Islam Makhachev Plans to Move to Welterweight...

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Sonnen talks Islam Makhachev on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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All things UFC and MMA with the undefeated Bad Guy, Chael Sonnen. UFC Champions, Jon Jones, Conor McGregor, Colby Covington, Khamzat Chimaev, the MMA hour and commentary on the latest UFC news, UFC Champions in 2022, UFC knockouts and finishes.

[@Randleplex]

Good on Islam. People always criticized Khabib for never leaving 155, now they criticize Islam for doing the opposite. It goes to show that it doesn't matter what these Dagestani champions do, people will hate them because they're better than the rest.

[@adamlauer1096]

That's why I hate them 😂

[@thomaskia8441]

True

[@jordanfortier3246]

He needs to defend his title a few times first.

[@kingofthecasuals]

People don’t hate them, well maybe some do, but really people don’t relate to them because they’re different than any other culture in the world. They’re generally Caucasian yet because they’re devout Muslims they wear the beards so to an American who doesn’t know, they think they’re Amish or something. Then, the way they fight, it’s absolutely badass but it doesn’t look smooth and coordinated like Alex Perieria or Leon Edwards, Izzy, Jon Jones, it’s a bit more uncoordinated looking but damn it works. But, if you’re a young black man from Manhattan, or a Latino from Chicago, or a white kid from Detroit, how are you to relate to those dudes from the mountains of Dagestan. Maybe it’s fear of the unknown or unfamiliar? I train with many guys from the Middle East who’s parents came to Dearborn Michigan when the guys were little, they all root for the Dagastani’s because they practice the same religion. I also train with four or five dudes from different parts of Russia who say they relate more to Pete Yan or Fedor. So, it’s not as simple as they’re the best, because only one has left the sport being the best. Brazil has many more greats still. 10 years from now, it might be all Dagastani’s holding a belt in every class but right now, we have one, Islam, who’s defended it 2 of 3 times against a 145er, and arguably lost the first fight. So, let’s not all start saying THEY are the best because one out of EVER, named Khabib was the best.

[@Ryan-dr5cr]

@@jordanfortier3246watch the interview. That’s the plan

[@Redery001]

Islam literally every interview since getting belt: I want WW belt next Chael: Never heard it in my life

[@almontaseralazri3107]

Chael is so clueless. Remember when he found out that Islam vs Arman was a 5 round main event?

[@ryanb8736]

Chael looks up to Islam. Watch their interview at Fat Guy vs Bad Guy.

[@FizzSix]

Makhachev has the worst kind of haters… these casuals were once Mcgregor fanboys who got bitter and jumped ship onto Oliveira who Islam destroyed, and who then jumped on the Volk bandwagon. It’s never-ending and no matter what he does, they’ll always move the goalpost so he’ll never get the credit from the fans he deserves. But, i’m sure his feelings aren’t hurt and i’m sure he aint losing any sleep over it… he lives rent free in their heads

[@ryantiarno4294]

Islam is sigma, he always looks composed

[@olliedeaney8740]

How can you type all that and not be aware you’re the exact problem. It’s not that serious or that personal and here you are writing an angry paragraph at… multiple fan bases? Yeah you’re a hypocrite

[@Know3ody]

Islam fans are worse. They support a bloke who's built a career on fighting FWs in his last 4 fights (hooker, charles, volk x2) and then acts like he's beat everyone while beating not a single natural lw. Now speaks about moving up 🤡 feel free to correct me or have a come back but we all know there isn't one.

[@Ahandle55]

@@olliedeaney8740 I think he has a point. Two of the worst fanbases (and largest) in the sport are McGregor fans and Oliveira fans. Both fanbases have a common ground of disliking Islam, causing Islam to recieve a disproportionate amount of hate.

[@dad6666_]

Now they jump on Sakuryan wagon. lol

[@jacksypher3403]

Love that the Dog steps into frame and he just keeps talking

[@BigJermz412]

I’m surprised he even let him get that close!

[@ytuser6091]

The dog is following his hand gestures 😂 I'm dead already!

