Isaiah 9:6 "MIghty God" = Jesus Christ's God

"I have come in THE NAME of MY FATHER." John 5:43
"I have manifested YOUR NAME to the men whom You gave me out of the world...Holy Father, keep them in YOUR NAME, the NAME which You have GIVEN me..." John 17:6,11

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

There is only one God: Jesus Christ's God. The Messiah bears the name "mighty God" and "eternal Father" because he is his God the Father's representative - Jesus came in HIS FATHER'S NAME. John 5:43. "Holy Father, keep them in YOUR NAME, THE NAME WHICH YOU HAVE GIVEN ME, that they may be one just as We are one." John 17:11.

[@jeandziadosz1713]

I found myself in a small group of believers and loved it, but then during a study online I found the subject was Those who reject Christ as God are AntiChrist. My heart just shrunk, and he went on and on that those that don't believe will burn in hell and they never had the truth in them. Well I grew up w absolutely NO religious influence but found myself being invited to a church by my Aunt who was visiting from the other end of the US. I was just so happy to see her that I wanted to hang out w her. After much unfomfortablity in the beginning,even laughing to myself that I was surrounded by nuts but I couldn't understand because my Aunt is the oldest,she's like the patriarch in our family and a genuis I.Q. If I would of gone with anyone else I probably would of stayed w my first thoughts and never went back. But because it was her,I realized she had to know something I didn't and I wanted to know. I started focusing on the pastor and what he was preaching,and the way my Aunt behaved with such love and devotion I found myself completely submerged in it all,even feeling for the first time total love,that there is a God,how awsome he was,and who was Christ. I was the same night full water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and was filled with the Holy Spirit. I was 12 and I've been self studying and am now 39. I've never belonging to a church, and have read the bible front to back more times than most because I read daily and I have been filled w the Holy Spirit and such words of wisdom flowed from my mouth with things I had never thought of before but words that came from the Spirit. I've done laying on hands only on 2 occasions and both were miraculous healings in which their very life was at stake. I've bore witness of the fruit of the Spirit, and all this time I believed in that which you believe, not because I was taught, but because in reading the word I took everything as literal and never questioned scriptures. But for the first time in my many years of walking with God and believing in all of Jesus, I joined that online study group that started preaching only that Jesus is God and condemning all who believe otherwise. I was actually just looking for fellowship as I'm very isolated and just loved it. I even had ppl tell me that they too joined in on the livestream fellowshiping because they saw and felt such love coming from me and they too were searching for like minded believers. Since then I obviously left, and I've checked back and saw that the ppl that joined because of me left also. His channel is just so angry and hateful now. The thing is I honestly never knew that this rift even existed as I've only sought my bible for truth. So my question to you is this, Is this gentleman just a handful of those who preach hell fire if you don't believe Jesus is God, or is this a large sect of believers, and if it is where do they get these teachings of eternal damnation for not believing that Jesus is God,and was sent by God just as scriptures teach? I noticed to that he loved to use that very passage of "And he shall be called Wonderful,Counselor,Mighty God,Eternal Father." And "Before Abraham was,I was." And that he was crucified for proclaiming to be God, but I read it always as he was claiming to be the Son of God and given all the authority of the Father. And that Christ is called many things likened to the Father because he will be given by God the New Jerusalem to reign for what he did on the cross. But if you could please clarify where the teaching of the Trinity stems from and if they actually really do believe you'll go to hell for believing what is written in the bible? I'd very much appreciate your help in understanding. Thank you, and God Bless

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

@@jeandziadosz1713 It is standard Trinitarian belief that you must accept their man made doctrine or you can't be a Christian.

[@bardowesselius4121]

@@jeandziadosz1713 try these for an idea where the trinity comes from: onegodworship.com/how-plato-influenced-our-view-of-god/ contramodalism.com/overview/

[@truthhitman7473]

@@TheTrinityDelusion What is the right translation in Genesis 22 : 14, is is Yahweh or Jahovah ? And who is the Everlasting Father mentioned in Isaiah 9:6 ?

[@pozorovatellidi]

​@@jeandziadosz1713 I'd say, that unfortunately this is a part of trinitarians belief... that if you don't believe that Son of God is God, (isn't it ridiculous?) you are not saved. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3yVnqyNbM57a6s

[@figureofauthority]

Has anybody ever stop to think that even satan knew Christ was the son when he told him if you are the son of God turn these stones into bread.

