Isandlwana: The First Time The British Met The Zulus In Combat | Zulu Wars | Timeline

[@petergrech9030]

Thank you for producing these 🙏

[@pgandy1]

This is a good start. I thoroughly enjoyed the history leading up to the war. Before I’d only seen the individual battles, some well-presented. So far, this video has filled in many missing details. I trust there will be a follow up(s)? Thank you.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

"A sharp spear needs no polish." - H. Rider Haggard

[@MrSimonw58]

I'm English and I work with Zulus everyday

[@Mossyz.]

Me also...They love watching KZbin on my phone .x

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

I am Indian and a Zulu from Africa..live amongst them .. love ulundi and the Zulu king ....only king we know in jwa Zulu natal ...no Westminster here ..

[@mtheriotx]

Englands greatest export is independence days!!!

[@lkgreenwell]

The worlds peoples had to fight wars of independence to prevent us from dumping Quakers on them!

[@malcolmfrsr]

Truly underated comment 😂

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Yes, because they wouldn't even be countries otherwise.

[@Paolo-v9k]

Creo que fue realmente bueno. Algunas partes son sensibles. ¡Me alegra que me hayas llevado a ver este! Eres muy valiente. Gracias

[@rector0455]

Zulus attack, fight back to back!!!

[@lightning7243]

Show them no mercy and Fire at will!!!

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

It was an informative And thrilled watching historical coverage (video) about Zulu kingdom's relationships to Imperial British empire in Capetown. while white European settlers population intermediate that complicated relationship for themselves interesting...at the end British empire subdued both northern European Duch Republic and Zulu. kingdom's ...thank you Wonderful (Timeline )channel and (History Hit) network page for sharing this remarkable historical coverage video.

[@tempestvideos9834]

They don't get to the battle until the last few seconds... Then it ends without even talking about.

[@mjpope1012]

The British should have fortified their camp at iSandlwana. They were told to by some fearful Boers who were travelling with the Centre column. Chelmsford brushed it aside.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Not enough wagons and the wagons were needed to do shuttle duty to supply the invasion. Nor could they entrench. The ground was too stony. Didn't need to fortify. A tighter more compact firing line would have been enough, but Durnford chose to go on the attack and pressured Pulleine to support him. Durnford was largely to blame.

[@g.t.richardson6311]

rinse, repeat

[@lyndoncmp5751]

@g.t.richardson6311 Durnford was largely to blame. The senior commander at Isandlwana. The one who made the fatal tactical decisions and whom ignored both his own orders and those given to Pulleine.

[@g.t.richardson6311]

@@lyndoncmp5751 thank you very much, everyone has seen you post this 879 times, or some variation thereof Thanks again

[@martynpope8218]

Everyone? Really? Seems better & more sensible than your tosh. Go back to sleep, you were better then.

[@peterharren8909]

Sometimes I think we only look at peoples like the Zulu as the victims of Colonization. Often enough they were well developed, capable, and strong cultures. Unfortunately modern weaponry of the time was more than likely to seal the Zulu's fate like many before. The individual beliefs of the Europeans on racial equality certainly varied, but the poor man always fights the rich man's wars. This was no doubt the case here along with the subsequent Colonial abuse.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

The Zulus were colonisers themselves. They attained their lands by force and subjugation, even massacre.

[@peterharren8909]

@@lyndoncmp5751 Sure, like Europeans for centuries. But the level of industrialized exploitation was another thing. Humans do exploit each other, but that doesn't mitigate the outsized (historically unprecedented?) effects those of European decent have had. You can't change the past, your forefathers (should) own it. The question is are you willing to interrogate how you benefit? Unfortunately hiding from the past seems to be a worldwide trend.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

@@peterharren8909 What about how blacks in Africa have benefited? They gained advanced technology, more civilisation, democracy, governments, modern life saving medicines, abolishment of the slave trade, roads, railways, schools, universities......... and football. I don't think they'd prefer to be living in near stone age conditions without even the invention of the wheel or reading and writing.

[@peterharren8909]

@@lyndoncmp5751 Stable Governments? Right. Natural resources and political manipulation up to the present have broken much in Africa. Sure there has been much material gain, but for whom? I ask though how are they treated when they try to escape to Europe in part because of that political chaos. The same can be said about people migrating to US boarders. Yes, there's arguments to be made about controlling it. However convenient amnesia about the past is all the rage right now.

[@ryanoleary7447]

​@lyndoncmp5751 exactly. And with the introduction of the Atlantic slave trade, they also got to travel. Don't know why people always say they had it so rough.

[@michaelreed4744]

Hello. I remember that I watched a documentary that the Zulus took drugs before the battle. Do you agree with this theory?

