Is Vintage Guitar Hype A Lie?

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[@ericwillett8709]

Dude, I am total student of 80’s metal, like you, but that slow melodic bluesy stuff you played during this video on your strat and Les Paul and 335 blew me away. I am begging you to do a lesson/lessons on how you approach that kind of playing. Maybe covering note choice, rhythm and harmonies, etc. What your feeling and thinking when you play like that. It absolutely made me feel things I don’t normal feel in music. Your awesome bro. Thanks for everything.

[@urbaniteproductions.4391]

2nd this

[@IJIIKY9192]

Man that Strat tone is just perfect

[@stevengrunza128]

Yes

[@sinisterj73]

Eric Willett . You could not have put that any better. I totally agree.

[@smackyfrog6046]

My finger callouses have never been bigger as these weeks on quarantine.

[@SaintFredrocks]

I can say the same for my butt callouses too.

[@andrebenoit404]

Sorry to hear! So many people have lost their jobs.

[@Copetti仁]

Same, even though I already play for 3 years, I’ve been playing hard!

[@andrebenoit404]

@@joemccarthy641 sure that's what it is.

[@markk171]

Same I am a newbie...I "played" a bit when I was young. Started to learn again just before all this crap but now...I am practicing a TON. Fingers are sore and hand hurts from exercise and stretching! Be Safe and wish all of you good health and good luck!

[@tigranayvazyan5974]

"If you get a new guitar, think of it as you're startin' the story with that one." well said!

[@richardb9195]

I own a 69 strat and it is still in excellent condition. I’ve found the sound a little more mellow than a new one. And yes it does need TLC

[@mooseknuckle9662]

To be vintage it has to be at least 25 years old. Gary Moore said he played bad old guitars and great new ones.Vintage does not always =Good.It also depends on the type of music you play.If you play Death Metal with the distortion cranked,you probably won't need an old Strat or Paul.

[@mmaviator22]

For me there are 2 classes. Vintage, and then what Ive coined Vintage Modern. Vintage is well, anything vintage but Modern Vintage for me would be anything from the 80s to 99ish. I feel this is a great spot because thats really when things began to change in the guitar world. The Van Halens, George Lynch's, Satch, Via's etc. I think theyre still valuable and can find incredible guitars from this era theyre just slightly more modern kinds of guitars. 1 of my dreams, an original silverburst les paul. Just like Adam Jones rocks. Even though I am a lefty I would still love to have that piece of unique Gibson history and track with it!

[@christopherbarrie7375]

The Strat sounds A-mazing. Now it should have a swamp ash body bc of it's year. Is it a 2 piece body??? I bought a 73 ash Tele blonde back in 2002 or 2003 and yes needed a little love and a fret job but sounds amazing.

[@thomaskingclark]

63 are the best Strat's. 74 and below Les Paul's (78 last real Humbuckers) and 60's dot neck 335's then first Jackson's and China Tele's 1st run. Old 60's tube Vox and MK2.

[@alexmc6323]

Guitars just like everything else are only getting better with time. New technology, new ideas, innovation... I mean that’s the point isn’t it. There are of course some exceptions but for the most part “newer” will be better.

[@colinstout7184]

That's very true. But there is an attraction to old good stuff that applies to all sorts. Like cars ,you know a new car is wwwway better than say a e type jag ,but they are lustted over .do agree guitars now the best they ever been but would not turn my nose up to a lovely vintage strat,

[@misterknightowlandco]

@@colinstout7184 old cars are great for a weekend joy ride, but you'd hate it for a daily driver. You'd get pissed if you had to drive a car with a stick shift, no power steering, no ac, no power windows, the weird breaks they used, old styled carburetors, and finding leaded gas or having it converted or no fuel injection. Lol the old cars were certainly prettier though, but have virtually no features that make your drive easier.

[@glenkepic3208]

For investment, fine. Otherwise Play, Don't Worry. Another cat did a bit about a $50.00 guitar....gots one, Arbor 'woodstock' strat. I've had this since '85 and sure, home and band practice. Its the player and tone they choose. heck, I paid $75.00 for last guitar, new. hss strato. 10 years ago. Still rocks.

[@tonlarj37]

It really depends on the situation, feel, setup, and what I’m playing. Great video, man!

[@sfgylk34u_57]

It's just simple: old wood. Well tempered :) Take an old guitar and it will sound better, than any modern super custom shop top boutique abc r999 etc

[@gordianknot6867]

The only thing I like about the vintage guitars is the vintage specs, 7.25 radius, nitro finish that ages and checkers rather than chipping. Literally no one is gonna be able to accurately differentiate the sound of a 1963 slightly under wound neck pickup from the millions of aftermarket pickups out there and they definitely won’t be able to tell when you’re playing with the band.

[@Barbarapape]

Todays guitars are mostly made on cnc machinery to an accuracy the "Vintage" guitars can never match. There are some excellent vintage samples, but they sell at crazy prices, most samples need a lot of work to return them to a playable standard, and then they will still not meet the quality of modern ones .

[@SteveHubbardGuitar]

Another fantastic video!

[@bnastali]

Somehow a vintage guitar can have a "mojo" to it that makes it special. It's hard to pin down. The pickups age in some way that gives them a smoother tone. Maybe?

[@budgrzo3361]

Making me want a 335

[@rhabdob3895]

Vintage is another word for old.

