Is Wuthering Waves Getting Boring

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@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

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@itsathay 2 ай бұрын

I think 1.2 will be a filler because Natlan is dropping next week. No matter how good the game is, a new Genshin region is the largest event in gacha. Putting important story patch to compete with Genshin 5.0 would fail regardless, might as well invest in the next patch.

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you on this but the thing is, it really feels like there's not much to do in the game. I want to go all in on Wuwa, the core system and features of the game is amazing, After the first 2 days of 1.1, there really wasn't anything to do and it felt the same like the game I'm taking a break from. I want to feel excited for what is coming next, I just don't get that feeling :(

@HeliumHe 2 ай бұрын

@@TiredOfFeelings Hmm, are you tackling this as content creator or as player, if as cc, I understand that having nothing much to do for a game you intended to go all in on content would feel pretty empty. I can't chime in much on what to do as I am not a cc and would understand less from cc's point of view. If you approach as a player, then I think the down time here is pretty much needed for the game. It's an extra 4-6 weeks to get your desire units up to 80-90, echoes set, weapons and skills, which take around 1-1.5 week to complete for one character (assuming you have some starting resources and not from 0). Now, comparing this to Snowbreak (that I also play), there could be more permanent content with long term grind that Kuro should add as alternative game mode in the future, but for the first 'filler downtime' patch of the game, I think it is acceptable to have it slowed down. Might be good time to check other games on your backlog to play and just login to clock the dailies.

@soloecalybs2500 2 ай бұрын

And that's what they're doing it seems

@markedone494 2 ай бұрын

@@TiredOfFeelings Well why did you play through whats probably more than 10 hours of content in two days? I still havent even fully explored the first region we got, like do you just play this game on and on?

@KhawarJuni 2 ай бұрын

@@TiredOfFeelingsGo play battle royal game 24 hr.. This game is not for u 🤡

@RantrexGames Ай бұрын

Few gripes I've had with this game so far are: 1) Mobility - I'm tired of all this running around the map to collect stuff. To quote a classic - Wouldn't gliding be faster? No idea why they couldn't just put waypoints in high places from where I could glide where I want. The gliding is also slow and game underdelivered on grappling aspect. Why couldn't they just put some of this grappling points in the wilds to speed up traverse (something you can do yourself in death stranding for example). I compare it to Genshin's Sumeru where there was a lot of grappling points which made running aroud much easier. I would also prefer the jump to be more of a leap forward because in some cases the distance is quite dissappointing. 2) Building characters - This might be me thing, but up to this point I've build 1 character to level 90 with maxed talents, 2 chatacters to lv 90 with talents at 8 and 3 at lv 80 after buying the battlepass twice and this is after doing about 95% of game's content. Stuck farming cradits every second day just to keep up with prograssion of other stuff. 3) Intro/outro X% boost to some dmg is a boring way to create characters interactions. No idea why many of those games have sort of an elemental system when they don't f***** use it. Enemies also don't react too much to different powers bar the one they are aligned with. 4) Characters are pretty bland despite some decent animations. I have the feeling that they are trying to avoid some tropes, but I belive they are what makes the characters fun. Where is the hardworking one? Where is the chuuni :P? To add to this point - a lot of characters have no story associated with them or appear very briefly.

@NXZTX 2 ай бұрын

at 4:50 well genshin was out for 4 years ofc we know what will come out, wuwa is out for 3 months for 3 months we dont know what to expect, in the end its a gacha game gachas are made to be like this log in for 10-30 minutes a day and for that reason i love gacha games they dont take my time and i can spend my time elsewhere

@scrubmmm8643 2 ай бұрын

Well the thing is genshin has teased ALL the chapters a year before release, showing us how the characters would look and what cultures inspire those regions giving us something to look forward to. As well as a plethora of different stuff before release

@scrubmmm8643 2 ай бұрын

We don't know what to expect and what to save up for in wuwa which for me at least, is a big part of keeping me playing genshin or HSR or zzz

@isseihyoudou1547 2 ай бұрын

Ngl this hame has been getting boring. The previous patch lasted forever. Not only that but the game has had one of the most boring eventa I've ever seen in a game. Even the recent patch has nothing interesting or fun happening. Once the new upcoming games come out I'll definitely be dropping Withering waves. What a shame the game looked promising but it's been lackluster thus far. I recently gave zzz a second chance and I must say the game as been rather fun. It's been more fun than WW. Even the characters have been more fun than WW.

