Is Zion Williamson TOO BIG? Doctor Explains Medical SCIENCE and RESEARCH Behind Concerns

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Brian Sutterer MD

Brian Sutterer MD

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Zion Williamson was supposed to be one of the biggest stories and stars of the 2019-2020 NBA season for the New Orleans Pelicans. But he still hasn't made his season debut after having surgery to remove some damaged meniscus tissue in his knee, and there are additional concerns around NBA communities regarding his current weight and how it could affect his career longevity. In this video I'll explain the medical evidence behind why I think this is a legitimate discussion to have regarding Zion Williamson's NBA career.
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REFERENCES:
(a) Messier SP, Gutekunst DJ, Davis C, Devita P. “Weight loss reduces knee joint loads in overweight and obese older adults with knee osteoarthritis” Arthritis Rheum. 2005 Jul:52(7):2026-32. PMID: 15986358
(b) Erdil M et al, “Does obesity negatively affect the functional results of arthroscopic partial meniscectomy? A retrospective cohort study” Arthroscopy. 2013 Feb;29(2):232-7. PMID 23270789
(c) Felson DT, Anderson JJ, Naimark A, Walker AM, Meenan RF: Obesity and knee osteoarthritis: The Framingham study. Ann.Int.Med. 1988;109:18-2
(d) Ahmed A, and Burke D: In-vitro measurement of static pressure distribution in synovial joints. Part I: tibial surface of the knee. J Biomech Eng 1983; 105: pp. 216-225
(e) Fukubayashi T, and Kurosawa H: The contact area and pressure distribution pattern of the knee: a study of normal and osteoarthrotic knee joints. Acta Orthop Scand 1980; 51: pp. 871-879
(f) Alford JW, Lewis P, Kang RW, et al: Rapid progression of chondral disease in the lateral compartment of the knee following meniscectomy. Arthroscopy 2005; 21: pp. 1505-1509
DISCLAIMER: Content not intended to be taken as medical advice. Opinions are my own and do not represent those of my employer. I have not personally treated or evaluated the individual(s) discussed in this video. Content used with educational and transformative intent within Fair Use Guidelines
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@BrianSuttererMD
@BrianSuttererMD 4 жыл бұрын
BMI in NBA players? Check out this study of NBA players showing there was a significant association with mensicus tears and BMI > 25. So yes, I do think it's still relevant. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22130472/
@jeffreyyoungblood7438
@jeffreyyoungblood7438 4 жыл бұрын
BMI is literally the worst indicator of anything. Association is merely a correlation, doesn't mean it caused anything. BMI doesnt account for differences in bone structure and pretends we are all built the same. It's a trash stat that is almost worthless. He isn't obese. That's just ridiculous. But according to BMI he is? Just shows you how dumb of an indicator it is...
@Patchesmcgee123
@Patchesmcgee123 4 жыл бұрын
You can cite any article you want, this is complete garbage science and as an "MD" you know it! BMI has long been a useless indicator, because (as I'm sure you know) there is no account for lean mass percentage. This also negates any article which attributes meniscus tears to BMI. For starters, how do you measure the fact that someone with a high BMI might have tons of muscle, developed through lifting weights, which has during the process strengthened their tendons and joints too. You can't measure that if you use BMI! This is a garbage video.
@urjj2982
@urjj2982 4 жыл бұрын
What about all the muscle BMI doesn't account for
@leowilliams5271
@leowilliams5271 4 жыл бұрын
But muscular is heavier than fat ...
@evanjames8817
@evanjames8817 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Youngblood I tried to tell him. He’s stubborn and won’t listen. Thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.
@OhNoFroBro
@OhNoFroBro 4 жыл бұрын
Zion's knees "slow down big fella I need a break"😂 Hopefully he makes a full recovery
@thetruth4808
@thetruth4808 4 жыл бұрын
Weak ass joke buddy a knee injury is the main thing you don't want in a sport
@Zen-vm5tc
@Zen-vm5tc 4 жыл бұрын
The Truth you’re truly the life of the party.
@PrestonsDen
@PrestonsDen 4 жыл бұрын
Zenopos III shit just had me on the floor 😂
@Adrian101882
@Adrian101882 4 жыл бұрын
The Truth show us on the doll where the words hurt you the most
@dulla93
@dulla93 4 жыл бұрын
FroBeast 500th Like
@lazaruseffect7212
@lazaruseffect7212 4 жыл бұрын
Brian coming in with the toxic beat. Mad respect.
@Dark033Production
@Dark033Production 2 жыл бұрын
Two years later and you were absolutely right about zion
@elirane85
@elirane85 Жыл бұрын
3 years later and it's even more accurate
@jah_gk3092
@jah_gk3092 4 жыл бұрын
“Zion is the shortest of this group at just 6ft6”. JUST 6FT6
@andrewburney8075
@andrewburney8075 4 жыл бұрын
Ya taco fall is 7ft6... Jokic 7"1, Boban 7"3... Zion is absolutely massive for his height
@youngneo5299
@youngneo5299 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to 7 foot plus ya
@ThrillFinity
@ThrillFinity 4 жыл бұрын
JAH_GK you do realize we are talking about the NBA ?
@sharifbrown3567
@sharifbrown3567 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewburney8075 Jokic is 7'1? I thought he was like 6'11
@Eric-lx8hp
@Eric-lx8hp 4 жыл бұрын
That's still below NBA average
@Paulsicles
@Paulsicles 4 жыл бұрын
Big Baby Davis ain't even top 5 with all that booty cake?!
