How To Decide What Type Of Jump Training To Do

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Isaiah Rivera

Isaiah Rivera

Күн бұрын

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@flomoss6206
@flomoss6206 4 күн бұрын
idk whats more insane Isaiah's vertical or John's hair
@kehmer
@kehmer 4 күн бұрын
johns hair is isaiahs vertical
@MarcusYoung-mt6jw
@MarcusYoung-mt6jw 4 күн бұрын
He’s slowly becoming an anime character
@lvumba4513
@lvumba4513 2 күн бұрын
@@kehmer😂😂😂
@skowron3601
@skowron3601 4 күн бұрын
I am a coach and I was listening your podcasts about overload eccentrics, you published it right before I was jumping into my cycle with overload eccentrics. Today was the first session and I was also doing overloaded eccentrics for the first time myself and I didn't try it with my athletes yet because I want to test something on myself to gain practical knowledge before applying it to my athletes. Back Squat part of the Session was supposed to be: 1. 92% of 1RM AMRAP, based on which I was choosing the weight for next sets 2. 105% of 1RM overloaded eccentric 10 reps (I had to change the weight myself so it was 1set 10 reps or 10 sets of 1 rep depends how you want to call it) I noticed few issues: -weight is not challenging in the 180-90 degree of knee flexion -weight is not challangind under parallel (about 60 degrees) because it was just falling so weight was only challanging in the 90-60 degree of knee flexion I wasn't training anything in quarter squat position nor in the deep squat I tried to play around with it and came with an idea to attach 2 middle resistance bands to the barbell and I lowered the weight of the barbell from 105% of 1RM to 99% of 1RM resistance of the barbell was looking something like this: 130% of 1RM on the top 120% of 1RM in the quarter squat 110% of 1RM in the half squat band was totally loose right above parallel so: 99% of 1RM in parallel 99% of 1RM in deep squat this fixed all the problems, now barbell was challanging from 120 degree knee flexion - 45 degree knee flexion instead of 90-60 and I could focus on deep position also as I was able to control the barbell nearly to totally deep squat Time under tension lengthen from 4s to 6s what do you think about applaying this type of strategy to advanced/elite athletes? (im intermediate myself). can this mess them up due to lengthen time under maximal tension? or just by decreasing the number of reps we can upgrade it like this? attaching band enables to train under maximal tension in more specific posistions(because you achive max tension under the quarter squat instead of half squat), is this a pro? my practical suggestion in the cycle periodization would look like this if in one cycle you want to train 6 sessions with overloaded eccentrics: session one: 104% of 1RM - 12 reps total session two: 98-102% of 1RM with bands having similar resistance as earlier discussed - 9 reps total session three: 104% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session four: 106% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session five: 108% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session six: 110% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total in classic way of decreasing volume and increasing intensity (volume decrease because time under tension and time under maximal tension are going down with constantly increasing % of 1RM)
@Meteo_sauce
@Meteo_sauce 17 сағат бұрын
they should pin this comment it seems legit (idk seems legit i know nothing on whatever he's saying)
@hunterwilliams2572
@hunterwilliams2572 4 күн бұрын
A fan of you guys and he who shall not be named
@Ehh-nx7nk
@Ehh-nx7nk 13 сағат бұрын
Name him
@christianb164
@christianb164 4 күн бұрын
On today’s episode of Johns insane hair style
@BIGBENMACDOUCE
@BIGBENMACDOUCE 4 күн бұрын
I love how you dive deep into jumping. I’m listening to you a lot, but at this time, I don’t have the time to train. I’m also watching your videos to learn more about how to train to jump, because i’m a teacher, and I love to transit this knowledge down to these kids who wants to dunk, but I would feel bad to buy your training and then apply what I learned with my students. Would this be bad? I wouldn’t make any profit, but i’d pass down something that I paid for that is supposed to be for me only. If someone has a thought on that, let me know.