[@adrenalineunlimited]

Chael, you're breaking my heart. Give that good puppy the scritches they crave.

[@theunbeatable6598]

7:20 "That fight where Islam got kicked in the head and lost, i didnt see it" Nobody did unc chael coz it never happened

[@johntitor6837]

ye it was a fist

[@azadam1000]

Dont understand why some people hate machacev.The dude doesnt disrespect others , he is a very quit person looking like he is gazing an ant on mars and is funny without intention to be funny ,accepts all fights because he doesnt gain anything by fighting porier .Really dont understand the hate

[@dad6666_]

lot of thing, some hate because he's Russian, some hate because he's Muslim, some hate because he's close to Khabib, and lot more.

[@Silver1470]

a lot of people dont have makachev as a fighter or person like myself, but i hate his fucking cringe ass fanbase that dickride everything about him and that spread hate to other fighters all over social media.

[@profinneupane6883]

2 words: russian and muslim

[@drbray]

Any body that is extremely loved will also have some hate. Dont let the sour loud 1% skew ya

[@kev30631]

I appreciate his skill and dominance he shows in his fights.

[@russellbrosam1722]

We need the dog in more videos!

[@superduty2023]

Tito tapped

[@gamebrakerz6322]

That's true

[@jaymac7203]

He actually did aswel 😂

[@SerpentSermon]

Vizsla: I'm a lap dog Chael: I can't let you get too close

[@nokyoteefowt4699]

I've watched uncle chael for years. But I found this video especially insightful. Am I the only one? Thanks unc.

[@tauseefahmad87]

If Islam can beat Poirier in June and then likely to fight Arman in UFC Abu Dhabi but Oct 24. Hope he can take a fight @welterweight by Feb 2025 or April 2025

[@ryantiarno4294]

Islam will fight Savkat for the welter title next year

[@starwarsroo2448]

​@ryantiarno4294 at this rate he'll be fighting him before Leon, the other champ who rarely fights

[@gamer6595]

Islam said he didnt want to fight at the abu dhabi card this year, he wants to go to madison square garden to defend his title after Dustin

[@drbray]

​@@gamer6595source?

[@darinfry1543]

Talking about the scale and weight cut makes me think of rumble Johnson and all the weight classes he competed at. The fact he ever made welterweight is insane

[@jaymac7203]

Chaels nosy doggo 🐶 😂 lol

[@tylermitchell8425]

islam vs shavkat would be a great fight. so would him and leon

[@Know3ody]

Leon v shavkat is better in every way.

[@ammarabu-qalbain616]

@@Know3ody yeah man, leon "the decision machine" edwards would be fun to watch. Islam is literally more entertaining in almost every way

[@saadkeani6604]

Shavkat fight is dangerous for Islam. Hope he fights against Leon

[@hellogoodbye1748]

@@ammarabu-qalbain616Leon v Shavkat is better in every way.

[@kev30631]

Islam beats both of those guys. I don't see him being challenged at 170 either. Who is really up there that can do anything to him.

[@frankl2634]

Silly Lord Chael, there’s only one champ champ and that’s Chael Chael.

[@Ahmad_here27]

Chael: i follow you very closely champ. Islam: it's my dream to become double champ at 170 Chael: i didn't know that Islam : but i called leon for 3 years now

[@Jesse-hk8ls]

People always whinging about Islam hate. No one actually cares. We just want to see him fight more often.

[@kev30631]

I observed that MMA hate will come from fans wanting to see hype trains humbled. Patty pimplett is already there. I think Bo Nickel is entering it. Islam is a special case of him not defending his belt against his division. If he feels there's no challenges for him there, then he should vacate and go up. Even if he beats Dustin, he should go if he's bored there.

[@ratneshrawat5388]

makhachev vs shavkat would be legendary

[@fatehazim]

Chael could you please do a video on the importance of having that 1 in islams record. I feel it alleviates a lot of pressure that khabib had with 0 and comparisons of being unbeaten like him.

[@randomdog87]

4:27

[@moanouti2971]

Islam should be focusing on Dustin Poirier instead of dreaming about a WW move. These things have a history of ending badly.