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

The demons knew also.

[@EliseDoomSlayer]

Thank you so much for your videos. Every other Christian youtuber I've found is just tickling to the ears but you're not afraid to destroy everyone's confirmation bias.

[@christineosgood9875]

Thank you kel for another fabulous understanding of the truth. Unfortunately Trinitarians don’t understand the simplicity, common sense and logic of the truth.

[@jestermoyo7248]

By spending more time in the word of God, I also noticed that the names in Isaiah 9v6 they point us to God, also the whole world is called to return to God in Isaiah 45v22

[@TheWAY_John14.6]

Thank you! May YHVH bless you!

[@stommper1234]

Mighty or Strong God, just as Everlasting Father, are applied to Messiah because all power in both heaven and earth are given to him of the Father.

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

yep

[@tracktha1]

Love the explanation💯💪🏽

[@johndavid3474]

This translation of Isaiah 9:6 indicates the complexities that are associated with translation. Whether by accident or intention a person's belief, influences their reasoning and ultimately the translation of the word of God.

[@northoftoofar3772]

Everyone seems to ignore the phrase "his name shall be called". This is a very important preface. Names have meanings that don't necessarily define their subject. Messiah's literal name is not "wonderful counselor", "everlasting father" or "prince of peace", so why should I believe that his literal name is "mighty God"?

[@LodiBryan]

At Judges 16:23 Dagon is called Eloheim. "The Philistine rulers held a great festival, offering sacrifices and praising their god, Dagon." When King Saul sought help from a medium woman, the dead Samuel appeared as a ghostly figure who was called Eloheim. 1Samuel 28:13

[@vaidasguzelis9263]

Can't be more clear.. Psalm 82:1"God [YHWH] standeth in the congregation of the mighty [EL]; he judgeth among the gods [Elohiym]."

[@jonathanjensen189]

This is good, although there are a few things you forgot to mention, unless I just didn't hear them: 1) the name by which he is called is singular: is it one name or many names? 2) in the sentence before his name being called "...everlasting father...", it says "a son is given". Strange to think he's the "father" in the context 3) words like "he" and "is" have to be supplied in Hebrew based on the context; this opens a world of interpretation for the name, which you had alluded to early on in the video, and could even have the name be a complete sentence

[@truthbetold7170]

(Isaiah 9:6) "Mighty God" and "Everlasting Father" are not in the septuagint which was written more than a 1000 years before the KJV.

[@citizenguy]

That is amazing. If the English translation is wrong, then I feel like I've been lied to by other Christians.

[@leenieledejo6849]

​@@citizenguyIt's just that the translators of the KJV were avid Trinitarians (like the vast majority of other Bible translators) so they add and insert (eg capitapizing "word" in John 1 and calling Jesus "Christ" rather than "man anointed by God") where possible to underline the "Trinity". If it were the truth, of course, it wouldn't need ANY help/underlining! Truth needs no embellishment or assistance. Most of the translation is pretty reliable.

[@marekpala6442]

Amen

[@mickeyre]

Actual scholarship, well done. When will the revelation of Christ be revealed to the Christianity? Thanks for making this video.

[@ElCineHefe]

It doesn't say "mighty God" in Hebrew, it says, "mighty man (gibor) of God (El)".

[@christopherestrada2474]

Which greek manuscript?! :)

[@ElCineHefe]

@@christopherestrada2474 The received texts number in the thousands. Go to Biblehub.com and use their composite. It's pretty much accepted as representative of the majority.

[@Ranger1985.]

I don't meet many wise people bro Kel, but you are wise. Father gave you part of his wisdom, as he has done with me and some others.

[@jujubhee]

Here's the verse... For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. I am no Trinitarian but love scriptures...this verse talk of the son and His titles. Father was not the son born a child in the flesh. It is clear this is about the son and not His/our Heavenly FATHER.

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

The son came in the NAME of the Father.

