ISE-NIN: A Jupiter-8 Replicant

[@furiobisotti8150]

Technically professional, artistically intriguing, then even hilarious with your magic words. You are a treasure down here in the net.

[@AlexBallMusic]

Thank you!

[@masonkiller1]

youre videos are always fun and inspirational to watch!

[@AlexBallMusic]

Thanks!

[@RegebroRepairs]

A fifth of the price, and I can't afford that either. 🙂 I pray to Uli every night to finish the Jupiter-8 clone! Very YMO outro, I like it.

[@undercoverneunzehn]

Praise the Uli :D

[@jason3898]

Uli Jon Roth?

[@undercoverneunzehn]

@@jason3898 Uli Behringer

[@MikkelGrumBovin]

@@jason3898 take a wild guess

[@AlexBallMusic]

Are they actually making one? I've lost track of the announcements, but haven't seen many come out.

[@compucorder64]

Outro was yet another reminder of just how lovely the Prophet is for bass. Such a musical sound.

[@oblitafier]

It's not the Prophet. The Prophet is merely acting as a midi controller for the ISE-NIN

[@compucorder64]

​@@oblitafierOh I see, I thought it was setup as a keyboard split. With the lower part of the keyboard playing the Prophet bass, and the upper playing the chords on the ISI-NIN. Just because the left hand and right hand patches sound quite different. But I forget that this can do splits, maybe because only few synths of this type can. Makes it really powerful, and the price doesn't seem quite so steep considering that.

[@AndyVonal]

Wonderful, as always, Alex! Thank you for this!

[@marcofioravanti4176]

Dear Alex Ball, good news: On start the Roland JP-8 will always perform the given split point as indicated by the arrow. But...: It can be temporarily shifted by holding the split key mode button down while playing any key, which then will become the new lowest note of the upper section. 😊

[@AlexBallMusic]

Thank you - you learn something new every day.

[@McN4styFilth]

Oh God what am I going to tell my physical therapist after that banger of an intro? My neck is still suffering from the last one.

[@AlexBallMusic]

😀

[@grogboggoth]

Is it just me or is the ISE-NIN just a bit gnarlier in the A/B comparison, a tiny bit of (filter?) overdrive? Also possibly a bit more top end in there but not a whole heap. Really nice, though, and the price is the only thing that would hold me back. You wouldn't notice the differences in an actual mix in a million years. The usual high quality presentation and musicality from Mr Ball, of course.

[@AlexBallMusic]

Yep, noticed the same. Little bit more grit. They went into channels 1,2,3 and 4 on my Big Six with no processing, so that was the sound.

[@johnwilmer2551]

Jupiter crushes

[@ianwynne764]

Hello Alex: I really like the little incantations for conjuring up the Rolands. The were most imaginative. Look after yourself.

[@AllureMusicLab]

I have a different opinion - this video doesn't overwhelm me either in comparison to the JP8 and also the MKS 80. But I will order it and compare it with my two MKS 80 REV4/5. Thanks for the video Alex!

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Sounds good but I'm happy with my Boutique JP-08 for now.

[@Franz_Kreimer_Keys]

What’s about the Postamente/glide? Is it working like the Jupiter 8?

[@metaman1831]

Awesome tones! You should do a video on the Deckards dream.

[@ingolf7411]

Isn't the Jupiter 8 overrated? I know there are a lot of artists praising the Jupiter 8 but I think the smaller Jupiter 4 is sonically the better choice (although it is expensive too). In 1979 I was lucky to play the "new released" Jupiter 4 in a music shop in Flensburg and it just blew me away. Those days the Jupiter 4 was still an expensive instrument (I guess more than 4k "Deutsche Mark"). But I always remember this 4 voice gem.

[@Rsonixtunes]

Have you played either? Lol

[@LFOVCF]

Did I get here before anyone says, the original is warmer? Basically near as makes no difference. Great demos as per.

[@AlexBallMusic]

We've had about two, I was expecting more. 😀

[@treyquattro]

I said the magic words: no Jupiter 8! I must not have got it exactly right...

