Behringer Deepmind 12 vs Roland Jupiter 8

Sound Design Tutorial for JP-8 classic patches on the Deepmind 12. First you hear a classic brass patch and after that a typical JP-8 string sound. I show you 5 tricks to recreate classic vintage sounds on the Deepmind 12. Enjoy the video and feel free to subscribe my channel, if you like it. Thanks for watchiing!

[@darrenweight5972]

I love my Deepmind 12. No the oscillators aren’t as “strong” as a Jupiter but they do sound great. I think in a blind a/b comparison, many would struggle to pick the right one with many sounds - and if you didn’t have the Jupiter there to compare it to it would sound great on it’s own. If I was going to be stranded on a desert island and had to pick one of them it would be the Deepmind 12. It’s more versatile and will do things that many other synths just can’t do. It’s mod matrix and onboard effects really make it a pleasure to design patches on.

[@nadersharif]

Fantastic demo. DM12 is a great synthesizer and it's totally underrated just watch how close it can be to the JP8. People are just getting crazy about owning a JP8 thinking that they can produce great tunes, those great tunes were created by talented artists and their skills.

[@vintagesynths]

Thank you so much!

[@eleven9286]

Aint that last bit the cold hard truth?

[@SynthFelix]

Thank you for this video, you made me purchase my Deepmind 12 one year ago. It is powerful and I can learn a lot out of it. Love it! Thanks for making your Videos.

[@ronnieaux5290]

I understand everyone's love for the Jupiter and Juno (my personal favorite), they are classics for a reason - fantastic synths. But I have to say, the DM12 is just a very special synth and has a very good sound to it. It's easy to dismiss the DM12 as just some 'cheaper imitation', but it's really its own sound that is extremely lush and beautiful. It is worth auditioning. You may actually fall in love with it.

[@jakeelliott6855]

but for 9 k less the deepmind sounds bloody great

[@Dougie-]

Now do the opposite.. Run through the DM12 patches and make the JP8 sound like them... Not that easy is it ;-). Every synth have their strengths and weaknesses. New synths are always matched up against old (great) synths and people are always like "naaaah, not quite there", but the truth is that the new synths (usually) can do patches that old synths never would be able to.

[@TallicaMan1986]

John Smith A bugatti is a gas guzzler. If people could have a bugatti with a prius fuel efficiency they would. He also has a point. It cant do jupiter sounds as well as a jupiter, but thats not why it was made.

[@CalebBritton]

Thank you for saying this. I find the more otherworldly patches of the DM12 impossible to recreate on other popular synths. The DM12 is worth owning and getting to know as you won't see a lot of videos covering the true depth of this synth.

[@Dougie-]

I don't want to recreate JP8 patches on my DM either. I make patches I want to use in my music. That wasn't the point.

[@TallicaMan1986]

John Smith My point is your an idiot for making that kind of analogy.

[@SPAZZOID100]

John Smith speak for yourself.

[@elekktrikk_home_video]

Hey! Your video is one of the very few that show the real potential of the deep mind. Most others are just mushed up by the internal effects. Thanks a lot!

[@vintagesynths]

Elekktrikk thank you

[@aandarcom]

My favorite trick to make a poly synth have huge bass: Negative keytrack volume by about 10%.

[@drinkinslim]

What is "negative keytrack volume"?

[@aandarcom]

Open the matrix. Source = Note Number. Destination = try VCA All, or VCA Active, or VCA Envelope Depth. Amount = less than 0. :) Probably "VCA Envelope Depth" will work best. This trick works better than just a simple EQ boost to low frequencies of all notes, because it gives a boost to the whole frequency range of the low notes. Some of the old analog synths have "fatter low end", simply because the frequency compensation on them is different, or even in some cases non existent. Higher frequencies on an analog oscillator are naturally quieter, most synths compensate for that effect.

[@SleutelbosMusic]

It means that the key you presses moderates the voume. Positive means 'the higher the key, the higher the volume', negative means 'the higher the key, the lower the volume'.

[@graxjpg]

Cool trick, I’ll keep it in mind.

