Voting and Political Participation: Halal or Haram? - Omar Suleiman and Suhaib Webb

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[@khadijakumar7896]

AlhumdulilAh I am so proud of the comments section. Thank you brothers and sisters for exposing the falsehood indeed legislation is for Allah Alone!!!!!

[@TheYereke]

tricia kumar, your formulation is hawariji. That formulation was first uttered by hawarijis.

[@ZYORPRODUCTIONZ]

i am so sad seeing people with so much knowledge yet they prefer to side with other than The perfect Divine Law....why cant they just speak the truth....may Allah guide those on truth and may Allah bring light to those who are in falsehood or may Allah sent a mighty destruction upon them for misleading the ummah...

[@adomez8053]

Greg Abdul Sura Maaida 5:44 Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah ] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers.

[@zainkalaq5157]

ameen

[@safwanshahriar4108]

Knowledge? Lol

[@akwatching]

Why would it be wrong to vote in the best interest of Muslims? For example, Donald Trump wanted to impose a Muslim ban and specifically said “Islam hates us”. Why would it have been wrong to vote against him so that he wouldn’t have the power to oppress Muslims?

[@Isa-nu7lr]

The right to legislate halal and haram is for none but ALLAH supana llah

[@tripledose4life726]

Ok brother if you don’t mind me asking where are you from.

[@ob1934]

@@tripledose4life726 it doesnt matter where he from. the law of allah doesnt change based off location

[@lHeatedl]

@@tripledose4life726 it’s in the Quran no matter what you say the Quran is the most right word Surah Yusuf it does not say Yusuf voted in the democracy it is said in the same surah it is a form worship to have any other law than sharia so to vote any other law than sharia is shirk and you will be a kaffir if you do it haraaaaaaaaaaam it is clear kuffur

[@dogagas]

There is a difference between taking on administrative and legislative roles in government. Yusuf took on a administrative role, not a legislative role. But to vote for someone in some legislative role, when only Allah legislates, is a form of shirk. From my knowledge, it should be avoided. Remember, Islam does not accept the current political structure, it seeks to fundamentally change it.

[@olt030]

@Zain Ali what is your question

[@olt030]

@Zain Ali you should distance yourself from working for a taghut governement and there is no difference between the united states or a so called "muslim" country like turkey. I dont know the ruling when it comes to customs but it is not allowed to be a police officer because you have to make sure everybody follows these man made laws or in some countries like france even force sisters to take their Hijab off

[@olt030]

@Zain Ali no you cant because if it is shirk or kufr it will always be, no matter what your intention is. That is also why people should not go to vote, there are people saying to choose the less evil, but in shirk and kufr there is no less evil because Shirk is the greatest evil

[@ZaydDepaor]

there is no doubt supporting man-made law is shirk, it is a basic of Islamic belief...these donkeys are fake scholars and mushrikeen calling to the Fire.

[@ArdashBobojonov]

​@ZainAli-oy3em Brother learn Tawheed and the conditions which take you out of Tawheed. Remember, without knowledge of Tawheed, your Islam, prayer, and fasting with zakat don't count.

[@MiloBoz]

Voting is kufr... On the authority Abi Ab’dillahi al-Nu’man ibn Basheer (ra) who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) say: “That which is lawful is clear and that which is unlawful is clear and between the two of them are doubtful [or ambiguous] matters about which not many people are knowledgeable. Thus, he who avoids these doubtful matters certainly clears himself in regard to his religion and his honor. But he who falls into the doubtful matters falls into that which is unlawful like the shepherd who pastures around a sanctuary, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a sanctuary and Allah’s sanctuary is His prohibition. In the body there is a morsel of flesh which, if it be sound, all the body is sound and which, if it be diseased, all the body is diseased. This part of the body is the heart”. [Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim]

[@MrBossmedia]

Salam brother can you check out my channel?

[@aishay56]

Milo Bo

[@naufalzamir9454]

@@aishay56 Please watch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYDdcnhprripisk

[@mohammadzafar]

i would not want to "engage" politically if it means my vote goes to a man who loves throwing drones in muslim countries

[@nbahighlights8784]

8 years later and nothing has changed :'(

[@tawheedfirst861]

Fear ALLAH (swt), democracy is shirk! democracy is built on shirk! ISLAM is built on TAWHEED ☝ لآ اِلَهَ اِلّا اللّهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُوُل اللّهِ

[@usmanmahmood3276]

The rule is for none but Allah, to him belongs the sovereignty, when you vote and participate in a capitalist system which gives sovereignty to man that is tantamount to Shirk, the precedent from the Sunnah is to rule by what Allah has revealed to his final prophet (saw) who btw did not take a pragmatic approach and compromise his religion. The re-establishment of the Khilafah is an obligation on the whole Ummah and our scholars need to be leading the Ummah in the effort

[@ZaydDepaor]

they are ignorant kuffaar, mushrikeen and not scholars, except scholars of evil calling at the gates of the Fire. People should not listen to these ignorant and brainless fools.

[@osmanbachani270]

Next fatwa will be "father can Prostrate son.!!!!! Surah Yusuf Verse 100 - And he raised his parents upon the throne, and they bowed to him in prostration. And he said, "O my father, this is the explanation of my vision of before.

[@gloryjudgement7563]

Scholars have commented that sujood like this was allowed during Yusuf’s time but now, sujood is legislated for Allah.

[@alTursi05]

Lol, he clearly said that if there is no ruling in our sharia about a matter, then we go to shar'u man qablana, which means the sharia of previous ulama. As for the prostation mas'alah, it is clearly discussed in our sharia so we won't resort to shar'u man qablana. Listen attentively before we comment. Very important my brother.

