both, his parents must be from the Minish and the Sheikah. Again if I came of as a bit of a dick, I apologize. I tend to get way into this stuff. My theory on why Vaati is evil, now with the current placement in the timeline is that he was touched by the shadow of Demise and was corrupted that way. It even makes sense seeing as the curse itself was supposed to have him, Zelda and Link to be there at the same time throughout the ages. But here he wasnt. He was not resurected and instead there was another evil. Vaati. I say he turned evil on the day of his birth, he was destined to become another evil entity, rivaling the power of demise simply due to the fact that he was getting stronger and stronger. The fact that he had this magical cap now, made it even easier for him. He already learned through Ezlo and then one day Ezlo made this cap that would fulfill anyones wishes. He saw his chance and he wanted to become stronger. So he took the cap and did what he always wanted to do. Become so powerful that he could rival the power of Demise easily. The only thing that stopped him from doing that was Zelda. Because even Ganondorf needed her power. In a way, he could definitely be the reincarnation of Demise.
@Undead_Creric3 жыл бұрын
In minish cap vaati transfigured eye looks like the sheikah symble
@jorgeoquendo75145 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on the video? No, he's not sheikah, his origin was shown in Minish Cap and all your evidence is circumstantial, you only take in post-magic hat Vaati. He used to be a normal Picori. I don't think he is an incarnation of Demise either, he and Ganon exist in the same game where Ganon used him as a puppet, Four Swords. Vaati is similar to Midna, powerful, but only as powerful as their magic artifacts, which are shown to be weaker than Ganon. Both Ezlo's hat and the fused shadows.
@1JayAkki5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add to this theory... I don't believe Vati is Minish at all. You himself said he could've been an early Shiekah defector. It's possible that the Minish used their magic to seal him in a sense, making him small and wiping his memory much how the resurrection chamber wiped Link's. This is why he was placed in an apprenticeship, so he could be monitored by Ezlo. I think Ezlo originally tried sealing Vati, and ended up taking on the role of a father figure afterward, leaving him feeling responsible and justifying his quest with Link to seal him once again.
@CouragelessOne Жыл бұрын
3:38 Nintendo's been doing that to everything in zelda forever
@strappymasksalesman28195 жыл бұрын
4:43 oH
@agraves57545 жыл бұрын
Great theory!
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
:D
@johndoe-yn9ko9 ай бұрын
I know that these are two separate timelines, but the yiga clan from tears of the kingdom were evil. Possibly the external source... *Only watched half way when I posted
@lnsflare15 жыл бұрын
I'm just confused why you pointed out his eye/skin/outfit color, but didn't mention that his body is that of a Hylian's rather than the very distinct shape that the Minish have. 7:26 It's like trying to prove that Link is actually not a Rito and only talking about how he is a blue-eyed blonde that wears green tunics, but somehow skipping over the fact that he *also* isn't a giant bird.
@HolyCow02735 жыл бұрын
I think Vaati is the first incarnation of Demise, not Ganondorf.
@Aztr_artz5 жыл бұрын
Vaati doesn't even look like an average minish in the first place Edit: Also Ezlo doesn't look like the average minish
@MrsDeadGirl75 жыл бұрын
Amazing VID I love the entire theory
@HyruleGamer5 жыл бұрын
Thank youuu!
@whimsicallab60353 жыл бұрын
Mini theory Soo the mining drop the hearts and rupees in the grass Where else do you get hearts? From killing monsters. Soo are we killing pikori in the grass and those are the hearts source?
@davidquezada504 жыл бұрын
Got it. Recsrnation of demise because gerudo weren't a thing yet
@nathanericschwabenland88888 Жыл бұрын
All religions are the same not just Zelda culture and lore = nine gods then three gods then one god and then no gods and back to nine gods again sighs
@nathanericschwabenland88888 Жыл бұрын
What they call magic nowadays is called technology
@hylianpotato56835 жыл бұрын
No Vaati is a picori
@Aka60thChip4 жыл бұрын
Your evidence of him being a descendent of the clan is primarily focused on his appearance n for that u did not convince me. However I do agree he can’t be pure picouri and I agree that he has ties to demise. However my theory on demise is that he doesn’t reincarnate as beings, I like the theory that malice is a reincarnation of his hate n that is what drives the evil in Hyrule
@666Valo7774 жыл бұрын
Kind of makes sense...I’ve been wondering if that character in hyrule Warriors calamity is Vaati.
@yba_xoxo4 жыл бұрын
It seems so, more things towards it being him than not being him.
@Frogboyaidan4 жыл бұрын
Vati is a yagi
@HyruleGamer4 жыл бұрын
Oh?
@Tmb7evvvvv4 жыл бұрын
uhhh, dont take this the wrong way but listening to you saying wair at 0.25 speed is oddly satisfying.
@Attaxalotl5 жыл бұрын
Ghirahim is hopefully coming back for BoTW2 ! maybe... I want Ghirahim to come back...
@muhamadapriadi4 жыл бұрын
Wow, impa in 4:44 just like impa in age of calamity
@HyruleGamer4 жыл бұрын
👀
@MorbusFreak20114 жыл бұрын
The next question still remains. How did a Sheika and a Picori manage to breed?