Isaiah Thomas Tells Draymond Green That Kevin Durant Saved The Golden State Warriors Legacy | Pod

Isaiah Thomas Tells Draymond Green That Kevin Durant Saved The Golden State Warriors Legacy | Pod

[@patrickbrooks643]

What I like about What Isaiah said. He said it directly to Draymond’s face, he knew it wouldn’t be popular and it wasn’t some quote he gave to a reporter. Much respect when you can look a man in the eye and tell him what you really think about him.

[@ojoj5194]

Knicks fan from Monte carlo here: I agree with you. the media knows all about what you just say Sir. but they choice to call out kd for his move to the warriors, cuz doin that KD stop bron for winning more rings, thats why the media is so upset even after 6yrs they still talkin about kd/warriors . i believe without kd the cavs would beat the warriors 16/17 that cavs team was scary

[@gywc3oj]

wdym “look a man in the eye and tell him what u really think about him”? u say that like its a personal thing, or like its a negative thing. it’s just basketball. and dray is the one who got KD to gs, so if anything dray is the mastermind and key to the dynasty.

[@savonsanders8684]

@@ojoj5194Not really. They lost by 4 after Bogurt their rim protector went down that same game Green was suspended. Steph was playing on one leg and fouled out one game? They only lost by 4. If Barnes came back better and GS was healthy they beat Cavs 4-1 in 2017. 2018, if Kyrie loses they do it again. People act like Cavs didn’t have everything go in their favor for them to win. They didn’t win because they were better that’s fact. GS with everything going wrong only lost by 4 with no rim protector and the MVP on one leg…. Make it make sense and leave the biased takes out of there because I can tell when people are repeating what’s been said instead of looking at facts objectively.

[@gywc3oj]

⁠@@ojoj5194 see i don’t get how some people say that cavs team was scary, but others say bron had no help. like which is it?😭

[@MunnaWill07]

@@ojoj5194 More rings? We can argue who couldve won in 2017 but 2018 kyrie left Bron was not beating that gsw team even without KD. Bron needed Kyrie to help him win the finals without Kyrie we saw what happened.

[@ahkenatonfurdge1207]

“ I hope this don’t upset you “ Isaiah😂😂

[@billbangz]

No lies told...

[@rawchickensandwich]

How many titles does KD have without Steph? How many do the warriors have without KD?

[@Will203_]

Big facts!! That KD move cost lebron at least one chip

[@bdukes8075]

At least 1 probably 2-3 🤦‍♂️😂

[@joeymiddleton5821]

6 bron lost many i cant remember but nevermind me

[@smoothsavage2870]

It costed Lebron 2 rings. Lebron would've still made it to the finals in 2017 and 2018, we just didnt know what team was going to meet him there had KD not gone to the Warriors. He most likely beats whoever they were due to experience in the finals.

[@KeepItNmotion864]

Cost Bron 2 rings

[@joeymiddleton5821]

@@KeepItNmotion864 stop stackimg teams maybe warriors wouldnt did that. bron still has only 1 ring without stacked team and thats the bubble ring

[@zikemdg]

I'm glad he's telling Draymond this to his face, even though the league and media was all for breaking this offensive juggernaut up, This fool started the resentment.

[@DAFR2849]

As a KD fan, I still hate the Warriors to this day for being so ungrateful to the man that saved their legacy

[@darnellwilliams8783]

@DaveBtm998 fact this is why I Love Isiah Thomas so much he alwyas tells the truth because the media and casual fans hate KD and discredit his rings .and Isiah Thomas is a top 5 Point guard all time

[@kenjie1646]

Nice try !d!0T offcourse DUBS is thankful to KD but KD should be thankful also that DUBS save his legacy if not he still be ringless up to this day 🤣🤣🤣... know your FACTS

[@GP-ud7fr]

So why didn’t KD win in OKC, NJ and Phoenix 😂

[@euro51116]

Im not a KD fan but I am a Warriors hater and could not agree more. Some of the most ungrateful fans, KD is the only reason theyre considered a "dynasty"

[@kenjie1646]

