Islam and Democracy | Khalid Yasin

Khalid Yasin speaks about Islam & Democracy.
Video taken from the lecture, "Building a Muslim Community" by Khalid Yasin.
Full lecture available here: • Building a Strong Musl...
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[@HallakBoy]

As a muslim you MUST believe that the sharia of Allah is the only solution. Because no one is more wise and knowledgeable than Allah swt.

[@TheYereke]

To protect your rights and struggle for it is also from the shariah.

[@furidamusan]

@@TheYereke to not vote doesn’t mean to dislike or have negative mindset against non Muslim countries

[@muslimidentity360]

Very relevant video.

[@2ndT0M3h]

My dear brothers and sisters it is very important to know democracy is the greatest shirk of this context. If anything will enter muslims into hellfire it will be democracy may Allah The Almighty The Most Kind protect us. This aspect of tawheed hakkimiyah only became fitnah after the destruction of caliphate. Remember to believe in shariah strictly and hatred to any other systems is part of tawheed do not fall into shirk this is sincere advice and only few scholars have guts to speak about.

[@TheYereke]

Can you explain how democracy is shirk?

[@TheYereke]

@Izzadīn Ar-Rūsī, in democracy you are given a right to vote for a ruler whom you decide to be the most helpful to protect your interests. You must be very stupid if you can not distinguish between a ruler and God. Voting for a ruler in a country that does not force you to change your religion does not mean you are making a shirk. You just help yourself to solve your wordly matters. Democracy does not force you to change your religion. There is no forcing in religion according to the Quran. There is no such a credo like La hukma illa hukmallah (no decision except the decision of Allah) in Islam. If you accept that credo it means any decision is shirk except the decision of Allah. It means if you decide something then you become a false god. However we know that Allah gave us right to make decisions. They can be wrong or right and that does not make you a false god. This credo was uttered by khawarij according to Muslim history. This credo is like saying there is no private property except the private property of Allah based on the ayat in the Quran that everything in the skies and earth belong to Allah.

[@TheYereke]

@Izzadīn Ar-Rūsī , you dont understand what you say.

[@TheYereke]

@Izzadīn Ar-Rūsī , tell me please, can there be a non-muslim just ruler according to Islam?

[@TheYereke]

@Izzadīn Ar-Rūsī, you are a stupid fitna maker. Young in age, stupid in mind. You speak beautiful words but make dirty deeds.

[@smalik4854]

But then what IS the alternative?

[@OutlandishSamurai]

there is a council of scholars and they elect a khalif

[@TheYereke]

There is a powerful one who gathers people around him and creates an army then overpowers other powerful ones and establishes his kingdom and becomes a Ruler. And people call him the ruler.

[@furidamusan]

Yes they elect but does this Khalif change laws ? Make halal haram and haram halal ?

[@HallakBoy]

You are mixing things up. If the caliph follows Quran and sunnah stricly then yes, we are obliged to follow him and we have no choice. However, in our time no one stricly follows Quran and sunnah but we must believe that Allah's sharia is the only solution. Preferring democracy above sharia is kufr.

[@live052011]

thinks shikh

[@OutlandishSamurai]

you obey the caliph, unles he doesn't rule whit islam

[@layela4484]

Melbourne

[@golamrasul5429]

what if emir take wrong decision??

[@alexanderwood8565]

If he is a Muslim (an important condition), and is exercising his independent legal reasoning (ijtihad) in a genuine attempt to reach the correct Islamic position then he will be rewarded even if he made a mistake. If he is a just Muslim ruler, it is not permissible to attempt to rebel or overthrow him - whatever our disagreement may be.

[@SlamboSVV]

@@alexanderwood8565 But what if emir take wrong decision?

[@2ndT0M3h]

If the people give the 'bay3ah' and agree to the elected person than he is the amir. As for the ruler he must be a muslim(someone who follows the Quran and the sunnah(the way of the prophet pbuh)). This is as much as i know and forgive me as this is very basic and probably doesn't do the topic much justice. If you have any further questions there are paltalk rooms run by many learned muslim who can answer you much better than me and bring you evidences. Go to Human Rights->Islam is solution

[@2ndT0M3h]

wa alaikom salaam very important questions. As far as i know a 'shura' council is elected and not by the people. These are a bunch of men who are considered the most knowledgable and most pious and hence most fit for this job. They decide on an amir if there is no amir otherwise the amir elects a person who he considers to have best the qualities mentioned above and the 'bay3ah'(oath of alliegience is given) by the people or their representitives.