[@guilliman1990]

Let's hope God lord let's hope

[@adamlauer1096]

​@guilliman1990 My dream is Dustin sparks Islam, so Khabib comes back to fight Dustin again and he sparks him too Islam is gonna smash him tho

[@kev30631]

Islam hasn't lost in years. He has a pretty strong track record

[@fuuf7092]

So did Jesus' earliest followers consider him to be God? EHRMAN: Well, what I argue in the book is that during his lifetime, Jesus himself didn't call himself God and didn't consider himself God and that none of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God. The way it works is that you do find Jesus calling himself God in the Gospel of John, our last Gospel. Jesus says things like: Before Abraham was, I am, and I and the father are one, and if you've seen me, you've see the father. These are all statements that you find only in the Gospel of John, and that's striking because we have earlier Gospels, and we have the writings of Paul, and in none of them is there any indication that Jesus said such things about him. I think it's completely implausible that Matthew, Mark and Luke would not mention that Jesus called himself God if that's what he was declaring about himself. That would be a rather important point to make. So this is not an unusual view among scholars. It's simply the view that the Gospel of John is providing a theological understand of Jesus that is not what was historically accurate. GROSS: Jesus was referred to as the king of the Jews. Did he call himself that, and what did that mean it is time? Do we know? Can we have any idea what that meant in its time? EHRMAN: Yeah, we do know, and actually to be a king of the Jews simply meant literally, being the king over Israel. It is a very difficult question to get to, what Jesus taught about himself because of the nature of our gospels, but one thing is relatively certain, that that the reason the Romans crucified Jesus was precisely because he was calling himself the king of Israel. Now, Jesus obviously was not the king. So what might he have meant by it? Well, what scholars have long thought is that Jesus was talking about not being put on the throne by means of some kind of political show of power, but that Jesus thought the world as he knew it was coming to an end and God was going to bring in a kingdom, a new kingdom in which there would be no more injustice or oppression or poverty or suffering of any kind. And in this kingdom, Jesus appears to have thought that he himself would be the future king. And so Jesus meant this not in the regular political sense but in a kind of apocalyptic sense, that at the end of the age, this is what was going to happen: he was going to be installed as king. GROSS: So Jesus saw himself as the messiah. What else did that mean in its time? EHRMAN: Well, a lot of Christians today have a wrong idea about what the messiah was supposed to be. The word messiah is a Hebrew word that literally means the anointed one. This was used in reference to the kings of Israel. The ancient kings of Israel, when they became king during the coronation ceremony, would have oil poured on their head as a sign of divine favor. And so the king of Israel was called God's anointed one, the messiah. There came a point at which there was no longer a king ruling Israel, and some Jewish thinkers began to maintain that there would be a future king of Israel, a future anointed one, and they called that one the messiah. And so the messiah for most Jews simply referred to the future king of Israel. And so when Jesus told his disciples that he himself was the messiah, he was saying that in the future, when God establishes the kingdom once more, I myself will be the king of that kingdom. And so it's not that the messiah was supposed to be God. The messiah was not supposed to be God. The messiah was a human being who would be the future king, and that's probably what Jesus taught his disciples that he was

[@fuuf7092]

Jesus Christ not God. It is clear from the verses below that he was indeed 100% man. John 17.3...jesus says to the father...that they may know you, THE ONLY TRUE GOD and Jesus whom you sent. John 20.17 Jesus says....I am ascending to my father and your father, my God and your God. Acts 2:22 “Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man… Numbers 23:19 (NRSV) God is not a human being, that he should lie, or a mortal… Hosea 11:9 For I am God, and not man- the Holy One among you.

[@karmaakabane8258]

Chael you've superman like personality love your charm❤❤😊😊

[@_Cameron_91]

Can we have more appearances of the dog. Thanks.

[@IbnMakir]

Chael is using 137 products, daily.