@Poohbear55
@Poohbear55 4 жыл бұрын
Paulsicles lol I was thinking the same thing.
@johanexxxx
@johanexxxx 4 жыл бұрын
Current NBA players*
@jakeall-americandiner1668
@jakeall-americandiner1668 4 жыл бұрын
@@johanexxxx like shaq?
@unclestepback3460
@unclestepback3460 4 жыл бұрын
Baby Davis isn’t top 5 currently nor is he top 5 all time which is what was discussed
@kingrobinho777
@kingrobinho777 4 жыл бұрын
Ight that was sus asl
@m0uze282
@m0uze282 4 жыл бұрын
Zion should be out there catching passes from Tom Brady at TE.
@apailofwater1108
@apailofwater1108 4 жыл бұрын
M0UZE stop
@onelove2349
@onelove2349 4 жыл бұрын
Apailofwater fuck outa here clown 😂
@kjeezy2990
@kjeezy2990 4 жыл бұрын
Go pats
@romiarkan450
@romiarkan450 4 жыл бұрын
Sure because Brady really needs another Gronk to get him out of jail
@youngcitybandit
@youngcitybandit 4 жыл бұрын
@@romiarkan450 youre delusional
@overflowbeats6965
@overflowbeats6965 4 жыл бұрын
he put a trap beat as the outro of a medical video. I'm equally dead and impressed at the power of trap.
@raymond4955
@raymond4955 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the term *T H I C C* but ok
@steakonfire
@steakonfire 4 жыл бұрын
T H I C C u mean
@Paqqqman
@Paqqqman 4 жыл бұрын
Trend much? Ughh I'm now waiting for the 'ok boomer' reply ..all though I'm not a 'boomer'.
@Jepperd_
@Jepperd_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@Paqqqman ok boomer
@Paqqqman
@Paqqqman 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jepperd_ Congrats on your effort
@Silver_Bullet1999
@Silver_Bullet1999 4 жыл бұрын
Ticc
@usr2842
@usr2842 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is faster than prime D-Rose the it comes to uploading I literally just saw Zion pop up on the twitter TL
@RealJohnSlinkman
@RealJohnSlinkman 4 жыл бұрын
@@MishimaTyler he's talking about the uploader
@naufal6174
@naufal6174 4 жыл бұрын
I swear everytime there's a player injured this guy already have a video about that in the next day.
@thecrackmadafakas8604
@thecrackmadafakas8604 4 жыл бұрын
It's not faster than d rose, u stoopid or what
@giannis5868
@giannis5868 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecrackmadafakas8604 R/woosh I think you're stupid😘
@bencheveryday
@bencheveryday 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you left your references in the description like an actual meta-analysis.....just in case any of us read medical studies in our profession.
@aaronbeckner1419
@aaronbeckner1419 4 жыл бұрын
Some of us do lol.
@macklinkirkley8301
@macklinkirkley8301 4 жыл бұрын
Get this man a job on espn or something to do with the nba
@anthonytorro7554
@anthonytorro7554 4 жыл бұрын
Why? We have this content at our fingertips on censored unfiltered let him be his own boss here on youtube
@CEOofSleep
@CEOofSleep 4 жыл бұрын
So they can control his content???? No thanks
@jeffreyyoungblood7438
@jeffreyyoungblood7438 4 жыл бұрын
No. He's better on his own. I could see him being a guest on segments tho
@BrianSuttererMD
@BrianSuttererMD 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely easier to stay on here. Id love to do guest appearances on TV and podcasts though
@korenberoeatwarin855
@korenberoeatwarin855 4 жыл бұрын
Learn how to lie first
@tannermcboss4710
@tannermcboss4710 4 жыл бұрын
He definitely wearing shirt and tie with underwear
@Dontbustthecrust
@Dontbustthecrust 4 жыл бұрын
What color?
@MrSurvivalgecoLP
@MrSurvivalgecoLP 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick O'Donnell Yellow-ish white
@divineangel606
@divineangel606 4 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't he have underwear?
@googlesucks2484
@googlesucks2484 4 жыл бұрын
GoodFella lol
@brianbcj
@brianbcj 4 жыл бұрын
Hell nawl 🤣 💀 😂 🤣🤣 u are soooo stupid
@simplycy919
@simplycy919 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is so good man. I appreciate your succinct information and delivery 👌 Glad to see your subs blowin up!
@BrianSuttererMD
@BrianSuttererMD 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@isaacadams6898
@isaacadams6898 4 жыл бұрын
Some TV network needs to pay this man a lot of money to be a part of their programming
@Freshy_Jones
@Freshy_Jones 4 жыл бұрын
Isaac Adams nerdy nigga network
@jeffreyyoungblood7438
@jeffreyyoungblood7438 4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@MartyFriedmanJr
@MartyFriedmanJr 4 жыл бұрын
Isaac Adams it'll probably happen eventually. this channel is growing rapidly. all it takes is the right person to stumble upon it
@scarecrow0774
@scarecrow0774 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 because he breaks down medical knowledge really well, and can describe the injuries to the fans in a very simple yet engaging way that it keeps us interested, and learning. This dude is great!