[@TheYereke]

If people who have no knowledge kept shut their mouthes there wouldn’t have been any fitnah.

[@furidamusan]

That might be true but no one of these Amir’s ever tried to change Allah Subhana wa Teala’s Law and disobey his Messenger. Why is that so hard to understand. Please for Allahs sake research your deen.

[@TheYereke]

So according to you nonmuslims must rule by sharia? And if they rule by their nonsharia-laws you are not allowed to live there?

[@furidamusan]

@@TheYereke this Dunya belongs to Allah SWT We can live wherever we want. No, that’s not the case. Don’t know from where you get this information.

[@TheYereke]

@@furidamusan so it is allowed to live in nonshariah ruled government? What if they force you to make haram?

[@born2leader]

were is co existence when it comes to the palestinians people;iraquis;afghans!democracy makes so much poor decisions like the majority of these people voting for wars like iraq recently and dropping bombs on heroshima and nagasaki in the past! ^poor decisions on bailing out the bankers on the economy side;these leaders make poor decisions

[@mzia8925]

so one person makes a wrong decision and everybody suffers, majority makes a wrong decision then majority suffers. This guy is completely illogical. What kind of a system is where one person is considered as supersmart and thinks that he is the only one that can make right decisions. Hitler was also a leader, commander, how did that work out? and what about the assassination of khaleefas? Is that Islam?

[@Millad10]

if majority makes a wrong decision everyone suffers, not the majority suffers.

[@born2leader]

YOU misunderstood were talking about amir not a dictator we talking about a real muslim follower not any average person) seriously you are going to compare hitler to a muslim believer)the people speaks and have consultation but the amir has the final say

[@wisataindonesia6647]

umar say "no Islam unless jamaah and no jamaah unless the Amir and no Amir unless obey and no obey unless baiat" so what the mean of no Islam as umar RA say ? the is mean no zakat,no salah, no believing Allah, no hajj. please brother to be carefully about this issue

[@flyonthree]

I am for democracy in the 21 century. I think it's the only way we can co exist peacefully.

[@holdshiftt2run308]

So are you saying Islam isn't peaceful?

[@holdshiftt2run308]

@@34556ndmd So no one died under a democratic state? We are talking about Islam, not ISIS.

[@holdshiftt2run308]

@@34556ndmd Okay, what about those who died due to secularism? What about all of those kill-1924? ed due to Hitler's eugenics and socialism? What about those killed due to the soviet atheism? What about those killed for Mao's communism? What about those killed by Pol Pot'? What about those killed in Vietnam for democracy and communism? What about those killed by Kemal because they wanted to follow their religion? What about the people killed in the name of racism in the west since the advent of trade in the Americas? What about the Native Americans killed during the wars between the US and the tribes during the first nation wars that spanned from 1602-1924?What is your point exactly? Are you now talking about religion in general or Islam? As far as I can see, every nation touched by Islam still has it's indigenous people and their indigenous cultures.

[@tiktoknaturallife5027]

@@34556ndmd kemal derken atatürken bahsediyor.

[@furidamusan]

Damla Yaşar isis is not representing the real Khilafa.

[@onuigbokenneth449]

but this man lives in a Democratic nation what wrong with this guys

[@gassanali8667]

Onuigbo Kenneth it’s because the whole world is corrupted as our Prophet (peace be on him) informed us. He has to live somewhere in the world until his soul is taken away.

[@TheYereke]

Gassan Ali , oh really? Is the whole world corrupt?

[@TheYereke]

Gassan Ali , there is a saying: if you see a man who says that all are corrupted, such a man himself is corrupted.

[@andyjat6197]

this is the actual face of Islam. when you are lesser in no. use democracy as shield. And when you become majority break it and attack on others.

[@furidamusan]

The world belongs to Allah, we can live wherever we want. Ofc a Muslim has to follow law, as long it not in contradiction.

[@aibnz3804]

Didn’t Muslims chose Otham over Ali rAdia Allahu Nahum? Out of the 6 shura candidates selected by Umar ra , they chose one.