[@jujubhee]

@@TheTrinityDelusion according to that wisdom, FATHER is then The Prince Of Peace. But...the son created everything living and also not living in the universe... Psa 102:25 Of old H6440hast thou laid the foundationH3245 of the earth H776: and the heavens H8064 arethe work H4639 of thy handsH3027 This is the work of the son by the instruction of FATHER. (See also Heb 1:10) "You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the works of Your hands; They will perish, but You remain; And they all will become old like a garment, And like a mantle You will roll them up; Like a garment they will also be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not come to an end." Still talking of the Son. "These things Jesus spoke, and He went away and hid Himself from them. But though He had performed so many signs before them, yet they were not believing in Him. This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet which he spoke: 'Lord, who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?' For this reason they could not believe, for Isaiah said again, 'He has blinded their eyes and He hardened their heart, so that they would not see with their eyes and perceive with their heart, and be converted and I heal them.' These things Isaiah said because he saw His glory, and he spoke of Him," (John 12:36b-41) Joh 1:18 KJV No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. No one has seen FATHER at A N Y T I M E. BUT... Moses saw some one. The scriptures cannot lie...either Moses saw FATHER or he saw the Son! 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Col 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

[@brianguglielmin2873]

Yes, the Son is mighty God and the Lord is the Spirit and the Spirit prays for us to Father so their is no escaping Triune Godhead.

[@leenieledejo6849]

​@@jujubheeYes, God indwells Jesus (John 14:10-11) just as the Holy Spirit indwells true believers (John 14:16-17, 2 Corinthians 13:5 etc). It doesn't mean we are God either. It means we are CHILDREN of God (John 1:12-13, Romans 8:14 etc). God is our (ours and Jesus's) FATHER (Matthew 6 etc). Jesus is our BROTHER (verse below and Hebrews 2:11). "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren" (Romans 8:29)

[@DjMakinetor]

God cannot be killed with a stone or a spear, for God does not dwell on earth, and neither stones nor spears can be thrown to God's dwelling place in heaven, that is too high.

[@MyrzaAkhmad]

In the earliest manuscript.. in morphological greek text.. there is no word god in prophesy about Christ.. and there is a word.. future father not everlasting father.. if father is for future it means Heavanly "Father" cant be for future.. beacause He is always existed.. do reasearch please... In hebrew in this prophesy used word AVIAD.. AV means father.. AVI means my father.. like adon - adoni.. the word AD has several meanings.. the main meanings are two.. everlasting (for future only, not ever existed) and witness.. AVIAD does not mean God the "Father".. its just one of the names in hebrew like AVIAFAR, AVIUD.. for example AVRAHAM - means Father of a lot of nations... in arabic ABUHASAN which means Father of HASAN.. ABUZEID which means Father of Zeid... semitic languages full of these names.. this names shouldnt be translated... they use not only son of somebody to call him but also father of somebody... therefore aviad is just hebrew name.. this prophesy is not fullfilled in Jesus Christ.. beacause.. Christ was not on throne of David.. he never was the king of Israil.. and in this prophesy said.. he is born.. not will be born.. that is why.. may be he is just one of the kings of Israil.. Christians always try to make up things when they see the word son and father.. its psychological disorder..

[@adysaxman77]

Ok, John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Who do you believe in the above verse, that John was referring to?

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

He was in the world and the world came to be through Him and the world did not know Him. John 1:10 See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God and we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. 1 John 3:1 O righteous Father, although the world has not known You, yet I have known You and these have known that You sent me. John 17:25. Then Jesus cried out in the temple, teaching and saying, “You both know me and know where I am from and I have not come of myself, but He who sent me is true, whom you do not know." John 7:28

[@adysaxman77]

The Trinity Delusion So apostle John was referring to Jesus in John 1:10? Yes or no?

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

In the Gospel of John, the Light is the Father manifested in human flesh.

[@adysaxman77]

The Trinity Delusion So do you believe that Jesus was a miraculously created human being that housed the Spirit of God / the Father?

[@sumanmathewraj]

Shalom bro... Pl let me know what your video making tool/app is... God bless...

[@jujubhee]

In psalms you and everyone is Elohim and will share the divine nature after the planned timeline has completed. Everyone that fell (which is all) will be reconciled in the "ministration of reconciliation". Satan cannot win, but Messiah does. It's a great timeline study of His plan.