[@Fireboy426]

Joseph became extremely powerful. Ibn Kathir relates that the king of Egypt had faith in Joseph and that the people loved and revered him. It is said that Joseph was 30 when he was summoned to the king. "The king addressed him in 70 languages, and each time Joseph answered him in that language." Ibn Is-haq comments, "the king of Egypt converted to Islam at the hands of Joseph." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_in_Islam#The_family_reunion

[@DanishKhan-gh6lc]

We are ummah of Muhammad pbuh not ummah of Yusuf A.s. For the ummah of Muhammad pbuh Allah has revealed that who ruled by laws other than what Allah has revealed, they are sinners, non believers and wrongdoers

[@muhammadb6416]

May Allaahu protect us from such scholars Aamiin

[@abubaseer321]

which muslim scholars? you just said 'every' muslim scholar, thats a lie. hamady3

[@abdulmalikmcgill6221]

Facts! Look up what scholars like Shaykh Albani and Shaykh Salih Al Fawzan said. They are obviously against voting and democracy.

[@checkmate5338]

He said many of the ulama that were against are now for it.

[@jamalatmaca8071]

@@checkmate5338 The story of the Prophet Yusuf (as) is not suitable to justify participation in Western governments, parties or parliaments, and this for several reasons, two of which we want to explain in detail: 1. In the basic doctrine of Islamic law (Usul Al-Fiqh) it has been established that the jurisprudence of pre-Islamic revelation is not a jurisprudence for us. The evidence for this is the following statement by Allah: And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ. (5;48) The few scholars who have allowed earlier prophets and scriptures to be obeyed have added “what has not been annulled (by Islamic jurisprudence)”. Accordingly, their principle is: “The revealed rights of the peoples before us (Muslims ) is also right for us as long as it has not been annulled (by Islamic law). " Legal evidence from the Qur'an and Sunna has already been presented earlier, which declared government to be forbidden according to something other than the revelation of Allah. For this reason alone, the story of the prophet Yusuf (as), who, according to their assertion, would have ruled according to the laws of Kufr, is not suitable as evidence to justify our participation in Kufr governments, since according to their principle this action is based on an earlier one Revelation was clearly canceled by the Islamic 2. If we declare the revealed right of the peoples to be right before us as well - as is attempted in the case of Yusuf (as) - then we should also allow prostration in front of a person, as was the case in Yusuf's law . Allah Most High says: 12.100. And he placed his parents on the dais and they fell down before him prostrate, and he said: O my father! This is the interpretation of my dream of old. My Lord hath made it true, and He hath shown me kindness, since He took me out of the prison and hath brought you from the desert after Satan had made strife between me and my brethren. Lo! my Lord is tender unto whom He will. He is the Knower, the Wise. If it is now said that this is not allowed in our faith, since the following report is narrated from Abdullah IbnAbi Aufa: When Mu'ath returned from Syria, he prostrated himself before the Prophet (s.) and he forbade it. If this hadith is now sufficient to make a declarable course of action from Yusuf's law - namely prostration before a person - invalid for us, then not dozen of ayats and hadiths are sufficient to rule according to something other than the revelation of Allah or forbid participation in it? 5.49. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires, but beware of them lest they seduce thee from some part of that which Allah hath revealed unto thee. And if they turn away, then know that Allah ' s will is to smite them for some sin of theirs. Lo! many of mankind are evil livers.

[@saqibimran9342]

@@abdulmalikmcgill6221 they are wobblers mate

[@BIGPIMPIN16]

Fear Allah, The person posting this and the answers. This is misleading the ummah. Our state of weakness does not constitute shirk.

[@IslamOnDemand]

What a narrow-minded and simplistic approach. Subhan' Allah! But you are entitled to your opinion.

[@mikayilbayramov8980]

Yusuf (a.s) did not command like adultry is halal, gambling is halal, alcohol is halal or other things. All the time these scholars compare today's democracy systems to Yusuf (a.s). All prophets told their people what they were commanded by Allah. And also we do not have an authentic proof that shows us Aziz was not following Yusuf's rules related to Allah's commands.

[@khalifahonearth5945]

Voting is brought forth by a Secular State. A Secular State separates Allah (God) from Law and Government. How and why would you want to be a part of this Godlessness? If you really think you can make a difference by voting then you are gullible for trusting such Godless People. Whether you vote or not the people behind the current who are in “high power” will be the ones and only ones making decisions and Not you “the People”! Do not enter in their Godless system of voting but if you do you should know it is Sheikh. Whether you know you’re committing Sheikh or you unknowingly commit Sheikh, Sheikh is still Sheikh and if you die in a state of Sheikh; there is no forgiveness for it. Islam has a Law. Islam has a Government. Islam submits to Allah as the Sovereign, the One who possesses Supreme Power and Authority, the Law giver Not only One who gives Law but his Law is supreme Law. This system in Islam is called “Khalifah”!

[@derkorrekte4339]

This men didn’t understand that Yusuf Alaihissalam was ruling with the rules of Allah!

[@IslamOnDemand]

The shahadah (testimony of faith) is always recited in Arabic, in the same way the prayers are always recited in Arabic. Once the Arabic shahadah is said in public among the Muslim community you're officially Muslim. The translation is not necessary but if you like you can say "There is no god but God" after you say the Arabic. In Islam intention is EVERYTHING and the intention and purpose of the shahadah is to bear witness to the UNITY of the Creator, not the NAME of the Creator. (Continued)

[@ghauidflixanloqami]

May you be cursed for the lies you spread

[@abdulmalikmcgill6221]

He says, "You NEED to engage in poiltical process" aoothubillah

[@ZaydDepaor]

Yes as he is a brainless, ignorant mushrik...the only siyaasah [politics] the Muslim has been commanded to engage in is commanding ma'roof, forbidding munkar, giving naseehah to the Muslim Islamic rulers (who apply shariah only, i.e. the khuklafaa' and their appointed umaraa' etc) and the Muslim public, listening and obeying to the khaleefah, giving bayah to him...and if the system does not exist to establish and call to it etc...i.e. the Islamic political actions of changing society to the Islamic system and looking after the affairs of the Muslims, leading society, calling the kuffar to the Islamic belief and system etc.

