Where is the Pre-Flood - Flood Boundary? - Dr. Steve Austin (Conf Lecture)

[@drkarenabbey7499]

This is excellent information, creation makes sense. God Bless all working for Is Genesis History

[@Critter145]

I LOVE this series of videos.

[@bonnielucas3244]

These scientists have my total loyalty, and I wish I had a mind and expertise like this, so that I could help others see the evidence . Where I have resided most of my 64 years, there is obvious ancient water catastrophe evidence along many highway cuts, I mean hundreds of miles of it in my state. How sad that so many people have been conditioned to not even realize what they are driving past year after year

[@92GreyBlue]

God bless you Bonnie God has arranged things for me to tell you he loves you.

[@knightclan4]

If you have a smart phone, just ask people to Google Images folded mountains and ask them how to fold mountains without breaking at the folds

[@billperez1141]

Love this site & this speaker. Answers the doubts I had 45 yrs. ago (not yet a believer at that time in The Gospel of Jesus Christ) in Catholic H.S. being taught evolution as a fact. In those days you did not question the priests who were teaching these things (had to keep your doubts to yourself) that just didn't sound right. I thank GOD, IGH, & Dr. Austin for answering my doubts w/The Truth of The Word of God & Jesus Christ who had mercy on me & saved me. (I pray parents at home watch these videos together w/their children).

[@wms72]

Priests didn't teach high school 45 years ago. The Pope's encyclical "Humani Generis" Aug 12, 1950, said that Catholics could NOT believe in the evolution of Man. Look it up.

[@marciamcgrail5889]

what a distinguished observational researcher sharing his knowledge - thank you for a great lecture

[@marciamcgrail5889]

@Darth Quantum o, do tell, Darth! - don't keep it to yourself. God bless.

[@edenliam2578]

i realize Im kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online ?

[@bowieterrance9513]

@Eden Liam i dunno I watch on Flixportal. just google for it :) -bowie

[@edenliam2578]

@Bowie Terrance Thank you, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D I appreciate it !!

[@bowieterrance9513]

@Eden Liam glad I could help =)

[@bonnielucas3244]

I believe the Bible 100 percent. I think the problem with more people realizing it's true can be likened to trying to teach a preschool child the calculus. Unless the child is a super- genius, the true but complex, compressed information is easy to just dismiss because it's so beyond average comprehension and experience. However, once one has really surrendered one' s life to Christ, the Holy Spirit definitely enables understanding of many more important things. Before the Lord turned me around at age 25, I was in the dark about a lot of Bible concepts and teachings, because I would not let real faith into my heart. I was raised surrounded by wonderful Bible believing people, but I turned my back in my teens. After ten years, I cried out to the Lord for forgiveness, and have been walking with God for over 38 years. Creation science has been an ongoing blessing to support

[@65gtotrips]

While I agree the Holy Spirit definitely helps, I don’t buy the part of your idea that the Bible is complex. It’s not beyond comprehension because the Bible is written on a 3rd grade level to 8th grade level.

[@futtermanfarms6791]

yes we were using Power Point in 1997. Love your talks and takes .. thank you

[@ryanstropicalplantsoutdoor1989]

I need more information about the 60 mile formation I can't find anything about it

[@infiad1275]

The pre-flood power point presentation! Love it! 😁

[@rogermccullough4372]

What was the shape and elevations of the earth,ground, before the flood? Thanks, Roger McCullough

[@scottturnick7883]

That's what I've been wondering myself

[@josiahallenswife6899]

Timothy Cleary has a chart of this in his book "Carved in Stone". I would highly recommend that book.

[@knightclan4]

The evidence supports scripture as written. Faith in Christ as Savior is not blind.

[@65gtotrips]

Question…Do they think or know if before the Flood there weren’t any tectonic or continental plates ? Like was the original earth all one crust ? Since there wouldn’t be any earthquakes because the rocks and ground weren’t groaning before the fall. (if I’m using the correct terminology about crust).

[@cripplegunsmith1]

I like where you're going with this line of thought. In the beginning, God made everything perfect. So it would make sense to have one large unbroken crust.

[@jamesdavis8937]

The only flood was when my toilet ran over 😂😂😂😂😂

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

They had PowerPoint as far back as Office 95 and before (the old Office 3.1 suite). So yeah, PowerPoint existed more than 20-years ago. Remember Freelance Graphics? That was a presentation manager software package that competed with and (I believe) predated Microsoft PowerPoint.