[@chrisbrewster354]

Love the Idea of Islam moving up! Potentially world war with islam and colby🤣 a match up with usman would be interesting, Him and leon! Endless amounts of new names because if he gets through Dustin and Ahmen whats really next maybe paddy the baddy in like a year and a half🤣 why not move up at throw your hand in their. And if he just felt like getting Super rich. That fight with conor. Is just something lurking in the background

[@JimmyGotRustled]

Usman is a MW now

[@FSociety651]

Usman destroys Islam let’s be honest

[@FSociety651]

Usman destroys Islam let’s be honest

[@niyazahmed3448]

Islam beats the piss out of colby, usman, leon and shavkhat are the only hard fights for him, even then id still favour islam over usman right now.

[@MakeLegosGreatAgain]

@chael you need to get DC to introduce you to Islam and get on the mats with him and let us know how he feels. You didn't do it with khamzat or khabib. Dont miss your opportunity!

[@DasGoodSoup]

👀👀👀👀

[@bigcatdiary08]

"let us know how he feels"

[@MakeLegosGreatAgain]

If you are a long time follower you would recall this conversation during the khamzat episode.

[@amineboudhina5326]

That would be 🔥🔥

[@azad1818]

Yes

[@micahpolizzi7007]

That’s fine, he doesn’t get to keep the belt. Clear out the division, or get on with it. I’m tired of hearing about things fighters are going to do.

[@WeAreGhuraba]

You nobodies have no say in this sport, keep quiet

[@micahpolizzi7007]

@@WeAreGhuraba the irony of you saying that while flapping yo d*** s***ing lips is insans

[@starwarsroo2448]

He isn't clearing out the division, he's had the belt two years and fought a Featherweight

[@rajkhan9643]

​​@@starwarsroo2448 that featherweight was the #1 P4P fighter at the time. When Charles pulled out, the betting odds tightened a lot because the public knew that even short-notice Volk was a bigger threat than full-camp Oliveira.

[@starwarsroo2448]

@@rajkhan9643 Fw is the goat or was, doesn't mean Mackachev shouldn't clear out some of the top guys IN Lw

[@andrei_2477]

Am I the only one thinking Islam could be champ champ champ? I think even 185 would look good on him.

[@zstroke9556]

He is too small for 185

[@Why_youuu]

Maybe but there are lots of big guys over there

[@Zold99]

Why say khabib retired cuz he didn’t want to make 155 anymore? And say that “as big is Islam is” he will end up moving to 170 or retire when he’s the same size and even smaller than many LWs? And why do you want to change the definition of what a double champ is when you have never said anything about it before? Watch this pattern of his.

[@giacalonebuilding4443]

He said champ champ not double champ. IMO he is right they are very different things. Winning in 2 weights is double champ but simultaneously holding two belts champ champ.

[@RicardoReview]

😂 same size they have alot more muscle all around than most fighters, strong thights and upper body, must "bigger" fw have shoulders/pecks

[@Zold99]

@@RicardoReview yet he is the same size or even shorter. Okey he may be more muscular, so? Cope harder.

[@Zold99]

@@giacalonebuilding4443 but first he needs to get his shot at the second belt to become double champ before he can defend it and be “champ champ”. Why does Islam need to climb the 170 div when he’s the PP1 in UFC and also has the longest active win streak when others got their shot for less? It’s blatant discrimination and we know why.

[@giacalonebuilding4443]

@@Zold99 I never said anything about Islam. Just that double champ means winning a belt in 2 weights at any point in time and champ champ is simultaneously holding 2 belts

[@floridaman2331]

That’s a good dog!

[@20nightparlour56]

Chael has that dawg in him.

[@sydwa]

Cute doggy!!

[@GibbsVideography]

Tato tipped

[@Freeyourself206]

Khabib said it was after his father died and his mother asked him not to fight without his father anymore. that’s what I have always heard from Khabib and his coach.

[@ammar6036]

great video watched the whole thing

[@steverobledo]

Me too, only took 5 seconds

[@tito5428]

GSP was a "2 Division Champ"... Chaels right (captain obvious), Champ-Champ is simultaneous

[@Rule.303]

I think holding the belt in two divisions much less three automatically makes you a piece of shit. I don't think you should be allowed. When you go up in weight class that should be it unless you go back down and weight class. You're taking away 1 and possibly two other guys's chances at pay-per-view participation and you're not even benefiting from it because you're still only fighting twice a year. Get your millions of dollars twice a year as long as you can. If you're a true champion and you can go up or down in weight class, let that belt go and let another man make a living.