[@IslamOnDemand]

The people who told you to say "Allah" I'm sure have the best intentions. For some Muslims saying "God" can be disconcerting for many reasons, probably more emotional than anything. But those Muslims also need to recognize that for converts saying "Allah" can likewise be disconcerting, INITIALLY. I'm a convert so I understand this dilemma. Try not to put too much stock into it. The shahadah is the most important pillar but if your intention is clear, pure & correct that is what matters the most.

[@fightermma]

Even the Pharaoh Said the shahada but it didn't save him. Stop being an idiot and misguiding people you fasiq.

[@user-in8oh1br6b]

@@fightermma He didn't say actually. But when he was about to Jibreal alaihissalam put sand in his mouth. Allahu A'alim

[@Qurankeywords]

Also, using Yusuf AH example is hilariously and shows this man has never read the Bible or considered the logic of what he is staying. Alhamdodillah, Allah sWT did establish Yusuf AH in Egypt and gave him a great position. But! Who came first Yusuf or Musa? Yusuf. What was the state of the decedents of Yusuf AH and the Bani Israel by the time Musa AH came as a prophet? Were they happy participating members of society? No they were slaves. Quran has to be read as whole Mr. Scholar man. I'm not a scholar and I know this. Also, Musa AH brought rules to his people, should we follow those rules too? Or aren't we just supposed to follow Quran and Sunnah? Allah SWT states in the Quran Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by God in any way,...(3:28) now there are many interpretations of this ayah but I believe it is applicable here. you say vote so you can get some kind of protection or favor in this nation. Buddy, only Allah can help. Not some old men and women in a senate, or congress or court. Look at how they argue about what kind of restrooms people can use. You think they are a good source of help? Come on dude. Just live in a democracy, be a good muslims, pay your taxes as required, dont break any laws and in regards to voting or campaigning say no politely

[@mohammadzafar]

@hbk711x - youre talking about a man killed without a trial. and clearly forgetting the hadith about giving excuses to mjslim brothers. dont make judgements on things you dont know much about. peace

[@IslamOnDemand]

Technically you are supposed to say "There is no ilah (deity) but Allah". But at this point we are dealing with semantics and, to be honest, it's a bit absurd. If you believe in One God without partners, sons, daughters, etc. and you believe that Muhammad is the last prophet of God, then say the shahadah in Arabic (and English if you like) and you've completed your first pillar and entered Islam.

[@Lovelylittlehijabi]

He was saying that if a convert is in a situation where they can not pray due to family or friends not knowing about the conversion and if the convert is afraid to tell do to what ever circumstances then do what you got to do to pray.

[@mbk1054]

Assalamu Aleykum. To anyone here, who called him Kafir. In Saheeh al-Bukhaari (6104) and Saheeh Muslim(60) it is narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If a man declares his brother to be a kaafir, it will apply to one of them.” According to another report: “Either it is as he said, otherwise it will come back to him.”

[@zaatayaa]

Abu Qital lol, are u huzaifah? how do u know he is munafeeq? and when he sells his religion?

[@TheYereke]

Zaata Yamni , perhaps he gets revelations.

[@ZaydDepaor]

Yes and he maybe your brother, but he isn't a brother of a Muslim as he is a clear mushrik according to his open beliefs in democracy and shirk. Making takfeer and baraa' from clear mushrikeen is part of the beliefs of Islam, otherwise you destroy Islam by calling fake Islam the real Islam. It is only when the reality is not known or the hukm is not known that takfeer should not be made or that the individual has excuses of not knowing reality, or being mad etc...

[@IslamOnDemand]

You're attempting to discredit the imam by ripping this quote out of context. The video clip you're referring to is this one: watch?v=mPB6p9LoHnk Did you watch the WHOLE clip? He said two times this fatwah is NOT for the entire community. That it was given to a specific sister so she could maintain her faith in her EARLY years of Islam. As a convert I can relate. Can you? The point is that the fiqh is flexible for extenuating circumstances. What he's recommending is the exception not the rule.

[@ByChoiceMuslim]

How extensively have you studied this subject compared to both of these speakers?

[@rifraf6135]

Who?

[@IslamOnDemand]

What city and country do you live in? Is there a Muslim community near you?

[@bilalmarkis5204]

The only correct basis for Muslims is to take the divine guidance of Allah (swt) as the only criterion to evaluate and undertake any action related to voting! إِنِ الْحُكْمُ إِلاَّ لِلّهِ أَمَرَ أَلاَّ تَعْبُدُواْ إِلاَّ إِيَّاهُ ذَلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ وَلَـكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لاَ يَعْلَمُونَ “Indeed legislation (ruling, judgment, command) is only for Allah; He has commanded that you shall not serve none but Him; this is the right Deen, but most people do not know.” [12:40] أَمْ لَهُمْ شُرَكَاء شَرَعُوا لَهُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا لَمْ يَأْذَن بِهِ اللَّهُ “Or have they partners (to Allah) making lawful for them in the Deen, which Allah has not allowed?” [42:21]

[@ZaydDepaor]

and there are many other ayaat that affirm that too, from both the makkan and madinan periods of revelation. Man-made law, democracy and secularism are clear kufr and shirk and the very opposite of the Islam, the message of the Quran and the prophets.

[@IslamOnDemand]

Why can't you disagree respectfully and politely? Need I convey the numerous ahadith about good, clean speech?

[@khantk2732]

Fully agree.

[@jojomojo1947]

Salam wa alekom. It's very simple if you use the Quran and Sunnah. If you vote for someone and that person kills 1 person, you will take part of the blame when you stand in front of Allah alone. The prophet said that where ever there is bloodshed, Qabil takes part of the blood/sin because he was the first to kill. " But I had good intentions " , you put your trust and faith in one who is non Muslim? Already God told you that the jews and Christians will never be pleased with you ( Muslims) until you follow their religion ( Baqarah ). Having good intentions is not an excuse to comit bad. " A no vote is a vote"..in the eyes of man thats true, but In the eyes of Allah its not. Staying away from promoting a law besides the truth is not a solution. We stay away from it fearing Allah. Just ask yourself this one question " If the person you voted for killed one person, will you be accountable?"