[@geraldhills41]

I wonder what happened to my 1984 Les Paul , it sounded crap !

[@j.w.5485]

I would consider your Strat, 79 and 89 LPs and 335 vintage. They look too nice though. You need to beat them up a little :)

[@spekenbonen72]

New or vintage, always play a guitar you plan or want to buy before buying it.

[@henryrodriguez2054]

Six strings and different configurations, "vintage" is all marketing. Just find a guitar, any brand and if it inspires you then it's great. If SRV had played a Zimgar guitar, then their prices would be through the roof. So......

[@misterknightowlandco]

My guitar I play the most is an fsr bullet squier tele. I have much more expensive ones and quite honestly, they're not worth the money to me.

[@stevekelley1536]

Please everyone go look for vantage 50s 60s guitars and amps. I'll go and buy those lonely guitars and amps from the 80s and 90s. Please everyone go 😁😁😁

[@frantisca]

"The new guitars of today are the vintage guitars of tomorrow" mark my words... :))))

[@FL5_OGryan405]

I'd Deff consider 70's vintage lol

[@JB19504]

Although I am and have been retired for several years, I have noticed my fingers are working a lot better on my four guitars ( a Les Paul, two Core PRSs and a Mod Shop Strat). Today's guitars, with all the technology available to manufacturers, are infinitely better than guitars of yesterday. I remember my Les Paul Jr (1958 Vintage), my Jazz Bass (1965 Vintage) and my Martin D15 (Vintage 1970). They all sucked with horrible action and warped necks. My new guitars which are all less than 1 year old, play like dreams. My cheapo Les Paul Tribute plays very nicely, much, much better than my Les Paul Jr that my Dad bought me waaaay back in the day. The other three are off the charts. That's my $.02.

[@brettdiaz]

A guitar is considered vintage when you’re the seller

[@philsmith3019]

Sellers be like: "Rare, one of a kind, you'll never find one in this condition, tone to die for, holy grail!!!" _25% markup._ Buyers be like: _Lowballing all day, forever hunting for pawnshop price come-ups_

[@ayoutubeaccount864]

Welcome back Troglodytes

[@philsmith3019]

That guy has next level ocd. “Here we have a tiny microscopic swirl mark in the control cavity, looks like they got sloppy at the factory. ”

[@eljefeguapobarbon]

Just say no to vintage and custom shop, way too much for way too little. Find something that plays great and down the road do some fun modding to make it yours!

[@computerscientist5953]

I'd take a custom shop fender any time over a vintage fender. Vintage guitars are good for collectors and for those who don't play their guitars

[@Slickrickthethird]

Unless you're a tone snob. John Mayer still plays a '64 for the live shows, and might I add it sounds GREAT live.

[@jvin248]

The things with vintage instruments: the good ones generally survived, the bad factory examples were parted out long ago. Of those surviving instruments, as they became more valuable, the owners had more talented guitar techs go over them and do better repairs and setups. After forty years of such work the guitars are no longer represent regular factory output they are effectively Custom Shop specimens. Any modern inexpensive starter guitar can have the same great guitar techs work on them (such as a full fret level and setup) and the modern cheap guitars will play like Custom Shop guitars too. Throw a Glarry on a PLEK and it will play amazing afterward.

[@ayoutubeaccount864]

Trogly’s intro plays in the background

[@Emma-kz3zr]

I'm that guy, all about s/steel frets, my guitar is workhorse, it's all about the instrument's endurance against the daily beatings it takes.

[@jmc1186]

Well said! That's how I feel. My guitars need to take my beating.

[@vincentcabral1173]

As long as you love ❤️ the instrument who cares what others feel about it.

[@emmanuelalfredomendoza7365]

well said

[@ReinhartSchneider]

You should care, because the goal of playing music is to entertain other people and if you sound shit that matters. A lot.

[@twootters7433]

WELL SAID! I own lower level guitars and upgrade them. Who cares if it isn't a name brand. I own a Squire Tele that with upgrades was a total of around $500. Sounds and plays as good as a $1000 Fender Tele. Xavier. Few have even heard of them. I got one and after upgrades the total cost was $600. I sold my Gretsch to get the Xavier money back. Plays and sounds as good as my Gretsch did. Vintage? Who cares. Name brand? Who cares if what you have sounds and plays as good. I'm not name brand fanboy.

[@budgrzo3361]

One of my favorites in my collection is a beat up Mexican strat I bought for $ 100 years ago. I put 2 new pickups in it and it’s a workhorse

[@petealba707]

I wouldn't call it a lie, but very overblown. I've made a living playing guitar for over 25 years. I paid for all of my life expenses by teaching and gigging. Early on, I couldn't afford vintage equipment and made the most of the moderately priced gear that I could afford. For the most part, aside from a couple of bands where I shared lead guitar duties, I was either the only guitarist or the more accomplished one. My bandmates never made feel "less-than" because my playing and good tone spoke for itself. Nor did I feel resentment because I couldn't afford the vintage Strat or Gibson that the rhythm guitarist would often play. The audience didn't care either. Later on I started a family and couldn't justify buying vintage equipment. That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to owning a great piece of vintage equipment when things align properly.