[@RubiconRecordings]

@@aandarcom I have been playing synths for nearly 40 years, and there is always something new to learn. Great tip. Thank you.

[@scottcupp8129]

I got my DM12 for $599.00 yesterday. Of course my friend owns a music store and there really aren't that many synth players in the area so just to get it out of the store, he gave me that killer price. It's a bloody AMAZING synthesizer. Love it!!!

[@rafeek6730]

Scott Cupp where is that?

[@scottcupp8129]

@@rafeek6730 Hobbs New Mexico United States

[@stevejobs7989]

I'm jealous :(

[@gregorynelson2327]

@@scottcupp8129 I got one from there dm-12 D with mfg case and a nice stand and ears for $700.00

[@earthisarealm5393]

Deepmind = affordable and sounds great! Jupiter 8 = NOT AFFORDABLE, Hard to find and sounds amazing! I am going with the Deepmind.

[@electriceyeslide5959]

The Jupiter 8 is getting to a point where people don’t even want to play them for fear of them breaking. The price for them is truly because they’re collectible and collectors will pay big money for them. I honestly think that the Jupiter 8 was used in so many ‘80s hit songs that is the real reason everyone wants them. Same with the Prophet 5 Rev.3 and Oberheim OB-Xa.

[@oholm09]

Jupiter 8 cost more than thousands of dollars like a new vehicle

[@LaytonMechaley]

@@oholm09 brooo i know, it’s like 25k for one on reverb

[@oholm09]

@@LaytonMechaley they got new Jupiter X

[@78fenderPbass]

Mine is being delivered Friday! Can't wait. I have a JX3P and controller but with the presets, and available memory, wifi, effects, etc. this will be a beast.

[@presleyandbandit9582]

Wow great sounds thank you for doing this!

[@78fenderPbass]

Great sounds from both machines! Very interesting exercise to get the DM12 to sound so close to the famous Jupiter. The DM12 can do so many other things with the effects and mod matrix.

[@adam872]

The Deepmind is an amazing deal really. It sounds great and it's pretty reasonably priced. I don't care which manufacturer's badge is on the box to a large degree, I care about sound. I would buy one if I were in the market for a hardware synth.

[@MusicZeroOne]

Brilliant comparison thanks. I do feel if the DM had any other logo on it, it would be hailed a legend. People sadly can’t look past it. I love mine. That J8 is a thing of beauty though!

[@loweni7460]

Exactly the synth snobs are some of the most biased groups you'll ever come across

[@iqi616]

Videos like this are transforming my opinion of the DM. Too many of the other videos are just people playing demo patches or commercial patches and I have no need for other people's patches; if I wanted to spend my life scrolling through patches I'd buy a keyboard workstation! Even on the DX series synths I create my own patches and avoid the presets. I'm seriously considering selling my uninspiring Boutique JP-08 now. I don't mind the tiny faders, it's just that everything has the same sound to it regardless of the patch. It's like it's running through a "Jupiter" filter.

[@smallbrainrecords5736]

iqi616 oh me too! I HATED it originally, now I’m ordering one lol

[@jmcbeady8210]

Great job! You really showed that the Deepmind has a nice toolset and nice sounds.

[@vintagesynths]

J Mcbeady thank you

[@DoperThanCerealBlog]

Just bought one because of this video, cheers!

[@vintagesynths]

DoperThanCereal thanks, I didn't want to make advertising for Behringer, but I am happy for that. Have fun with it!,

[@sonic_trek]

Very nice, thanks for sharing!

[@producedbymirakle]

People have a tendency to overappeciate what’s already gone or out of reach and to unappreciate what’s right in front of us. Guys, the Deepmind is a more then AMAZING synthesizer! I have the Deepmind 6 and it ROCKS! I even create beats with it. In my last beat you can hear how amazing it sounds! If that 80’s Juno/Jupiter sound is what you’re after, you can ABSOLUTELY create that with the Deepmind!!