[@billclay2678]

Jesus is the literal Son of God and so He is also God by nature but He's not the God the Father, The Most High. Ellen White, a non-trinitarian, didn't have a problem with this verse: "The Sovereign of the universe was not alone in His work of beneficence. He had an associate-a co-worker who could appreciate His purposes, and could share His joy in giving happiness to created beings. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.” John 1:1, 2. Christ, the Word, the only begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father-one in nature, in character, in purpose-the only being that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. “His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” Isaiah 9:6. His “goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” Micah 5:2. And the Son of God declares concerning Himself: “The Lord possessed Me in the beginning of His way, before His works of old. I was set up from everlasting. ... When He appointed the foundations of the earth: then I was by Him, as one brought up with Him: and I was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him.” Proverbs 8:22-30." {Patriarchs and Prophets, [PP 34.1]}

[@keithbawden7940]

THIS IS ABSENT FROM THE SEPTUAGINT. Someone please explain WHY?!

[@truthbetold7170]

Be cause it was added it to help support the trinitarian doctrine. Just like 1 John 5:7-8 was tampered with to support the trinity doctrine. Most version have since removed the added text in 1 John but KJV refused too.

[@MrJosephthedreamer10]

I am sure the MIGHTY GOD is Jesus Christ's God. God , MIGHTY GOD, will send Jesus the day appointed. The way you are preaching it could be soon. Blessed be the God the father of the lord Jesus.

[@bosse641]

Satan is called God also. The God of this world/age. (2 Corinthians 4:4) So therefore he is The Almighty God ? The Trinitarians are clueless. Very confused.

[@watchtoweralert1]

no John Grytbakk--God blinded the minds

[@henryj.wilson8001]

MrJosephthedreamer10 to be more clear almighty God YHWH is Jesus heavenly Father, Jesus was brought forth from his father that puts him in the same nature of YHWH ALMIGHTY GOD but he is the son of his father, people can view Jesus as a strong god because he's in the same spiritul nature of YHWH but not confuse that fact that Jesus is the son of ALMIGHTY GOD YHWH

[@MrJosephthedreamer10]

Jesus was brought forth by a descendant of David. Jesus came forth from Mary in Bethlehem years ago. Jesus is the son of David. Jesus is indeed the son of the living God. The devil has a lot of doctrines.

[@henryj.wilson8001]

MrJosephthedreamer10 didn't Jesus say to the Pharisees in the scriptures does not say you are gods what's a goddamn it1 so could that might be one be just not just being God but people who have that position to hold the authority that was given to them by almighty God it could be Mighty ones as well

[@mac2brown]

Well I have a friend from middle East who speaks hebrew and says El means mighty all and means God.

[@bosse641]

He shall be called "the everlasting Father". ....so Jesus is the Father ? The Trinitarians are so confused.

[@bosse641]

@Collin Lutz The same Spirit is in all His children that He has filled. None of them are God, or Father. .....The Spirit alone is God and Father. The man Jesus(second Adam) is not God or Father. He is my elder brother as the Word tells us. (Romans 8:29) The firstborn Son, the first of many Sons. He is our head, and the head of Jesus is God. (1 Corinthians 11:3) And all His children shall be one with God, just like the firstborn Son. (John 17:21-23) And God(Spirit) shall be all-in-all. (1 Corinthians 15:27-29)

[@bosse641]

@Collin Lutz He was not a blasphemer. It is just us humans lacking in knowledge about these things. It is not always that straight forward when it comes to understanding His word. And there is also the fact that people have translated the Word from Hebrew and Greek without having the correct understanding. And so you get a twisted Word, and that is not the Word. And you get confusion. There is a lot of that among the millions claiming to be Christian. Some say one thing, and some say another, pointing to the same Bible. Light must be given from Above. The true children of God are taught by Him. (John 6:45) And He leads them to all truth. (John 16:13) It was God(Spirit) that lived and worked in Jesus (John 14:10) It wasn't Jesus doing God's work. It was God living in him that did His work. Only God can do God's work. And the same Spirit lives and works in all His children. None of them being God, just tools in His mighty hand.

[@bosse641]

@Collin Lutz You are clearly wrong on your first point. The original text has been messed with by fallen men through the centuries. That is why we must sometimes go back to the Hebrew and Greek to find our way to truth. Just compare the many English translations to see the many and huge differences many times. Some of these translations are horrific. And yet they write Holy Bible on their books.

[@bosse641]

@Collin Lutz The many differing translations are there for all to see. It's not my belief or opinion, it's fact. And God is still sovereign. But He clearly has permitted humans to play around with His word.