[@IslamOnDemand]

I did not delete it. I thought you deleted it.

[@IslamOnDemand]

Prophet Muhammad (P) rejected the Quraish's offer because it contained the condition that he had to give up preaching the message of Islam. Context, please!

[@abdurrahmanalmuwahhid7343]

This guy is paid to preach democracy.

[@allenhass4054]

How do you know he got paid ? Do you know that ? لماذا تجادل بما لا تعلم ، الا تخاف الله ؟

[@roleplayinggamer795]

Abu bakr was elected democratically

[@anamulkabir6444]

U sir are a fool of the highest category! Check ur own self before u judge others

[@user-rj8oj7bl2n]

​@allenhass4054 Cia supporter aren't you?

[@user-vm1xm1ch7p]

You need proof before accusing someone

[@AlBrawyMedia]

ISLAMICHISTORYTUBE masha'Allah as if you read my mind! Totally with you here in this topic. What average people need to study is : about Prophet Yusuf (as) and his divine message by reading and studying comprehensively these verses Quran Surat Yusuf 12:21 and 22! Allah is the one who is assigning him to rule after he was given knowledge and wisdom, he was also given kingdom to rule with justice, by who though?! Allah جلا جلاله

[@MoustafaSabry]

Well if Islamically it is permissible then it doesn't mean that it is a good thing to vote, simply because of the many flaws, contradictions and fallacies that make up democracy. It annoys me when people brand others as sinful or practicing shirk for participating in democracy, but at the same time anyone that defends democracy needs to wake up to the reality of democracy. You might say as long as it is around we should vote, but your just propping up and prolonging the system.

[@ZaydDepaor]

Well if it annoys you, then you are a mushrik like these fake scholars. There is no doubt at all that democracy is shirk. Only Allah has the right to make laws and define right and wrong, and if someone doesn't reject taaghoot they are not Muslim. You think Allah commands us to give life and support the kufr system and man-made law when Allah sent the Quran and sunnah to be followed and told us to give bayah to khaleefah and organize the shariah system under him? Democracy makes every evil, harma and kufr permissible. Islam is the opposite of democracy, secularism is the opposite of Islam. Islam means submission to guidance, will and laws of Allah in all issues, not submission to man-made law and man-made ideology. There is no excuse of ignorance in the failure to reject taaghoot and man-made law, its meaning is in the shahaadah itself. Making takfeer and baraa from the clear mushrikeen is part of belief and the obligations from belief, otherwise we become one of them.

[@Mohammad_Qais]

Salama alaykum brother,i just wanna say you made a great point that even if were to participate it we are accepting the system and it would lead to prolonging it. Nice point brother Btw how are you? I think i am so late. Idk if you'll even read this. May Allah keep us firm on our deen❤

[@sarahanderson9068]

the aziz was a muslim and he ruled by shariah

[@awaqar2]

I watched a movie on yusuf a.s. made by iran. In it, the ruler became muslim, but I am not sure if that is true.

[@ctraltdel3558]

@@awaqar2 The Iranian version has some falsehood because it has rafidi influence and apart from that, it is a movie that was meant for entertainment. If you want information about the anbiyah, you look to the Quran and Sunnah.

[@rteetfghhv3785]

his eman is not mentioned in the Quran u should trust the book of Allah instead of stupid drama

[@ctraltdel3558]

@mo ali Not a phobia more like a hate for ignorance and shirk.

[@orthodoc234]

Our Shari'ah is different from Yusuf's (alaih salam)

[@tarana9329]

Intelligent man masha Allah.

[@ZaydDepaor]

they are ignorant kuffaar, only elevated as the ummah is in mass kufr, shirk and ignorance in the worst and most ignorant period of Islamic history.

[@tawheedfirst861]

Indeed, ALLAH does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with ALLAH has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin. Surah An-Nisa' Verse 48

[@Runnable19]

6:123 And thus We have placed within every city the greatest of its criminals to conspire therein. But they conspire not except against themselves, and they perceive [it] not. When I'm not sure about some type of food, if it is is haram or hala I simply don't eat it. I'm not sure if it is hala or haram to vote, so I simply don't vote.

[@fightermma]

It's haram to vote. All man made laws are haram.

[@IslamOnDemand]

I think I see your logic. You're saying if Allah=God, why can't you just say "There is no Allah but Allah"? Because Allah does NOT completely equal God because "Allah" is also the personal name of God. So it would not be appropriate to say "There is no Allah but Allah". If you want to say the right thing and please Allah, simply do and say what Prophet Muhammad (P) did and said. He said "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of God" (in Arabic).

[@going2sleep]

That fatwa was given to a sister in certain circumstances. Her life was at stake and her livelihood due to her conversion. Why are you creating fitin in the community? What good will it cause? Just leave scholarly fatawa to the scholars. It is good for the community and your afterlife.

[@KaiStrohscher]

You are not allowed to judge what is shirk or not. First you need to define what democracy is.

[@safwanshahriar4108]

Democracy is when you give the people their rights to choose their representative regardless of muslim or non-muslim. They may elect someone who may change the laws of Allah. That is kufr. And the people will have committed shirk.

[@muratkaya4118]

Democracy is a set of laws which makes what Allah made lawful unlawful and unlawful lawful by voting your encouraging this system and being part of it. 9:31 They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilah (God - Allah) La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)."

[@TheYereke]

What country passport do you hold? Is it islamic? if not are you then a mushric who supports mushriks?

[@serfirazkarakas8485]

@@TheYereke what are you talking about?

[@aiozba]

@@TheYereke Pasport you should have as the system force you to have , but no one force to go vote

[@TheYereke]

G.A , if you have decided that your country government is taghut, then it is haram for you to live under that government, because Allah forbids to go to taghut. And nobody can force you to go to taghut. So leave the country otherwise you are the one who goes to taghut by his own will. Nobody force you to live under that government. You people are idiots. People like you will never be happy with their governments. Even if there will be a Muslim ruler ruling by Quran and Hadith you will run away from him and call him taghut. When Allah decides to destroy a religious country He gathers people like you and they start fighting with each other and each party claiming that its sharia is correct. After you destroy or weaken each other then your enemies establish their ruling upon you. History is evidence.