@absolutelyabsolute4671 2 ай бұрын

The holograms are another way to keep the player from boredom HOWEVER, I think it would be nice if there is another game mode that is not combat focused. On the other hand, we might be just getting old man...

@NICSU667 2 ай бұрын

Illusive realm is also really fun to play it keeps me out of boredom, reminds me HI3 Elysian Realm.

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

"we might just be getting old" 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 bro straight in my feelings 😭😭😭😭😭😭

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

Illusive Realm is epic!

@LewdEve 2 ай бұрын

Nah is same like genshin for me except to grind for better artefacts with shit rng, but in wuwa the echo is more tame for me and is a same issue for gi and wuwa u clear all content then u just do daily and is become boring, update came play all the content and them back to daily and build so is no different

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

I would say, gearing a unit with echos is 10 times easier than grinding artifacts in Genshin lol

@SunderMun 2 ай бұрын

All gachas of this type are like this. Main difference is that their dailies aren't a recipe for burnout like WuWa and Genshin's.

@jase4066 2 ай бұрын

I played Wuwa for 2 patches but quit cuz it got kinda repeatetive, Not my type of game...Actually I find genshin to be way more fun for me since I'm just a casual player and something about genshin story just hits different (It makes people cry) and actually just encourages me to not rush.

@scoopdps 2 ай бұрын

To be honest I feel like PC and Console Players complain too much there is a reason Mobile is always the reference on revenue charts its is because you play the game as long as your Battery can sustain I LOG IN EVERY DAY I EXPLORE I DO STORY AND I DONT HAVE TO BE ON TOO LONG I FARM WHEN I HAVE TO AND GO ABOUT MY BUSINESS AND IM SURE MOST MOBILE FEELS THE SAME WAY THE CHARTS DONT LIE

@abhiss6705 2 ай бұрын

All these gacha games will eventually spiral into the same monotonous grind. Its upto the player if they enjoy the gameplay loop and want to stick it out. For me its totally fine , they are secondary games. I treat them that way and play my main games which are helldivers , DRG , multiversus etc. Black myth wukong coming too.

@SupAqua0 2 ай бұрын

YES

@hijodelsoldeoriente 2 ай бұрын

This is why gacha games, even open-world gachas will probably always be side games for me. I do my dailies and finish events, stories, or exploration as they come. Then I play one non-gacha non-LSG gsme. I have to say though, for WuWa to differentiate themselves. They need to add a plethora of permanent end-game content. Otherwise, they'll go down on the same path as Genshin. Or should I say typical open-world gacha formula. Funny enough, their previous game has a plethora of permanent end-game content. They literally have 3 rogue-likes. 4 weeklies. And other modes. But they're still not cumbersome to do. And since the combat is insanely good, it doesn't feel as repetitive. But we shall see, the game is less than a year old anyways.

@NovaOrNeo 2 ай бұрын

It might become more hype when they talk about more regions and show the point of the journey or the goal

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

They could use Zhezhi to paint the narrative and maybe a glimps of what's to come ;)

@thedg2531 2 ай бұрын

Tbh wuwa has been getting boring for me lately too and this is the first video I’ve seen like this so I’m glad I’m not alone lol

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

Trust me it's a lot of ppl. Before making these kind of videos, I talk to my other friends who play as well. Out of the 8 I know that plays WuWa like me, 5 dropped it 3 weeks ago and might start back playing in 1.2 or 1.3.

@kcelenemkrishnan7778 2 ай бұрын

Probably too hard for you.