[@jimhughes1070]

Come on y'all! 🤣 I still remember putting a little bit of fine oil on various parts of the typewriter and having to mash real hard to make a letter 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bookofrevelation4924]

As child in 1970s I remember visiting Ruby Falls underground caverns in Tennessee, and later in 1990s visited Kingston Arizona underground caverns, are these caverns all gaps in between pre-flood and post-flood layers? They seemed very similar.

[@MarkOBrienmarkspage1]

Dr Austin, I'm a little confused. I thought when the flood was so severe that it would not have left any evidence of any boundaries between the old world and the new.

[@wms72]

Yes, that's what many Creationists say

[@Freddy-Da-Freeloadah]

Uhh... The Bible mentions 4 rivers in Gen. Chap. 2, three of which are still known... And personally I think the mysterious 4th River, Pison is the Amazon River, located in South America, except I think it flows back wards... If we are just talking about materialistic processes, the flood would have left no evidence of anything before it. But the Flood of Noah was the work of the Creator of the Earth, and God has reasons for what He does. I think God preserved a lot, including some pre-flood architecture. For instance there is an island in the middle of Lake Titikaka in Bolivia that has physical structure in the land it's self that appears the same as the Atlantis that Plato describes: Concentric Circle shaped mounds on an urban scale. But that's what the new ager's think. They think a cataclysm occurred 12,000 years ago for some reason. The Bible says the flood of Noah happened about 2000 years ago, depending on how you calculate the years. IMHO

[@vaughnlonganecker986]

The flood itself is creating a new boundary. The flood itself is laying down new material, a new boundary that is often easy to discern between the old geological layer and the new flood material.

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Powerpoint has been around since at least the mid 90's or so. I was still in school when power point was around a fair while. But yeah they had it. The functionality was much more inferior i'm sure. But it was around. EDIT: Powerpoint is literally 30 years old this year lol.

[@Xcerptshow]

It was invented in the 80s. It wasnt a part of windows until 1993. 3:55 they mention 91.

[@DBravo29er]

He's probably referring to a Chiron type machine.

[@lynnmitzy1643]

I believe I have seen the Great uncomformity in Pennsylvania, is that even possible? Thank you.

[@conservativeriot5939]

@@timhallas4275 so it could be explained by millions of years or a global flood, depending on perspective.

[@jimhughes1070]

@@conservativeriot5939 lecture after lecture the speaker demonstrates the implausibility of the millions of years hypothesis.... And the necessity, when viewing the physical evidence, of recognizing sedimentary formations obviously laid down rapidly... Quite the conundrum...

[@conservativeriot5939]

@@jimhughes1070 I'm a YEC

[@jimhughes1070]

@@conservativeriot5939 10-4.,. Thanks brother, me too, that helps foggy old brain🤣🤳🙏

[@Freddy-Da-Freeloadah]

@@conservativeriot5939 An S.Y.E.C. you are, I think... Sarcastic Young Earth Creationist! SYEC's of the World Unite! IMHO

[@grahamamorrisonsr1135]

Terrific presentation. The graphics sort of stink. Couldn’t you get a student to edit the video by adding Picture in Picture graphics that we can SEE. Half the time I couldn’t even see the cursor, and I have a GREAT screen. The information is too important to present it with almost useless (but not totally useless) graphics. I was able to follow most of it, but I fear most people would not. But GREAT analysis and GREAT description.

[@jaywinters2483]

Did you forget. you're talking to laymen? We don't know these terms. .

[@65gtotrips]

I get your question, but this recording is from a seminar type conference where there were geological technical attendees.

[@courag1]

What was the cosmic event of creating the major tectonic event which broke up Earth so much so to release the fountains of the great deep? Clearly this set off earthquakes which did not settle down for over a year which then finished up with the continents riding apart from each other at a rate hard to conceive. All the energy to create all this, had to be a pretty horrible event. Do we know if another planetary system made it’s way through our solar system as we have a whole planet destroyed into an asteroid field. Mars has evidence on the surface of terrible calamities too. Our moon is pock-marked with asteroid collisions. This is like hearing the Coroner explain how the patient died but what was the murder weapon? The sorts of earthquakes which happened then could even be measured or estimated by our current Richter scale?