@@euro51116 lol your just an !d!0T... admitting your a warriors hater make you more stupid beyond stupid 🤣🤣🤣

[@dreamdifferentsociety6531]

Damn he was cooking

[@dannykee7462]

Some of yall missing the point, GSW would've lost to Cleveland had they faced them without Durant....It seems like everyone wants to forget Draymond texted KD to join up, they recruited KD because they needed KD, and thats exactly why when Isiah Thomas said it to Draymond face, Draymond couldn't argue it

[@moseswilliams9888]

Facts

[@che8867]

100% FACTS

[@h.a.m.5220]

What a slap in the face 😂

[@ITzTricky_x]

Was a plug and play position . If golden state were healthy (Steph was recovering from injury, bogut was injured / dray suspended) they would have won that year and the year after regardless

[@BrickBabyYaya]

Don't lie bro they blew a 3-1 lead against LeBron and Kyrie. They beat LeBron without Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving and still went to 6 games without KD they were getting dragged by Toronto and Klay getting hurt in game 6 was bad luck but the warriors were a Kyle Lowry 3 ball away from being beaten in 5 games in the finals. Without KD they wouldn't have beaten the Spurs, Thunder, or Rockets

[@ITzTricky_x]

@@BrickBabyYaya if peak Steph Klay are hitting shots. No one can beat them. Simple formula.

[@ahankumar555]

bro this is Isiah not Isaiah

[@smoothsavage2870]

Also, of course Isaiah was going to say that to Draymond's face lol. Yall have to remember that Isaiah is from the West side of Chicago and he played in a tougher era of basketball. He seems nice and bubbly, but that dont make him scared.

[@TopDrifter203]

I respect Isaiah for saying what he said but People never want to point out the fact that Bogut Iggy Steph got hurt in that series like that is a very important piece that needs to be pointed out because that's the reason the series had shifted but everyone has their opinions on it is what it is 🤷‍♀

[@dparks2856]

The league mvp was on the court right?

[@savonsanders8684]

@@dparks2856Steph was on one leg but he didn’t make excuses for the L, even though Bron broke his hand supposedly and was still dunking the ball during the series but soon as he’s swept he’s wearing a cast lol?

[@dparks2856]

@@savonsanders8684 Oh poor steph

[@benndarayta9156]

​@@savonsanders8684 He also fell and hit his head that one game that season

[@smoothsavage2870]

But Steph was ass in that series too. When Lebron didnt have Love and Kyrie, he went on to average 36pts, 13 rebs and 8 assists. He was missing CORE players. Bogut and Iggy were role players. In the 2016 finals Steph averaged 22pts, 5 rebs and 4 assists. In that same series, Lebron averaged 30pts 11 rebs and 9 assists. Literally EVERY series Steph and Lebron have gone head to head in, Lebron was the better player, injuries or not. That's why the Warriors got KD.

[@scottbabien4395]

Where's Draymonds reaction

[@mcb7691]

man,you can just see the lividness in Draymond's face as Isaiah told him the truth lol I've always been told that the truth hurts and you can see the pain all over Draymond's face as he took it all in, lol tough get over it it is the truth!

[@flip0x01]

what if klove and kyrie were healthy? all what ifs.. a win is a win and a loss is a loss

[@daveswish6934]

facts 😂

[@July9326]

Exactly why their so called dynasty aint a legit dynasty. You didn't see kobe and Duncan team up in the 2000s to ruin the league and fix their problems

[@xkid.darkskin5178]

warriors fans crying in the comments and hate the facts no way they are beating lebron, kyrie and kevin love without KD.. anyways warriors fighting for a play-in spot this year 😂😂😂 don’t @ me

[@kashmir5173]

Same way around, Golden state saved Durant's Legacy.. if Durant did not go to Warriors, he is one of ring less superstar in NBA up to this day 💯.

[@cedricwong1118]

So true

[@matthewlee4697]

Draymond kinda already knew that...he even hinted before that the warriors would've lost the next year if they played the cavs again because the cavs and the other teams have figured them out.... basically hinted that if it wasnt for kd the warriors would of been toast. If anything he was probably surprised isaiah told him about kd infront of him in such a bold way but isaiah is from the old school lol.