[@enricocirene]

give a film/tv/vg composer his own yt channel and he'll make the best transition jingles one can find

[@gcoudert]

It sounds truly amazing but, at £4.7k, I think I'll stick to my Jupiter-X!

[@ZZKJ396]

I thought the ISE-NIN sounded a bit muffled IMHO

[@AlexBallMusic]

Funny, the very next comment says it sounds too bright. :) I guess we all hear things differently.

[@frankjamesbonarrigo7162]

sounds identical, does it have a unison mode?, Christ its 5k? Nevermind.

[@JayKaufman]

Shadow Child to the rescue again on the Jupiter-8? I will say the ISE-NIN sounds a tad more dull. The Jupiter-8 has a bit more sheen on the top end. That's nothing you couldn't fix with a bit of EQ and for the price of full MIDI integration, vs. the non-existent MIDI (unless through a retrofit) and the cost of a Jupiter-8, it's kind of a no-brainer if you're going after that sound. I had a Jupiter-8 in my studio for nearly two years and can't say I miss it a lot. I much rather prefer the Jupiter-6.

[@AlexBallMusic]

This is another Jupiter-8. I know about 5 owners in the UK and can usually grab one from somewhere. 🙂 Once it's in the studio for a long time it becomes more normal I guess. The 6 is a great machine in a different way.

[@brianp7022]

Fair play for the engineering that went into this…I can’t help feeling though that Roland must be sick of the sound of ‘Jupiter 8’ - they don’t seem destined to ever better it…like a lot of rock bands with that 2nd album …not everyone’s interested in your new stuff 😂

[@Rolanoid]

By Wakeman's cape and Vangelis' beard didn't work for me. Guess I'm stuck with my Arturia emulation.

[@howdareyou9531]

[@TommyLoaded]

This guy deserves a TV show. Somebody get this guy a TV show. On the TV.

[@AlexBallMusic]

Done a lot of music for TV, but never appeared in anything. Prefer it that way. 🙂

[@clauscombat418]

What's "TV"? 🤔

[@fjfrancois]

Probably the BBC

[@79Glitch]

Having a tv show would be a big step down, both in terms of money and exposure (unless it’s just a re-broadcast of his KZbin show and, therefore, just an easy way to make a little more money?). The worst thing almost any content creator could do is … bring in a traditional tv production operation to split up the money a million ways, and then overlay a bunch of stilted, cheesy, inauthentic structural changes to sterilize the content. And then … said creator will be contractually unable to do the same show for themselves on KZbin after the tv show is inevitably is cancelled … because no one watches tv except people over 60? And, for that matter, a couple hundred thousand people watching a show on traditional cable tv is actually considered successful in 2023? And it’s only going downhill rapidly from here? If you’re reading any of this Alex (or any of your music KZbin content brethren) … please don’t EVER do that! … unless HBO came to give you a bag and says, “here’s a bunch of money. Do whatever you want, we’ll throw it up on Max!” That would be cool (and maybe not too unrealistic? Synth and music tech are more popular than ever. Alex Ball is one of a handful of the biggest names in this space, and also one of the most entertaining).

[@PeranMe]

Imagine the stuff he could do! I mean, considering what he pulls off with these old synths - what couldn’t he do if he could afford NEW machines?!?

[@thedoc1210]

I just realised how much I love the original Jupiter 8 synth's aesthetics. like a vintage strat or les paul it looks amazing. a mothership. The wee box does sound smashing though.

[@AlexBallMusic]

It's absolutely gorgeous.

[@thedoc1210]

@@AlexBallMusic with mahogany sides, ooft suit you sir

[@vgaportauthority9932]

The colour orange deserved more time in the sun.

[@mortimermouse]

Your demos are unbelievable. There are great musicians reviewing gear but you are by far the most creative in the synth space, also you possess the rare talent of evoking “that vintage timelessness” that only electronic music can provide.

[@AlexBallMusic]

Thank you Victor.

[@jimle22]

I am so inspired since finding your channel. I am an old musician who got into syths in early 2000's. What I like about you is you are a teal musician. Rather than just making noise with the machines, you actually play really good music (to my ear anyways). Thank you for what you do and ROCK ON BRO!