[@MrSlosky]

Omar, Can you please provide evidence that Yusuf A.S went against the rullings of Allah, cause for me that looks like you are saying Yusuf A.S did it we can but how can we say he went against allah's rullings when God is the Sole Ruler? we just know he was there but we do not know how on what type of poltician he was? was there anything against allah's rulling such as Intrests or anything that went against gods rulling at that time?

[@IbrahimHassan-fp4ht]

This liberal imam is confused . The zandiqa pro democracy use this to deceive Muslims Scholars have discussed the issue of Yusuf (as) Check it up.

[@clausvanhelsing7808]

This guy is giving a Moderate chocolate spin on it........

[@abdulgamiedabderoef8628]

ASLM...Ya Sheigh..just a question...an honest question...if the Sahaba Rad was alive today would they support or vote a system other than Islam

[@IslamOnDemand]

Ameen. Now that's the broader vision we need to hear more of! Jazak Allah Khair!

[@AM-vw7dg]

My understanding is that where the early Muslims went, Allah placed them in ruling power, this is not the case in the non believing lands. Also, the case of making hijra from non believing lands to believing lands needs to be addressed. Since when do Muslims select non believers to rule over them

[@ZaydDepaor]

Indeed the Quran made clear that not only should the taaghoot be rejected and man-made law be rejected but also that it is prohibited to be under the authority of the kuffaar, the various ayaat explicitly told us not to follow and obey them and that following them would be kufr.

[@XAbdr]

the comments here show that Islam is no inoculation against stupidity. Basic Islam says ONLY ALLAH says what's haram. Can some of you haters please show me the explicit texts that forbids voting?

[@holdshiftt2run308]

Gregory Abdur Rahman Allah shares his legislation with no one. Also stop insulting Malcolm X unlike you, he wanted Islam, not voting.

[@XAbdr]

HoldShiftt2Run Malcolm X had a speech....hmmmm...I think it was called "THE BALLOT OR THE BULLET." Please don't say ignorant things about black history without bothering to know what you are talking about. This is really about Islam. if you live in West, your money goes to "kuffar" government and the only way to not support the kuffar government in the West is to not live in the West...so when ya movin bruh?

[@holdshiftt2run308]

Gregory Abdur Rahman Malcolm X may be part of Black history, but this is not about black history. You should listen to his speeches about Islam. I don't live in the west. How can you make that assumption without even knowing me?

[@XAbdr]

HoldShiftt2Run you brought up Brother Malcolm not me. You are not making sense I should only listen when Malcolm X made speeches about Islam? You don't know much about Malcolm X. Most of his life he was not a true Muslim. In the end, he was killed because he embraced true Islam. At the time, he was organizing two groups to influence the government to get better treatment for black people...and this was AFTER his hajj. You obviously don't know about Malcolm and that's fine. I ask you, please let's use Islamic rules to discuss Islam. The haram has to be explicit. Can you show me where in Sahih Hadeeth or the Quran where voting is haram? Did you know that six sahaba voted and that is how Uthman became caliph? Were they doing haram?

[@XAbdr]

***** who told you that Islam is for intolerant people who openly curse?

[@IslamOnDemand]

My only interest at this point is to hear your rebuttal of my previous comment. Then if our discussion NATURALLY proceeds to more monumental proclamations so be it.

[@ottorumf2719]

the aziz was a muslims according to tabari

[@abdelbaasit1]

So the proper, perhaps more accurate translation of this "Shahaadah" (Testimony of faith) that makes someone a Muslim (someone who surrenders to & is grateful to their Creator by worshiping Him alone), would be as follows: أَشْهَدُ أَن لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللهُ "I bear witness (or testify) that there is no true "ilaah" ("god") in reality, except "Allaah" (the One & Only Creator/God of all that exists)."

[@IslamOnDemand]

The scholars have differed on the matter of voting. Stop making it a black-and-white issue.

[@IIIIKaiserIIII]

I live in a western democracy. But I wan't to vote. I don't want to lose my right to practise my religion. If we as a muslim community stop voting we will lose are rights. I can't understand why it is haram.

[@zaatayaa]

Hieillua 100% agree :)

[@Qurankeywords]

Who gives the right to believe? The founding fathers of America, understood the ridiculousness of trying to control who believed what. So they allowed all religions to be practiced. Go read some of Thomas Jefferson's writings on this matter. If America revoked the right to practice islam, theyd have to amend the constitution. That means all religious parties could be affected. So let them vote and deal with it. In the Quran Allah sWT makes it clear that the Earth is an expanse and we can move to a place where we can worship Him

[@OSAUL]

He doesn't understand politics he is pragmatic guy accepting status quo.

[@ZaydDepaor]

he doesn't understand the basic beliefs of Islam, he is a mushrik.

[@Lovelylittlehijabi]

Its the exception not the rule.

[@aursunao7431]

Wow...Completely forgetting that the Qur'an came to establish the sovereignty of ALLAH SWT on this earth.May Allah open our hearts to recognizing and accepting the truth,however bitter.Aameen

[@checkmate5338]

right, there is confusion over what the word "God" means. here, watch this video for clarification: watch?v=LsSm-_I5ZS0

[@ACEAFG]

But in the time of Youssef a there was no sharia what are you talikng about

[@MoustafaSabry]

You have shown that democracy doesn't work, Ron Paul is probably the closest thing in America to a sensible politician, but he never comes close to becoming President. In any case, if you were presented with such a vote, and seeing as it is permissible to vote in the west (ie the system itself is not permissible to implement), then yes vote for Ron Paul for the sake of the Muslims, not democracy. But when you are presented with Obama and Romney, then why help support the system for no benefit?

[@drwahid899]

I want to be a diplomat.Is it permissible?