[@bootnazz1786]

They took anger, skill,and weapons

[@Powerneck]

True They all had 3 bottles of Poppers ..

[@markruby3916]

Wait his miracle fighting formation was surrounding people?? So forward thinking

[@Thabiso-Ndlovu]

Umqundu Wakho

[@Tralala691]

Love England. It made everyone a producer.

[@Thabiso-Ndlovu]

Msunu ka nyoko

[@jontaedouglas7244]

Is they routed the British like this with dated weaponry, imagine if they would have discovered to make and use gun powder or such.

[@mtheriotx]

And then they lost.

[@tombassman]

They’d already been living next door to Europeans with guns for over 50 years, surely they could have learned about and obtained modern weapons in that time.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

The Zulus had more guns than the British. Older guns, but still guns.

[@jontaedouglas7244]

@@mtheriotx and Britain lost its empire, history is great isn’t it

[@jontaedouglas7244]

@@lyndoncmp5751 which is my point, imagine if they were on the same time schedule as European armies, colonization would’ve been a complete different story probably

[@guitarhick]

TOO MANY COMMERCIALS!!!! whom do i have to kill to learn something here DAMN OI!!!!!!

[@alneal100]

Pretty soon the videos will all be replaced by commercials. Their greed will lead to the collapse of KZbin.

[@tomtaylor6163]

Now the Zulus use the Bulls Horn Strategy to Loot Department Stores

[@shakazulu7808]

Yeah they have white zulus with them too

[@dirkbogarde44]

@@shakazulu7808 Not in S Africa they don't.

[@peterharren8909]

Umm... There's two kind of racism. One is being impervious to systemic inequality based on race. The second is Bigotry. Take a guess where you fall?

[@MrSimonw58]

You own an Incredible Connection .... your f'd

[@PunkSlapper123]

​@@shakazulu7808Where is this? I have never seen a white Zulu.

[@dwaynepeterson-pj3lz]

I was waiting for the words diamond,gold or some such similar to pop up. I do not believe that needs explaining.

[@LordDirus007]

Rome is the Greatest Empire ever known.

[@capoislamort100]

You’re crazy, they couldn’t even last a thousand years!

[@bootnazz1786]

No genghis Khan.

[@chequereturned]

What does that even actually mean? It wasn’t literally the biggest, and when it comes to science and engineering contributed far less than, eg, the British Industrial Revolution. Modern European empires and especially the British, and various Chinese empires, - and even the Mongols by size - have a better claim.

[@nicholashindle2084]

We learned to exploit from the Normans,Vikings and the Saxons.

[@Augh98-nt2zn]

Only a few minutes in and the pro zulu bias shows that this is not going to be even.

[@KangaKucha]

Wish they won instead as overall they did.

[@curtiszyr]

21:39 😂 this is insane they were concerned about being surrounded by the African savagery ? Then why come to Africa in the first place 😂 what happened to jolly ol England

[@williamharvey4732]

Only country worse than England ? France. When it comes to Africa.

[@georgel74]

Or Belgium..

[@grantguy8933]

Belgium

[@bentucker2301]

Definitely Belgium

[@davogrynne]

Why does this always come up…? It’s not a competition…

[@pritsie]

Belgium much?

[@clpen97]

Sands of time

[@kennethfordjr4214]

The U.S. is not an empire.

[@mrwood4557]

Yes it is

[@lyndoncmp5751]

It is, of sorts. Took/assimilated indigenous lands from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Still there. Plus keeps hold of overseas territory (Hawaii, Samoa etc).

[@chequereturned]

I mean, it had an empire. Much of what’s now the US was conquered territory by the original US, there are still territories with status quite comparable to colonies, but even by the usual standards they colonised the Philippines and briefly Haiti, several countries in Latin America, etc. Indirectly, there was also Liberia.

[@fbreyuibf3yry438]

To everyone whining about England being called the greatest empire: Cry more

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Or speak in Latin not in ENGLISH ✌️

[@MrSimonw58]

Ammo agricola astra spiro

[@navigator8222]

An empire toppled by colonial farmers lol

[@lyndoncmp5751]

@@navigator8222 The Empire wasn't toppled by colonial farmers. It was two world wars.

[@navigator8222]

that's incorrect. @@lyndoncmp5751

[@donaldzlotnik505]

The British defeat was based on a very stupid British Quartermaster! PERIOD!

[@lyndoncmp5751]

No it wasn't. It was largely down to Durnford for turning defense into attack, pressuring Pulleine to support him and choosing to defend too extended a position.