[@funkmachine6420]

Thanks for the tip, I was looking at the jx3p but have run out of room for keyboards

[@spurv]

Yeah but ... the Deepmind is fugly.

[@powermix24]

You can buy 2 Deepmind 12's and chain them for 24 voices :) and still, be 13 thousand dollars cheaper lol. Great video

[@deauvillevrienden]

I have four of them and my DM48 sounds amazing :-))

[@hotfirecaster]

Very usefull video!!! Thanks for sharing!

[@davidlloyd9598]

I got rid of a Deepmind 12. I'm currently waiting for delivery of a new Deepmind 12! I miss it that much.

[@jeremymurray-wakefield8011]

Nice video but you have completely skewed people's first impressions by playing the bass part ONE OCTAVE LOWER on the Jupiter 8 at the beginning, leading to all those "more bottom end on the Jupiter" comments below.

[@100DollarHeadache]

This is why 49 keys sucks. That said, he wasn't actually going outside a four-octave range, so he should have transposed DeepMind down.

[@ajotech]

Great demo and playing.

[@INHALTVIDEO]

Very nice sounds!

[@superikone]

Thanx - great vid. I like the way you compare the sound. I think, if one uses these pads in the mix (might use some reverb and eq with it) - no one will ever hear if it´s a Jup8, Ju60/106 or a Dm12. In my ears the Dm12 sounds amazingly similar to those good old Roland instruments.

[@ludotex]

I dont care if it sounds like a jp8. That was a great demo of the DM12!

[@REKHAIYERNFE]

Awesome watching this!!! Vielen Dank for posting this great video 💟☺💟

[@Soundartprojekt]

Hi very great DEmo with many great Sounds

[@vintagesynths]

SoundArtProjekt thanks a lot

[@MusicZtorm]

Thanks for the tips ! :)

[@Funbia]

Let's be fair Deepmind 12 sound amazing. Just put randomly some point of the video, listen to just one sound and try to guess the synth.

[@SPAZZOID100]

John Smith your point???

[@bengalinsky4300]

that the DM sounds nice? i think his point was pretty clear

[@kristofaxelson5088]

Excellent programming! I was surprised to find that the DM12 can hold its own against classic synths.

[@vintagesynths]

Kristof Axelson thank you

[@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy]

Awesome. DM12 definitely sounds great. But man, that JP8 is just monstrous.

[@erikdijkhuizen]

The string patch sounds actually better on the Deepmind!

[@392Firepower]

I owned 2 Jup 8's---they always underwhelmed me but of course they LOOK GORGEOUS...there is absolutely no reason they should be as expensive as they are.

[@shane864]

There is no reason an ultra rare, ultra badass, genre defining legendary vintage instrument that made the sounds we all grew up with should cost some money? #entitled

[@cooperofnavarone8616]

@@shane864 dudes probably thinking "leave me alone asshole, that comment was from like a year ago". lol

[@jupiter8a]

Agree, in terms of looks, the JP-8 is the best looking analog ever imo.. The Memorymoog is probably next followed by the OBX-A or Prophet 5. Wouldn't kick a JP-6 off the 'A'-frame either, come to think of it! Great to see Moog re-issue the Minimoog, adding modern interface connections to make it easily connectable to a DAW etc. Roland have done a pretty good job with the Jupiter X but I'd still like to see a re-issue the JP-8, maybe at a comparable price point to something like the Moog One. Regarding the DM 6/12 they sound fantastic for the money and are hard to beat for sheer value and list of features.

[@bengsynthmusic]

​@@shane864 Sorry but it just doesn't sound...interesting. It's just...basic strings or plucks that sound huge but don't sound unique. OB-X has an amazing more analog sound. CS-80 amazing expressiveness and pad. Moog has an iconic filter. JP-8 is mostly for its looks let's be real.