[@rachelar]

Yeah there are a lot of non musicians and Collectors be buying up the Jupiter's and Prophets

[@localhost4460]

I'd say it's a bit "sharper" than the original, but I think you might find the same level of variation between two Jupiter-8s ultimately. Great video!

[@AlexBallMusic]

Yep, maybe a touch more grit. Very similar overall.

[@PWMaarten]

This is something a lot of people don’t understand when comparing vintage vs clone. I had, at one point, five 808’s for repairs and modifications. They all sounded different, sometimes not even subtle.

[@localhost4460]

@@PWMaarten You really have to build/repair a few things to comprehend how much variance there is in everything that happens in an analog synth. Every has like 5-20% differences from stated values, different makes of everything. Much of the revered, old synths are comprised not of highly selected, individually calibrated components but rather from "what they had on hand."

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@localhost4460 which as I'm sure you well know, is also the case for vintage electric guitars! Fewer components of course, but still all sorts of varying qualities of capacitors, resistors, etc. The ones which sounded rubbish didn't live on, so all the examples are the ones which just happened to sound good!

[@Jason75913]

The "sharpness" is called "clarity", buddy. The Ise-nin is a little clearer. Same as any modern recreation of whatever old synth.

[@Nick-Iles]

A tutorial on your summoning process would be much appreciated.

[@AlexBallMusic]

1) Build up a network of very generous people with incredible synth collections. 2) Borrow their synth. 3) Do a really crap camera trick.

[@ChrisSmout]

Lies, he's a real Synth Wizard

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@AlexBallMusic honestly, the camera trick was cute; but the way you nonchalantly and cheerfully said "I'm always amazed that that works!" sold it for me :D

[@RB-bd5tz]

Tutorial? It's right there at 8:10. I'm running out of room for all my Jupiter 8s ...

[@geekmastermind]

That little charm is going to save me a LOT of money in gear! 🤣

[@AlexBallMusic]

The secret of my channel.

[@swanofnutella4734]

Crazy that a desktop unit that's nearly 4 grand can save money. As much as I want one too, if I had the money for one, I'd get the Nina instead. Don't get me wrong. I want both. But just sayin'.

[@gurpaful]

I could already tell it was edgier than the original even before you compared them, but it's a beautiful tribute and I love that it exists. It's also "close enough" and the modern edge might actually be called for.

[@CoolColJ]

I dunno, my JP8a early 12 bit model sounded pretty bright and edgey, much more than than the softsynth emulations from Tal, Arturia and Roland

[@alphacodesynth]

Interesting it does not really sound like a Jup8 , Arturia plugin is actually far closer to it , hmm.

[@Rsonixtunes]

Exactly. Does not sound like a JP8

[@TheWarriorSongProject]

What does Black say about pronunciation? "EE-See Neen" or "Ice-Nine?"

[@DaveG207]

I have a problem. After a video a few months ago, I was so taken with the synth you demoed I said I’d give my left leg for it. Within weeks you were back again, and I said I’d give my eyeteeth to own the synth shown that time. No time later, I found myself saying I’d sell a kidney to own the next synth you walked us through. I am currently hospitalised, missing limbs, vital organs and teeth….and assessing whether I can sell the other kidney as this sounds great! Kudos sir. (Which is hard to say without teeth) 😬

[@AlexBallMusic]

You'll be a brain in a jar with a lot of synths.

[@marctorres7182]

@@AlexBallMusic If that brain has a midi interface it's all good

[@Pianet]

@@AlexBallMusic The flesh is weak 1011101010101

[@Sgyozo]

You're doing it completely wrong! You can sell many vital organs to buy synths, but make sure to sell someone else's! :D

[@makipri]

@@marctorres7182 So CV/gate isn’t enough?

[@Mouxbar]

By Alex's beard, And Gert's stamina, I'll take any synth, And make a club banger. Amazing how that never works by the way 🤣

[@AlexBallMusic]

😂

[@DavidLee07]

It would be cool if the price reflected the size difference from the original, but you can't have everything... It sounded pretty nice!

[@AlexBallMusic]

Given the prices of original Jupiters, it's probably to scale.