@thedg2531 2 ай бұрын

@@kcelenemkrishnan7778 nah I’ve cleared the endgame f2p, I might start playing again when shorekeeper comes out because she looks interesting tho but besides that there’s nothing that makes me want to get on

@NorB0316 2 ай бұрын

Already Filler patch, I don’t like where this is going. The New Characters are meh looking. I don’t feel the need to play at all, maybe in 1.3

@wraithhe 2 ай бұрын

Like genshins 1.1, 1.3, 1.4 weren't fillers bruh

@dshearwf 2 ай бұрын

I think I said in another video of you... It's a gacha. Open world or not, they are limited in their gameplay kind of. Like... what do you expect to do in the game? Like what would be satisfying in a content cadence? This genre is about acquiring and raising characters first and foremost. That's the centre of monetization and appeal factor for players. Genshin kinda innovated on adding an open world to it with a huge continuated story. WuWa evolved from that and now tries to sprinkle in actual "deeper" gameplay/combat itself. But they are still restrained in what they can push out. It's actually a ton of work producing an actual content patch and you also need to take care of the average players content completion rate. There is no pvp, no leaderboards, no multiplayer core (except echo grinding). It's just limited by game design and monetization (banners being 3ish weeks). What you are kind of "longing" for, it sounds like, is a full blown MMO or something. A gacha is just a tamagochi side dish. Just by nature of them being timegated with stamina system. For comparison, I actually enjoyed playing through the limited summer area in Genshin and experiencing the event story from start to finish and 100%ing the map. That gave me a good satisfying fill and Natlan is around the corner. That's enough for a gacha. Same for WuWa. They are at the start, we got the first additional region and the next one is announced for 1.3 and then there is already leaks for 2.0. Like I really feel that's a good cadence so far, except for some hiccups on release and they need to coordinate a bit. What's the point of dropping huge content right with Genshin's biggest release? That's no sensible fight to pick, for no side. But one thing though is true though: Echo grinding is horrible. Tacet field drops are not even close to giving you enough echos to use, the world map grind is needed but absolutely boring trash on UL60/lvl 90, there should be no reason to be it such a drag so far into the game with the horrible upgrade/substat roll rates. It's way too timeconsuming and boring right now. But I am sure that's on their radar as well some point down the line. TLDR : Play Elden Ring.

@abhiss6705 2 ай бұрын

I swear man , people are way too overstimulated on these gacha games. Without understanding that they are secondary/ complementary games.

@SirMitsuruji5 2 ай бұрын

Cant even bother with 1.2 events lmao. Man i play this fukcing games for one reason. COMBAT. Everything else for me is just trash, even if it's not for me it is. I do not care about building events, i dont care about characters stories. But for those who enjoy it fine. :) have fun

@deliro8758 2 ай бұрын

For me the game clearly lacks character, I can't even put my finger on it but all the characters weirdly feel the same in combat with the forte gauge mechanic and are not quirky and unique enough outside of combat either. I constantly wonder why I should even bother when I can just get another character next month that kinda looks the same and will be good enough to clear for sure.

@JustPassingBy00 2 ай бұрын

I'm still good with WuWa since i only do echo grinding every weekend . As for weekdays, I only farm materials for upgrades since I just got to Union Level 60 . I even have 67 crystal solvents saved for future needs . It's HSR that I'm getting bored of hahah . Maybe it's because Mihoyo loves to release new characters that directly powercreep old ones . The thing is powercreep is not an issue in WuWa since that game is all about dodge especially at r0 so if I only want to play 3 dps characters of my choice, then it is still passable unlike Mihoyo games . As for HSR all I need are Acheron's and Firefly's team and im good to go . After i got those two i forgot that my FuA and Kafka team exist . Well for now I'll stick with HSR alongside WuWa and Arknights .