[@bolt4694]

Vintage guitars are not any worse or better than newer ones. Very few of any era are perfect. In my opinion it gets down to snob appeal and pride of ownership. People in the audience don't know and don't care about the pedigree of your instrument. I have a 1988 Am Std. Strat. 1998 52 Tele reissue. 1966 Es 335. 1995 LP premium plus. Bsses - 1966 Gibson EB2. 1987 Carvin LB2. 1987 Fender P Bass. 1985 Steinberger. Some still feel new. I would consider all to be vintage. Some feel broken in and very vintage.

[@andyj6384]

If I had the money for a “true” vintage guitar, I’d just buy a hand full of custom shop guitars. Might not have the same mojo, but some of these reissues I’ve played are top notch.

[@matthias7455]

Dude, I would get some affordable vintage axes, jr's, melody makers and SGs. So much better IMHO. the fender custom shop stuff can be really good. The gibson historic stuff is cool, but not as good as vintage also IMHO.

[@sunsparkle8443]

or , just get a workhorse Kiesel for under 1300 dollars u.s. It will be better than 99 percent of the old guitars out there. and the frets don't wear down.

[@andyj6384]

Sun Sparkle agreed!

[@davey_tones]

Unless it has sentimental value, then I would rather have a new or modern instrument.

[@rickdixontn]

Vintage being "better" is just a marketing effort and many guitarists have bought into it. I have a Strat and Tele I've had since 1979 when I was 16 and they still sound great. But I have some brand new Gibsons and Fenders that play and sound great a well. But as with anything, whatever makes you happy, go for it.

[@Reallifenewz]

Who is marketing vintage? lol seems like a bad strategy for selling

[@jonniegibbins]

@@Reallifenewz There are loads of vintage dealers :-)

[@rockarena666]

Roused ask Joe Bonamassa

[@prajothatte6620]

I guess it's just choices

[@jltrem]

I'm old enough to remember when they were just second hand guitars and could be had for a lot less money than a new one. Before the advent of the "V" word.

[@mtacoustic1]

Old isn't necessarily valuable- I've got some rocks that are a few million years old, but not valuable! Even some Strad violins are dogs & best resigned to museums. However, I find some old guitars have a real vibe that their modern cousins can't touch. Sometimes it's just matter of mojo; the guitar's history. A well-played guitar is well worn for a reason!

[@rowenlampe7426]

exactly, its not the tone, or playability for me but the mojo around them and the history, very cool

[@jrtme]

So you have experienced Stradivarius Violins first hand to know this?

[@mtacoustic1]

@@jrtme yes. Im a violinist in another life.

[@mtacoustic1]

@@jrtme Yes, and a Guadagnini and a Vuillaume; unfortunantely none were mine. Still looking for a crack at a Guarnerius.....

[@giuseppebaja]

Bullshit, older violins are sonically more powerful (if you're a violinist you should know that)

[@bestplans9051]

Just because it's vintage doesn't mean it's better. My thought is "was it a good guitar to begin with"? I hate todays "relicing" look, it's totally phony as opposed to a guitar that's actually earned it's meddle.

[@gordonsmith33]

I just bought a 2020 Gibson and it's going in a closet for 30 years. I will be selling it "vintage" in 2050. bidding starts now . no reserve...

[@ShortFuseFighting]

(i dont play the guitar other than chords/basic rhythm guitar) but i been playing bass for 25+ years, and i used to work in a music store in the mid 2000s that ALWAYS had vintage stuff coming in and out (it sorta served as an intermediary between sellers and buyers). afterhours, ive tried A LOT of the old school stuff (60s/70s) and i gotta say...i NEVER could really tell the difference (and i think most people cant either, they just either convince themselves they do or dont say anything cause otherwise these fanatic will label you "a simpleton"). my 2017 am pro P (with labella 110 flats and palm muting ) sounds more "vintage" than a 62 with rounds on. on their own, these instruments dont have THAT much of a unique sound to em. its how you set them up ,what you play them through ,what strings you put on etc....a $15000 vintage instrument should be distinguishable right out of the box (without having to jump through hoops to get a vintage sound out of it) .for that money, you should be able to recognize the difference immediately, without even straining your ear, regardless of string gauge, amp type, playing style. i mean, i could find 30 sound recordings (no video)of various versions of the same bass/guitar (ranging from budget squire/epiphone to 50s vintage) and you will REALLY have to give it your all to tell which one is which (and even then you'll probably guess wrong like 60% of the time). the difference is MINIMAL at best (certainly not worth the exorbitant prices). the human brain is designed to fill in the gaps. we hear what we wanna hear. search for "brainstorm green needle" here on youtube. and be amazed at how suggestible the human brain truly is. we literally replace one word for another (and you expect us to notice minimal differences in frequencies picked up by a friggin magnet on a guitar?). the "warmth" is 95% in your head (the other 4% is the wood drying and the pickup deteriorating...and the remaining 1% is the "vintage magic" that you wackos are paying 20 grand for lol). in short...dont piss off your wife and squander your childrens inheritance and go buy yourself an american professional II for $1600 (theyre great instruments, they wont break your bank, they stay in tune and they wont croak on you in the middle of a gig)

[@OgamiItto70]

There were lots of cheap and/or crappy instruments in the '50's and '60's (and '70's, '80's, '90's, etc. up to today). Some of them were Gibsons or Fenders or Gretsches or other known, respected brands. Some were just cheap trash. Nowadays we tend to get rose-colored glasses about old guitars (and amps and pedals and recording technology) because only the good examples have survived until today. The cheap and/or crappy stuff ended up in the dump a long time ago and most all we have left is the stuff that was good enough to keep and durable enough to survive this long. A good guitar is a good guitar whether it's old or new. I'd rather have a new good guitar, though. It's not as irreplaceable and, since its parts are newer, it's more likely to be reliable.