@slibsterrrya1727
@slibsterrrya1727 4 жыл бұрын
Isaac Adams I swear to god
@iAmTaiBoogie
@iAmTaiBoogie 4 жыл бұрын
News: zion hurts his knee First 48: he kneed some milk
@9chilidog
@9chilidog 4 жыл бұрын
Body-positive cult members, “ You’re just scared of a curvaceous black man”
@yusufcagowayne1990
@yusufcagowayne1990 4 жыл бұрын
Body positive movement is the only movement without movement
@TheJiBTorres
@TheJiBTorres 4 жыл бұрын
@@yusufcagowayne1990 fnniest thing i have read in 2019. really
@killmonger8724
@killmonger8724 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@vickhj6333
@vickhj6333 4 жыл бұрын
"cult members" 💀 describes em perfectly
@ngwanawamobu8990
@ngwanawamobu8990 4 жыл бұрын
wtf 🤣🤣
@teowwe35
@teowwe35 4 жыл бұрын
ESPN : Zion will be out for 6-8 weeks Brian: Imma end ESPN's whole career
@zane_wiley
@zane_wiley 4 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine a 6'6" 215lb muscular Zion Williamson? He would be either an SF or an SG and he would be about the size of Danny Green, DeMarre Carroll, James Ennis III, Ryan Broekhoff, Thabo Sefolosha, or Troy Brown Jr.
@ethanthomas260
@ethanthomas260 4 жыл бұрын
235-245 is more realistic but yea
@zane_wiley
@zane_wiley 4 жыл бұрын
@@ethanthomas260 fair. That way he could still play SF and have a little bit of weight to his advantage
@vastoform
@vastoform 4 жыл бұрын
He's very muscular though
@zane_wiley
@zane_wiley 4 жыл бұрын
@@vastoform yes, but if he was leaner
@u13erfitz
@u13erfitz 4 жыл бұрын
OsamaBinStrappin that’s the problem joints don’t care if your fat or muscular. Weight is weight. Also this would be less an issue if he only does forceful actions once a week. He has to do dozens of max force actions per game. Human joints can’t handle it.
@alvindoblon2338
@alvindoblon2338 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's just on LOOOOAAAAD MANAGEMENT
@trey525
@trey525 4 жыл бұрын
Grunty Gunterson Chris Smoove 😂
@angeloslois3178
@angeloslois3178 4 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAD MAAANAAGEMENT😂😂
@jeffreyyoungblood7438
@jeffreyyoungblood7438 4 жыл бұрын
I imagined this in Chris broussard LEBRAAAAAN accent 😂
@TheGrindcorps
@TheGrindcorps 4 жыл бұрын
He will be his whole careee.
@TheGrindcorps
@TheGrindcorps 4 жыл бұрын
Vinh N No, you just said players are injured more because you are talking out of your ass. You absolutely have no proof whatsoever. It’s awfully hard to even gather reliable data from say 1950 on injury rate, let alone actually determine causality. Why are you making stiff up?
@0-Elias-0
@0-Elias-0 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Sutter: "Dexter Pittman was an overweight NBA player." Me: "Who's Dexter Pittman?" Dexter Pittman's own momma: "IKR, who is that guy?"
@Sticktothemodels
@Sticktothemodels 4 жыл бұрын
MaxPro did you just start watching ball? Lmao way to out yourself as a casual
@grantgaddis5754
@grantgaddis5754 4 жыл бұрын
Real Brethem Lol, you acting like he’s a casual for not knowing Dexter Pittman?!? Dude was a second round pick who played for 4 years with a career average of 2.3 points per game. He was a scrub by all accounts.
@amorodioamor4388
@amorodioamor4388 4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking most people on here are young or don't know basketball if don't know who Dexter P is. I have found most people on here don't know much about even the greats from 50's 60's and 70's. They think basketball started when Jordan or Kobe stepped on court. They don't know about guys like Kareem being 6 time MVP
@silverking2749
@silverking2749 4 жыл бұрын
i think dexter pittman is in the miami heat 2013. am i right?
@amorodioamor4388
@amorodioamor4388 4 жыл бұрын
He only played 50 games in a 4 year career. He played for several teams that year including Miami. He was 6' 11" and weighed over 300 pounds.
@dapperragnar4076
@dapperragnar4076 4 жыл бұрын
Doc, the like to dislike ratio is the best i’ve seen. Keep the quality up as always!
@erichendrickson8319
@erichendrickson8319 4 жыл бұрын
Oliver Miller looks like someone just stole his sandwich.
@KingDawg72
@KingDawg72 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Hendrickson What’s that supposed to mean? 😂
@erichendrickson8319
@erichendrickson8319 4 жыл бұрын
@@KingDawg72 He likes food duh?
@peezer77
@peezer77 4 жыл бұрын
The last dot has got to be Brandon Ingram.
@jimsmith9257
@jimsmith9257 4 жыл бұрын
peezer77 or Shaun Livingston the alien head lol
@raymondsmith2040
@raymondsmith2040 4 жыл бұрын
Deontea Murray maybe? Hes a rail to
@gosu5850
@gosu5850 4 жыл бұрын
prob Isaiah Thomas
@Matzes
@Matzes 4 жыл бұрын
@@gosu5850 BMI is weight in Relation to weight. Isiah Thomas is not skinny for his size. His BMI is probably average or above. Ingram makes more Sense, he is super skinny and quiet tall
@gosu5850
@gosu5850 4 жыл бұрын
Matz G tru
@universalturtle4836
@universalturtle4836 4 жыл бұрын
Brian you the goat man.. honestly randomly stumbled across your videos a few weeks back and always very interesting to watch.. lol you got me sitting here interested in medical evaluations 😂
@BrianSuttererMD
@BrianSuttererMD 4 жыл бұрын
Love it!!