@KePzez 2 ай бұрын

tbf, Kuro have a bad habit of creating this long lull of basicaly doing nothing in their game design. PGR suffers from this as well, but we got used to it, what they lack in quantity they make up in quality, Plus the devs do listen to their playerbase so who knows, maybe we will see an increase in events in future patches so that the last week of each patch wont feel too boring as well giving us dedicated players more rewards.

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

I think they need to take advantage of Co-op. They can implement raid type events which imo would be one of the best things. Maybe they really are just holding back

@KePzez 2 ай бұрын

@@TiredOfFeelings oh they will do exactly that. After all they did test a bunch of shit in PGR, most notably is when they run a Monster Hunter Event in PGR where you and 2 other idiots fight black and white mecha nergigante, that was a fun event, tho a bit rusty, but Im sure when they start implementing raid boss events in WUWA they'll make sure its polished, when it came to Kuro its a waiting game, patience is key, they're game design favors people that can work towards a long term goal.

@Junesong_777 Ай бұрын

this is some real cope. What quality in PGR? The content that comes out in that game puts you to sleep.

@KePzez Ай бұрын

@@Junesong_777 its a matter of taste, I like it so I enjoy it, tho I burn through their content pretty fast and the game becomes very boring real quick, but I always did like tower of Babel or any content involving a challenge.

@akiko2096 2 ай бұрын

Yes I have nothing to do after completing exploration and have nothing to do in game/ I want to play it and it was so much fun but i Just have lost my interest until probably 2.0.

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

It felt after the story and just a little bit of exploring it didn't have much to do in the game. Idk how they made the new area feel so dead 😢

@kcelenemkrishnan7778 2 ай бұрын

Gacha games aren't meant to keep you entertained all the time. You're supposed to be other games that aren't gacha to occupy your time.

@maevethefox5912 2 ай бұрын

I feel like there's just something with the atmosphere or colouring or something in the game that makes it feel like a drag? The gameplay is honestly fun, but every time I play it for more than 20 minutes I end up just feel ... tired and bad? I don't know how else to explain it.

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

I personally love the combat system of the game, I love the game itself, I just don't feel to play when most of the time it's just to log in, spend waveplates and log out. I never had a problem with the atmosphere of the game but I had a couple of friends dropped the game because they said it looked depressing

@hijodelsoldeoriente 2 ай бұрын

I think that's a "you" problem and not the game. For me personally, I prefer less-saturated post-apocalyptic settings. It's oddly calming to me that the oversaturated world of most JRPG-inspired games and inspired gachas like Genshin. Funny enough, I think the post-apocalyptic atmosphere, saves for the northern parts, are far and few between. I want them to go all out post-apocalyptic. Not bright and happy a la Genshin.

@absolutelyabsolute4671 2 ай бұрын

ah that feeling is the same when I play death stranding and as you can see, death stranding is one of WuWa's inspirations

@NICSU667 2 ай бұрын

The game is apocalyptic theme you can't expect all sunshines and rainbow and be bright. The game leans on a world where the atmosphere and gravity became disoriented because of the discord invasion same as War of the worlds where the Tripod invaded humanity and change the atmosphere into redish appearance.

@miramaxcinemax5512 2 ай бұрын

I would love for it to be dark and apocalyptic. But they are going for Genshin brighter atmosphere, and at the same time trying to be darker, so at the end its neither and looks like bland shit

@mybeaniebooz9601 2 ай бұрын

Im too busy and havent played the game enough so i still have a lot of content

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

😂🤣😂

@Pentvon 2 ай бұрын

Lol

@miramaxcinemax5512 2 ай бұрын

How do you make gacha game not about characters? thats why everyone plays them😅 The problem is that they need to release a new patch every month and a half. You can't make enough of a decent content in that time for it to last even a month. Only if player plays the game only once in a while. Which people do, on the phones.