[@Lawrence330]

That's true of any manufactured good. There seems to be this perception that everything today is mass-produced trash, but mass-manufacturing has been around for over 200 years. I remember learning in school years ago about how gunsmiths during the Revolutionary War would have to basically handcraft replacement parts for rifles because there was no "off the shelf" solution for damaged strikers, etc. Nowadays anyone can be a guitar-tech because of the enormous aftermarket and established standards. Dozens of OEMs use TOM bridges, or Floyds, or other readily available hardware. Same thing for pickups, same thing for tuners, somebody probably makes a kit to put an Ibanez neck on a Fender. All of this is possible because of the "repeatability" of mass production, which computer-controls have improved greatly. For a guitar produced at some price point, after adjusting for inflation, you're likely to get a far superior instrument today in terms of build quality.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@Lawrence330 Warmoth will sell you a Wizard profiled neck that will fit on a Fender body, but putting an Ibanez neck on a Fender would take some woodworking skills.

[@adamhunt397]

RE; Vintage guitars: I remember running across a lot of Sixties and Seventies guitars when they were still affordable. The Seventies guitars from Gibson, Fender and even Martin were considered a joke; poor wood selection, heavy body weight, lacklustre pickups, overbuilt hardware, and thick poly finishes so it astonishes me they are now considered desirable. And while you’re correct, coils can loosen on pickups and magnets can degauss and each of these things can affect what you are hearing. I would also go as far as saying that just like the caps in your amp, the caps used with the pots of your guitar can degrade too and change how the guitar sounds. Alnico magnets can degauss over time, unpotted pickup coils can loosen so that’s why you see a lot of high-gain pickups that use ceramic magnets (because they are more stable) and have been potted. Now, do potted ceramic magnet pickups sound like unpotted alnico magnet pickups? No, but I’ll say my Duncan Vintage Rails are impressive and dead quite. I used to poo-poo ceramic magnet pickups but I’ve become somewhat of a fan of them. On the plus side, a vintage guitar has had years for it’s finish to off-gas and solidify and some of the moisture content in the wood has evaporated leaving larger air pockets in the cell walls of the wood so older guitars can sound and resonate differently. However, I think that’s one of the reasons why a lot of builders are now “roasting” their wood, so it can be drier and replicate some of the feel of an instrument that’s aged for decades. As a player, I have some older guitar, but nothing you would consider vintage. I have an early 90s Hamer and late 90s Guild, both of which had some finish damage from their previous owner and one guitar I had to replace all the electronics because they were damaged, however, I found they were a good compromise between vintage and modern; both had a lot of previous play-time, they feel broken in like a vintage guitar but because they are using more modern neck carves and flatter fretboard radiuses so they bypass some of the oddities of a guitar from the 50s or early 60s. But if you’re really chancing after a vintage tone it’s somewhat ridiculous to plug a vintage guitar into a modern high-gain amp or into a digital processing unit. In order to replicate that sound, you either will need a true vintage amp or a faithful reproduction of a vintage amp in order to nail that sound. You will also need a power conditioner (because many new buildings send too much juice to your vintage amp) and you’ll need a vintage reproduction guitar cable because older guitar cables respond differently. Then you get into the question of picks and strings because vintage picks and strings were made differently too.

[@lawrence2012v8]

Adam Hunt well written comment

[@onlywhenprovoked]

some vintage guitars are great and some are shit some can be fixed up and others are hopeless same for new guitars some new guitars are great .. now but will fall apart before theyre vintage as with most things, generalizations dont really work when talking about a category of 100s of 1000s instruments spanning a decade made by 1000s of different builders worldwide. if you find it inspiring to play, thats all that matters.

[@damianvila]

Vintage guitar hype is just nostalgia... Modern guitars have never been better. Even cheap guitars are really nice nowadays... Technology brought consistency in all range of instruments. Besides: "vintage" guitars were new when famous guitar players played them...

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

"Besides: "vintage" guitars were new when famous guitar players played them..." That depends, Kurt Cobain's Jaguar was already old when he played it (for example).

[@yestoES355]

I just turned 20. To me 70s, is vintage and I found a 79 les Paul custom that plays better than any of the modern standard Les Pauls I’ve tried.

[@crazymulgogi]

Maybe that says more about the modern Les Pauls you tried. Gibson hasn't exactly been a bastion of quality control in the past couple of years. You should compare the old stuff to the high quality new stuff. Would you buy a 50k ¥/$/€ "vintage" Les Paul or would you pay 4000 to a local luthier who'll make you a LP clone or any other desired instrument for that money that will run circles around the "vintage" one? (So will most PRS, Mayones etc, I suspect.)

[@legryzzly2]

Are 60's cars better than nowadays cars ? Absolutely not. Do 60's cars have their own charm ? Yes. But they are less reliable, less powerfull, with lower egonomics and assist. Exactly same thing for guitars.