[@Lurgansahib]

Majorblue777. That is just laughable. The British Empire covered 25% of the planet at one time. Rome was truly a great empire and we owe that empire a lot for all sorts of reasons. America I admire greatly as well, America has given much to the world and will do so in future I have no doubt, but empire absolutely no! They just are not made that way and neither are their political or management systems that capable.

[@rector0455]

800+ military bases around the world. The capacity to project overwhelming force virtually anywhere across the globe. 'Allies' who are more accurately described as obedient vassals. It doesn't take a particularly deep understanding of American civics and history to understand that the Republic we started out as barely reflects the pseudo Empire we've become. Though I would agree that the Brits did Empire better.

[@jdocean1]

@@rector0455I wouldn’t call our allies vassals. We share many common values.

[@rector0455]

@@jdocean1 Please tell me that your position is not based off of 'muh freedom and democracy' like you're naively shilling in favor of the Iraq war circa 2003 or something... In reality, very few (if any) of our 'allies' share American foundational values like limited government and inalienable rights of divine origin, freedom of speech and the right to bear arms for example. Neither do many of them share the Republican form of government, or the (often disregarded) American desire for isolationism and nationalism. If anything, our closest ideological cousins in Europe would be the Swiss, and they aren't even allies. There is a shared heritage with the inherited anglosphere nations, over which American cultural hegemony is particularly dominant, but it's a very superficial take to try equate these parliamentary systems which seem to venerate the government with American values set forth by the founders.

[@iaind4852]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Lurgansahib]

@@rector0455 I agree, America at this time has managed / mismanaged to get itself into a whole load of internal strife. A lot of Governmental systems / customs and procedures need radical overhaul and adjustment. I. E. The practice of Supreme Court Justices being appointmented by the President is just absurd. In my country we have separation of Government and Judiciary at all times, our Prime Minister does sign of the warrant for top judges but has no part in choosing same.

[@chrisdfx1]

The invaders got what they deserved and more. It's unfortunate the Zulus couldn't invade Britain and do the same thing to every person on that island.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

The Zulus killed far more Zulus than the British ever did, and were not native to southern Africa. Bantu invaders from the north.

[@luvontsimbi]

​@@lyndoncmp5751Africa is one land mass not separated by any body of water, when u say Bantu are invaders where did South Africa begin before the colonial borders? Yts claim Bantus killed khoisans with no proof, look at the influence of the Khoisans on the Xhosa culture and language why would u speak a language of people u were killing in large numbers as the yts claim? When u say Zulus killed far more Zulus than the British u must provide the stats for those kind of claims.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

@@luvontsimbi ""Africa is one land mass not separated by any body of water" By that analogy then it was ok for the Romans, Napoleon, Nazis etc to invade the rest of Europe. No body of water, right? "when u say Bantu are invaders where did South Africa begin before the colonial borders?" Southern Africa definitely didn't begin where the Bantu originated from. "when u say Zulus killed far more Zulus than the British u must provide the stats for those kind of claims."" According to the Zulus own history, Shaka put to death around 7,000 fellow Zulus after his mother died, and a further circa 10,000 Zulus were killed in the civil war after the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879. Both are greater numbers than the amount of Zulus killed by the British in the Anglo-Zulu War.

[@luvontsimbi]

@@lyndoncmp5751 I don't care about the history of the Romans.or Nazis and their invasion those are European affairs so that analogy stands Africa did not have east, west , South and North our ancestors never had such. Khoisan and Bantu are Africans and they are more similar than they are different, Europeans don't fight over where one originated in Europe but we all know Europe is for Europeans why must it be a problem when we say Africa for Africans why must we be told of North, east , South and West? I am Xhosa and have very strong relations with Khoisan people they form part of my history some of my clan praises eve say "Thole lomthwakazi" meaning the young one of a Khoisan women so I don't get why u trying to separate Bantu and khoisans unless u are a Cape coloured then I get it those guys don't like Bantu people.

[@luvontsimbi]

@@lyndoncmp5751 if u say Bantu invaded Khoisan tell us more details about those invasions and who where the rulers leading those invasions? We on the other hand will tell u of all the relationships that were formed how they were formed and we can show u parts of our culture that is from Khoisan and we can even show u how our languages are mixed with their language

[@chrisblack5054]

British would've had it worst if the zulu also had rifles and canons....they were fighting men with spears

[@lyndoncmp5751]

1 in 5 Zulus were armed with a gun of some sort. Old and outdated guns but they could and did still kill. The Zulus had far more guns than the British did. At Rorkes Drift as an example, just over half of the British casualties were caused by Zulu gunfire. It's possible that was the ratio at Isandlwana as well. At least not much less.