[@rickyzoe1]

@Collin Lutz God most certainty allowed his people to be corrupted, mislead, decieved etc. Look at Israel! Over and over and over they turned the Truth of Yah into a lie and served the gods of their neighbors. I mean Israel. The apple of Gods eye. Israel the servant of God. Israel his first born. Case in point look at Judah under the 55 year rule if Mannasah. He was so wicked that the land had lost all knowledge of God. So much so that Josiah stumbled across the book of the Law in the Temple that had evidently been abandoned and revival ensued. So yes it is possible that God would allow scriptures to be mishandled and corrupted and in fact that is what has happened through Trinitarian translations. ( Look at the word Easter replacing the word pasach in the KJV book of Acts.) It is up to us as followers of Christ to ( by his Spirit) discern and search for truth. Not just believe everything we hear coming from our Pastors

[@gustav1235]

If Isaiah 9:6 really did indicate that the future Messiah was actually God, then wouldn't Orthodox Jews, who don't believe the Messiah to have been and that it is a future event, believe that the future Messiah is God? Yet not one of them believes this. A big red flag there!

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

Jews simply interpret this to refer to Hezekiah whose name means "God is my strength/might/power"

[@watchtoweralert1]

the hero--repesentative of El---like the kings of Israel

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

That's what this passage is about - the Davidic King. For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And THE GOVERNMENT WILL REST ON HIS SHOULDERS; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. 7 There will be no end to the increase OF HIS GOVERNMENT or of peace, On THE THRONE OF DAVID and over HIS KINGDOM, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this.

[@44place85]

@@TheTrinityDelusion It never happened with Jesus

[@davidbrainerd1520]

This video to me is related to a point in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJPRoIaon8mse5Y how that our governments love to solve the secondary problem, not the primary problem (for instance, arresting Tommy Robinson for protesting radical mosques rather than kicking out the radical Muslims); he argues the church is the same with respect to the problem of feminism, blaming men for not marrying feminist whores rather than blaming women for being sluts. I would extend the same concept to Isaiah 9:6's misusage in Christianity, not to mention the misusage of the entirety of Isaiah 7-9 in Christianity. We can fix the secondary problem of the misunderstanding of some title in 9:6, or we can fix the primary problem that Christianity has twisted the entirety of chapters 7-9. They are about Hezekiah, not Jesus, from the get-go, so arguing about 9:6, how to translate el gibbor, is a waste of time, because we're gonna leave the primary problem, the lie that ANY of chapters 7-9 are about Jesus in tact. That's a mistake. Christianity should be about truth, and so should purge this lie from itself.

[@mac2brown]

Hello brother Kel!!

[@jmndp30]

Isaiah 9:7 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this. 👉Bro pls don’t ignore “He will Reign” 👉On David’s Throne, that is the promised Messiah 👉”from that time on and forever”

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

Yeah what's your point?

[@jmndp30]

The Trinity Delusion my point is very simple, verse 6 did not pertain to king Hezekiah but to Everlasting King, that is Jesus

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

Yeah except that doesn't work. The verbs are past tense for starters. Then you have to completely disregard the immediate context and what Isaiah has been talking about. And then you need to ignore that both David and Solomon understood 2 Sam 7:11-14 to refer to Solomon - "FOREVER." Hebrew Olam doesn't mean "forever and ever" for infinity. There's some more facts for you to ignore if you like.

[@jmndp30]

The Trinity Delusion Isaiah 9:1-7 9 [a]Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan- 👉IN THE FUTURE 2 The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned. 👉THIS IS THE VERY SAME LIGHT IN JOHN 1:7-9 WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST!! 3 You have enlarged the nation and increased their joy; they rejoice before you as people rejoice at the harvest, as warriors rejoice when dividing the plunder. 4 For as in the day of Midian’s defeat, you have shattered the yoke that burdens them, the bar across their shoulders, the rod of their oppressor. 5 Every warrior’s boot used in battle and every garment rolled in blood will be destined for burning, will be fuel for the fire. 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called 👉HE WILL BE CALLED, THAT IS IN THE FUTURE! Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this. 👉You are wrong brother Kel 👉THAT IS SIMPLY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

You don't listen very well do you?

[@RoseSharon7777]

And Isaiah 7:14 was NOT an immaculate conception as it was initially referring about king Hezekiah son of king Ahaz whom the Sign was given. It was fulfilled again by Yeshua , SPERM OF DAVID thru Joseph his biological father. The Catholic or pagan translators corrupted the text big time. His word is established by 2 or 3 witnesses. Romans 1:3-4 is clear!!