[@rolandlemus203]

I am not wealthy enough to entertain what some Vintage guitars go for, I played a couple of vintage guitars that were 15K, and a couple lower, but like you said, not impressed due to the issues the guitars had. There is one brand to me that has seriously nice vintage guitars that merit on tone value alone, the Standard and black customs. Having said that, I would rather go for the newer modern brands. The color, electronics, options and fret jobs are just a step above of what a vintage would deliver. So while some folks LOVE tele's, Fenders and some others, just not into Vintages. I like the playing though on this vid, rusty my ass, lol, and love your channel, rock on!! \m/ !

[@barbmelle3136]

From Leo: Good subject and good discussion. Old does not automatically mean good or better, it just means old. Trust me, my beard has been white for a decade, I am not better just older. 1/2 my guitars are 30 to 40 years old, many I bought new. It was my story on them, but that does not mean anything to anyone else. . Even the best brand has built some mediocre products since the beginning of time. When things were more hand built you could take three off a shelf and every one felt different. Most people on those production lines were not trained luthiers. They were just factory workers who did their job day in and day out. Some got good, some only made minimum standard. Find a guitar you like, pick it up and play it, if you still like it, it is good. It does not matter if it was made in the 60's or if it was made 6 months ago. Don't think you can buy magic just because it is a collectible.

[@PNWGuitar]

I got to play some old 60's and 70's guitars like 7 or 8 years back and truth be told most of them felt pretty bad. I think it's more about the vibe and if you find one in good condition. The most sought after vintage guitars are under the bed, never been played ones. I think that says alot.

[@apachehelicopter5001]

Bruh you just got some bad ones, most 60s guitars I’ve played have been great, and my 74’ is great

[@PNWGuitar]

@@apachehelicopter5001 I think the ones I played were players guitars. That's the problem though, they had no frets left, they hadn't been set up and for value sake you wouldn't want to do any work on them. That being said there are special guitars out there but it's really a bu guitar thing.

[@PicksPaints]

@@PNWGuitar I have to say, there were a lot more variance in tolerances back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's especially in the production environment they were being produced in. Fender, Gibson, etc... Even well into the 80's there was a significant amount of variation from one guitar to the next that rolled off of the lines. There as many guitars from the 60's that were total dogs than there were good ones. I've played quite a few Fender and Gibson from the 60's and 70's, quality was all over the place from both. Not every old guitar from that era is special... There are some gems... but there are some REAL dogs too!

[@jpalberthoward9]

I can't ever find an off the rack guitar that suits me. I've bought 2 new ones in my entire life, and I voided the warranties within an hour of getting them home. There's just something creepy about a brand spanking new,. Shiny glossy perfect instrument with absolutely no wear or dings or dirt or oxidation or anything. It feels sterile and lifeless. Like a brand new hat or pair of shoes or jeans. For some reason people want to keep things that way forever and not even breathe on them. On the other hand, the relics look and feel phony too. I gotta play 'em, let the wear occur naturally and not worry about collector value, or resale value, or any of the other crap that people obsess over nowadays. I'm the end user, and my main concern is that it works properly. It's a tool, not some golden idol to be worshipped. Play the damn thing, enjoy it, make great music with it, and it has done its job.

[@ReinhartSchneider]

Vintage guitar hype is a lie. No inquiry necessary. No examination necessary. No video necessary. You get a better guitar for the same money or less with today's manufacturing practices, vintage guitars are for collectors and fetishists.

[@impulserhaltung]

Furthermore you have to make up your mind whether it's the age or not. Considering that the sounds most people have in mind from like Hendrix etc. came from brand new instruments! I mean when you think about it it's a strange sentiment to think stuff gets better just because it gets older when most experiences in life tell you different.

[@thehound2161]

C'mon man...You don't think a pancake body would make any difference? I do not believe you when i hear you say that. I had to add this additional comment as i heard it. That is a silly statement from a knowledgable and skilled player. 5:08

[@dezionlion]

Vintage guitars were made from older wood! It was grown harvested and dried different back then. Big point you missed

[@jared305]

I personally love vintage guitars. The look, sound, and possible stories they contain just fascinates me. Though, I have a 2018 Strat that has something special about it. I may be biased, but when I just hit a note the right way, it just howls and sustains for years. I’ve done so much with that guitar in the whole year I’ve had it, but I love it to pieces.

[@drtap1477]

I prefer to have a modern guitar with vintage specs. Although it may not be the same, they are cheaper, and I have less worry when it comes to mods.

[@peterschmidt9942]

I don't look at the guitars as vintage - rather second hand. I like fixing guitars so if it's second hand, it's got to be fixable and at the right price to do so. That being said, I still like buying new guitars and customising them. At least I know they're new, have plenty of fret and generally don't have vintage issues like warped necks, cracked pickguards, tuners jamming up, pickups loosing their magnetism. Some people like that and more power to you. And as you said, just because a guitar is old, doesn't make it better than a new guitar.

[@stanesposito2664]

I've owned several Les Paul guitars and only one stayed in tune. That's consistent.

[@Astr-w6y]

Played very old strats and Les Pauls and if you do a lot of recording you will find that the older ones for the most part will naturally fit better into a song mix without having to reach for an EQ in most cases.

[@GMec78]

Both yes and no. Just because it's old doesn't mean it is good. They made dogs back then too.