[@shane864]

@@bengsynthmusic I own all of the big vintage polys aside from the 80 because software with a polyAT controller nails that sound and I have no love for the hardware, and the JP8 is the last one I'd sell out of all of them. Memorymoog is the crazyass bass king, P5 is for sync and more aggro bass, OB the big brasses and round pads obviously, Trident does epic space pads, and the JP8 is the king of pretty and attacky bonk. Ethereal strings, the snappiest arpeggios on the planet, and the best resonant filter in any synth, ever in the IR3109 implementation it has. Putting it in split mode on two slightly different versions of the same patch with the LFO's seperated and out of sync then panning each side a bit left and a bit right is just audio sex... and that's all before getting into how it's the most perfectly designed performance/programmer's synth ever built, which I suppose is what you are stripping down to simply just being superficially pretty. Frankly I don't think you understand what the synth is or does, and that is a shame for you.

[@FakeGlasses]

I have owned a Behringer Model D, Prophet Rev2, Prophet 6, Ob6, Juno 106, Juno 6, Nord Lead 2X, and Deepmind 12. The Model D is fantastic. Solid build quality, outstanding sound, zero problems. I was so excited to get a Deepmind 12. But I found its sound very harsh and the model I got had unforgiveable noise glitch issues where you would switch patches and a key would trigger and be held down (and it was a different key for each patch). The only way to solve it would be to hit another key, at which point the first key would stop firing. This meant it could never be used in a live setting. I've listened to hundreds of these synth comparison videos, but there really is no substitute for sitting down with an instrument and playing it. I know on paper and in these youtube videos the Deepmind 12 can sound similar, and have way more effects, than the classic Junos, prophets, etc. But having sat with, recorded, and played with all of these, the two synths I still have are the Juno 106 and the Ob6. I wish the ob6 had 61 keys, another LFO, a different filter/filter mode. But their sound is amazing. When it comes to sitting in a mix, etc. one could probably never tell the difference, and for that matter there's many vst's that you can get away with, especially when it's a background patch/pad, etc. Price wise this can be a great deal, but the sound was a no go for me. I hope they take a shot at a Jupiter, OB, or CS clone. But I wasn't impressed by the Deepmind 12. There's a value argument to be sure. But for pure sound quality, I think there are much better options, especially used, that don't crush the wallet that much more.

[@vintagesynths]

Sam Strohbehn yes you are right. Great used and vintage options are Alpha Juno, Jx8p or 3p. Modern synths which are nice are the summit for example. Even the JV-880 I like more than the deepmind soundwise.

[@aandarcom]

Also the DM12 would benefit from a little bit of S&G LFO to all oscillators pitch. The poly detune function is too static for emulating old VCOs - it just picks one random number at the start and keeps VERY close to it as long as you are holding the key, which results in almost no movement between the 2 saws. And finally i would experiment with the Rack Amplifier effect to make it break up like JP8. You did a good job with that sound, but IMO it is possible to get it even closer. :)

[@jakobole]

There's a function in the DM to let the OSC and all parameters drift....

[@squareeyedgit]

The DeepMind strings sound was amazingly lush, however close it was to the Jupiter 8 or not.

[@tommisaarinen2394]

The Jupiter 8 only seems to have a little more gravity to its sound. Very impressive of the DM12. Definitely getting one when I've got the money together.

[@Lofyne]

Great comparison. I think I much prefer the sound of the Deepmind.

[@tekis0]

Nice chord selections!

[@jazzualdo]

I love Jupiter 8! Wish I had one someday...

[@BillyCosmosis]

On the opening sequence there is two octaves between the left hand bass and the right hand chords on the JP8, but only one octave between the bass and chords on the DB12. Notice how deep it sounds on the last chord for example. Just sayin'...

[@Bolle128]

good stuff. thanks very much

[@vintagesynths]

teasemepleaseme you are welcome

[@ProckGnosis]

Gut gemacht und sehr interessant. As you demoed you can get plenty of interesting and usable sounds out the DM12, but it does have limitations (like the digital behavior of the envelopes for one thing), that I'm not so crazy about. And lacking that second saw wave oscillator, most of the patches with 2 oscillators have just that touch of square-ish/metallic sheen to them.

[@vintagesynths]

ProckGnosis Danke, sehe ich auch so.

