Is WESTERN CIVILIZATION in DECLINE?

[@CaucasianFritz123]

Central Europe is in severe decline. Riots in France, almost a pre civil war situation, huge migrant waves of people who are not compatible with our values, de-industrialisation in Germany, etc...

[@talhayousaf3918]

The simple ans is you're not producing enough babies. 😂

[@MsMinistarka1]

No country is perfect. I think the question is if one enjoys country's good sides more than is annoyed by its bad sides.

[@spacelord1913]

Speaking from Australia, the issue is most people are doing great, about 70% of the population. It's the bottom 30% who are basically trapped in an economic disaster where they will never emerge from. There is a mass immigration program that has been running over 20 years and there is simply no housing left. Land prices double about every 18 months in my area for the last 5 years. The culture is all about making money and exploiting others in society. You are not allowed to do any work yourself around home, you have to hire a qualified tradesman that charges $2000 a day or more. Further, the police and courts are totally corrupt - something people from abroad never think about here. No one has any morals - making money is seen as the only virtue. The wealthy middle class (literally all millionaires) control the political system, as they are the majority. If you want to start a business, you need to be a programmer and do it online, as the price of leasing premises has exploded, and if you can afford to buy somewhere, then you are already a millionaire don't need a business to begin with. It's a landlord and slave culture that has no prospect of improving.

[@gringopapi6985]

I would argue that the route of "be a programmer and do it online" is getting pretty crowded. Thats what I did in 2008-2014 and then it was doable. Maybe 1/100 was doing that 2008 and market was growing exponentially every year. Now the growth has stopped and probably 25/100 are there competing for the same money as you.

[@spacelord1913]

@@gringopapi6985 its nice to know we're all fucked then

[@Pavelsome]

@@spacelord1913 haha, nice one)

[@gringopapi6985]

@@spacelord1913 You can still make money obviously, maybe not escape the rat race that route so much anymore but atleast live a good life. If you want to make it these days you have to take on huge amounts of fiat debt and own producing assets. But winner takes it all is pretty pronounced in that space aswell.

[@gezalesko3813]

all societies decline at one point that is to teach humans that only the Kingdom of God stands forever!

[@nemanjaugljesic1983]

what i dont like in the west is a denial of any national identity and hyper individualism i hope my country Serbia never losses that identity cause thats what bring us together and thats what strangers like about us

[@MsMinistarka1]

Many countries in the 'West' are proud of their identity. For example, Scandinavian countries. I would say that also people in the US are quite patriotic.

[@motan7864]

@@MsMinistarka1 today, nationalism and patriotism are frown upon

[@lambeefbiryani08]

Europe is great continent to visit like tourism but not with living place...i can't live in there where people are hyper individualistic.. Eventhough i'm introvert ,i'm family type of man..

[@Seri0usStas]

Yeah, I feel better too in community-oriented societies, though they are usually poorer countries.

[@the_coolest_man_on_earth]

There are richer community based societies too like Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc ​@@Seri0usStas

[@alicreativeskhalid461]

Great video and also congratulations on the insight you've given! I am very interested to listen to what you have to share.

[@Airbiscuitmaker]

No matter how bad or troublesome things seem to look right now, every clouds has a silver lining. Hard times, will create tougher people, boost creativity and ways to deal with the situation. Giving people a challenge will also build character and resilience. Things over time will at the end gets better. Gradually but steadily. There's no such thing of course as an utopia, but things will over time get better again. The prospects will get better.

[@risingnomad]

Hopefully, yeah, but now it looks dark, but yes when I look at my ancestry, it was the dark times which defined us and made us strong!

[@gringopapi6985]

I have a similar story, where in did digital nomad very early, then lived in southern california 10 years. As that place fell I went back to some digital nomad lifestyle and been doing so for 3 years now. It gets hard after a few years for me with no roots anywhere. I been doing mostly caribbean and Italy/France. Went to check out Serbia and eastern europe this summer but felt the same darkness there as you describe. I really like Italy/France but winter weather isnt healthy. Im considering doing winter in Morocco as its slightly better, alternatively move to argentina. Really, I just want to be in a place where people dont have the mentality that we are in the end times. I hear Africa has happier places but still no one moves there. It isnt easy

[@risingnomad]

Yeah, South East Asia is the one I chose but if you can find a place in Africa which worksthat would be great. For me I want gringo convenience as well as well as safety, unfortunately South Africa just isn't safe at this point.