[@k.lee28]

*KD going to Golden State is an great example of fear and the greatness of LJ* and Kyrie, Love and the rest of the Cavs were spectacular 2016 winning Championship. *If KD doesn't go to GSW LJ and the Cavs winning 2017, 2018 Championship* pending Kyrie stays, matures and accepts his role as No. 2. *Nobody ever did something like this in nba history to just to beat MJ* Also, LJ going to Miami is NOT the same as KD goig to the warriors. LJ left the Cavs after 7 years of nothing and 1 Finals appearance in 2007 to compete against Celtics 4 Hall of Famers with PP, KG, Ray, and Rondo and Spurs 3 Hall of Famers with Tim Ducan, Parker, Ginobili, OKC with KD, Russ, Harden (3 Hall of Famers & all will be eventual NBA MVPs). *While playing Miami LJ was back to back NBA MVP, Finals MVP, and Champion The Triple Crown of the NBA in my opinion* and furthermore *LJ arguably robbed of the DPOY award in 2013* the league gifting it to Marc dang Garsol when he was 2nd team defense and wasnt 1st team like LJ and the best defender that year. *This means LJ was the best in league and on his team in Miami* even with Wade and Bosh and Ray Allen. *KD never won anything outside of GS* and the hired mercenary was ship away 1 yeat later. *All of this was done to keep LJ from more rings*

[@abbywalton2718]

F Draymonds feelings!! What Isaiah said is 100% TRUE! 😂😂..

[@CS-np2oo]

I'm a Celtics fan... no dog in the fight. People need to really start putting respect ON KD name. Though Golden State was talented.....what Isaiah said is true. KD saved their legacy! He doesn't come, and they're possibly the biggest chokers EVER in league history, and do they win two more, and we look at them like we do ? Thomas spoke, "No lies....

[@jakieresykes3644]

And what has he won outside of Golden State nothing they won without him twice they needed each other

[@cloudzundersky]

Isaiah's got deep ties with the suns right now. Not surprised he's saying this

[@DAFR2849]

Keep looking for excuses as to why he thinks this 🤣

[@mansakhanlv8487]

🤦

[@KeepItNmotion864]

Exactly cause them Warriors was not beating Cleveland

[@innerstatescrilla1887]

How? They already won before him but KD hasn't won before or after GSW.. yikes!

[@mansakhanlv8487]

To his face … respectfully….

[@TheBlackSands]

Nonsense 💯

[@DAFR2849]

No your just ignorant.

[@Z-gotsoles]

Kd couldn't even lead the team when curry was out..remember the wins and losses when curry was out healing his injury??

[@gregorycamacho5798]

Finally, someone says it how it is. KD saved not only Curry's legacy but the whole Golden State players and organization. Without KD, Curry would be remembered as the only Superstar that lost a 3-1 lead in the finals.

[@savonsanders8684]

It took everything going wrong for GS to only lose by 4, and you think GS needed KD smdh?! Tell me you didn’t watch that Finals without actually telling me. Steph was on one leg rs. Iggy was hurt. Bogurt goes down in the same game Green is suspended fam which was why the Cavs paint points went up but y’all ignore that. Anyone with some common sense knows that if GS full squad is healthy in 2016, they’re gentlemen sweeping the Cavs, or beating them 4-0.

[@benndarayta9156]

So by You're logic Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, Love saved lebron's legacy

[@benndarayta9156]

Gsw had no business winning 2016 finals cuz if they did lebron would be 0 - 4 against Curry and MJ's/bulls record will be broken, that's two goats right there, there legacy will forever be tarnished

[@gregorycamacho5798]

Sorry man, but you're just a fan talking. I rather listen to what real NBA players have to say. Plus, these are the exact same words Draymond said himself on his own podcast, which is why he takes no offense from it. The Warriors reached out to KD to join them because they knew deep down they would never beat Lebron & Cavs after that total collapse.