[@Figgy636]

And you failed to ask how he’d beat Leon, what he thinks of Leon’s skills or belal vs leon. What were you doing?

[@Keeziomo]

Undisputed and undefeated Chael P

[@devil1994]

Islam should definitely move up but I want Islam vs Ilia Topuria also. I guess that won't happen. It would have been an interesting fight.

[@MMACHICK-jp8lv]

CHAEL YOUR DOG😍😍😍😍😍

[@m1g3lo]

Chael has a viszla??? ❤❤❤❤❤

[@patcarruthers6703]

Quit saying 5 rounds is 70 percent longer. It's 40 percent. Big difference Bad Guy

[@MP-cc5rv]

Islam wanting to test himself at ww, proves he has a bigger set than Khabib. Khabib beat a bunch of former or future fw strikers, and Gaethje, who barely cuts weight. Also, don't get me started on Khabib abusing the 'no knees to a grounded opponent' rule. "What kind of man fights on his knees?"

[@robertconklin3850]

I would rather see multiple division champ over a double champ. All double champs get thrown right into a championship fight. Multi division champs work more for it

[@ideacharlie]

6:44 he pets the dog!

[@ytuser6091]

Way to go P4P Islam 🔥

[@ausaaf16]

Casuals will always hate on Islam no matter what. They hated Khabib for never moving to 170 and now they hate Islam for talking about moving to 170,that just tells they will gonna hate him,always coz he's better than their favs

[@darklordregion]

Islam vs shavkat at 170 would be peak mma

[@seeloknyasebaiknya3392]

Insya Allah And Still ☝️👑 Islam Makhachev

[@Coastal_one]

I can imagine the conversations you have with the pup

[@Zold99]

Why does Islam need some “unique” circumstances to get a chance for a shot at double champ when he’s #1 Pound for pound? Why does everybody else get a chance and some for less but not Islam? Guys we need to read between the lines and call out the hypocrisy!

[@keyboardwarrior6591]

Because you have Belal and Shavkat/JDM first. UFC 300 was one reason they could justify passing Belal but now that no longer works. And if Shavkat wins, he goes next

[@Zold99]

@@keyboardwarrior6591 I can tolerate that Belal gets his shot first but what I can’t tolerate is him have to climb the latter when he’s UFC’s PP1 and has the longest active win streak when other got their chance for less.

[@keyboardwarrior6591]

@@Zold99 I don’t think he needs to fight any contender but he needs to be willing to wait a bit. Actually in the mean time he is fighting Dustin and Arman so it should be fine

[@Zold99]

@@keyboardwarrior6591 I don’t have any objections to that and I don’t think he has either except some frustration on arman for dragging out the fight but still keep calling him out despite declining to fight him 4 times. What I do have a objection to is him throwing dirt on them by taking stabs at them with unfounded allegations that the real reason khabib quit is cuz he didn’t want to make weight and that Islam might do the same. And when he is saying that going straight to a title shot is “hard” unless a “unique opportunity presents itself which it already did”. He is deliberately discrediting both by saying they have a size advantage which they clearly don’t have being shorter than many of the LWs and he’s putting up stupid roadblocks for Islams path to a WW title when he is the most deserving of a chance at a second belt im UFC roster. It’s foul play from chael side.

[@belalbelal4614]

170 sounds like a great idea.

[@Doesme1h]

Chael let that dog get very close for a long time

[@TuanFazar]

Mind your own business, man, Islam is working hard for his earnings, not like you just talking ........., He is well deserved to be double Champ .... 🏆 👍

[@abdelmalekbnk7479]

Give me conor vs leon

[@user-in6od4zs6d]

Haters, karens and bum fanboys just don't like Islam to be a double champ. Keep on cry....