@BlazeSwigglePlayzMc 2 ай бұрын

I means its a gacha, all gachas will at some point become daily simulators where all you do is login and spend your energy then dip out. Theres not one single gacha game that has infinite loop of content unless you are behind (started later down the line), has some form of pvp that doesn't requiere energy or just don't have the time to do things as they come out. But the joy of gachas being like this is you can play anything else, you are not obligated to spend more than your daily 15 min (or less) on the game. You can spend that time playing other gachas and rotate between them or just legit treat it as a side game and play "normal" games. As someone who works, plays other stuff and hangs out with friends wuwa being the way it is right now is perfectly fine BUT if possible I do want themto add more combat focused modes that reset and offer rewards. People need to understand gachas by design will ALWAYS be inferior to the genre of game they are imitating, because the way the gacha model works you need to lock progression behind time limits, resource farming is limited, powercreep is inevitable, the need to sell new banners, hook players with a neverending story, and much more. Gachas are meant to be side games you come back to for short periods of time a day, stuff you play on your phone while you're going to work or on a lunch break. Why do you thing think the east are always the top spenders? Cause these people are overworked beyond belief and gachas are a nice way to waste time with out having to own an expensive PC and for the most part have attractive characters.

@profchaos7289 2 ай бұрын

idk man, the game reward me a lot of stuff, i mean a lot more compare to any other gacha games that i've played before, 6 characters (included Yinlin, Jinhsi, Zhezhi), 6 weapons( 4/5 standard weapon banner and Yinlin + Jinhsi weapon). But somehow it's still kinda boring, the world seems big and empty that i don't bother exploring it and 1 more thing because it requires some skillful hands for bosses which i'm not that kind of player. Guess it's about time to drop this game, after all i still grateful it for giving me a new experience

@dr.strange1300 2 ай бұрын

Wuthering has been literally THE MOST boring game ive played, ive played enough gachas to get a feel for filler patches or justndead periods but holy shit this game has probably the WORST dead periods.

@wraithhe 2 ай бұрын

Must've never played genshin when had the fucking Ayaka banner for 42 days and nothing to do bruh

@dr.strange1300 2 ай бұрын

@wraithhe Oh I played it trust, but that was due to external factors like covid and whatnot so it was unavoidable.

@insepra 2 ай бұрын

Don't play wuwa anymore but just commenting to say that obviously what you are describing is the DNA of what a triple A gacha is. Hype patches and Filler patches. The spending audience for these games are people who don't have time to play all the time so it will never be an abundance of content. It is a formula that has been successful for years in other games and it's going to always be like that. I'd advise you to temper your expectations of wuwa, might be different devs but same business.

@brunorivest 2 ай бұрын

I think you don't have that hype for the future in Wuwa, because the story is still at its early stage. Plus, it was developed as closed chapters centered around characters. If you take Genshin, people are hype about the future because they have many story hooks that can carry them. We have the Fatui's plot and intention that are mysterious and interesting. Also each region has it's own twist and Archon story development. On the top of that, we have the search for the twin and also the Abyss and Celestia lurking far behind in the background. In Wuwa, we haven't all that yet. Even the main antagonist in game is not so clear at the moment. We can gain that hype for the future if Kuro does it job well in presenting an interesting antagonist (enemy) in the game story. They can do so with the Fractsidus faction I think. If they take that direction, we will know more about them soon in 1.2 and 1.3 I think. Time will tell.

@nmjdf_ksd23 2 ай бұрын

Ah this topic again, even HSR, being the gacha gaming golden standard, is just a daily login game with "no content" after finishing MoC, AC and PoF weeklies. I'm not sure why people are being hypocrites expecting wuwa to have 16 hours of content for you to grind every day for every patch cycle. It's just the reality of gacha games. The start of HSR was also really bland the first two patches weren't anything big but then it popped off. I understand why people are thinking it's boring as i 100%ed Mt. Firmament in about 2 days, so to me 1.1 was also kinda lacking in terms of content. I'll probably finish 1.2 in a day or so but the thing is, i really like the game so much as Kuro does combat the best imo and their kits (I also play PGR, ZZZ) are really technical and have depth, they also have character designs which i resonate with the most and their boss fights are really good, no the holograms bosses are nothing compared to what they could potentially do, taking reference from PGR. Sure i'm disappointed with what 1.2 has in terms of content but i'm willing to wait for them to cook as there isn't really any other company who can do combat like they can. In terms of captivating the audience, it's really their decision. I'm sure they are aware of what their doing as they have a goldmine on their hands (PGR earned 2-3m monthly). Maybe the have data that majority of the players who generate them the most revenue haven't finished most of the content? Though i think 7 weeks patch cycle is a big mistake from kuro personally, I treat gachas as side games and i still think it's too long.