[@chequereturned]

Well, yeah. But the Zulus did have guns. At Rorke’s Drift they even had more. They just weren’t very good at using them yet. But being outnumbered 7:1 uphill is still a little difficult. So is being outnumbered 20:1 uphill… but they won that one.

[@Mossyz.]

Today England now is ruled by a foreigner ...lol

[@chequereturned]

Nah, by a Brit, born and raised. Of Indian extraction, but from a democratically elected government. Because we are OK with that (even if Sunak specifically is useless). Not getting the lol.

[@Fush1234]

No doubt they are pleased with assistance toward being civilized

[@MrSimonw58]

They love BMWs

[@bootnazz1786]

Yes Brits showed them,land stealing,killing,then apartheid...

[@AfricanPrinse]

Why the zulus the only group of africans which history seem to be known in the western world though 😂🤔 I mean there's a rich history there

[@peterharren8909]

My guess. Arguably the most concentrated area of Sub-Saharan culture is on the east coast, the cluster that includes the modern country Nigeria and its neighbors. There are many cultures that exist there to this day. I've been to the region and they still matter, the "West" doesn't really notice nor truly care. The area interacted with Europeans much earlier and things like the slave trade drew people and deeper alliances over many more years. There was an uncomfortably more recent British led obliteration of 100s of thousands of a single tribe in the region over British interests. Without real overstatement, probability to the level the Nazis dreamed of doing to the Jews.

[@LadyCeCeFromThaDirty]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@peterharren8909your guess is disingenuous. Zulus only get attention and KZbin documentaries because their military history is well documented, and that’s because they were fighting and whooping the British so the west payed attention to them. We know the real reason why there’s not that much out there as far as materials and primary sources to research African history….along with all the people colonizers destroyed in those African holocausts you mentioned…they also destroyed books, letters, palaces, libraries, cultural sites, and entire communities. You say you’ve been to west Africa, right? So you know about the Benin wall for example? It was an ancient engineering feat created before the Great Wall of china and was destroyed by the British when they destroyed the city of Benin in Dahomey. Its history has seemingly been lost forever. I wonder what else we don’t even know about… Like the Nazis, colonizers led a war of annihilation against the places they decided they wanted to go to get away from cold ugly miserable Europe…keep believing the propaganda tho…

[@vigilantghanaian8864]

Look up the Asante kingdom. They fought the English for 100 years. O my reason you know about Zulu is because of the large English and Boers in SA

[@nkosinathicaluza7536]

Because the Zulu did something unbelievable, no other African army of that time was able to defeat the British

[@augustuswayne9676]

England the greatest empire ? I think 🤔 not . They couldn't even beat the Germans on their own . The greatest empire had to help them out, twice .

[@Dominknows]

🤡

[@paulcreed-r2n]

England has never fought Germany on their own, but then again you get taught a different (suits us) world history & have never lost any of your own battles & ran home licking your wounds!!........Off you go now & sort Putin out on your own, we will sit this one out as it is of your making, don't step in twice at the last minute though.

[@markhenry2174]

Simplistic view. Ignores the fact that empires fall not overnight but gradually. By WW1 the empire was already under pressure from both Germany and US expansionism policies and was unsustainable. Also let’s not mention the psychological impact from ww1 on the French and British in particular and their reticence against another Great War - an impact not felt in the US.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

America wouldn't even exist without England. Carry on conversing in English though, and living day to day by English laws and customs.

[@Dominknows]

@@lyndoncmp5751 look at the guys profile picture. He has American white trash written all over his face. Trying to elaborate fax to a person like this is quite useless.

[@klasv7174]

what a joke to call the British Empire the greatest empire the world has ever known lol, compared to Rome its nothing.

[@g.m.3285]

Jealous much? Crying over history, grow up, learn to read and educate yourself!

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Coz people all over the world converse in Latin, right?

[@chequereturned]

…? It covered a quarter of the world in a whole different period of history, vs. around the Med and a fraction of the rest of Europe. And started the second Agricultural and Industrial Revolution as well as major developments in the sciences and established a truly global language. To say it’s ’nothing’ isn’t overreach to you…? Literal how is this laughable in a way that is actually reasoned with half a brain? Personally I think it’s pointless to compare other qualities of such different parts of history, but at least there is the literal meaning ‘greatest’ that means ‘biggest’, which it isn’t.

[@NubiansNapata]

So true 😂😂 British went around conquering backwards tribes. I mean they conquer Papa new guinea. Mongols, Rome brought down the greatest civilizations of it's era

[@sabataskull9661]

​​​​@@chequereturned Now get to your house and bring to 🇺🇸 your cup of tea and your shinebox ! Mr Belvedere ova here .