[@admiralmurat2777]

quite possible

[@henryj.wilson8001]

Jesus was never called almighty God YHWH When Jesus was born from a child til he reached manhood he never performed a miracle, only after his father spirit came upon him, so Jesus can't be god the father and the dead sea scrolls says a strong god

[@bosse641]

Jesus the man and Jew, said he could do nothing of himself. What kind of Almighty God can't do anything? And he said that God(The Father) "alone knew that day and hour" (Matthew 24:36) Clearly, if Jesus is God, He would know everything, coequal as He is with the 2 other Gods in the Godhead(according to Trinity doctrine). And Jesus clearly also said that God(The Father) is greater than he. (John 14:28) ....all of this proves that Jesus is NOT God. ....but the Trinitarians are not able to receive it. They love their man-made doctrines and traditions more than the truth.

[@grantknott]

John Grytbakk Well explained and simple to understand. It’s so unfortunate and frustrating that Trinitarians cannot fathom it

[@apilkey]

@@bosse641 No all of this proves that Jesus humbled Himself and laid aside His Divine power while in earth. Only an Almighty God could do that. He didn’t know the day or hour while on earth because He laid His perfect knowledge aside. Again, only an Almighty God could do that. Your points literally prove how Almighty Jesus is not disprove it. Scripture is clear according to ISAIAH 7:15; PHILIPPIANS 2:7,8; HEBREWS 2:9; ROMANS 1:3; ROMANS 8:3,4; HEBREWS 2:14-18; HEBREWS 4:14-16 that Christ took NOT on him the nature of angels but took on him the seed of Abraham and the seed of David according to the flesh and was made lower than the angels in the likeness of men. He was found in fashion as a man and likewise took part of the same flesh and blood as us. In ALL things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest. Again, this proves not disproves the Almightiness of Jesus Christ. Only an Almighty God could do the above.

[@bosse641]

@@apilkey "I YHVH change not." (Malachi 3:6) If Jesus was God leaving the Godhead, God changed. "God is NOT a man" (Numbers 23:19) Jesus is a man (1 Timothy 2:5) Yes even now after he was glorified by God and taken to Heaven is he still a man (Matthew 25:31) Son of man meaning "Human". The second Adam(Man) he is. Created by God just like the first Adam(Man) was.

[@apilkey]

@@bosse641 Jesus did not leave the Godhead or change. When scripture says God does not change it means He doesn’t change 👉WHO HE IS.👈 It does NOT mean He doesn’t change His mind or change His figure or appearance. He doesn’t change His CHARACTER. So if God is ONE GOD and 3 distinct persons then YES He doesn’t change who He is. Thanks for confirming.

[@stephanie-atarahrose.8149]

Hebrews 1:8-9?

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

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[@thechristisrisen4391]

This is misrepresenting trinitarians. The Father is not the Son. In Matthew 22:41-46 Jesus gives evidence of this. The verses for the context of Matthew 23. Jesus claims to be the Son of God. The concept of the trinity is made known in the New Testament. Jesus always points to the Father they both have different roles. In revelations 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega” says Jehova, “who is and who was and who is to come, the almighty.” Claiming he is before the foundations of existence ( of all things). In revelations 22:12-13 Jesus says “Look I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega the first and the last. The beginning and the end.” How can it be that they are both Alpha and Omega resembling the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. Only one of them can be beginning and end unless they are both eternal in nature but seperate persons while being the one triune God. I used JW bible but all bibles say the same. Furthermore in John 4:20 “Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain,” if you look at the interlinear Greek JW (Kingdom interlinear) available on JW apps. The Greek for worship is προσεκύνησαν. If you then go to Matthew 28:9 “they approached and took hold of his feet and did obeisance to him.” (Regular JW bible) then you switch over to Kingdom interlinear it says did obeisance is προσεκύνησαν in Greek. So either they worshiped Jesus feet like the ancestors worshipped in the mountain or they obeisance in the mountain like they obeisance at Jesus feet. The exact same Greek word is used for both. None of this will convince you if your heart is not seeking God. My goal is not to convince you as you know only God can move you heart I can only be the messenger. Seek God in your time and ask him to reveal himself to you. May God bless you and keep you stay close to his word.

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

Yes the Father is not the Son. Now start over.