[@universalvibe72]

@@AlexBallMusic😂😂😂😂

[@glenesis]

​@@AlexBallMusic Too true

[@TJ-hs1qm]

here's some capitalism for you

[@MFitz12]

Adjusted for inflation the original sold new for something like 15,000 American freedom monies IIRC so yes, they have adjusted for the size.

[@TheWarriorSongProject]

like if you got to the 3:50 mark and took out your Mentos....

[@ClemensWennersMusic]

What a fantastic unit! And you made it sound amazing as usual!

[@AlexBallMusic]

Thank you sir. 🙂

[@Vim-Wolf]

I tried your magic spell but all I got was a JP-08, what am I doing wrong?

[@snowleopard9749]

I'm glad this exists, but it's still a bit to pricey for me. Great video BTW. Oh and can you teach me that synth summoning magic? I tried the words but it didn't work.

[@AlexBallMusic]

Just say the magic words.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Sadly the price is all about the size of the small brand, and everything is alot more expensive to produce a physical product.

[@Synthvoice1]

HI Alex the Splitpoint can be change on an original Jupiter8. Hold Split and press a Key. Thats the new Splitpoinit. Greets, Michael

[@AlexBallMusic]

Yep, a couple of others have educated me on that one. Must have missed that somehow. Thanks for the info.

[@Synthvoice1]

@@AlexBallMusic Oh Sorry didn't see that :-)

[@marcbrasse747]

Hi Alex. That comparison with the Super Jupiter is a perfect example how people often overrate the “but it doesn’t sound exactly like the original” argument. Listened to in perfect isolation the sounds seemed rather different but used in a fuller arrangement / context the differences seem to almost magically disappear. Therefore my opinion has always been: Original or emulation, if the possibilities of the instrument fit to your style the last tiny differences mean very little. Just get on with it! Which also makes mince meat of the old analog versus digital discussion. And let nobody argue that I have probably never been near an original. 😁

[@AlexBallMusic]

For sure, it should be judged in its own right and any difference will always be judged as "wrong" because it's different. I did the comparison because it was the number one request I had when I announced I would be doing this video. People were intrigued, so I hopefully gave the answer for what it was worth.

[@zmix]

Having used the “Deckard’s Dream” (Black Corporations CS-80 clone) I would be very reluctant to spend any money on their products without thorough testing. The original Deckard’s Dream had software generated envelopes and LFOs with audible stepping - it’s just criminal to go to all that effort and end up with such a mediocre product. A friend of mine bought the Deckard’s Dream DIY kit from Black Corporation - intending to assemble it as a family project with her husband. She said the kit came as a set of unpopulated circuit boards and a bag of SMD parts.

[@kanz8052]

I'm always down for Jupiter 8 inspired hardware at non Jupiter 8 inspired prices.

[@d0nn13m0n0]

Black corporation always crushes it. Imagine trying to find, let alone buy a CS-80 or a Jupiter 8.

[@MrPandoman]

Finding them is easy. There are currently 13 Jupiter-8 and one CS-80 on Reverb. Problem is, each one cost as much as a new car.

[@AlexBallMusic]

Just say the magic words and they appear.

[@d0nn13m0n0]

@@MrPandoman I’m obviously headed over to reverb to window shop

[@d0nn13m0n0]

$69,300 USD for the CS 80. I’m going to need those magic words

[@XavierRadix]

See Roland? This is how you reissue a Jupiter. Not that your own reissues are bad, they're just.... nothing like a Jupiter! That's all. And for a unit that costs about 10k less than an original, the price isn't really that bad either!

[@vaiman7777]

There's a guy on YT who A/B's a Jupiter X with his OG J8. Even he said it very close, pads almost identical. Others very close. Do you own an original Jupiter?

[@XavierRadix]

@@vaiman7777 ...Not really what I was trying to say with my comment. But to answer your question, I definitely do not own a real Jupiter. I was only fortunate to play one for one day, but that's it. But again, not the intent of my comment 😉.

[@vaiman7777]

@@XavierRadix Ah ok, my mistake sorry.