@kofiowusu361
@kofiowusu361 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 13 years old and the way he breaks things down and explains is so easy and nice to understand and he makes it so interesting thanks and great videos man!!
@_ezderpy7687
@_ezderpy7687 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about Rodney Hood's injury?
@zeko1015
@zeko1015 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin rewind should have featured people like you. 1-Great contact 2-Helpful information 3-Awesome delivery 4-No fake thumbnails Thank you.
@cwehden
@cwehden 4 жыл бұрын
He just needs to learn to land with minimal knee impact, roll to ground, don't depend on his knees to slow his momentum to much when landing, this alone would save 80% of the wear and tear and his career.
@sosboogz2711
@sosboogz2711 3 жыл бұрын
How many years did u play sir
@katlynklassen809
@katlynklassen809 4 жыл бұрын
If you are built like that basketball is not your best game.
@seanfolan1855
@seanfolan1855 4 жыл бұрын
Katlyn Klassen somebody can make much more money in basketball though. Even if he never plays an NBA game in his life (hopefully this is not the case) he will make a lot of money.
@Al.j.Vasquez
@Al.j.Vasquez 4 жыл бұрын
He drops 20lb and he would look like LeBron, very muscular and strong, not like Barkley that was still soft.
@jorgegarcia1278
@jorgegarcia1278 4 жыл бұрын
@@Al.j.Vasquez Exactly! If he cut up even 10lbs I bet he'd be nasty.
@stunna5vegas398
@stunna5vegas398 4 жыл бұрын
@@onelove2349 first of all the NBA didn't make the 3 second rule because he was a "dog" or was dominant the reason why they made that rule change is because niggas don't won't to watch a grown ass dude put his ass against his defender all possession long every possession.
@onelove2349
@onelove2349 4 жыл бұрын
PandazCanDunk Did I say it was because he was a “Dog” ? No. I specifically said he had a rule made because of the technique he used. Regardless of what “niggas” wanted to see 😂
@joshadams8761
@joshadams8761 4 жыл бұрын
An NBA team should hire Brian to give input on draft choices.
@matthewisles6497
@matthewisles6497 4 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Heard about you from Kevin O’Connor on the Ringer NBA podcast. I’ve been asking that NBA podcasts or channels employ someone with your expertise and communications ability for many years. The Athletic or LockedOn NBA or The Ringer should hire you for regular hits, and for analysis of major injuries to key players. It’s gotten to a point where most NBA media members don’t recklessly opine or speculate about injuries, and often note, “I’m not a doctor, but...”, yet it has always seemed to me that actually having a MD to speak -in general terms- about specific injuries would improve the understanding of fans and members of the press. Kudos.
@kidracks2991
@kidracks2991 4 жыл бұрын
Stephan A. Been warning ppl about his “girth”
@Em4gdn1m
@Em4gdn1m 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. You turn complicated medical issues into stuff that everyone can understand and now I can pretend I'm a Dr at the watercooler. :)
@cameronno6039
@cameronno6039 4 жыл бұрын
It isn't just weight with him. Body mechanics are going to potentially go a long way with him. He may have to learn how to fall, how to protect himself when jumping, and potentially different ways to make the cuts and quick directional changes he makes without blowing shoes and popping knees.
@stephenpanzarella7779
@stephenpanzarella7779 4 жыл бұрын
Who else loves the timeline for the topics in the video? GREAT idea, keep up the quality work!
@christiangreenwoodet
@christiangreenwoodet 4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid Doc, you always kill it. Super compact and informative and simple for someone with little knowledge to understand. Thanks legend 🙌🏻🙌🏻 I definitely think he should lose some weight though, but only if it’s beneficial to his playing style and obviously his health.
@GigaChadow
@GigaChadow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting the references! I think another thing to mention would be the quality of rehab he’s gonna be getting in terms of the average obese person and their physical rehabilitation that occurs immediately after and weeks/months following the surgery. From research I’ve read, long term outcomes (1+years) are generally the same for general vs specific rehabs but for a high level athlete the few weeks right after do matter a lot. Just a thought, keep up the great content Dr. B!
@Dubadubadu123
@Dubadubadu123 4 жыл бұрын
Next Video: Does Brian Sutterer sleep to little?
@Gavtoocold
@Gavtoocold 4 жыл бұрын
You're videos are great man! I dont even know or really like the medical field but these videos keep me entertained.
@mohamadrizal6165
@mohamadrizal6165 4 жыл бұрын
If he can't maintain his body, his career will be like glenn "big baby" davis
@familypokemongamingchannel9936
@familypokemongamingchannel9936 4 жыл бұрын
U have the best like to dislike ratios ive ever seen. Ppl really like your content. I know u dont need the income from utube bc of your profession but i hope u get every penny u deserve from them
@trentgardiner822
@trentgardiner822 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think BMI is a horrible measurement in general, especially for athletes. Guys like JJ Watt (who is 6’5 285) are considered obese even though they are in the best shape of their lives. That being said, football is completely different game than basketball because there is not as much force coming down on the athletes knees. It would not hurt Zion to drop some weight. He obviously won’t lose that much power considering he’ll still be one of the biggest guys on the court and his longevity will be boosted.