[@SPAZZOID100]

ProckGnosis once you put it poly unison mode, you can have up to 8 oscillators per voice.

[@scottgentile1663]

I'm not sure this is really a complete review, because for the most part, the comparison was between thick string pad type sounds, which pretty much any multi oscillator per voice analog synth can do quite well. Even Roland's boutique line can do this. Where the Jupiter 8 shines is in it's identity when using it's ADSR's with the filter in both the 12 and 24db modes, VCA, cross modulation, and sync. The Behringer looks and sounds really nice but what really surprised me was their design decision not to use individual VCF and VCA ADSR levers, instead making them shared / switchable. I know some may think it's nit picking, but this would drive me a bit nuts. Having a knob, switch, or button for every feature is sound design bliss, which is why the old analog synths like the Jupiter, OBXa, Yamaha CS synths are in such high demand.

[@jmkmusicpedals]

Both sound really good. I avoided Behringer for anything critical for a long time, but I recently got the X Air 18 mixer and it is fantastic. Now I'm looking at the Deepmind. What's the build quality and feel of the Deepmind like? Does it seem like something that will stand up to 5 years of rugged use? Thanks.

[@jacobbrown1690]

yes its all steel and wood. internal power supply. as for the electronics, who knows. its not perfect, they use cheep plastic sliders, so i made solid wood ones in my wood shop. I also changed out the wood end caps to nicer wood. My biggest complaint was the cheap plastic sliders. but they ride on metal under neath, so u can just make your own.

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

really nice vid cheers..

[@Vurt72]

seems to be more going on in the upper register on the jupiter, it sounds more open. Might just have to do with the filter setting though. The low end sounds similar. Sometimes i prefer the jupiter sometimes the DM12, like with all synths you have to find which specific sounds they excel at.

[@theodore8178]

Behringer used to make crap audio gear. But these synths they are coming out with are amazing. An analog polysynth at that pricepoint! I picked up a neutron and love it.

[@johnnyv673]

yes their business plan is now much better, steal other people's designs, what's not to like ?

[@KEVBOYMUSIC]

@@johnnyv673 Yeah well if Roland didn't have their head up their ass, and would make analog synths like everyone has been asking them to do for YEARS then maybe I would agree with you. Everyone wants good/cheap copies of these old synths that cost thousands of dollars, and if Roland etc won't do it then why shouldn't someone else? Either way the Deepmind is a new design.

[@MartyTanx]

Deepmind is the next synth that i want buying !

[@martijn_nl]

The nonlinear behavior and differences between the oscillators of old analog synths makes the sound organic. Synths like Jupiter 8 have that quality. Another important feature of the Jup is it's slew rate, the speed at which the sound rises to full power. The DM12 is a great synth but hopefully Behringer will put more of those classic qualities into their next products!

[@KiR_3d]

Thanks for the comparison anyway! Hard to find people who has Jupiter 8 and did bought DeepMind 12.

[@vintagesynths]

MoolahNasreddin haha, well I bought it for my band not for the studio, but I will sell it. It's not my synth really.

[@KiR_3d]

I've just thought that the market need some DIY kits with "core" devices that will be storing presets and controlling VCOs like in Jupiter-8. It will be a bomb in DIY world if somebody will dare to make it :)

[@zibbybone]

When demoing the string sounds, I thought you were going to play "Forever Young" since you started on the C major chord.

[@mtroni]

This is great, vielen dank! Would you mind sharing the patches / patch settings so we can try this at home?

[@Digiphex]

That was nice. Do some more patch comparo's.

[@vintagesynths]

Digiphex Electronics if I will find time, I will do it maybe

[@old_romans]

I am here to justify my Deepmind 12 purchase, thanks.

[@nikosnikou7474]

Am new to the sybths worls and i love atmosheric chillout music....at the moment am looking on the deepmind 12 and nord lead a1...any advises?

[@XYtoTheDoubleG]

absolutely unbelievable! Behringer for the synth company of the year! no competition here!!!