[@benndarayta9156]

@@gregorycamacho5798 I mean 1-3 is better than 0-4🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hocheoungyip3634]

this guy is infamous for hating on something that he couldnt accomplished. Michael jordan is the best example. why would anyone waste a bit second to hear him say a single word😂

[@totallynotkuminga]

Jonathan Kuminga

[@cprophetu]

Tired of these Warrior fans forgetting how KD saved the warriors and Steph legacy. Smh. Every knows that LeBron would have bare minimum 1 more chip but KD snatch it away.

[@smoothsavage2870]

And Isaiah Thomas is 100% right. People forget that after that 2016 finals series, all people were doing was making 3-1 jokes. Those jokes went away IMMEDIATELY after KD showed up a month or so later.

[@messityler4121]

i dont think so gsw got 73 win, both draymond and klay was prime years, especially on the defensive side and its still a 3-1 lead regardless, kd just made it easier and its almost a guaranteed gws will make the finals again with or without kd, its a vegas thing 90% chance to make the final turn 99.9% when kd arrived

[@benndarayta9156]

Wether gsw win or lose in 2016, they where gonna get KD anyway, that move started way back 2014

[@OneNOnlyCommanderFamily]

With that being said kd might have lost to Golden State 3-1 in the conference finals but that was the very same year golden state lost a 3-1 led in the finals all kd need is a championship without the warriors and just like Cody he'll finish his story the end.

[@DAFR2849]

Just imagine what Curry’s legacy would’ve looked like if KD didn’t go to the Warriors 😂

[@DAFR2849]

@@4THA just saying that his legacy would be worse than it is now, especially after the 2016 finals

[@maikomax01]

​@@DAFR2849lol worse talking about like a guy has a bad career you just straight up hatin

[@DAFR2849]

@@maikomax01 do y’all Curry fans always need to call everything hate? I’m speaking the plain truth that y’all don’t want to talk about lmao

[@kenjie1646]

​@@DAFR2849what would be KD legacy if he didnt join the warriors 🤣🤣🤣... Bro your fucking !d!0T no MEDS to cure that 😂😂😂

[@jakieresykes3644]

@@DAFR2849 And what would KD legacy be if he didn’t go to Golden State because Golden State has proven they can win without KD twice KD has never proven he can outside of Golden State they needed each other

[@Devin_Booger]

Ok so tell me this, why didn’t kd win when he had kyrie and harden and right now with Beal and booker still having a hard time to get another ring😂😂

[@Apexssb]

kyrie and harden were both injured in the playoffs and kd was alone lol

[@brandenwhite3459]

Warriors saved KD legacy, he lost to us while having a 3-1 lead. Let’s not for get that the league suspended draymond, Iggy and Bogan got injured. We’ve proven we could have won without Kd but Kd hadn’t proven he could have won without the warriors

[@SS-mo5ld]

They still won 1 after Durant. What have Durant won after the Warriors? Whining, complaining, switching teams, trying to create superteams that fail. Case Closed Isaiah.

[@o.t.d_ody_the_dreamer]

Hhhhh, Isaiah didn't lie. If they didn't get KD, LeBron was gonna body them again. This is from a Warriors fan. They beat an inexperienced Celtics team😅. They should have won, and they did.

[@o.t.d_ody_the_dreamer]

KD failed in Brookyln because of injuries and bad teammates.

[@earlsanity]

He is saying that if they went back to the finals after that 3-1 comeback lost to cavs and face lebron and the cavs again the next year? I dont think gsw without kd are beating bron and the cavs in the finals.

[@DAFR2849]

The Warriors would’ve lost two finals without him, KD would’ve won a ring in 2021 if his team was healthy

[@smoothsavage2870]

Did they beat Lebron to get it? Cuz last i checked Jayson Tatum aint the one that made Draymond call KD.

[@way2kool876]

But coming to the Warriors also saved KD legacy cuz hes aint winning another chip.

[@jaywillup]

We already knew this.If the Warriors don’t make a move like that Lebron is King for real.The Warriors are the major reason.Why Lebron has a losing record in the finals.