@Criyashun
@Criyashun 4 күн бұрын
Chances are that these kids wouldn’t pay anyway, and I think that the training program is curated to you specifically. Otherwise it wouldn’t be worth paying for. As an 18 year old volleyball player with a 36 inch vertical, getting to this level of performance doesn’t require world class training, just consistency and effort. Plus, you can find all of the necessary information in this guys channel, since like I said, I think the training is specifically for people like me that are trying to ascend past the 36-40 inch threshold. Hope this helps, and im glad you’re so thoughtful!
@troliskimosko
@troliskimosko 4 күн бұрын
I guarantee they wouldn’t mind
@BIGBENMACDOUCE
@BIGBENMACDOUCE 3 күн бұрын
@@Criyashun great response man, I appreciate the time tou took to write that. Keep on jumping ;)
@malavkapadia7612
@malavkapadia7612 3 күн бұрын
I'm in a very similar situation! I'm finishing my final year of teacher's college before becoming a full time teacher and I really want to pass on this knowledge and training to my students. I've been trying to incorporate some THP training with my volleyball students. If you're going to be training a lot of students at once, you can try to use them like guinea pigs (while trying to minimise risk of injury, ofc) by testing different training cycles and seeing what works best for them!
@AirJuanDunks
@AirJuanDunks 4 күн бұрын
john hair
@CccCcc-h9m
@CccCcc-h9m 4 күн бұрын
For a stiff core u can do fast chinups with an electric ab toner u gotta tape it if I get a cheap one
@debo_dunks
@debo_dunks 4 күн бұрын
p90x is legendary talkin about “i did ten” “last one best one”
@mysteriulanguescendumabsco5766
@mysteriulanguescendumabsco5766 2 күн бұрын
The most important thing in jumping is the posture and contraction speed that understands the mechanism. There is a man who can perform 363cm standing long jump and 44inch standing vertical with his strength barely performing the 120kg half squat
@sossburner
@sossburner 4 күн бұрын
Would love to hear your thoughts on PJF performance vert code
@troliskimosko
@troliskimosko 4 күн бұрын
John thinks Paul is pretty good but Paul definitely puts a lot of way too general stuff in his programs like pool work except not used as general work
@francis_L
@francis_L 4 күн бұрын
I aint ever leaving!
@Crimilion
@Crimilion Күн бұрын
Im stuck at 36inch right now this video is perfect
@alvikorlov
@alvikorlov 4 күн бұрын
Ben Patrick/ Kneesovertoes is “hewhocannotbenamed”
@jacobgp8893
@jacobgp8893 4 күн бұрын
is there beef?
@theheebs100
@theheebs100 4 күн бұрын
@@jacobgp8893 Bro, there is a whole damn cow.
@eddieXDD
@eddieXDD 4 күн бұрын
@@theheebs100 where can I see it
@plothaki
@plothaki 4 күн бұрын
He who can't be named is definitely knees over toes guy...
@CccCcc-h9m
@CccCcc-h9m 4 күн бұрын
U literally have to recover from your training and pr your depth drops to the point where you need to kind use ur hand and bound after for 4 reps then after u recover do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps and when you recover have a jump session and the next day focus on deep squats and go back to training
@yarn_boi
@yarn_boi 4 күн бұрын
John’s hair is dope idk what y’all are saying
@KaiyiInu
@KaiyiInu 4 күн бұрын
Im 5'6 70kg ( 154 lbs ) and im close to touching the rim ( very close ) do you have any suggestions for improving my vertical i have done plyometrics and have imoroved my vertical from below 20 to 33 inches now ( around 30-33 usually ) i feel my vertical declinjgn recently snd i think it might be because of my lowerbody having too much mass, i play sports a lot, move a lot, run well, and I think my lowerbody night be too big and hindering my vertical any suggestions pls dieting and stuff doesnt work my upper body jas a lot of lean muscle and ive got a really aesthetic upperbody too, my lowerbody has muscles and its more muscles than fats but i cant help but feel i can shave off a bit of fats and add a bit of muscles. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated i also think of doign micro cycles for vertical jump training eventually because i still play basketball and its my focus to have a good vertical most of the time
@rishabhkonjengbam9824
@rishabhkonjengbam9824 4 күн бұрын
Hey I’m 6ft skinny dude I can touch the rim but can’t dunk any tips?