@deliro8758 2 ай бұрын

I'm sure 7 week cycle is not a choice but a necessity. They are in 1.2 and can't keep up with the content already, people are severely underestimating the achievement that Genshin is, pumping out open world content every 6 weeks is incredible. And even "filler" patches in Genshin usually have more stuff than big patches in other games. They have the money sure, but they gambled on it in the beginning when no one knew if it would take off. Kuro is in no way able to compete with that, their focus should be combat events and new end game modes, as quickly as possible. Trying to feed that insatiable open world monster will break them

@happygolucky555 2 ай бұрын

I can clear 30 stars on TOA. So it is good that wuwa has downtime and i can just do dailies then go play zzz as both games are fun.

@Compass360G 2 ай бұрын

I'm late 😢

@TiredOfFeelings 2 ай бұрын

😆😆😆 damn bro

@Compass360G 2 ай бұрын

@@TiredOfFeelings 💀😢😢😢

@mhbarney8499 2 ай бұрын

I am sick of this topic. There are only a view games out there that wont get boring so easily when playing it every day...and I count real games in it btw. If we only count gacha games...its even more natural. You play a lot if a new Update releases and you play less after you have finished everything. Thats it. No reason to open that topic every new gacha. I hate devending gacha games because there is nothing good in those games...and if you defend them you already lost to those scamy companies.

@battz7252 2 ай бұрын

The game's not boring its the community im gettin tired of.

@Synocra 2 ай бұрын

havent watched the vid but its because theres no content left to play except dailies and holograms/tower, you and I have both completed everything there is in the game till 1.1(because of WuWa actually respects your time and lets you complete everything really fast unlike genshin). So, I think complaining is a bit redundant imo

@latitude990 2 ай бұрын

The problem I have with WuWa is that it combines "good" aspects of many other gacha games, but it doesn't contain the best aspects (besides QoL/pulls). The combat is great, but less fun than Genshin. The roguelike mode is great, but less fun than HSR's Sim Universe. The one thing that WuWa does better than any other game is the exploration. I wish they would utilize the open world more with events, otherwise I'd rather mess around in the Hoyo games. Even when you look at past Genshin events, they had ones where you would dig around for treasure and fight enemies just to claim your rewards for the day. WuWa could do the same thing, except they could take it SOOOO much further since their player base isn't a majority of mobile players that just play for 10 minutes a day on their phone. Players enjoy WuWa for stuff like hologram boss challenges, endlessly farming echoes, solo'ing the level 120 sabertooth with Chixia or Yuanwu, etc. The devs could go all-out, but I think they're just falling into the "Genshin but our version" trap. They gotta start innovating and adding new stuff or people will get bored.

@Anika9691 2 ай бұрын

Combat in genshin is more fun than wuwa😂😂😂 that's crazy talk, girl.

@hijodelsoldeoriente 2 ай бұрын

I disagree on some points. Especially the combat, it can't have a better combat but less fun. Better combat usually follows that it's more fun. As for the rogue-like, it's really incomparable to a turn-based game despite the mode of the content being similar. The fundamental difference in combat still affects how the rogue-like is made. I agree with them innovating more. Not saying that they haven't cause they do in most aspects even the story presentation is miles better with the dynamic animations and dialogue scenes. But they need to do more than just be a better Genshin. And they could really start with the very simple thing of adding permanent combat-based content. If they could do it in PGR, they could do it in WuWa.