[@muhammadinamrehman1469]

I think muslims should devote their efforts to restore khilafah in any country of the world, rather than wasting their time and energies in this democratic system which is a hurdle in establishing deen of Allah

[@tripledose4life726]

Out of most of the comments I’ve read , this is the most sensible.

[@rifraf6135]

Why is everyone writing random hateful comments? One person writes a comment "You are wrong, liar, etc" but who? I am so confused. Is Omar Suleiman saying wrong or what? Someone explain because the comment section isn't helping.

[@khalidkhan0011]

Rafiur Rahman/RifRaf brother what is halal and what is Haram is already decided by Allah and his Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him 1400 years ago and Islam is not only confined to ibadaah but a complete guidance for mankind it covers politics economics decision between right and wrong and punishment for the wrong all is there in Quran and sunnah in opposite of Islam there is a democracy in which legal and illegal means halal and Haram will be decided by the majority which is considered shirk

[@rifraf6135]

@@khalidkhan0011 jazakallahu khairan brother. Thank you for your excellent detailed reply. I understand more now. So voting is haram because it can cause and promote haram things. Thank you for the help.

[@tripledose4life726]

khalid khan ok brother so where are you from, if you don’t mind me asking.

[@khalidkhan0011]

Tripledose 4life Afghanistan

[@tripledose4life726]

khalid khan Ohh ok brother, but I have a question regards to halal and haram, in Afghanistan don’t they use paper currency, why aren’t they using Dinar it dirham, I’m not asking this to start an argument, this is a genuine question.

[@adomez8053]

What a bad example with yusuf a.s . Even if it would be like he said (what is not true like other people explained) , His actions would be abrogated with verses like 5;44 . Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah ] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers.

[@yahyamoro]

The same fellow talking was quoted by a Dallas Texas newspaper saying Muslims should reach out to the Homosexual community ...

[@checkmate5338]

If Abu Lahab and Abu Talib are the only 2 candidates running for president, and you had to vote for 1, who would you pick? or would you not vote because it's not Sunnah.

[@gloryjudgement7563]

Look guys, there is iktilaf on this issue (difference of opinions), so don’t just listen to this video only. Do your research. Follow the opinion that is stronger and sticks to the Quran/Sunnah

[@ZaydDepaor]

There is no shara'ee ikhtilaaf on voting for man-made law, it is clear shirk and kufr and anyone who doubts it is a kaafir. Not every difference under the banner of Islam is valid, and differing from clear matters is kufr, especially when it is foundational to the meaning of shahaadah and Islam itself.

[@iloveislam19869]

Being Muslims we should obey the laws of ALLAH and his Prophet Muhammad Sallellahu Alaihiwasallam , voting is kufr ALLAH knows

[@trthemaverick981]

How can you say that?? Do you have any proof in the Quran.

[@trthemaverick981]

@J Knox ohh middle eastern dictators have washed your brain.😅

[@hamzaalmaghrebi8613]

Be careful of where you research Islamic concepts and rulings This video is a one way ticket to jahannam Allah is the only legislator

[@rteetfghhv3785]

u salafi idiot

[@lyrickoner]

Wallahi you have spoken the truth.

[@davooddhar]

Yes brother

[@TheYereke]

aaron khan , which Arabic word do they translate as legislate?

[@dalmar5567]

Why Blame salafi. Some salafi Sheikh said voting is not haram.

[@zyloo998]

The comments on here are absolutely shambolic, don’t ridicule the man if you don’t agree then simply keep that to yourselves, this is a controversial issue so just because he says something different then there’s no need to scold him. This is what makes the Muslims look bad!

[@Lapidatus]

Sheikh bin Baz says it is permissible to participate in a parliament if you want endorse Shariah. Sheikh ibn Uthaymeen states that it is obligatory to participate in parliament to stop the munker and to enjoy the good. >> Source: islamqa.info/en/107166 I don't understand how people can live in a country and simply accept all the rulings which the government bestows upon them and than they say that you are a kafir for wanting the system to change. Ya Allah, guide the Ummah on Your straight path and give it a good intellectual power. Amin.

[@___Truth___]

+Abu Qital So by what your saying, sharia cant be established by the muslim people it can only be established through domination and authoritarian/totalitarian dictatorship like movements. How does that enjoy peace between muslims who do not want to kill each other? Is your reality so delusional that you think any group of people would freely accept being oppressed? Which by the way is what essentially authoritarian and totalitarian or even oligarchic societies are based on. I wouldnt expect you to reply to these points anyways.

[@___Truth___]

You literally said nothing.

[@abdurrahmangunal4589]

Wrong Yusuf AS don't give his vote. Giving vote iş different than participation in governments thats not against The rules of Allah. You are wrong completely wrong

[@nabilelshukri]

Have you ever asked yourself what person with any logic would vote for Donald Trump? How many of us can’t wait until election so we can vote him out? How many of us when we are told about the flaws of whatever Democrat candidate we voted for have, our answer would be “I chose the lesser evil”? How many of us ask ourselves, am I making a rational or emotional choice? Is it worst to have difficulty practicing your faith or have no faith to practice? Once you answer all theses questions here is the reality: What if you were told your place of worship must hold gay marriage ceremonies if any member wants to do so and public schools and faith base schools are obligated to integrate homosexuality and lgbt believes such as “that sex is not the determination of gender” therefore children should be gender neutral and they have to choose whether they are male, female, they, them, z, or whatever gender out of the 70 plus out there now”. If this isn’t implemented your religious preschool and upper grades will not receive any government funds or vouchers or be accredited for that matter. LGBT will be the equivalent to discriminating based on color, race, and religion. If you think this is not happening, look again. Which is the lesser evil?