[@Caimon7]

it makes sense until u realize they won in 2022 without kd and kd never went to the finals after leaving gs

[@franklinvibes7701]

That doesn't negate what he said at all. What he said was straight facts

[@Brickanalyser]

I'm a dubs fan but I got to say he's kinda right man.. No one was near Bron's level in 2017 and 2018 when we won in 2022. We prolly would've lost to Bron those years without KD but that doesn't mean KD can win without us too, everything just fell nicely into place and we managed to see the greatest team over this decade

[@Caimon7]

@@franklinvibes7701 he said that they wouldn't win the 2 chips without kd but who can guarantee that? No one. And using the same logic the players that helped lebron win "saved his legacy"? Going to gs saved kd's legacy? That logic doesnt make sense to me

[@Caimon7]

@@Brickanalyser it's not guaranteed that gs would lose to cavs those years, no one knows for sure, but on the other hand kd without gs would have no titles no finals mvp, so u can say gs gave kd his legacy? It's just about how u choose to see things

[@Brickanalyser]

@@Caimon7 Yeah I would definitely say dubs gave KD his legacy for sure, he got nothing without us, that I don't disagree. Or he could be a ringless, FMVP-less legend if that's what people want to crown him as

[@AJLMM]

What’s wrong with you ?? The hate didn’t he Warriors and Steph is crazy

[@frajoelyouvid]

Isaiah resents the Warriors success. Bitter all the way.

[@rodgerolivares4673]

That's what it sounded like to me. League still has ptsd from that super team.

[@Esco_Season24]

Nahh he’s just telling the truth

[@DAFR2849]

Your calling him a hater for speaking the truth? delusional

[@havefunoutthere6378]

What an absolute punk.

[@Z-gotsoles]

The 3-1 choked were cost by Adam Silver favoring lebron..the momentum were with gsw until they suspend green.. Bias

[@pallani8471]

Kevin love missed a game too but yall always leave that out

[@sup9542]

No one actually knows what would have happened without Durant. But you can't say their legacies would be ruined. I question if Isiah even watches basketball anymore. Does he know they won in 2022?

[@cprophetu]

You fail to realize one move can change the trajectory of a franchise and legacy. SMH . That was his point. In this case , 2nd best player in the league( top3 arguably) joining an all time great team.

[@moseswilliams9888]

steph have never outplayed lebron or kd in any series, not even when they beat okc from down 3-1, draymond knew exactly what he was doing, and now try to ride the narrative that they didn't need kd, i can argue kd saved to warriors legacy and actually hurt his instead, he would of been top 15 regardless, now the haters ignore his greatness before the warriors

[@jmgonzaga7719]

who carries who. talk, if KD had a ring other than his warriors ring. LOL. SC = Bron's pops, sckrs

[@pallani8471]

Steph curry is 1-1 in the finals against bron. The KD chips are worthless

[@cpowerca]

they won 2 without KD, if KD saved warriors then how much KD is being saved by the 2 rings? dude would have zero rings lmao

[@sportstalkonly1442]

And warriors would have 2 instead of 4.

[@lazygenius3958]

Look at all these bitter warrior fans acting like winning 2 rings in 7 years is a dynasty 🤣

[@DAFR2849]

Y’all Warriors fans are such a delusional fanbase, acting like KD didn’t save y’all asses when Curry choked a 3-1 lead in the finals

[@smoothsavage2870]

How many would the Warriors have by going through Lebron? It's like yall forget the person that made the Warriors recruit KD in the first place lmao. Draymond aint call KD for Jayson Tatum my guy.

[@MCGEHEE1]

Bull!

[@romansmith7885]

Tough pill to swallow huh Draymond-

[@FixxxerZ7]

Isaiah Thomas once again saying completely idiotic things, as always....

[@DAFR2849]

Someone’s mad that he’s starting to make sense

[@FixxxerZ7]

@@DAFR2849 nah, he's not making sense at all actually.

[@DAFR2849]

@@FixxxerZ7 he is, a grown man crying about someone speaking the truth lmao

[@FixxxerZ7]

@@DAFR2849 Nobody is crying, relax mister edgelord. Look at you, a grown man being delusional about things.