[@vrsstudiosorlando4062]

The DM12 is much deeper dive into the perameters and if someone took a bit more time I truly believe you could come almost 90% exact. The one thing the JP8 had was the open voicing spread and the way it spread out the polyphony and the DM12 comes very close if not exceeds! amazing synth for 800$ !

[@darshonaut]

toll gemacht !

[@vintagesynths]

darshonaut Danke dir

[@indioxeneize6494]

Rüdiger Gaenslen

[@amplifier2]

„The deep mind is more on the juno side of things.“ Laozi, 600 b.c.

[@AlainHubert]

As much as I like my DM12, the fact that it has only 6 voices (in Unison-2 mode), shows up as voice stealing on long release envelope times. That Jupiter 8, with its 8 voices, is such a beast. Interesting demo nonetheless, thanks for sharing.

[@SPAZZOID100]

AlainHubert the prophet-5 only had 5 voices.

[@Unifono2012]

The second patch sounds great on the deepmind.

[@jmfhsmith4923]

I wonder what kind of mods can be done to the deepmind to improve the quality. To sound more like JP-8 and or Juno 60. Is there greater hope?

[@JoseAngelMorente]

No need for that. The DM sounds great as is. If you want a synth to sound like a Juno, just buy a Juno.

[@edmundgrimes6566]

5:39 give me a break, what a sound! Beautiful! :-O

[@mono6839]

Klingen anders die beiden aber beide sehr sehr schön! Konnte mir nur den DM6 leisten, freue mich aber sehr darauf wenn er kommt! Danke für die gute Aufnahmequalität der Synth.

[@mikesmee]

It's not a JP8, let's be honest....But it's bloody good at this price point!

[@MacXpert74]

I don't own a Deepmind 12, but from you video I get the impression that the envelopes 'snap back' to their attack value when they re-trigger instead of picking up from the release value on that moment. With a long release time, on the Jupiter, when you exceed the 8 note polyphony, the envelopes re-trigger from the point where the release value was. This makes the transition in notes sound smooth when playing notes after each other before the release time ended. On the Deepmind the envelopes sound like they are 'cutting off' and snapping back to their attack value, rather than picking up from the last release value. (sorry if this was a bit cryptic sounding ;)

[@vintagesynths]

MacXpert74 you are right, that's also my experience. When you program it, it's really disturbing. It doesn't sound organic. The envelopes just stop immediately without release, even release in envelope is long. You see at this example that it's a digital controlled synth, whereas the JP is completely analog circuits.

[@MacXpert74]

Yeah, right. That's something I don't like about digital synths or analog synths with "digital envelopes". I own a JP-6 and Juno-60 they both just like the JP-8 have envelopes that pick up from the release value. With the limited polyphony this sounds much nicer on string patches than a synth that re-triggers it's envelopes from the 0 point. You'll then need many more notes of polyphony to have it sound smooth with envelopes that behave like that. It's a shame!

[@aandarcom]

It is not a feature of digital envelopes, but a feature of badly programmed digital envelopes. It works exactly the way you want on most of the VSTi synths i am using. If it indeed resets like that on DM12, all you need to do is write a feature request for the firmware team.

[@MacXpert74]

+aandarcom Ah, I see, that makes sense. I haven't played the Deepmind yet, so I'm not sure of how it behaves, or if it's maybe a setting somewhere. I was just going by what I'm hearing in the video. Most sample based synths that I've played do behave the way I described above, with the envelopes resetting. But that's usually not a big deal if you have 128-256 note polyphony. But on my analog synths the envelopes don't reset like that.

[@vintagesynths]

It is definitely so, that the DM lacks from the warmth like a vintage synth, but there are possibilities to camouflage these things with some programming. In the pad patch I used also lfo to get the oscillators a bit lively.

[@nullstress]

What song is he playing in the beginning?

[@ZElTGElST]

What a massive sounding beast. DM12 is quite a synth but he has nothing to do VS a JP08

[@jetpacksnake9741]

Did u save the DM bank to share?

[@NickSBailey]

To my ears, the Jupiter 8 sounds way better here, more alive. But not sure how much of that is down to the extra lower octaves. Deepmind sounds like it needs a tune-up some of the time too. Still, looking forward to getting the module version of the Deepmind 12 soon.

