Is Your PEX Tubing at Risk? The Truth About Uponor's Blue & Red PEX Lawsuit!

[@dwightsmith5174]

Thank you for the info. Had not yet heard about this issue.

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Thank you for the info. Had not yet heard about this issue.

[@straytrons3450]

My FD has had several Special Detail (everything from cat in a tree to water leaks the homeowner can't turn off or find a valve) calls with this tubing in homes built in the last few years. Properly installed copper pluming is always the best way to go. It's more expensive, but a couple thousand $'s for the install is much better than 10's of thousands of $'s of damage and days or weeks of repairs later.

[@Proinspectsolutions]

You’re right-copper has stood the test of time for a reason. Proper planning and installation make all the difference!

[@Tomana_]

that the company added a color sheath instead of the color being in the tubing should have been an immediate red flag before buying it

[@arthurmiller8336]

I have seen other videos about the lawsuits about it and I have knowing about it for a long time now

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Thanks for sharing! Staying informed is key when it comes to your home's plumbing. If you ever have concerns about your PEX pipes, a professional inspection can help identify potential issues. Let us know if we can assist!

[@arthurmiller8336]

So have they fixed the problem now or they still selling bad pipes and what about the clear pipes they make????

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Thanks for your question! Manufacturers have addressed many past issues, but product quality varies by brand and type. Clear PEX pipes are typically designed for specific uses and meet industry standards. A professional inspection can help ensure your system is safe and durable-feel free to reach out if you'd like assistance!

[@rheuss1]

The problem extends to all pex a to a lesser extent. A the stretching process to Blame along with the heat treating. And chlorinated water makes it worse It’s a very complex issue .

[@Drillmechanic]

Heat treatment of PEX-A is a basic manufacturing process and is independent of the color of the pipe!

[@Proinspectsolutions]

You're right-heat treatment in PEX-A manufacturing is independent of pipe color.

[@theronwolf3296]

Except for one spot, I put in all that pex myself. Fortunately almost all my pex is in basement runners so leaks should be easily visible.

[@Proinspectsolutions]

It's great that you were able to install most of the PEX yourself! Keeping an eye on those basement runners will definitely help catch any leaks early.

[@mrcryptozoic817]

I did too...but used B.

[@danlaur7973]

Its pronounced "oopinor"

[@akshonclip]

This is exactly why I won’t use any but copper with sweat joints. No “ProPress” either. Every contractor that has been around long enough remembers CPVC and Polybutylene issues

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Great point! There’s definitely peace of mind in sticking with tried-and-true materials like copper with sweat joints. History has taught us a lot about material reliability, and it's always better to be cautious when it comes to something as critical as plumbing or wiring!

[@topfell8277]

Damn right only copper for me.Been sweating for yesrs

[@redbaron6805]

There is no guarantee the sweat was done correctly, or is any better than ProPress fittings. Ultimately, people just gravitate to what they know and are used to. You talk to 10 different plumbers, and everyone will swear by a certain method, whether it is CPVC, Pex, Copper or other type of plumbing. It all depends on the installation, the water type, temperature, environmental factors and dozens of other factors...

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Copper plumbing is too expensive for most home owners.

[@redbaron6805]

@@JohnLee-db9zt Plumbing is less that 5% of the construction cost of a home, so it is unlikely to be a significant factor...

[@blackpine6693]

Yes …..nothing like degrading plastic in one’s water supply……I would not buy any house with plastic water lines……

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! While it's true that material choice is important, modern PEX systems like Uponor's are rigorously tested for durability and safety. They're widely trusted for their resistance to corrosion and freezing. Always a good idea to explore all options to find what works best for your needs!

[@danlaur7973]

There is nothing better than soldered type L copper tubing, it will last the life of the house

[@shanewalters7411]

@@danlaur7973 until it freezes

[@shanewalters7411]

Good chance you have PVC in your yard.

[@billkraemer4710]

I live in Phoenix,AZ. If a building material is not metal or stone, it does not belong in this desert. PEX is just so much rat and mouse bait.

[@redbaron6805]

It can be, but there is no one size fits all. My area has a massive problem with hard water causing pitting and leaks in copper pipes. I have had to spend thousands of dollars to fix copper pipes already. PEX can freeze without bursting, copper can't. While that is not an issue in my area, it is a huge issue in other areas. There is no perfect plumbing type. They all have their advantages and drawbacks.

[@Proinspectsolutions]

I totally understand your concerns about PEX in a desert environment. It's important to consider the durability of materials in harsh climates!

[@Proinspectsolutions]

You make a great point! Every plumbing material comes with its own set of pros and cons, and it's important to weigh them based on local conditions. Hard water can definitely be a challenge for copper pipes!

[@blackpine6693]

Rat and mouse knowing can occur anywhere …also squirrels……..problematic here on the east coast…..

[@luisalthaus7249]

Yes they just love to munch on it.

[@DanWright-w7x]

there other companies that make PEX pipe that don't have this problem .

[@Proinspectsolutions]

You're absolutely right! There are other manufacturers of PEX piping that don't experience these problems. It's always a good idea to research options and choose a reliable brand for long-term performance. Thank you for sharing!

[@peacefulscrimp5183]

This is hilarious because I was always told this crap was already tested in all conditions to last for 50 years and more.🙄

[@harveyconner2445]

this video is not showing uponor products and he cant even pronounce the name uponor correctly.