[@XavierRadix]

@@vaiman7777 No problem, maybe I could've worded it differently. What I was basically trying to say is that, I don't want my Jupiter to play a sampled acoustic piano... I think if they just stuck with the pure synth, which the Jupiter X does extremely well like you pointed out, it would've been a lot more attractive. Put all of that lovely DSP power into capturing that Jupiter magic and not waste it on some useless pan flute preset, if you catch my drift here. Roland have of course always made some questionable choices through the years with their product, but I still love 'm. I just hope that they would listen more closely to what the people really want, that's all.

[@24framemedia]

I just wish Roland would make an analog synth again instead of VA's, nothing wrong with VA's and I've heard they are getting better all the time but it's still not the same feel even if in a mix you might not be able to tell, Roland make some analog synths again! 😂

[@kierenmoore3236]

Roland ACB gets closer … ?! 🤔

[@xpb1363]

Also, and to add up to your fabulous pronunciation skills displayed at the beginning, I will add that in french it's pronounced "Rolland Jupitaire Huître", and half of the letters are silent as an hommage John Cage's 4'33 (quatre trente-trois), who's aunt was originally from Poitiers. Also FYI Jupitaire was the 13th month of the French Revolution new calendar

[@arakaneuman]

Sounds good but at that price you would expect more and much bigger. I rather buy synths like Roland Jupiter x, Prophet 10, Grooves 3rd wave and oberheim OBX8 than this.

[@robertsyrett1992]

So smol! Black corp are absolute magicians for fitting a whole Jupiter 8 into a biscuit tin.

[@AlexBallMusic]

Shame there were no biscuits inside.

[@GNeuman]

@@AlexBallMusic I'm sure there's some custard creams in there

[@AlexBallMusic]

​@@GNeuman Not so much as a digestive.

[@_EightySix]

Kinda like how they fitted a computer from a bedroom into your pocket.

[@Shred_The_Weapon]

You can’t deny this bugger can cook.

[@mirkocaserta]

Came for the GAS, stayed for the spectacular music.

[@aptudo]

The musical interludes are the number one reason I watch your channel, Alex.👨‍🍳🤌

[@AlexBallMusic]

Cheers Rob!

[@entropybentwhistle]

Been waiting for a decent head to head on the Ese-Nin to J-8, especially from someone who knows from Roland gear, like one Mr. Alex Ball. Roland has utterly eschewed the retro gear market, unlike Korg, and it’s certainly cost them in gear purchases on my part; one D-50 Boutique vs. an Arp Odyssey FS, MS-20 FS, Arp 2600M, and a MiniKorg 700 FS. I have given up hope they would have a moment of nostalgia and was definitely keen on knowing if the Black Corporation gizmo would satisfy the niche of a genuine Jupiter-8, and based on this vid, it seems it does. So, many thanks, Alex. I think I can put an order in now without buyer’s remorse afterwards.

[@AlexBallMusic]

To be fair to Roland, when I demoed the Jupiter-X and Juno-X against the originals, they sounded very, very good. They've dabbled with analogue, but their digital technology seems to work for them, so they push that. I respect their angle. But for an analogue replicant, the Ise-Nin is the one, really. No doubt others will follow suit.

[@siljamickeify]

Love the Louis Cole vibe with the fifths!! Fabolous as always! ❤

[@AlexBallMusic]

😉

[@timschulz9563]

I wondered if he knew Louis Cole. Then I remembered: "Genre: House".

[@Digiphex]

Finally someone has brought the TAL J-8 to life!

[@AlexBallMusic]

😂

[@DonnDeVoreMusic]

not sure what i'm doing wrong but that Jupiter magic word spell is not working for me.

[@Rsonixtunes]

Agreed

[@kaekae4010]

Beautiful Alex, I'm not a musician and I don't know how to play lolz but I enjoy your videos and your music.

[@greatheightsu]

I like the way you say Rolando Hoopiter Aucht.

[@Polarstern89]

5000 $ for desktop version clone of Jupiter 8 ? 😂

[@MIDERA]

Hey - I tried summoning a Jupiter 8 in my studio like you did and it didn't work. Do you think it's because I'm in my basement and the wifis aren't strong enough?

[@PerChristianFrankplads]

I used the magic words, but only an Arturia JUP-8 V appeared in my studio. What am I doing wrong?