@infinitemonkey917
@infinitemonkey917 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. BMI shouldn't even be used for athletes since it doesn't differentiate between muscle and fat.
@baller4621
@baller4621 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in relation to how much force somehow generates/puts on their body it's actually pretty useful. Especially in a case where Zion has clear mechanical issues. Those issues are exacerbated when you're 270 and landing from a 45 inch vertical.
@khalilalaqrabawi5936
@khalilalaqrabawi5936 4 жыл бұрын
JJ Watt is a terrible analogy. He is like the Zion of NFL. Athletic beast but guess what? He’s also one of the most injury prone players in the league.
@1fan-9
@1fan-9 4 жыл бұрын
Khalil Alaqrabawi he’s had a lot of upper body injuries though. Aside from the broken leg.
@obeytheshark
@obeytheshark 4 жыл бұрын
Trent Gardiner no JJ Watt is actually a monster whereas Zion is fat and could stand to lose a few pounds
@mikeclayton5182
@mikeclayton5182 4 жыл бұрын
If he doesn’t lose 50 pounds and fix the alignment of his knees his career is done before it even starts
@larrydinklepie9147
@larrydinklepie9147 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Clayton he will not lose 50lbs. He is fairly lean all weight the he loses will mostly be muscle which will hurt his game maybe he can lose 10-20. But I agree knee alignment need to be a big focus of his.
@jdelgado216
@jdelgado216 4 жыл бұрын
Kenny Smith has the same problem with his knees (or similar) but unlike Zion he wasn't jumping and falling trying to tore apart his ligaments
@Novafan
@Novafan 4 жыл бұрын
@@larrydinklepie9147 fairly lean? yeah he not a fat nigga but he most definitely not lean
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 4 жыл бұрын
Dame Time true
@nicmagtaan1132
@nicmagtaan1132 4 жыл бұрын
Charles barkley losses like about 40 lbs and he turned out to be fine
@donmooney21
@donmooney21 4 жыл бұрын
Its extremely worrisome for a player as young as he is, as hopeful as he is, as explosive as he is. To even be having a conversation of weight or knee injury at this point. Hopefully he can be an outlier.
@tonecapone7776
@tonecapone7776 2 жыл бұрын
At least he's got his money💰 . I don't see him playing a long career. He can extend it by losing weight but that will require professional help.
@robertgammett8718
@robertgammett8718 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'6", I weigh 200 lbs. 283 would be absolutely insane for me to do what he does.
@workbreaklounge3755
@workbreaklounge3755 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a future Bo Jackson case, where he is just too strong for his body to handle and ultimately will be self injury by momentum. Ultimate diagnosis: Death by muscle mass!
@amorodioamor4388
@amorodioamor4388 4 жыл бұрын
WorkBreakLounge Bo was just too strong and fast and he basically pulled his hip out on that play. Others would of just gone down without that happening. It was a freak accident though. He probably could of lasted a long time. Gronk was too strong. He would get injured as people tried to tackle him. He had too much strenght and his body couldn't handle it.
@phoenixrisin2269
@phoenixrisin2269 4 жыл бұрын
Bo wasn’t fat!
@SnackMuay
@SnackMuay 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you think he’s at an injury risk when NFL TEs and Defensive Ends often have similar body types?
@notquitemytempo1353
@notquitemytempo1353 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's quite fair to compare these two sports. In terms of what forces are applied to the body, they're pretty different. Especially with Zion's style of play, what with all the jumping and landing, and the spinning; he puts too much pressure on his knees. I highly doubt NFL players can compare to that.
@SnackMuay
@SnackMuay 4 жыл бұрын
Not quite my tempo really? I have to strongly disagree with you there. Tight Ends are often leaping into the air to make catches, and planting their feet to make incredibly sharp cuts. Defensive ends are bending at a 45 degree angle and absorbing the contact of the 300 lb men across from them. And both often have opponents “roll up” on their legs. It’s hard for me to imagine that there’s a unique force only applied on the knee when playing Basketball
@notquitemytempo1353
@notquitemytempo1353 4 жыл бұрын
@@SnackMuay I don't know man, I ain't no expert. I just think that landing on a field and landing on the harder basketball court is quite different. And they probably take a lot of the forces on their upper body - the NFL players that is. And again, that doesn't necessarily apply to all players, but a b-ball player with Zion's weight and with his explosive style is bound to put a lot on his knees. I remember seeing clips of him as a college player when all the hype started and I was thinking that style can't possibly have longevity. He's too heavy to play like that. There's a reason a guy like Giannis for instance never had an injury problem. He's very explosive and puts a lot of force on his knees but he was a feather weight as a rookie and still is quite thin or in any case he has a very healthy body type.
@ibojofamily8472
@ibojofamily8472 4 жыл бұрын
He's just a really THICC BOI
@anthonyphan8540
@anthonyphan8540 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, I am also a M.D. who loves basketball. Your channel is spot on !
@SeanOkkotsu
@SeanOkkotsu 4 жыл бұрын
BMl according to Zion: Big Mac lndex Trust me, l'm not a doctor!
@thegarcinator4068
@thegarcinator4068 4 жыл бұрын
Zion has been a grown man with that athleticism since his sophomore year of hs even when he was 250. the extra is going to take a toll and if he lost it, I dont believe it would affect his athleticism considering he is 285 rn and moving like that, no chance buddy is just different
@ryankelly8077
@ryankelly8077 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a video on projecting Joel Embiid’s career longevity in relation to the prior injuries & procedures he’s had in the past
@igormysen4296
@igormysen4296 4 жыл бұрын
Love the graphs and visuals! Keep them coming Brian!