[@jimhughes1070]

That's a sharp observation there brother.... Most people never get anywhere near that far in their thinking 😅 it doesn't take a lot of thinking to muster up a little bit of imagination about what would have been going on... No one would be surviving that first 150 days.... With all the mountains valleys tectonic faults created by the splitting up of the single continent, would have probably been pretty deadly.. 🙏🤣🤳

[@jamesprince1609]

Could be edited in Illustrator.

[@ingvaraberge7037]

There is an obvious split in the Christian (as I suppose there might also exist Jewish, Muslim and maybe others also) young earth creationist environment. While those that are focused on the scientific side of it tend to look at the great flood as an event that was very dramatic to the earth, in most narratives basically what formed the planet as we know it today - and so also in this video, many of those that are more into the theological side of it tend to have a totally different approach. They often focus mostly on the giants, which are hardly ever mentioned by scientific creationists. And they tend to think of the pre-flood world as physically quite similar to the world we see today. The latter idea is most profoundly expressed in the suggestion that Egyptian pyramids may pre-date the flood. Then it is impossible that the rocks the pyramids are built on (which I don't know what kind of rocks are, but most likely they are of sedimentary origin) could be laid down by the flood. One also has the search for the physical location for the garden of Eden, which also often is based on the world as we know it today as the preassumption. And the Bible actually mentions two well-known present-day rivers in connection to said garden, so it is easy to imagine a geography not too different from the geography we have today. Anyway, if we look a bit further: I have studied a bit geology, enough to conclude that it is practically impossible to claim that all sedimentary rocks on earth where produduced in one single, great flood. That does not mean that geology can prove young earth creationism wrong. There are (at least) two ways the earth can still be young: 1. Sedimentary rocks where there from creation. And this is maybe not so unlikely? For example many plants only thrive on soils derived from limestone, and limestone is nearly solely present in sedimentary rocks. How could these plants survive before the flood if there where no sedimentary rocks? How do flood geologists imagine the world before the flood? Was it a world of gneisses and granites, or how was it? 2. Sedimentary rocks could have emerged when sin came into the world. It is strikingly little discussed in creationist fora how much creation must have changed simply as a result of sin comming into the world and Adam abd Eve being thrown out of the garden. Biology must have changed a lot. Carnivores must one time have been plant eaters. But as they are today, they are in every way specialized hunters and meat eaters. And so on. The Bible mentions plant species comming up as punishment for sin (new species, or new properties of old species). Some people claim that the second law of thermodynamics, one of the most basic laws of physics, is s direct consequence of what Adam and Eve did.

[@nowanloka4302]

You mention the pyramids of Egypt and the rocks they are built on, however the various civilizations, i.e. Egyptian, Sumerian, Greek etc, (according to the Bible) did not appear until after the flood as the Tower of Babel was not built until many years AFTER the flood. So the pyramids of Egypt according to the Bible did not exist at the time of the flood...so the rocks they are built on could very well have been affected by the flood.

[@pocadon]

They have one hour to talk about whatever they specialize in so they can't run off on tangents talking about areas they don't specialize in. As for "Eden" it is gone. If the entire world was flooded and was joined with catastrophic plate tectonics then most of the land was ripped to shreds. There would be an unrecognizable landscape before Noah. And no the pyramids don't predate the flood especially when it comes to the destruction of the flood and the stones that were used.

[@TazHall]

Interesting thoughts!

[@wms72]

@@nowanloka4302 Some of the pyramids are antediluvian, some are post. You are confusing post-Flood language development with pre-Flood civilization. Just because a pyramid is in present day Egypt does not mean the post -Flood Egyptians built it. The Great Pyramid has no hieroglyphs in it.

[@wms72]

@Ingvar Sedimentary rock began to form from the beginning of Creation. It doesn't take long to form. So, the antediluvian pyramids could have been built on sedimentary rock. Some of the sub par pyramids were built after the Flood.

[@BryonLape]

PowerPoint was released in 1987.

[@richardserena4304]

I would like to ask if a meteor could be the cause of the release of all the water and tectonic turmoil that the Bible describes ?

[@davden965]

Why not?

[@delinquentinparadise]

How much water existed then in the form of ice ? The answer to that question would give you the amount of water available to flood the earth. The mechanics of how ice becomes water is now well known to science. Once the water from what was once the ice cap flowed as free water it quickly raised world wide sea levels by seventy five meters. ( And sea levels are still rising to this day ). To study pre flood civilisations one must first determine the ancient shore lines. And one then finds that what was soon to become the entrance to the Mediterranean Sea was high above the pre flood sea levels. The Mediterranean basin was dry land until the sea level rose high enough to allow the Atlantic Ocean to flood over the entrance to the Mediterranean Basin.