[@thechristisrisen4391]

@@TheTrinityDelusion You claim that Jesus said to never call anyone Father but it must be read in its context because he is not saying it literally. In Matthew 5:22 Jesus says to never call someone a fool because they will be liable to the hell of fire. Yet in Matthew 23:17 Jesus himself calls the Pharisees blind fools. By your standards you set up Jesus to be a sinner. In doing so you devalue the entire significance of Jesus’s coming and sacrifice. Just saying start again and not looking into the claim is a disingenuous act and everyone who watches this therefore will not receive the full truth Jesus seeks to give. Teachers of the word will be judged to a different standard as I’m sure you know.

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

@@thechristisrisen4391Your post suggests Jesus didn't mean what he said.

[@watchtoweralert1]

Jeff Benner agees with you Kel

[@admiralmurat2777]

lol Christianity is an expert at ignoring the context of Isiah 14.

[@44place85]

READ ISAIAH 9:7 Jesus never fulfilled this

[@northoftoofar3772]

Not yet. It will be fulfilled when he returns.

[@44place85]

@@northoftoofar3772 so the king of the Jews came once and then He will come a second time?

[@northoftoofar3772]

@@44place85 Of course. That's kind of the whole point.

[@ounkwon6442]

Deluded Trinitarians delude themselves and delude others.

[@davidbrainerd1520]

Am I alone in seeing that the child in Isaiah 7 is nothing but a glorified clock to show when the King of Assyria will arrive? That the same child is clearly shown in Isaiah 8 to have been born in Isaiah's day. That all this rigmarole regarding the King of Assyria chasing off Rezin the King of Syria and all of that obviously took place 700 years before Jesus. And that, therefore, the child in Isaiah 7-9 is Hezekiah, as the Jews say it is. Therefore, its absurd to use any of it in reference to Jesus at all. And that furthermore, Isaiah has just exaggerated the importance of the child in chapter 9; in the preceding chapters, the child is very tame, just a glorified clock to show when the HERO, the King of Assyria, will arrive; now Isaiah blows the child out of proportion to reality. Why? Because the first parts were clearly written as prophecy AFTER the fact, but chapter 9 is truly attempting to tell the future (but clearly fails, as Hezekiah doesn't live up to these larger than life titles). Isaiah is just a pseudo-prophet, if you learn to read the Old Testament properly and in context; just a fact. Christianity here is basing fake messianic prophecy on the ranting of a failed prophet.

[@jmndp30]

Jesus Christ is YHWH!

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

Sorry but no.

[@jmndp30]

The Trinity Delusion when you deny the Deity and Pre existence of Jesus, you will ignore an enormous amount of passages in the Scripture. John 1:10 King James Version (KJV) 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 👉the world was made through him!

[@TheTrinityDelusion]

Did you completely miss the Father too? "See how great a love THE FATHER has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God and we are. For this reason THE WORLD does not know us, because IT DID NOT KNOW HIM. 1 John 3:1 He was in the world, and the world was came to be through Him, and THE WORLD DID NOT KNOW HIM. John 1:10 O righteous Father, although THE WORLD HAS NOT KNOWN YOU, yet I have known You. John 17:25

[@jmndp30]

The Trinity Delusion the Son incarnated (John 1:14, 18) the Son prayed to the Father in Heaven No one had seen the Father except the Son(John 1:18) People are not expected to see the Father but the Messiah who became a man, that is the Son (Matthew 16:16)

[@jmndp30]

The Trinity Delusion When we missed to see the Son(actual then, figurative now) we will miss to see the Father(John 14) but the title “Son” will not mean anything if we consider him a created being like us. God is our Savior.

[@shit2fly]

אֵל ʼêl, ale; shortened from *H352; strength; as adjective* , mighty; especially the Almighty (*but used also of any deity*):-God (god), × goodly, × great, idol, might(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in '-el.' אַיִל ʼayil, ah'-yil; from the same as H193; properly, strength; hence, anything strong; specifically a chief (politically); also a ram (from his strength); a pilaster (as a strong support); an oak or other strong tree:-mighty (man), lintel, oak, post, ram, tree. YHWH alone is El Shaddai, the Almighty God. Exo 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty/ El-Shaddai, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. שַׁדַּי Shadday The KJV translates Strong's H7706 in the following manner: Almighty (48x). Outline of Biblical Usage [?] almighty, most powerful Shaddai, the Almighty (of God)