[@peterkarczewski8200]

black corporation have copied a few classics now. Wonder why they don't get the bad press that behringer gets for doing the same thing

[@AlexBallMusic]

The criticism of Behringer relates to things like registering the name of a journalist who gave unfavourable reviews in order to make childish, fake products in his name. Or trying to sue Sequential when an employee was critical on a forum. Or mocking Roland whilst simultaneously relying entirely upon their back catalogue for legendary products to clone. Or registering the Oberheim name and then proceeding to list Oberheim's achievements on their website under the heading "we at Oberheim". Thankfully, they reversed this one. Or letting companies do the R&D and then copying the results - Mackie mixers, Boss pedals, Arturia KeyStep, Make Noise Maths. If they want to bring back discontinued vintage synths like Black Corporation - great. To Behringers credit, they responded to criticism about not following through on charity promises by exceeding them and have posted about where that work is being done, so that should absolutely be noted. I think a lot of people deliberately misunderstand the criticism of Behringer and say things like "the snobs just hate poor people" because it's an easier thing to believe than the reality of it.

[@B_T_B]

When are you going to release all the demos you make Alex? 😁

[@morphoice]

BC nailed it. Amazingly fine reproduction of the J8. Subtle differences but just as charming as the original.

[@Rsonixtunes]

Have u owned a Jp8

[@100DollarHeadache]

The ISE-NIN vs MKS-80 comparison was interesting. MKS-80 was more liquid and plastic sounding, versus the ISE-NIN capturing the Jupiter-8 metallic sparkle. A little harder edged sounding due to the ISE-NIN using SSI oscillator chips (triangle core) versus the original Jupiter-8 discrete oscillators (sawtooth core) - the oscillator chips in both revs of the MKS-80 are also triangle core. Overall, I'm liking the ISE-NIN more and more each time I hear it. I would still rather keep my Jupiter-8, but if I was forced to sell it, I would be more than happy with the ISE-NIN.

[@DoctorNemmo]

Ah, a new Ball video. Better watch. They are always good. Edit: Alex when he considers that both synths sound similar: [ :-{

[@AlexBallMusic]

Cheers.

[@rodmorrison47]

I thought there was a law that whenever you've got anything that remotely resembles a Jupiter-8 you are legally bound to play Save a Prayer. You'll have the feds on you!

[@AlexBallMusic]

😂

[@bobrogue]

Great work, thanks Alex!

[@iskandertime747]

Nice! I've been trying the magic spells for a few hours now, and all I've got is a Bananarama cassette with no cover, a hedgehog wearing an eye patch, and a bag of expired Waffle mix. Oh well, I'll keep trying!

[@AlexBallMusic]

Keep trying!

[@seanchristophersynthesizer6999]

The ISE-NIN sounds good, but the Jupiter 8 just sounds more grand and organic to my ears,

[@Psychlist1972]

So it's not pronounced "Ice Nine" like from Vonnegut (or maybe Satch)?

[@MadelnMachines]

I wish black corp werent't so overpriced. They're about £1500 - £2000 more than the competition. Sounds good though.

[@victorjmusic]

Real Roland JP-8 sounds better!

[@Rsonixtunes]

Indeed

[@fellpower]

Yeah, a real Jup costs abot 40k - this one 5k....too expensive....both

[@MacGyverGear]

Should've connected the JP8 on its balanced XLR's, that eliminates the whinning noise @8:40 (mostly produced by the Z80) on my JP8 🙂 I'm especially in love with the 12db filter with the resonance raised.. filters sweeps singing so silky and gently.. absolutely magic!! No n of the VST emulations on the market till now come close.. even an analoge like OBX sounds different. The Deepmind12 also has an 12db filter.. nice but not even close. I was curious for this one.. interesting.. sounds quite similar but not exactly.. need to check this out somewhere in the future.. perfect size for the overcrowded studio.. 😬 Thanks for the comparison!! 🤩

[@jupitermarx]

Hey there! I have a quick question for you. Do you think this particular pair would work well with my Roland SYS-8? I'm planning on using it as the master keyboard, and I'm wondering if I'll be able to have more hands-on control over the synth by utilizing the parameters of the system-8. I'm also considering pairing it with either the Prophet 10 or the OB-X8. What do you think?