@frewolfe8304
@frewolfe8304 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta unique channel bro keep grinding you gonna get big someday
@MrDaCynic
@MrDaCynic 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, he's a doctor, he's already big. You're looking at his side hustle, if it's even that
@WOSplays
@WOSplays 4 жыл бұрын
Miguel Diaz He’s in residency so making 70k tops rn
@keyton1928
@keyton1928 4 жыл бұрын
woslyer top 1% ain’t bad
@WOSplays
@WOSplays 4 жыл бұрын
Flippy 117 that’s no where near the top 1
@keyton1928
@keyton1928 4 жыл бұрын
woslyer 32,400 dollars a year can put you in the top 1% of the world earners. You need about 750,000 net worth. If you own a house or part of it, have an income of more than that, make money from KZbin, own a business, cars, boats, etc. he is probably in the top 1%.
@spitimouvids6427
@spitimouvids6427 4 жыл бұрын
Your explanations are absolutely, staggeringly good
@kidracks2991
@kidracks2991 4 жыл бұрын
6’6 - 250 lbs. should be perfect. He should play the 3 tho imo. Would definitely help his progression
@trentonmossel1993
@trentonmossel1993 4 жыл бұрын
kid racks just like LeBron
@Firstnameunknownfr
@Firstnameunknownfr 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@drechillin2154
@drechillin2154 4 жыл бұрын
230
@kidracks2991
@kidracks2991 4 жыл бұрын
Dre Chillin that’s a really healthy weight but he’ll have to realize mentally he can’t play bully ball as much as he’d like when attacking the rim protectors. I believe he can do it . But I’m afraid mentally his motor is too high and he’ll be going for the highlights over jus wisely euro stepping or using a floater . Most young guys go for the highlights lol they almost have to in order to send a message
@drechillin2154
@drechillin2154 4 жыл бұрын
kid racks look at Jaylon Brown and Kawhi both his height and around that weight both dominate and can bully anyone
@BrockLanders
@BrockLanders 4 жыл бұрын
Zion always reminded me of Robert “Tractor” Traylor in terms of build. Hopefully he finds a way to keep his weight around 250-260lbs.
@oskarehre5410
@oskarehre5410 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Robert je died in 2011 because of a heart attack 😔
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 4 жыл бұрын
That's My boy former Michigan basketball lol rip
@Mcw1817_
@Mcw1817_ 4 жыл бұрын
Boy should’ve played football
@blackdynamite2302
@blackdynamite2302 4 жыл бұрын
Zions that one football player who walks on the court and asks to take some shots
@ish4910
@ish4910 4 жыл бұрын
That 1 underweight person gotta be Brandon Ingram
@aliz3111
@aliz3111 4 жыл бұрын
Sports Chiropractor here. Great evidence informed info , Thanks doc.
@MrUsername1191
@MrUsername1191 4 жыл бұрын
Rookie michael jordan height and weight 6'6 195 He should play football he would make a good DE or TE
@et5740
@et5740 3 жыл бұрын
While that’s true. MJ didn’t stay at 195. He stayed around 200 until he got his ass physically kicked by the bad boy Pistons, and got his weight up to the 225 range to finish better through contact and it helped tremendously.
@UGOSOSUBLIME
@UGOSOSUBLIME 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing you forgot to talk about that is the MOST important is factoring in muscle mass and load ( which BMI) can not attain
@UGOSOSUBLIME
@UGOSOSUBLIME 4 жыл бұрын
@Joey Snow1 it does matter. There's a calculation to everything and that includes muscles . which can help absorb load. Agree to disagree. Bye
@ifeanyiakunna2828
@ifeanyiakunna2828 4 жыл бұрын
His playstyle is unsustainable
@gabo8954
@gabo8954 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought he would have serious knee problems but not so soon. Hes to bulky for his body to withstand the impact of playing basketball.i mean i put osme weight up & went to play basketball & the impact was too big on my knees now I know whi i cant run the same as when i was 170 lbs Im now 180 at 5'8 so my knees are resenting every time. Superb Channel man!!! Its amazing how science explains a lot of things in our favourite games!!
@DeVine22305076
@DeVine22305076 4 жыл бұрын
Brain, I NEED to know whos the only person under 20 BMI, thanks
@toni9782
@toni9782 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Ingram or Morant
@stanley8214
@stanley8214 4 жыл бұрын
Bol Bol?
@Alessandro-vl8bu
@Alessandro-vl8bu 4 жыл бұрын
Probably Ingram. He seems like he has the largest height to weight disparity
@wilmerelias9338
@wilmerelias9338 4 жыл бұрын
NutritiousPie tbh it could be Kevin Durant
@jakecollen1776
@jakecollen1776 3 жыл бұрын
@@wilmerelias9338 no chance, he’s only like 2 inches taller than ingram and he weighs around 50 lbs more
@sergiolopez0407
@sergiolopez0407 4 жыл бұрын
the stress on knees is insane how much it improves when you lose weight my knees and shins where in so much pain at 240 and running 1 mile was killing me and was taking almost 12 min ive lost 36 pounds but it only took the first 10 to make it an 8 minute mile now I don't feel complete without running 6 miles. knees feel so much better now also
@VideosbyStew
@VideosbyStew 4 жыл бұрын
Dajuan Blair career length = Zion Williamson career length, same body
@plantecsmiths1622
@plantecsmiths1622 4 жыл бұрын
Zion more muscl e
@fuzzbutt5500
@fuzzbutt5500 4 жыл бұрын
Stew's Photography he could play tight end
@trentonwelsh6859
@trentonwelsh6859 4 жыл бұрын
He is considerably heavier than Dajuan Blair
@VideosbyStew
@VideosbyStew 4 жыл бұрын
@@trentonwelsh6859 He is...That was the only recent player I could think of to compare him to, physically, even tho Zion has better potential of course, his body might break down first....