[@ZaydDepaor]

Voting for anyone is shirk and kufr, only Allah can makes laws and Islam has its own system we are supposed to be establishing, building and following. Biden voted for the Iraq war, Trump opposed it. Biden is an abortion cheerleading psychopath, Trump did more against abortion than any AMerican president. Biden wants children to be groomed with homosexuality and transgender, Trump opposes that. Biden wants men to be called women, Trump opposes that. Trump lowered taxes and regulations more than any president, that is better so you give taaghoot less money and have more money to spend on Islamic causes. Biden supports the war in Ukraine and spending billions of dollars on it, Trump wants to end the war with peace agreement immediately. Yes, Trump, like all American presidents is a slave of Israel...but Biden is an even bigger cheerleader of Israel saying "If Israel had not existed we would have to have created it (i.e. to police the Muslim world and keep it oppressed)..." You should reflect on why the oligarchy and Deep State have targeted Trump, Muslims don't vote but certainly should not be favouring the much more corrupt and evil Democrat party and Biden over Trump like blind indoctrinated slaves.

[@IslamOnDemand]

Your comment contributes nothing to this discussion. What is your point?

[@AbdulAleem213]

هو جاهل جد جد جد!!!!!! May Allah grant this individual knowledge of the correct manhaj and aqidah or break his back!!! Ameen

[@mujahidaAlbania2]

Democracy is a system that is contrary to Islam, because it gives the power of legislation to the people or to those who represent them (such as members of Parliament). Based on that, in democracy legislative authority is given to someone other than Allah, may He be exalted; rather it is given to the people and their deputies, and what matters is not their consensus but the majority. Thus what the majority agree upon becomes laws that are binding on the nation, even if it is contrary to common sense, religious teaching or reason. In these systems legislation has been promulgated allowing abortion, same-sex marriage and usurious interest (riba); the rulings of sharee‘ah have been abolished; and fornication/adultery and the drinking of alcohol are permitted. In fact this system is at war with Islam and its followers. Allah, may He be exalted, has told us in the His Book that legislative authority belongs to Him alone, and that He is the wisest of those who issue rulings and judge. He has forbidden the association of anyone with Him in His authority, and no one is better than Him in ruling. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “So the judgement is only with Allah, the Most High, the Most Great!” [Ghaafir 40:12] “The command (or the judgement) is for none but Allah. He has commanded that you worship none but Him (i.e. His Monotheism), that is the (true) straight religion, but most men know not” [Yoosuf 12:40] “Is not Allah the Best of judges?” [at-Teen 95:8] “Say: ‘Allah knows best how long they stayed. With Him is (the knowledge of) the unseen of the heavens and the earth. How clearly He sees, and hears (everything)! They have no Walee (Helper, Disposer of affairs, Protector, etc.) other than Him, and He makes none to share in His Decision and His Rule’” [al-Kahf 18:26] “Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance? And who is better in judgement than Allah for a people who have firm Faith?” [al-Maa’idah 5:50].

[@muslimgiga]

LOL that boy got OWNED mashallah

[@patriotickhan3127]

In india this thing clear in 1947...

[@9kuuby9]

Wow misguidance among the scholars is immense. First of all the azziz in the time of Yusuf alayhi salam was not a MUSHRIK! Do you Think Allah (high is he) mentions someone in his book as a righteous king while being a mushrik? where's the justice in that? This shows the lack of basic knowledge and few cents of intelligence these scholars have today! Take the Qoran and Sunnah and start reading! Don't directly go learn the books of the scholars, because they can be right and or wrong! Firaun belongs to a different kind of people who hated the people of al azziz, and after they won (war), they enslaved the jews living their because they used to be good towards the people of al azziz. 2 prophets Jackob and Yusuf lived among the mushrikeen? Are you kidding me! Why then did Musa have to confront Firaun? because of the Shrik! and the transgression!, Allah (high is he) doesn't tolerate that! they could not have been Polytheists! Because Musa made Hijra and that's what all the Believers should do when at least the majority of the land is ruled by kufr and Shirk. Let alone a prophet of Allah (high is he).

[@rteetfghhv3785]

9kuuby9 u r talking the langauge of the khawarij and u dont even know it and u r slandering muslim scholars shame on u

[@Therock151214]

You are doing takfeer on scholar? Are you feeling okay?

[@fightermma]

@@Therock151214 Learn the difference between a student of knowledge and a scholar. The guys in the videos are not scholars.

[@ahmedibnmahmud4380]

Ilil hukmu illa lillah. They offered many things to our prophet and he never except. This guy is misguiding people

[@robs3317]

You are sayiing it is halal to vote for non-Muslims who dont want Islamic law ? before going outwards the Muslims need to go inwards..with no inner change outer change will not happen...we are people of the aakhirah and this dunya is a prison for the true believers..so much waffle for a dunya which has not worth and no meaning in eyes of the ahlullah

[@arieswais]

Then dont use any non muslim resources and live in the caves since you are the people of akhira.

[@iloveislam19869]

@@arieswais all resources belongs to ALLAH , We Muslims has to follow Commands of ALLAH , do you think non Muslims created resources ? If Whole world get together to create source they can't

[@SulaimanamialuS]

A very simple question to all the people who say voting is Haram: If a popular Western party proposes to outlaw mosques, nullify Muslim marriages, and just make Muslim life difficult... And Muslims are the swing vote, what do you do? Do you go "Voting is haram" and let them win? Or do you vote them out by choosing a secular party? Use your common sense, because Allah SWT likes those who think. At least that is literally in the Quran...

[@___Truth___]

Captain, your a idiot in psychosis.

[@___Truth___]

Your not Allah to call someone a kafir. Dont let your kibr blind you.

[@___Truth___]

I responded with facts also. Only Allah can judge someone to actually be a kafir, the ones that associate themselves with such a position are in a state of kibr.

[@colonelhapablap9544]

The answer is simple u do not vote but u make hijrah and move to a Muslim land...and by the way it is makruh or shunned upon for a Muslim to plan to live his whole life in a kuffar country, rather it is recommended to go there for short term plans like education, health or a short term business but not plan to live there for 50 years raise kids for fear of fitnah like voting and homosexuality and losing ur deen and so on...