[@basementrocker2764]

I’m only here for the intro jam. Rob have the best tone of all «KZbin» guitarists

[@sabbster1157]

my vintage 2019 Gibson V rips same with my vintage 1995 explorer

[@dylanzrim1011]

Before I watch it, no the hype isn’t a lie, not all vintage instruments play well, but the ones still in circulation/use often are there for a reason. I have an Ibanez roadstar 2series that’s been modified pretty heavily, yet it’s still got that vintage warmth to it, the neck full of dents, body has a major crack still sounds great. Then there’s my JS100 from the first run I think. Just makes the vintage cutoff by a year or two, best guitar I got. Now in saying all this, get a charvel with the satin/unfinished neck, you’ll get vintage feel coupled with a flatter fretboard and modern hardware to better keep up with today’s styles. Or if you find a vintage bolt in guitar but squier or say Yamaha? If the neck is good and the rest sucks, no shame in using the neck for a parts caster/Franken caster, would serve as a more genuine neck for a Frankenstrat copy than just any old fender neck, Eddie built his guitars with the best feeling stuff he could get and we should too aaand I’m rambling

[@dylanzrim1011]

Would love to bring the roadstar closer to original, thinking lace sensors

[@johnready630]

Vintage hype is over rated , it's the pride of ownership to the player that owns it that's special.

[@DoctorEnigma01]

Spot on about the frets, I have a 59 LP , a 78 and a 2017, love them all for different reasons but the 59 is an absolute beast, had to re-fret it and get one of the pick ups rewound, also if you aren't familiar with adjusting the truss rod get that way! It will bend with the humidity in the air. The draw back to vintage is keeping them vintage, breaking a tuning peg means a costly repair, a dead puck up means getting it rewound, you can't just slap in new ones, and if you do keep the old parts

[@buddypop9358]

I alway had the thought, that a vintage was at one time modern. So, go new unless you’re a collector.

[@prajothatte6620]

This intro riff was seductive

[@JDM1691]

I think playing something old makes you play differently. Love the content man.

[@livingabovethe12th]

When I was growing up and learning to play in the late 70s / early 80s vintage gtrs were called "used". Some old axes are great, some are junk, some are just ok. Just like new ones.

[@matthias7455]

Main thing that makes vintage better, especially with gibson is the wood,IMO. Great video.

[@voxshall]

I love vintage, the best vintage guitars are special. Having said that I am also happy to put jescar 47104 frets on there and set them up to my liking. What I like even more than vintage originals are the vintage player guitars that have lost their value some how from being played to an inch of there life, so I don't feel I have to be precious about it.

[@jeffhammer5614]

If 20 years old is considered vintage, I must be pre-historic

[@wmralder]

I think the real significance with a vintage guitar is that if it's still playing well after 30, 40 years, it'll probably was built to last. There is nothing else to choose between a well built good playing vintage guitar and a well built good playing new guitar. the differences will probably be as wide between guitars of the same vintage as between different vintages.

[@morrelljw]

Another great video. Unfortunately I think the term vintage has become subjective. I’m 51 and am definitely vintage leaning more towards antique. I have a 78 strat. Still my favorite to play I’m all it’s heavy, 3 bolt glory. I call that vintage. If you search vintage on Reverb or Guitar Center you see guitars from the 90s. Anyway just my ramblings. Thanks for another great video Robert. Always informative and interesting. And if you decide that strat needs a vacation. I will gladly hold onto it here in sunny Fla. lol

[@FriscoChili]

I was very exceptic about that. I have a lot of strats and teles to do the work, that I think they were great...until I bought my 62 strat, blew my mind! the resonance, the neck, it was that feel and sound. In fact, you have to test it, as all the guitars.

[@landonbailey]

The only lie is the truth, which is all a lie. 2020 Lando27music. thank you.

[@misterblack6521]

I have an early 90s Korean strat that is ash body and is killer. Got in pawn shop for 90 bucks. Love it better than American made strats. It plays like butter.

[@angelic_slayer]

Depends. I went to buy a 64’ strat and the neck was too thin. It was good but I’d moved on and gotten older had been playing les Paul’s and it was like my old 64’ strat custom local builder thing I’d had as a 20 year old. The dude put a 61’ jazzmaster in my hands and I’ll never forget it was like oh. That feeling. Oh. I’d played new jazzmasters recorded an album with a jazzmaster a few years earlier ( a mates guitar) but I still thought it was the strat I needed. I’d just changed. I got the jazzmaster. I have a custom shop strat it was like yep. But not oh. Remember the difference. Yep is yeah I’ll get this. Oh I’d like - I didn’t realise life could be like this. I’ve had a number of les Paul’s. The one that stayed is a 1980 standard. It’s got Tim Shaw’s. It’s a one piece body. It’s ebony. It’s the little monster. I’ve had a couple of 76’s and a 78 custom but the 80’ - it’s the one. That wasn’t oh. Les Paul’s don’t go oh. They do - I didn’t realise guitar could sound like this . And it’s when you turn them up and play an hour with the drummer you just float.

[@oldguyjammin9732]

I’ve played some 60s and 70s era strats and hollow body Gibsons (335?) and I much prefer today’s tighter spec’d guitars.