@VideosbyStew
@VideosbyStew 4 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzbutt5500 I'm not so sure hes tough enough to take that kind of beating. Plus he's listed at 6'6 284, kinda big for a TE. Most TE are 6'5 250 or somewhere around there. That would be fun tho to see, Lebron did a tv commercial a few years back where he was a TE for the Browns I think...
@tnk4me4
@tnk4me4 4 жыл бұрын
1 view. Last time i was this early Epstein hadn't killed himself yet.
@stza16
@stza16 4 жыл бұрын
He faked his death.
@tnk4me4
@tnk4me4 4 жыл бұрын
@@stza16 😂😂😂😂👌🏿
@dt9255
@dt9255 4 жыл бұрын
*hadn't not killed himself
@tnk4me4
@tnk4me4 4 жыл бұрын
@Ben Daulton wow really? So he somehow got switched places with a twin brother and faked all the DNA evidence that the body is him? Amazing. We need Penn and Teller break this slight of hand down for us.
@jeffreyyoungblood7438
@jeffreyyoungblood7438 4 жыл бұрын
*hadn't been murdered
@Chris-hi6ut
@Chris-hi6ut 4 жыл бұрын
Is Zion's career over already? Sure feels like it if he doesn't lose weight
@yungsorrow8148
@yungsorrow8148 4 жыл бұрын
Chris thats what im talkin bout , hes way tooo fat at this point ..
@Mike-.
@Mike-. 4 жыл бұрын
Love these vids! Best channel on KZbin!
@jonloc8535
@jonloc8535 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah BMI may not be the most accurate metric but it does get the point across
@iahkrishnashiva
@iahkrishnashiva 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really well made brk
@9turtle13
@9turtle13 4 жыл бұрын
I thought he would have been told to loose the weight in the preseason...
@teddybridgewater5605
@teddybridgewater5605 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid love this channel very informative
@aryangupta1088
@aryangupta1088 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, would it be possible for something on OBJ's sports hernia
@firstnamelastname-up6ni
@firstnamelastname-up6ni 4 жыл бұрын
Since you're talking about basketball players and knees , can you do a video on microfracture surgery? What the thought process was, the objective, why it got discontinued , etc...
@61JZ
@61JZ 4 жыл бұрын
How about his body fat percentage relative to BMI? Pretty crucial metric to put his weight in context.
@Dance1617
@Dance1617 4 жыл бұрын
He's pretty fat for a pro athlete.
@61JZ
@61JZ 4 жыл бұрын
No he’s not fat at all. . Google any picture of him and he has a more muscular and lean physique than 99% of people you’ll ever see.
@Bodybypt
@Bodybypt 4 жыл бұрын
the problem is still the weight on the joints. Excess weight is still a problem even if its muscle.
@beedleChompz44
@beedleChompz44 4 жыл бұрын
honestly you have an amazing voice!
@taylormancini1498
@taylormancini1498 4 жыл бұрын
conclusion: Put on 15 pounds and start at left tackle for the saints
@Aaron-nm1ob
@Aaron-nm1ob 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant yet again, doctor. I love how you back everything up with peer reviewed evidence. Clearly a scientist!
@gally9218
@gally9218 4 жыл бұрын
i’m dumb but the way he explains things makes me feel smart 🤓
@picturesfromtheworld208
@picturesfromtheworld208 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video about knees, as always. Thanks doc!
@richard_nj
@richard_nj 4 жыл бұрын
Zion is heavier than he ever was rn. This dude is in serious danger of becoming the biggest bust in NBA history
@richard_nj
@richard_nj 4 жыл бұрын
@Plumdog do you consider greg oden a bust?
@ifshenotcuteshegetstheboot1300
@ifshenotcuteshegetstheboot1300 3 жыл бұрын
This was the worst take I’ve ever seen.
@richard_nj
@richard_nj 3 жыл бұрын
@@ifshenotcuteshegetstheboot1300 yep, as of now, I sure as shit was wrong. Still don't think this is sustainable.
@jamalimam3784
@jamalimam3784 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin has to verify my guy now!
@getbetterdrunky7612
@getbetterdrunky7612 4 жыл бұрын
Zion just needs to hit 245 and he will be fine. Can't play the way he does at 285.
@FreeSmokeMac
@FreeSmokeMac 4 жыл бұрын
Brian is the GOAT! I learn so much from this channel
@oscarlindhorst160
@oscarlindhorst160 4 жыл бұрын
I think he should go down to his previous weight of 272 lbs first,and see how that works out
@smac919
@smac919 4 жыл бұрын
I heard the Pelican's staff straight up re-taught Zion how to run again.. which completely makes sense. He learned how to run when he was a kid.. and then he grew to like 6'5" when he was 13.. and continued to run the same way.