[@TheCleansingx]

JP-8 has been winning the beauty contests for 40 years and still keeps winning..

[@solomonjenkins9505]

Which modern analog polysynth to get? I want something with little to no menu diving, I got the sub37 for my mono and it's brilliant, but now I want a poly. Ob6 looks good and has a fat sound, the dm12 seems limited and ppl say the faders are uselses and it's mostly menu diving so fuck that....is the novation peak good?

[@lardosian]

Solomon Jenkins Ob6 if you can afford one, just listen to nick batt drool over it, that's all the proof ye need!!

[@lardosian]

Peak sounds nice too but its a hybrid..dig osc's with analog filter, just sayin. The Erebus stuff sounds really good too..

[@solomonjenkins9505]

I'm big time leaning towards the ob6, only problem is 6 voices is a wee bit limited...I would really like at least 8

[@jakeelliott6855]

oh lord the jupiter sounds fucking good

[@SPAZZOID100]

Jake Elliott so does the DM.

[@danielgrace7887]

The brass sounds you are playing can be made with almost any synthesiser. Please can you play a sound that is more exotic / unusual and specific to the Deep Mind or Jupiter 8?

[@TheHotFalafel]

Deep Mind 12 is a brilliant synth. Only problem is that the keys feel a little flimsy. I'll probably wait until they release the desktop version and use controller

[@josephwright5921]

TheHotFalafel Yep. When the desktop comes out, it will join my collection.

[@willmikkelsonaudio4142]

If you own a Deepmind 12 I re-created the original JUNO-106 Factory presets that you can load into it! Here's a link to hear the presets and the download link is in the bio: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX2moGSqic6JoMU

[@foroudifarhad]

Do you think we can hear you talking when you're playing the synth at the same time??

[@acidjack]

Great video. Now im angre that i ordered just a dm6 :( for your sounds 12 voices are the minimum.... Any how nice work. Can you share the 2 patches from the video ?

[@vintagesynths]

acidjack303 thank you. In the end of the video you can see screenshots of the two patches.

[@acidjack]

i will try it on my DM6 :-)

[@deantiquisetnovis]

Great comparison! And people who buy vintage synths for their sound don‘t know what they get themselves into! I own more than 20 of those relicts and at least one of them needs repairs or calibration at any one time. The Jupiter 8 is a beast and nightmare to repair. I think the only worse one was the Polymoog I once owned back in the day 😂

[@vintagesynths]

Thank you. I also have many vintage synths and used to have a lot. But my Jupiter 8 was and is my most reliable one. The OB-xa the most problematic.

[@deantiquisetnovis]

@@vintagesynths Japanese engineering vs. American engineering 😂 Am Always surprised when I open one of my Moogs and think „not really!!“ 😂

[@deantiquisetnovis]

My Polymoog drove me nuts back in the day 😂 And it is way overrated by many today. The only good sound was Vox Humana

[@Pvaeerener]

I thought you were about to sing "words don't come easy" at the very beginning... :-))

[@spyridonstouraitis8530]

Hahahhahah 😂😂😂😅

[@machiwoomiapoo]

This is a very nice tutorial. I didn't buy the Deepmind 12; instead, I bought the Jupiter 8. I think both are amazing though. Thanks for the wonderful video. :) Sam.

[@vintagesynths]

Machiwoomiapoo thank you Sam 😀. You already have a great vintage Roland museum. I like it and your Goldberg interpretations are really great!

[@SPAZZOID100]

Machiwoomiapoo deep pockets

[@drkam6]

The Deepmind is a beautiful synth and I like it very much. However, I discovered that when changing patches there is a gap of silence. While this is ok in the studio, in a live situation may not be too good. If Behringer fixes this minor thing, the Deepmind will complete its awesomeness. I do own a 14-bit JP-8, and yes it sounds massive.

[@networkservices3121]

That delay is caused by being an analog synth with a built in digital routing bay and excellent effects rack. But i agree that is something that sticks out.