[@drok6822]

More pups please

[@charmianchan9061]

I could see Islam and Chael being brothas if they hung out more 😂

[@adkads27]

Chaels puppy has something to say about Islam too

[@moneyraylucas7161]

You gotta pet the dog next time Chael. Ya just gotta

[@Games_and_Tech]

This would be a great idea, now you will have 2 division ruled by the same guy that likes to fight once a year...

[@joe-the-op]

Usman coming for LW belt

[@luiscoutinho29]

Honest question, IF Belal wins WW title, will Islam still fighting him for the double champion status?

[@ricktheruler1665]

I was the 800th like 👍 After Islam beats Dustin and arman then sure . Move up to fight the winner of Leon and belal

[@Mactownization]

That Mando cream will make you scream when applied correctly.

[@smilesgoodsense468]

He should. He would do great at welterweight

[@qwertyfy8014]

i thought Chael had a cat 😀

[@masterdingus7074]

He should plan to defend his title

[@Mando-qb4ps]

shop mando

[@joshuaandrus4332]

Tito definitely tapped and he reads these

[@TonesWorld480]

First fight.. Dec 2026!!

[@ryanstinson726]

imagine islam vs shavkat at 170

[@haxed_3613]

True, alex pereira is not a double champ, double champ means simultaneous and he lost the belt as soon as he got it

[@FinDubGames]

Champ-champ is simultaneous. Double champ is solely winning two different belts. This is known information.

[@epikmemories]

He is a two division champ

[@chiquita683]

Hurt casual

[@haxed_3613]

@@chiquita683 Casuals are like 90% of alex's fanbase lol

[@stoney-wan]

Sure

[@isaevdenisvladimirov]

To all who just started watching - Chael will eventually (05:10) pet the dog, don't you worry

[@raihanurrahman503]

*Khabib retires due to his father dying, and his mothers wishes* Chael: Khabib couldnt beat the scale

[@glenshort6567]

People are so clueless as to why Khabib retired.

[@tokiwartuthe]

Good, now he can hold up 2 divisions

[@chiquita683]

Fight once a year in 2 divisions 😂

[@JustLion890]

Like leon ?

[@dm2xV]

Islam is about to have his 3rd defense before the current ww champion leon edwards. Edwars has had the belt for quite a bit longer btw but i guess you just going to act blind to that just to hate on Islam.

[@adamlauer1096]

​@@dm2xVno they both suck

[@thomaskia8441]

Yes and here you crybabys cry even more I would love that

[@gregoryjones8440]

Would Islam fight shavkat because I never see the Muslim fighters take one another on?

[@pitcobra_boncoc_]

Probably, because Alex Pereira is Muslim, but him and Ankalaev are going to fight each other regardless.

[@Wasifaurko]

​@@pitcobra_boncoc_ Alex allegedly left islam

[@LXIXTurner]

If i have to hear you say “every guy has a guy” one more time!!!

[@goatymcgoatface3575]

Man them views are dropping badly uncle chael. Might be time for you to start googling bridges

[@iannocente6370]

Volk for sure won a few rounds in the first fight

[@Brandon-RZ]

Can these guys just clean out their divisions first. I hate the effect Connor has had on the sport in this regard.

[@theblueprint768]

UFC is turning into WWE. The champs talk more than they fight. Fighter seem more concerned with social media then booking a fight. Islam & Leon should have already defended their belt this year. Alex is by far the most active fighter champ or not.

[@lebraa]

Just logged into say thank you chael. Thank you for what you are doing for our brother.

[@ThatCasualZach]

Chael knows islam is on steroids

[@jairoruiz9709]

Solid dog. Doggo needs a bad guy inc collar.

[@sherifnabil50]

He's liquid

[@Notreallyhereanymore]

Islam should get 5+ title defenses before moving up

[@TOXIC_MATEEN]

Almost 90% fighters move up even before 3 title defences and you want Islam to defend 5 times😂

[@deank5649]

He beats Dustin and Arman that's 4 which is the most in UFC LW history but you think he needs 5 plus..........???????