[@robertclarkguitar]

No...they were stock and enduring the testing stages of builds...only 70s made older more desired. We bypassed that. Long ago. You find a new one today built to spec for less and will last longer. Same feel and tone. Or custom shop for the weird stuff. The rest is hype. Built on fad. Marketing. Hence you buying one and needs work done. Lmao

[@rowenlampe7426]

I'm 16 and bought a 70 strat for 1200 after a summer of work, anyone who tells you that Vintage fender/gibson stuff is impossible to get is full of it, just work hard and look for good deals and guitars and amps that need TLC, I have a 59 strat on my reverb watchlist for 7k because it was spray painted, 7k is like a new gibson lmao

[@AviramMusic]

The more you play, the more love you get back from the guitar.

[@youKnowWho3311]

Dry wood and density is very important, and not necessarily in either direction with density/heft. Also of massive importance is nut, bridge, and electronic components. It's a good gumbo, and if you've ever had one, you know it takes time, ingredients, etc...... that make the "magic". New guitars do have the magic. My PRS core models are incredible. IMHO Paul and crew know WTF they are doing. I paid $1700 for my 2001 PRS singlecut and feel like I should find the guy and give him more money, or I should have held him at gunpoint when I bought that guitar. It was a robbery man! Keep searching. They ARE out there.

[@tonydrozdjek]

You got that right! Get a guitar that inspires you, that is the only thing that counts. If it is a vintage, go get one, if you like a new Strandberg headless, go get that one. I am fortunate enough to have them all, Les Pauls, SGs, 335s, Tele, Ibanez RGs, a bunnch of strats including a '63 pre CBS, and I enjoy them all :D ..... oh, I even got one acustic for some stupid reason :D ....and a Chibson :D

[@JoeRoganPodcastirl]

My first electric is 1980 something squire II strat that was given to me when I was 13. It was given to me by a guy from church Iwho had a son in his 20’s. would go on and on about how much he wanted it. However, on Sunday the guitar was presented to me. said he saw a passion in my eyes for the instrument and could I was not going to quit playing and would treat the guitar the way it was meant to be. guess his son was chopped liver. Idk. However, his father a purist and never felt the need to have work done it because it should “stay original” and “be preserved.” After about 2 or 3 short years of me playing it, the guitar's electronics wore out, the hardware, including the tuning machines, got rusted and it never got played again. Or at least for ten years. About a week ago I bit the bullet and did all the necessary repairs. I kept the guitar and it didn't feel right to me that a guitar that meant so much to the original owner and the owner's son would not be played again, purely in the name of “tradition” I said to myself that guitars are meant to be played and I had everything fixed. The only thing “original” is the wood, pickguard, output jack cover, and frets cause a good polish made them like new. All the electronics and hardware are brand new, and when I played it again after 10 years it was like playing it for the first time. My first “real” guitar creating music with me again. I love it. Couldn't bring me to sell my Korean 1980 squire II. It only sells for about $150-$250 online but is worth way more to me. A guitar that connects with the player is the most valuable that no one ever talks about.

[@rockerfromhk]

I have over 20 guitars, 75 tele, 76 explorer limited edition, 80's Ibanez semi-hollow w/Floyd Rose, Godin, ......... but my to go guitar is an US$75 Squire Strat upgraded with Seymour Duncan pickups, stainless steel pickup covers & pickguard plus a Hagstorm Full Contact tremolo.

[@DreidMusicalX]

I agree with you here. I've been playing 35 years now and most guitars I have purchased were not old at all,... or new. I went to Guitar Center in LV NV in 2005 looking for a really nice Gibson Les Paul. I had 5k to get a decent one. Not a single one on the wall I could either afford or were just total dog shit and needed so much work. I walked out with a $550.00US Epiphone that looked and played better than any Gibson they had hanging on their walls in the 5k range.

[@baileywoodroffe]

The fretboard on that strat is literally the most buttery looking thing I've ever seen. I liked maple necks until i really got a good look at it.

[@terryhimes5052]

I bought a Brand New Gibson Les Paul Custom in 1975 for $500.00 here in Canton Ohio. Cherry Red. Never really fell in love with that Guitar. The Lacquer on the neck was always sticky. I Finally had to lightly sand the back of the neck to get a smooth feel. I Loved my early 60"s Melody Maker, My 1963 ES 330, & my Les Paul Recorder Guitar. Also bought a J-45 Acoustic as a Second for $300.00 back then. It was marked as a second because of the color! It was Root beer Brown. The color is what drew me to it. When I asked why a second? I was told! They don't make that Color! It is a mistake!!!! I bought it just for the color! Let alone it was a Gibson J-45. Great guitar. So! Yes. There are good & not so good old Guitars. As a side note: I painted cars at the time. I had a 1979 Fender Strat. Off white. 2 of my buddies had old strats. off white. We all hated the color of them. So I painted 3 old Strats to the colors that we wanted! Who knew back then that we just devalued our guitars! They turned out great. Mine Candy Apple Red, One Jet Black, & one a White with Blue Pearl Flip Flop. All hand sanded hand rubbed ,lacquer finishes. Beautiful Guitars. But today? Not original...We had no idea back then about Vintage & original condition. We wanted our Guitars looking great in colors that inspired us. As an old guy! Maybe that is why this whole relic thing just eludes me. I want my Guitars even If they are 50 years old to look new! YES! A great atrist that has played one Guitar for years and has put those years on that Guitar? I can except that wear. But to take a Cheap or an Expensive Guitar a FAKE That wear! I have NO tolerance for that.Why would you spend $3000.oo for a beat up Guitar? This is long. And I apololgise. I get on a tangent & one thing leads to another. All of this from Robert talking about old guitars.