@bobsmith867
@bobsmith867 4 жыл бұрын
😂 why did you come for Zion like this
@AnthonyMcNeil
@AnthonyMcNeil 4 жыл бұрын
You weren't the only one with these concerns. Many sports analysts were too. This is why LeBron spends so much money on just making sure his body is right. If you look over his career, he was at different weights from his rookie season, to his time in Miami then back at Cleveland and now Los Angeles. Zion just needs the right people around him to make sure his body at the optimal weight. Hopefully he does it...but it's crazy that you called all of this before hand, just insane.
@danielurriola
@danielurriola 4 жыл бұрын
He needs to cut 15 or 20 pounds. 264 could work for him and keeps a great level of athleticism and strengh avoiding getting injured.
@djvibes3704
@djvibes3704 4 жыл бұрын
I remember him at 250 - 260. He played the exact same and still had knee issues. I wanna see him at 230 and just be lightning fast.
@MrTheTomahawk
@MrTheTomahawk 4 жыл бұрын
@@djvibes3704 yea 230-40 range but sadly he seems to be a guy that easily gains weight. Which is part of why he has such muscle mass his body can turn calories to mass. Hes gonna need a super strict diet
@g1kluang
@g1kluang 4 жыл бұрын
That underweight player at below 20 BMI definitely has to be Brandon Ingram! So now the pelicans have both underweight & obese player
@jumaanerobinsonsr5736
@jumaanerobinsonsr5736 4 жыл бұрын
Let him play and change his DIET while still playing!
@larrydinklepie9147
@larrydinklepie9147 4 жыл бұрын
Jumaane ROBINSON SR he cant play he just had a surgery bro
@luke53285
@luke53285 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, the main reason I think BMI is a good index for this is that joint size is heavily correlated to height, therefore when you're examining peak stresses on an athletes joint BMI is near perfect for telling you how much force is seen through the key joints that are the main mechanism of failure, or source of catastrophic injury. I've done kinematic studies on knees for a long time and it was one of the controlling factors we took a look at over a varied specimen population. Love the channel tho.
@peazy99
@peazy99 4 жыл бұрын
Zion's BMI assumes that he has much more fat mass than skeletal muscle. There are many studies that suggest that skeletal muscle mass and fat mass have a much different impact on stress to the joints. So I would say that BMI is far from a perfect index
@luke53285
@luke53285 4 жыл бұрын
@@peazy99 I understand the implication, but I have yet to see a source that says that composition influences geometric stress concentrations in joints, which is what I would be talking about. I.e your ankle doesn't care if its fat or muscle, 480 ftlb of force is still 480 ftlb. It's in no way perfect, but for this gross overview i think it works fairly well. I've taken a lot of knees apart, and we never accounted for body composition, but did look at weight at death.
@peazy99
@peazy99 4 жыл бұрын
@@luke53285 I dont think it's the actual composition that makes the difference but how fat vs muscle help reduce the peak load on the joint especially during explosive dynamic movements. Using BMI for Zion suggests that the joint takes on a much greater degree of peak load, which doesn't make much sense for a guy who is probably in the top .1% of lower body muscle mass percentage.
@luke53285
@luke53285 4 жыл бұрын
@@peazy99 what you're implying is that extra muscles to generate more force would reduce forces seen at a given articular surface, the resultant forces may be more balanced in better athletes, but they see far greater forces than non athletic people. I can't think of a way to test or prove your hypothesis, because if you were to do an observational study (the only way I could think to try this) you'd see decreased joint injury with increased fat composition (heuristically) because you're looking at a more sedentary population. What we learn in studying joints is basically that form dictates function, and what I mean by that is the shape is the ultimate determining factor. The shape and smoothness of your joints are what determine the factors that magnify force in out joints and increase risk of injury. That being said, your knee, ankle wrist, etc have no concept of how much muscle or fat you have, they see a load and a bearing surface. To your point about added muscles reducing the risk, to answer that better, yes to an extent. They do in the end put more stress on the joint, but they help reduce (center not decrease in magnitude) resultant force into normal movement and help protect against avulsive and evulsive stresses. But these are of diminishing returns, you could have the strongest muscles in your leg humanely possible, and it would increase chances of catastrophic injury because now your resultant vectors are so great in magnitude that a small force of a given impulse may cause your muscles to tear the joint apart. We see this with patellar dislocations sometimes. Really nasty. So in summation, yes prehab as pt people call it has benefits, but bmi is quite litterally mass/ht^2, a direct correlation between articular surface dependencies (ht^2) and forces those faces see (mass). Its a crude way of doing it but for a baseline, I cant think of a better measurement without taking external joint circumference and extrapolating. I hope you do read all of this and see my point.
@Keezy59
@Keezy59 4 жыл бұрын
I hope he been losing weight while rehabing because that ratio was crazy
@kjeezy2990
@kjeezy2990 4 жыл бұрын
K. Taylor he’s getting bigger
@Keezy59
@Keezy59 4 жыл бұрын
@@kjeezy2990 how u know that?
@zacharyparis
@zacharyparis 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, clear presentation.
@WorldNewsReact
@WorldNewsReact 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, is Zion REALLY that big?
@bobstewart8032
@bobstewart8032 4 жыл бұрын
You just gave me even more incentive to lose weight. I know losing weight is a good thing of course, but I didn't realize just how much impact was on my knees and entire body.
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