[@Jauly]

I have an JP8 and a Roland System 500. The Ise Nin got this precise modern vintage vibe and sounds very much like a polyphonic System 500.

[@jupitermarx]

Alan you could sell the worse peace of kit and people like me would go out and get it!! With Great Power Comes Great Reaponsiblity!!😎😁😂 Pure Genius. I envy you bad!!☝️🏻✌️🏻

[@808music3]

Since the beginning of DAW, music production has become more and more easier to create. Hardware on the other hand, plays slightly less than it did back in the early days. I could be wrong 😑

[@PabloInformation]

Alex Fantastic & entertaining demo as usual Good SIr! Curious which REV MKS80 did you use in this comparison?

[@BlaBla-pf8mf]

It's all fine and dandy until your synth gets shot by a blade runner

[@derekbrown7303]

It's only £4,600..😮 I think I will wait another 20 years for the Behringer Jupiter 8 to come out.

[@spyrock247]

9:20 the Jupiter 8 has way more bass, clone sounds weak in the low end

[@Hallkardia]

I find it weird that with today's MUCH cheaper electronic parts a 4k synth has to look like it was made by Behringer. That power switch looks so low quality (which doesn't mean it is, I obviously don't know). Still cool that they really pulled this off as amazing as they did!

[@sesa2984]

Cool, but after a certain number of thousand dollars the difference in unobtainability becomes negligeable.

[@SwanAudio]

Usually the modern versions have a brighter high end and cleaner sound due to components, and it seems that way here. I would say the pad sound at 8.56 shows the Jupiter 8 being more lovely but I think it has a bit more detuning and resonance, so its possible that the NIN can be closer...love the jams - especially the last one! Great video and good job to Black Corporation - its a cracking synth for a fraction of what a J8 costs on the used market in a usable package...

[@SpacehotelMusic]

I hear a slightly harsh resonance on the NIN vs the original, on a number of sounds.. the top end 'fizz' as someone mentioned, but I don't like the sound of that resonance (the OB-6 sounds better up top than the NIN from what I can hear). JP-8 sounds great of course.

[@stephenhaynes603]

i just tried those magic words but the jupiter didnt show up ...................... strange . still my roland fantom 06 was there instead . 😛

[@mrdali67]

Sounds absolutely amazing .. but 5.5K Euro .. ouch. propably still a lot cheaper than the real thing 😁

[@andyanderson398]

Great video well done, but NOTHING can touch that Vintage JP8...

[@frankweber356]

It´s a very good sounding synth but no Jupiter 8 clone. The basic soundcharachter is way too harsh and metallic. Jupiter 8 is more soft and round.

[@shane864]

I'm not sure who the market is for this given the cost. The System 8 sounds very noticeably closer to the real thing, it's a dead on match for my JP8a 95% of the time. If I was going for a road Jupiter I'd take that or the Roland cloud version, and if I wanted to pick up a hardware synth in the 4x range when the P5, OBX8, 3rd Wave are out there... this seems a pretty tough sell

[@rydeentokio]

The Pronunciation of the name is like 'ea - say - nin'. Possibly derives from 為政人 (Perhaps they meant to be 為政者 or iseisha), which means a governor.

[@SamiJumppanen]

Demo Whimsy: haha, cool chords... Vocal ahhs: what the heck!? LOL! Synth demo 5 million!

[@rustybrooks]

Is it really not... ice-nine? Like from Kurt Vonnegut's "Cat's Cradle?"

[@Hubson55]

Been casting the magic words for 3 hours already and no Jupiter appeared... :(

[@Redbuzzcut]

Thank you for the great demo! By chance does this arpeggiator have a "random" option, like the Jupiter 4?

[@lars1588]

Two different levels of unaffordable lol. Very cool that a Jupiter 8 was repackaged so small nonetheless.

[@RoyChartier]

Does it pass the Voight-Kampff Test?

[@AlexBallMusic]

Interlinked. Interlinked. Cells. Cells.