[@colonelhapablap9544]

learn your deen

[@LostThug13]

#Deviants

[@user-mw8ju1mq6b]

VERY INTERESTING ARGUMENT Qur’an mentions four possibilities to explain how something was created or came into being or existence: Created by nothing:- “or were they created by nothing?” Self-created:- “or were they the creators of themselves?” Created by something created:- “or did they create the heavens and the Earth?”, which implies a created thing being ultimately created by something else created. Created by something uncreated:- “Rather, they are not certain”, implying that the denial of God is baseless, and therefore the statement implies that there is an uncreated creator. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

[@sadking11]

Common sense tells us to vote for the greater good, as there are no Islamic candidates at the moment. At the end of the day, either Obama or Romney is going to become president so why not vote for the one that gives us more freedom as Muslims? Do you not want to be able to practice your faith to the fullest extent?

[@moosakhan8260]

3:06 not a conflict, gen0cide* afraid to say the right word?

[@boetak837]

YUSUF A.S did not participate in shirk but he contributed shariah into what they were doing ..if you are not contributing anything good aren't you in a sense contributing to more fitnah

[@hassandiallo5326]

Democracy means the rule by the people, for the people, to the people ( the greatest shirk), Quran 6:116, Quran 18:26, Quran 12:76, Quran 42:21, Quran 45:23, Quran 51:56, Islam means the rule by Allah, for Allah, to Allah ( greatest tauheed).

[@havanadaurcy1321]

Yeah, how's the Middle East going since Allah's prophet is ignored? You may not like democracy but Muslim politicians are continuing to say why are you ignoring Hadiths?

[@hassandiallo5326]

@@havanadaurcy1321 Honestly i did not understand your point.

[@mayj4877]

​@@havanadaurcy1321if it is in the Qur'an clearly why you need hadist?

[@furidamusan]

5:44

[@juniork001]

Beloved prophet warned against such Ulamas that they will be the worst pipo in his ummah in the end times partly coz of misleading muslims.secular Voting is haram period

[@TevhidDavasi01]

Voting is schirk subhanallah . Youre giving them the right to make laws. Yusuf as had the right to do whatever he wants 😂😂 subhanallah you re a tağut

[@abdelbaasit1]

ABU TALIB =) My vote would def. be for him, and I'm sure most Muslims would vote for him... maybe a few would just back out & not vote for either. How much love and support Abu Talib showed for Islam and Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم!! Yes, he died on disbelief etc... but if here a candidate running for president I have no doubts in my mind that Most of the ummah would vote for him.. But is there anyone that even remotely compares to him today? ,,,,someone sympathetic to muslims

[@ismailcassoo]

Get out of the box mentality, the reason the Prophet (Salallahu alaihi was sallam) did not accept the position, was because of the condition attached to it, and the reason was to renounce all that HE (Salallahu alaihi was sallam) was preaching (dawa) ....For people of weak Imaan, best stay out of politics, because you are the ones that will sell our Deen.

[@holdshiftt2run308]

Well I see what it has come down to. Omar Suleiman has gone far enough to help ahlul bidah members like Suhaihb Webb.

[@chogorisufi]

Sounds like br.abikani is not living in United States. Or if they are then they have sheltered themselves and are oppressing themselves against the rights of themselves and their families by not participating in the electoral process. Our children are growing up in this country, do you want to shelter them from being the future leaders and also voice the majority muslim view in the government institution. May Allah guide you on the teaching of the beloved prophet of peace (RSAW)!

[@tawheedfirst861]

You worship not besides Him except [mere] names you have named them, you and your fathers, for which Allah has sent down no authority. Legislation is not but for Allah. He has commanded that you worship not except Him. That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know. [12] Yusuf : 40 Say, "Allah is most knowing of how long they remained. He has [knowledge of] the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and the earth. How Seeing is He and how Hearing! They have not besides Him any protector, and He shares not His legislation with anyone." [18] Al-Kahf : 26 Say, "Indeed, I am on clear evidence from my Lord, and you have denied it. I do not have that for which you are impatient. The decision is only for Allah. He relates the truth, and He is the best of deciders." [6] Al-An'am : 57 And judge, [O Muhammad], between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations and beware of them, lest they tempt you away from some of what Allah has revealed to you. And if they turn away - then know that Allah only intends to afflict them with some of their [own] sins. And indeed, many among the people are defiantly disobedient. [5] Al-Ma'ida : 49 Then is it the judgement of [the time of] ignorance they desire? But who is better than Allah in judgement for a people who are certain [in faith]. [5] Al-Ma'ida : 50 And leave what is apparent of sin and what is concealed thereof. Indeed, those who earn [blame for] sin will be recompensed for that which they used to commit. [6] Al-An'am : 120 And do not eat of that upon which the name of Allah has not been mentioned, for indeed, it is grave disobedience. And indeed do the devils inspire their allies [among men] to dispute with you. And if you were to obey them, indeed, you would be associators [of others with Him]. [6] Al-An'am : 121

[@syedmaricar9946]

Political process is evildoers of today but it's evil of today.

[@mamekrammers8193]

Nope.. we give chance to fiat currency over gold n silver which is haram to be legal tender by IMF, and look at us now... Surah al-khaf there in the quran for a purpose. We have choice to make as test on this world, if not as a community, then so be it we parted as individual.

[@user-in8oh1br6b]

Exactly, the System has not covered up the Entire Dunya. Thousands and Thousands of places exist where the Virus hasn't even affected! Also in places like K.L(Kuala Lumpur) many Muslims living without being a Corporate Slave, not engaging in Paper Currency Transaction, Homeschooling and the only thing do is pay tax which is a Nesessity so it Overwrites Prohibition. In Sha Allah I'm too gonna be like the People of Cave. May Allah subahanu watala'a Forgive and have Mercy on my Ummah. Aameen:)

[@hamzarezai3210]

We have an own Sharia. So we have to follow the Sharia of our time and Not the Sharia of Yusuf as!

[@hamzarezai3210]

Also Allah swt says in sure yusuf Inil Hukmu Illa Lillah and this 2 times!

[@orthodoc234]

U are correct