[@inverted_real_it_y]

I've been living happily in Uganda for many years (shifted from Europe). It's safe, no doomers, cheap food etc.

[@frostflower5555]

2:20 Instead of getting better for humans, it is getting worse.

[@Airbiscuitmaker]

The answer for the question at the end: Yes, there ís a future for the Western World. One way or another, but it will not go or happen on it's own of course. But then again, Western society is very resilient, adaptive and so far still based on original, powerful principles: Power and the vote for the People. Freedom of expression. Wealth generation and meritocratic-based distribution of that, just to name some.

[@motan7864]

"Power and the vote for the People. Freedom of expression. Wealth generation and meritocratic-based distribution" 🤣🤣

[@ira233]

Personally I heard Vietnam is a great place to live not in the North though cuz of the heavy industry and pollution, don't know about Thailand.

[@zgonjanin]

Немачки конобар (Oswald Spengler) ипак је, изгледа, био у праву.

[@stevanivanovic3441]

we misss you come back t o belgrade1

[@gorankatic40000bc]

1. When it comes to Serbia the truth is always between corrupt foreign invasions, internal corrupt one party strongmanship, and mercurially erratic temperament going alongside Jewish-like sense of noblesse and moral/historical superiority. "Middle" in Serbia rarely appears, but the existence of that appearance gives hope that if we're not completely biologically mauled/wiped out we might build our own moderate state - pun intended. 2. West, or any other place: with further economic decline culture would be in a more steeper decline, to the degree of vanishing interpersonal fairness, justifiably augmented mistrust not only towards your government but towards any stranger everywhere - neoliberal wild west translated to the countries of origin. When under economic and thus political pressure internal cohesion of the country is disrupted, complete decline of western institutions, which is undergoing for some time, would mark west's end. On another hand economical rising of the new block, i.e. of the rest of the world that politically essentially hadn't changed for millenniums, would under some kind of global coexisting pact of sovereignists for peace lead into controlled liberalization of their societies. Fascist rise in the west as a child of capitalism in crisis and hopefully gradual "softening up" of the rest of the planet. 500 years was quite enough for a "headstart", now it's others' turn.

[@brainysmurf74]

The decline began in the 90s . Clinton, jerry springer and the rise of the millenials.

[@glennfreo6651]

but would you also try to stay in China for a couple years?

[@Airbiscuitmaker]

That is a very good point right there.

[@gerrardlee8879]

To be fair, its not perfect but honestly much better than I would have thought. We Westerneres are victims of state propaganda towards China too.

[@brainysmurf74]

“Pronouns” . That by itself says it all.

[@Seri0usStas]

Thank you for your thoughts! I fled from Russia and looking for a new home. I'm considering western countries which seem to have more opportunities but has increased costs of living and a mentality I haven't quite understood yet and slavic Serbia on the other side. Haven't made a decision yet, gonna try something! BTW I live in Kyrgyzstan now, where you can feel freedom in the air (I didn't expect that from a Muslim country), except that Kremlin has long hands here when it comes to Russian citizens.

[@lavista4u]

you can try Philippines, Russians can stay for 3 years on tourist visa and then extend, lot of Russians living in Philippines

[@motan7864]

leaving russia as the world's power balance shifts in its favour seems a bit ill advised

[@nizzebroid]

@@motan7864 Many people tend to run away from themselves... Indeed, although there is a strange stereotype that those who leave for "more prosperous" countries are the most capable and active - but logically, such people should live well where there is less competition.

[@wellardme]

Russia has more long-term benefits than any Western country. There are several types of Russians and one high profile type is the deluded self-deprecating one. That means they think Russia is the worst country on the planet where they live under a dictatorship, no personal freedoms, can't build a business etc. But what it noticeable about this type is they they never try. They never try building a life for themselves, a life which Russia does offer and is affordable (if you work hard). Instead they point fingers portraying Russia in a bad light when in fact it's not Russia which is the problem...

[@risingnomad]

I'd say serbia is a good blend of west and not for you to explore... try it!