@Baytowne0888
@Baytowne0888 4 күн бұрын
Watch the video, find a way to train that addresses your specific problems, then do that training consistently.
@Call911forpizza
@Call911forpizza 4 күн бұрын
Keep jumping 1-2 times a week and get stronger and more powerful
@Kostianotrading
@Kostianotrading 4 күн бұрын
1.Get lean 2.Learn how to lift and get stronger 3.Jump 2-3 times a week 4.Improve jump technique Then u will dunk
@rishabhkonjengbam9824
@rishabhkonjengbam9824 4 күн бұрын
@@Kostianotrading thanks bro🫂
@Bustmymcnuts
@Bustmymcnuts 4 күн бұрын
5. Have fun
@martiallife2850
@martiallife2850 4 күн бұрын
What do you mean Isaiah got too specific in his training? Was he jumping too much or like specific in his lifting
@s.Gojira
@s.Gojira 4 күн бұрын
Both, too much jumping and too much specific lifts done all the time will lead to fatigue and eventually injury
@ethangonda9067
@ethangonda9067 4 күн бұрын
I love a lot of the content that you guys produce and try to listen to every pod or watch the vids, but I can’t lie it seems like 30-40% of it is glazing yourselves… like can yall segment the video so we know when you start getting into the meat of it?
@davdo6
@davdo6 4 күн бұрын
Is this Harry Potter of jumping world ?
@eddiecase1976
@eddiecase1976 4 күн бұрын
I wish I knew who they were talking about sometimes. "He who shall not be named" or whoever took your shit and pawned it off as they're own.
@Footballkiddo7
@Footballkiddo7 4 күн бұрын
Mr. Kneesovertoes
@eddiecase1976
@eddiecase1976 4 күн бұрын
​@@Footballkiddo7 He ripped off THP?
@xwsora8664
@xwsora8664 4 күн бұрын
just want to point out that google scholar is definitely not all peer reviewed careful with some of the publications that can come from some dodgy journals
@CccCcc-h9m
@CccCcc-h9m 4 күн бұрын
Bro u gotta recover from your training and pr your depth jumps to the point where you kinda need to use ur hands and bound 4 times after for 3 reps than wait till you feel no fatigue and do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps but with high volume. After u recover have a jump session then the next day go back to your lifts but focus on doing your deep squats.
@troliskimosko
@troliskimosko 4 күн бұрын
Yall gotta stop naming he who shall not be named
@DocRiv
@DocRiv 4 күн бұрын
It is insanely tyrannical pride of not acknowledging the wisdoms and the experiences of others even if you’re great, you are still bridled
@stud_end123
@stud_end123 3 күн бұрын
Well, they say that they keep up to date with current research + they have their own anecdotal expierience coaching numerous types of athletes over the years... Its not like they arent trying to perfect their coaching either, right? They hired new coach that can bring a lot of new insight... Speaking from outsider perspective.. I dont think they ignore others opinions, its just that why would you listen to somebody who regularly underperforms in the same task as you do?
@DocRiv
@DocRiv 3 күн бұрын
@ Oh for sure, I wasn’t talking about them, it’s about the other people when they allegedly get great and they think they have it all
@Burkingdog
@Burkingdog 4 күн бұрын
You too guys need islam before you die
@CccCcc-h9m
@CccCcc-h9m 4 күн бұрын
U literally have to recover from your training and pr your depth drops to the point where you need to kind use ur hand and bound after for 4 reps then after u recover do stair sprints knee tuck jumps and Bulgarian split squat jumps keestucking and when you recover have a jump session and the next day focus on deep squats and go back to training
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