[@smoothsavage2870]

@@FixxxerZ7 Isaiah is 100% right and you'd have to be someone who didnt start watching basketball until 2015 to say otherwise. If KD never joined and helped them win 2 back to back everybody would've gave them hell for being a 73-9 team that is the only team in history to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals. The only reason they didnt have to hear that narrative for years is because of KD. Now people act like they were the best team in the world when KD joined despite them losing historically that year.

[@hmmm7835]

Yes...just yes

[@MunnaWill07]

Why isnt KD winning without Curry? If KD never went to GSW Curry would still have more rings than him😂😂

[@DAFR2849]

Do you have CTE? ever heard of injuries? he would’ve won in 2021 if his team was healthy

[@jakieresykes3644]

@@DAFR2849What about the same year Golden State won their 2nd title without KD against Boston that season Boston team swept KD and Kyrie the same year

[@jaitseng]

Nobody cares what Isaiah has to say. I liked the Bad Boy Pistons but he's just been trying to stay relevant ever since. Bad GM, bad coach, bad analyst. Forever jealous of Jordan. Never giving anyone credit bc he thinks he's the best.

[@DAFR2849]

Yes, keep hating on Isaiah for hurting your feelings by speaking the truth 😂

[@smoothsavage2870]

"I dont agree with Isaiah so im just going to say he's jealous of Jordan 😭". When Isaiah lost to the Lakers in the finals, he didnt go and call Jordan to help him beat them. Remember that.

[@CastorTroy30]

No wonder NOBODY likes this fool! From the 90’s to THIS DAY! He’s saying incomplete facts. The Warriors WON before and after KD. Sure KD was a huge help but this fool didn’t mention the injuries of Curry, Iggy, Bogut. Sure, the Warriors collapsed but I doubt they’ll be remembered as the 73-9 team that lost. However, Isiah Thomas will ALWAYS be remembered as the player who never made it to the Dream Team and blamed and hold grudges to THIS DAY to MJ!

[@XQ273]

That’s where you’re wrong sir. That 73-9 warriors team will have always have an asterisk for losing a 3-1 lead. It’s like how fans will forever remember the Falcons blowing a 28-3 lead. You can’t bring up injuries neither because 2015 Cavs were riddled with injuries to key players like Love and Kyrie. So you can say that cancels out. What IT is saying is facts, KD saved y’all point blank. We know Warriors had won without him but we are talking about that moment after the choke job.

[@cprophetu]

Thank you

[@smoothsavage2870]

Aw, Zeke hurt your feelings so you're attacking him lmao. The Warriors WON before KD due to injuries. Nobody at that time other than Warriors fans and Lebron haters (im one of these) actually gave them credit for that win. Then the Cavs came back to beat them. EVERYBODY was saying 3-1 jokes all offseason until KD joined. Isaiah is 100% correct about what their legacy would've been had KD never joined. People overlook the only team to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals because they repeated right afterwards. If KD didnt go there, they wouldnt have won again until 2022. The 73-9 team that was the only team to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals would've been the running joke for YEARS instead of just a month.

[@CastorTroy30]

Bottomline is this, since we’re talking about legacy here, Yes, GSW blew a 3-1 lead which sucks but that’s NOT their legacy. They will be remembered as a Dynasty team with a player who changed how the game is played nowadays. That’s why, everyone is talking about their Dynasty is over. Which as a fan, I can see happening…….But what is Zeke’s legacy? The guy who never made it to The Dream Team and UP TO THIS DAY still complains about it and still blames MJ for it. Facts!

[@smoothsavage2870]

@@CastorTroy30 Zeke's legacy was beating the Showtime Lakers in the finals in the 80s without having to call another superstar that was KD level (would've been MJ at that time) to do it. And it's no secret that MJ and Zeke didnt like each other, so it aint farfetched that MJ (the biggest NBA star at that time) would've had the pull to keep Zeke off the Dream Team.

[@AlanAj24]

So many Steph crybabies here, Steph is not actually good apart from shooting off screen 3 pointers.

[@GP-ud7fr]

Inaccurate they were 73-9 and ran out of gas additionally KD was an additional piece which made GSW great!! For the record KD hasn’t won since