[@jimhughes1070]

I never gave any consideration to that idea.... But I am going to now 🤣thank you for reminding me! 🙏 We do know something broke the "firmament" (the "thin metal sheet" of Frozen hydrogen in the upper atmosphere..)... And it rained for 40 days! 😬😬... Really, I'm just an old hillbilly... I always figured God just hollered at it!!🤣🤣🙏

[@lawneymalbrough4309]

He's in no hurry to get to the point is he? I almost stopped the play from waiting to long.

[@bluebluedogbooks]

Interesting.

[@davidinsvaz7883]

Harvard Graphics...

[@djsarg7451]

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". Gen. 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” The events of day 6 can n ot have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to? Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.

[@thomasdykstra100]

Occam's razor?

[@jcdrnosecone]

Mike Lindell before he lost his mind

[@skeeze1]

Is it not strange that not a single person, no one, nobody else on earth had a boat or ship at that time?? Other than the mythical Noah?

[@stryker5841]

Never implys that, the people didn't believe it was going to rain because it never had before. The plants were watered from a mist coming up from the ground. Plus they're little boats would have capsized.

[@jamesprince1609]

Maybe they did but not designed for such a long voyage as The Flood was. The Ark was specially designed for such an event. Possibly no one had created a ship large enough because they probably shipped everything around the supercontinent. Or across by rivers. Shallow ocean. One landmass. Different conditions. All those stories told after the Flood by those on the Ark became the basis of the Atlantis mythos.

[@TheMoravians]

There's no excuse for using a 20 year old slide presentation in 2018. Please delete this video or at least edit out the first 3 minutes and re-post it without the nonsense about Powerpoint. Is there nobody thinking about presentation and professionalism at "Is Genesis History"?

[@yungpep]

Bro, stfup

[@standeakin5608]

LOL .What nonsense

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Okay... so feel free to believe your Marxist masters and their Hegelian dialectic bs. LOL, good luck with that.

[@stryker5841]

@@timhallas4275 And we laugh at you because you choose to believe this universe has eternally existed of it's own volition, which is totally impossible

[@florencebaur9608]

*8 scriptures* were used to convict Galileo of heresy for publishing the science that the Earth revolves around the Sun, and one was Joshua 10:12 " Then spoke Joshua to the LORD...Sun, stand thou still... and thou also Moon..." Joshua commanded *both* the Sun and the Moon to stand still *not the Earth* which proves that the bible writers believed that the Sun moved, and traveled around the Earth, and could be stopped by a prayer to Yahweh. As Job 9:7 reveals, Yahweh controls the Sun's movement _in real time_ " Which commands the Sun and it rises not " so Isaiah 38: 8 describes a prophetic sign by Yahweh regarding King Hezekiah's recovery by *REVERSING the Sun's movement* ! " Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees which is gone down in the sundial of Ahaz ten degrees BACKWARD. So the Sun returned ten degrees by which degrees it was gone down " Yahweh could even *accelerate* the Sun's movement ! ! ! Amos 8 9 And it shall come to pass in that day...that I will cause the Sun to go down at noon and I will darken the Earth in the clear day " The *Sun's movement* is attested to at Habakkuk 3 11 " The Sun and Moon stood still in their habitation..." The. Sun. Does. Not. Move. There's more, but these are clear about the cosmology of the " inspired " bible writers. A supernaturally inspired book would at least describe the creation truthfully compared to what all ancient civilizations believed. The bible is not inspired.

[@VernCrisler]

It's called phenomenal language. We use it when we say the sun will rise tomorrow. The interpretive rule I've heard is that you Interpret the Bible literally but not literalistically.

[@SandShark350]

I agree with the response above me, also people refer to the movement of the heavens relative to their location. Today we also know that the sun does not move however relative to our apparent fixed fixed point the heavenly bodies do appear to move around us. And our language still speaks about that motion in that way. So I assert that you are misinterpreting the intention and the context of the Bible.

[@jimagnew1643]

Many people are inspired to not be inspired, could you be one of them?

[@jimagnew1643]

Many people are inspired to be uninspired, could you be one of them?

[@marciamcgrail5889]

@David Anewman couldn't have said it better myself (other than although obviously the Bible is history, not primarily a science tutorial, I would add 'where the Bible DOES touch on scientific topics, there uncover the Truth.' God bless