[@oldgittarist]

Plenty of good sense there bro!

[@CraigFlowersMusic]

All I know is, as I continue to beg for a trained ear to come and critique my new Stairway to Heaven cover which plays automatically when you go to my channel, as I've only had an interface and DAW for 3 weeks and need valuable criticism if I'm ever going to learn, and nobody will continue to do so and my self image concerning my people skills will continue to spiral downward as a result. I don't understand why just because I'm not so friendly it becomes fake, means no amount of talent will ever help. It's not like I'm hateful; I'm just concerned with integrity and happen to think of telling people they're doing a great job when really they're shit, is a lie. I happen to think it's unhelpful to give people undeserved compliments. I have been trying really hard to be nice to people, but it hasn't gotten me the criticism I need because everyone is way too concerned with being polite at all costs. When did we become Japan? Or is it my persistence? Because I would and will never go on and on about any other video; Stairway means a lot to me and I think I did a magnificent job on it. But it only got me two subscribers when I thought if there was ever any song that would bring in new views it would be that. Why am I ranting at you? Because you're so nice and it's genuine unlike the facade most people put up, which means that you may actually be capable of constructive criticism if it's asked for.

[@ResoBridge]

During the CBS and Norlin years Fender and Gibson made profit driven changes that compromised the instruments they were making and that led to the perception that the older instruments were better. Fortunately most guitar manufacturers today do genuinely seem to be making an effort to make great guitars. I repair guitars. My experience is that, to understand why a particular guitar plays and sounds as it does, you have to take them apart, examine and measure all the major parts. Most people that review and write about guitars do not do that. Some of them unscrew the pickups and they may measure pickup coil resistance, but unfortunately coil resistance reveals very little about a pickup. I think you need to measure coil self capacitance, coil inductance, magnetic field strength at the poles and even look at the magnetic field pattern with magnetic viewing film, to really understand what is going on with a pickup. And these measurements only make sense when compared to a large collection of other pickup measurements. At one point during the CBS years someone at Fender had the bright Idea that it would be good to cast the entire vibrato bridge of a Strat in one piece, top plate and inertia block, out of zinc alloy, even the separate saddles were cast out of zinc alloy, then everything was chrome plated. Zinc alloy simply doesn't react to vibration like steel, nor does it stand up to wear like steel. Tokai copies of the Strats of that time gained a good reputation as being better than the US instruments. However I have re-built several Tokai Strat copies and they definitely are nowhere near as good as the current Fenders. The problem with these copies is that they literally copied the CBS Strats of the time, including all the flaws. At Gibson they made the decision to change the volume pots from 500K log to 300K linear. Only very recently have they changed back to 500K log volume pots and not necessarily on all guitars.

[@2204as]

15 mins old guitars aren't (necessarily) better while playing old guitars that eat new ones. My kind of humor.... ;-) Just joking, I don't disagree with anything...

[@honkytonkinson9787]

I'm guessing time has disposed of a lot of the bad guitars from the 70s. There was a lot of bad guitars in the 90s too, I recall those were usually the low end ones. Not like today where you can find a cheap guitar that's almost as good as an expensive one. That said, most of the coolest guitars I've ever played were older than me, and I'm 40 Do you think a pro needs a vintage guitar in the collection, or is it simply an unnecessary luxury?

[@lamusica3361]

Modern guitars can be amazing but yeees different as you say - I bought a Warmoth soloist when touring in America a few years ago - amazing day! I walked into a guitar shop in Tulsa called Guitar House and picked an Warmoth guitar with an EBONY fingerboard plugged into a Fender Pro Reverb and i just floated on air for 10 minutes -but I recently to this day to me it just SINGS and whispers ...anyways the owner said how much ya got? $500 from my gig last night i said - ok deal he replied....as quick and painless as that!!!!! I recently bought a 2014 Fender custom shop tele - omg it is so beautiful, So my experience is that

[@johnwelch557]

In the words of Leo Fender (paraphrasing) "we made a good guitar back then....every once in a while". Then laughter! Hey, I've played, gigged and recorded since 1958. Every brand available for a couple of decades had mainly dogs on the walls of shops. Dogs, meaning, sound, playability, and variable assorted mistakes. Even sub $100. guitars these days are terrific by comparison. Heck, some manufacturers still today can't get them right...you know who too. Things began to change when Hartley Peavey began using CNC machines, and other pressures. I can't tell you how many guitars of seemingly all brands I would try out in stores just find one that only needed a truss adjustment, fret leveling, nut replacement etc. Hey, you couldn't be picky about anything except a hopelessly warped neck. Just learn to do most work. Cosmetics? Ha! I wouldn't walk across the street to see a guitar made up through the 80's at least (some small manufacturers excluded). I'm not attempting to trash the industry in those days, just explaining how the industry progressed in aptitude. When I see a YT video featuring vintage stuff, I just continue surfing other channels. Thanks for the subject and work you do!

[@donaldharris8826]

Every instrument is unique, it is junk to being a golden fleece. Anything is only worth what one is willing to pay for that anything including sentimentality, nastalgia, ect. What is for one person is not for another, whatever the reason(s) ! ! ! Peace & Play 🎸 On . . . 😎🤘 DDHarris 4-2-2020.