[@skyreadersociety6183]

those doubling/unison tricks really push the DM, think this is it where DM really start to shine.

[@SPAZZOID100]

skyreader society yep. Up to 8 osc per voice.

[@mariomazerati]

Holy shit ok i want a deepmind now! It sounds amazing that’s all that matters

[@phoenixrising1576]

Hi can u take the sound much further than a 106? I own a 106. The poly d also interests me.

[@kaitsu9608]

Yeah, kinda. There is 2-unison that halves the voices but will get you the detuned saws, which i think was used here to get to the jupiter territory.

[@kaitsu9608]

Also it has lots of effects that are not the worst at all. Provided by tc electronics.

[@drydessert4198]

Ich finde, der Unterschied ist groß. Wer sich allerdings einen Jupiter 8 heute leisten kann und will, der wird sicher nicht zwischen dem JP8 und dem DM12 schwanken. Man bekommt für einen fairen Kurs einen recht gutes Instrument.

[@josephwright5921]

The Deepmind sounds better than my Virus KC and Alesis Micron.

[@snuppssynthchannel]

@@Aleksondos Virus sound like a VST, very flat and boring, like there are something missing in the frequencies. I think there are several other synths that does a better job at analogue emulation. I like the Virus for its digital aspects and sound, but the Deepmind sound better to my ears and i have 12 synths.

[@RoHen-pw5ol]

@Alecsondos Sorry but I couldn't disagree more :) I've had 3 Virus synths & they sounded pretty bad in comparison to modern Virtual Analogue like the Roland ACB stuff, and comparing it against real analogue, it falls flat on it's face. Doesn't sound analogue at all to my ears

[@NTRSN-Archive]

@@snuppssynthchannel i agree .i have here the Virus Kb and never was a big fan from it and i just use this thing for a sound layer

[@onsesejoo2605]

If you want analog oomph, just buy a cheap guitar overdrive or fuzz effect and drive the sound through it. It definitely will give the growl you need for your lead or bass sound.

[@ScoopexUs]

7:12 is interesting. Screenshots from what? A VST? External PC programmer?

[@networkservices3121]

It is the interface you can set up wirelessly to the DM12 for easier editing

[@ScoopexUs]

Network Services Only works on Ipad?

[@networkservices3121]

Nope. IOS Android and windows

[@geet77777]

someone needs to make a rainbow fader kit for the deepmind

[@scavenom2008]

Look that Jupiter is awesome but the Deep Mind comes very close and for the price it's a no brainer. I have it and it is a solid piece of gear for sure.

[@JCOLE95COLEWORLD]

Don't know what to get this or studiologic sledge 2.0 or korg king korg??

[@Deeplycloseted435]

Crazy Mence Depends what you want/have. I know a lot of synth dorks who like the King Korg. I’ve never played one. The Sledge is like a knob per function Blofeld with less features. Personally, its the features that make the Blofeld great, its amazing depth, modulation matrix and so many wavetables and samples. DM12 is DCO heaven.

[@jacobbrown1690]

the king korg hands down, I can do a perfect jp8 on a king korg, and also an obx. it has many filters, is bi timberal and has a real 12ax7 tube over drive. I own a lot of synths, and its the best virtual analogue i have used so far. I had s studio sledge 2.0, sold it and bought a used roland jp 80. I can also tell you that the deepmind 12, which i own is about 87 percent of the jp8 in sound, but has more features. I have had a jp8 in the past. Sold it for a yamaha cs 80 twenty years ago. Now i just sample all the old synths and put them into a yamaha xf7 to play back.

[@Jimbo386000]

It’s similar, but it’s got its own sound.

[@JKC40]

set the Deep Mind for a saw on OSC 1 and OSC 2... oh, right....

[@BillyCosmosis]

@5:41 AFAIC the DM12 emulating the JP8 strings actually sounds *better* than the JP8

[@wildaudiosociety]

jupiter 8 brass wins, but I think I liked the DM12 string patch more. Can't truly be that sure with youtube compression.