[@serfirazkarakas8485]

Yes but did they choose in a kufr system? In a democrasy system? You choos someone who isnt judging with Allahs Rules.

[@TheYereke]

Serfiraz Karakas , how do you distinguish between just ruler and unjust ruler?

[@furidamusan]

@@TheYereke when you vote, you give your Wakil وكيل to the candidate whom you choose, any haram he commit comes back to you.

[@TheYereke]

@@furidamusan , no. I vote for my rights. I’m not responsible if he betrays. Prophet peace upon him also requested support from the chiefs of Taif to protect his rights. However they rejected. At last in Mecca he got a support from a Meccan mushrik named Mut’im ibn Adi who guaranteed safety to him. And Prophet peace upon him was always grateful to that man for his help even if he kept remaining as a mushrik.

[@furidamusan]

@@TheYereke you mixed something up. Prophet Muhammad SAW never put his self over Allah s legislation. The creatures have no other guardian than HIM; He allows none to share his athority. Al-Kahf 18:26 And those who disbelieve, so for them is destruction and she will waste their deeds. That is because they disliked what Allah has sent down ( Quran and Islamic law), so He rendered their worthless. Muhammad 8-9 Whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the disbelievers. Al-Maeda 5:44

[@ahmet-sivasi]

Mustafa Sabri Efendi, the last SheikhulIslam of the Ottoman Empire, tells in his work Mevkif'ul-Akl 👇 [If the state leaves the line of Islam, "Obeying the dictates of religion is not the business of the government. It is only the business of society." says, this is to separate religion from the state. In such a case, the state apostatized (abandoned religion). If the society consents to such a government, or if the government will make laws by taking the society's proxy in the parliament (that is, by voting), the society will become apostate just as the government is apostate. In this case, the following verse applies to both that government and that ummah: "Those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed, they are the disbelievers themselves." (Surah Maida, Verse 44) A political regime that accepts the principle of secularism means that it has rebelled against the rules of Islam. Therefore, first of all, this government apostatized, and then those who obeyed this administration became apostates one by one. Just as those who take part in the political administration are apostates one by one, the masses obeying this government also fall into apostasy (kufr).] (Mavkif'ul-Akıl, 4/280)

[@live052011]

no that is not islam

[@allenhass4054]

Democracy is not voting , voting is small aspect of democracy, democracy is 1- political freedom, 2- peaceful transfer if power and 3- rule of law , if the society is Muslims society, definitely the law will be from shariaa , so those people who refuse democracy actually they do not want to share power, he may be Imam of Masjid or Amir on group or leader for Islamic organization and do not want to go , they want to stay stick on chair like this guy, nothing in Quraan or hadith against voting , and it is just stupid to think that Muslims could vote on something against their religion, it is completely false , just they love dictatorship, those acutely thrive on dictatorship,

[@mystery8guy]

This brother is so wrong on this topic. Many modern thinkers believe democracy is compatible with Islamic principles. For example, the Quran urges Muslims to consult with each other when conducting affairs, providing an Islamic precedent for election. The Quran forbids compulsion in religion, laying the groundwork for tolerance for religious and political pluralism and equality of Muslims and non-Muslims in civic rights and duties. Some thinkers point to the legal principle of ijma (consensus) as a foundation for democracy. The modern history of democracy in Islam begins with the Egyptian reformer Muhammad Abduh , who sought to strengthen the moral roots of Islamic society by returning to the past while recognizing and accepting the need for change and linking change to the teachings of Islam. He asserted Islam as the moral basis of modern, progressive society. In the early twentieth century, constitutional democracy was advocated by supporters of secularism. The political and socioeconomic failures of Arab governments and rising civil strife in the 1970s and 1980s led to a broader agenda of grievances against regimes and a larger public search for Islamic revival as the only valid basis for social and political life.

[@mystery8guy]

@@34556ndmd I grew up on the island of Cyprus 🇨🇾 so its hard for me to study anything to do with Turkey. I put a lot of details in my comment. U can Google it all now get more info on the topic.

[@Mickey_believ3r]

Choosing a legislator besides Allah is kufr and shirk you clown anyone who promotes voting for man made laws is a kafir