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Thank you for your feedback! We appreciate you pointing that out. Accurate representation and pronunciation are important, and we’ll strive to do better in the future. Your input helps us improve!

[@gsmboutiqueable]

Im in the field for year and never heard about any problem with pex tubing or uponor issues, this video sounds like a f*** clickbait

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Thank you for sharing your perspective! While PEX and Uponor products are widely trusted, there have been discussions in the field regarding specific failure scenarios under certain conditions. This video aims to shed light on those cases to help homeowners and professionals stay informed. For additional insight, here's a link to a licensed plumber’s take on the subject: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3yrln-Lgtx2grssi=nRewRHEivOkM9kWQ. I appreciate your experience and welcome any input that could help expand the conversation!

[@purdyboi807]

So, a whole year in the field huh? Wow. If that's the case, then I guess it would help explain the reason _why_ there's a whole shit-ton of things that you've never heard about. For example...doing your own research or, maybe, thinking *_before_* you speak

[@arthurmiller8336]

Some of the problems I have seen in other videos about are people not installing the fittings right and doing in cold weather will cause a lot of problems with it you're the man I think his name is Joe Ludlow a repiping specialist he has said it is failing because it is reacting with the chlorine and different chemicals in the water he has a whole channel about it and he seems like he knows what he's talking about he shows you the bad pipes I mean you can think or believe whatever you want and this is still a fairly new product so it hasn't been around long enough to know

[@thomasschwarting5108]

You're making a blanket statement about ALL pex tubing. Uponor IS NOT the only company that makes it, so just be aware of that company name and make sure you buy another brand!

[@Proinspectsolutions]

"Thanks for your comment! You're absolutely right-there are many manufacturers of PEX tubing, and the intent of this video was to focus specifically on the issues with Uponor’s red and blue PEX plumbing. We appreciate the suggestion and will consider creating another video to cover other defective brands as well as highlight reliable ones. Your feedback helps us make better content, so stay tuned for more updates!"

[@OJF300]

There

[@OJF300]

There is no recall or active class-action suit. Your link to the CSPC reveals zero information regarding Uponor or Wirsbo Pex. If this is genuine then please provide the details rather than sensational theatrics. All the Uponor products mentioned remain available and under warranty. The video seems like clickbait.

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! While Uponor products remain available and under warranty, the focus of this video was on a specific issue tied to discontinued red and blue Uponor PEX piping. There was indeed a class-action lawsuit regarding these failures, which was ultimately dismissed after a settlement was reached. For more details, you can check out this resource: www.classaction.org/news/discontinued-red-blue-uponor-pex-piping-plagued-by-cracking-defect-class-action-alleges. I appreciate you engaging in the conversation, and I’m here to keep the information transparent and helpful!

[@gsmboutiqueable]

I will save you 5:00 minutes in your live, this video is a clickbait

[@Proinspectsolutions]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! The goal of this video was to inform and educate viewers about Uponor PEX failures, which is a topic discussed by many professionals in the industry. If you're looking for additional insights, check out this licensed plumber’s take on the matter here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3yrln-Lgtx2grssi=nRewRHEivOkM9kWQ. We value constructive feedback and aim to provide helpful content, so let us know how we can improve future videos!

[@redbaron6805]

It obviously isn't Clickbait.... There have been multiple lawsuits against Uponor and other companies related to PEX plumbing products, including: George v. Uponor, Inc. A class action lawsuit alleging that Uponor's brass PEX fittings were defective and caused water leaks and economic losses. NIBCO PEX Plumbing Product Class Action Lawsuit A class action lawsuit alleging that NIBCO's PEX tubing, fittings, and clamps were prone to failure and caused water damage. The settlement was $43.5 million and provided relief for past and future failures. Uponor settled a class action in 2018 for $18 million over the use of a zinc-heavy form of brass in its Wirsbo PEX plumbing. Uponor also settled the class action lawsuit earlier this year, so there was obviously an issue there.

[@RenoGerry]

I'll take sweated copper pipe and maybe a few pinhole leaks over 50 years than dealing with burst plastic pipe any day.

[@seanm3226]

Actually this “plastic” pipe will expand in the event of frozen pipes. Copper won’t.

[@ryanhealey239]

You only need to worry about freezing if it's installed wrong. Qualified installers won't run a water supply where it would freeze. New isn't necessarily better.

[@RenoGerry]

@@ryanhealey239 You can still run copper to an outside hose bibb but you need to install an interior shutoff. Close the inside then open the outside shutoff during freezing weather. Never had a broken copper pipe.

[@redbaron6805]

@@ryanhealey239 No, freezing pipes are a huge issue in all areas, as hose bibs and other areas are exposed to freezing weather, and a home that isn't insulated correctly can have pipes freeze.

[@redbaron6805]

@@RenoGerry I have had to replace thousands of dollars worth of copper pipes, with slap leaks that where massively expensive and difficult to bypass, and my house is barely 30 years old. And I'm not the only one, it is a plague in my entire area. There isn't a one size fits all for plumbing. It all depends on the water type, environmental factors and how it was installed. With PEX, you can often have manifolds that can shut off individual pipes to every faucet and appliance. That is rarely ever done with copper, having to turn off the main water valve or nothing.