[@TOXIC_MATEEN]

@@deank5649 he’s just a dump🤡 and a keyboard warrior

[@motorcyclesdream6921]

Dustin will gilly Makachev and become champion..and Khabib angry.. we will get new big fight Dustin vs Khabib 2

[@khiariabderrahmane1978]

Lesgooo uncle chael

[@Donald.J.Trump-971]

Lovely vid!

[@fuuf7092]

So did Jesus' earliest followers consider him to be God? EHRMAN: Well, what I argue in the book is that during his lifetime, Jesus himself didn't call himself God and didn't consider himself God and that none of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God. The way it works is that you do find Jesus calling himself God in the Gospel of John, our last Gospel. Jesus says things like: Before Abraham was, I am, and I and the father are one, and if you've seen me, you've see the father. These are all statements that you find only in the Gospel of John, and that's striking because we have earlier Gospels, and we have the writings of Paul, and in none of them is there any indication that Jesus said such things about him. I think it's completely implausible that Matthew, Mark and Luke would not mention that Jesus called himself God if that's what he was declaring about himself. That would be a rather important point to make. So this is not an unusual view among scholars. It's simply the view that the Gospel of John is providing a theological understand of Jesus that is not what was historically accurate. GROSS: Jesus was referred to as the king of the Jews. Did he call himself that, and what did that mean it is time? Do we know? Can we have any idea what that meant in its time? EHRMAN: Yeah, we do know, and actually to be a king of the Jews simply meant literally, being the king over Israel. It is a very difficult question to get to, what Jesus taught about himself because of the nature of our gospels, but one thing is relatively certain, that that the reason the Romans crucified Jesus was precisely because he was calling himself the king of Israel. Now, Jesus obviously was not the king. So what might he have meant by it? Well, what scholars have long thought is that Jesus was talking about not being put on the throne by means of some kind of political show of power, but that Jesus thought the world as he knew it was coming to an end and God was going to bring in a kingdom, a new kingdom in which there would be no more injustice or oppression or poverty or suffering of any kind. And in this kingdom, Jesus appears to have thought that he himself would be the future king. And so Jesus meant this not in the regular political sense but in a kind of apocalyptic sense, that at the end of the age, this is what was going to happen: he was going to be installed as king. GROSS: So Jesus saw himself as the messiah. What else did that mean in its time? EHRMAN: Well, a lot of Christians today have a wrong idea about what the messiah was supposed to be. The word messiah is a Hebrew word that literally means the anointed one. This was used in reference to the kings of Israel. The ancient kings of Israel, when they became king during the coronation ceremony, would have oil poured on their head as a sign of divine favor. And so the king of Israel was called God's anointed one, the messiah. There came a point at which there was no longer a king ruling Israel, and some Jewish thinkers began to maintain that there would be a future king of Israel, a future anointed one, and they called that one the messiah. And so the messiah for most Jews simply referred to the future king of Israel. And so when Jesus told his disciples that he himself was the messiah, he was saying that in the future, when God establishes the kingdom once more, I myself will be the king of that kingdom. And so it's not that the messiah was supposed to be God. The messiah was not supposed to be God. The messiah was a human being who would be the future king, and that's probably what Jesus taught his disciples that he was

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@@fuuf7092 when he died he said he was the one and only true GOD And when Muhammad,and Ali died they said they were not!

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Jesus is the one true god and when he comes to judge the earth you will believe him and it will be to late!

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A prophet is someone SENT by God, God is not a prophet by definition, they are mutually exclusive. If this man was GOD, he would never have claimed to be a prophet or called a prophet by those who saw him. Matthew 21:11 And the crowds were saying, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee.” Luke 7:16 Fear gripped them all, and they began glorifying God, saying, “A great prophet has arisen among us!” John 4:19 The woman *said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet. Matthew 21:46 When they sought to seize Him, they feared the people, because they considered Him to be a prophet. John 6:14 Therefore when the people saw the sign which He had performed, they said, “This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” John 7:40 Some of the people therefore, when they heard these words, were saying, “This certainly is the Prophet.” John 9:17 So they *said to the blind man again, “What do you say about Him, since He opened your eyes?” And he said, “He is a prophet.” Luke 24:19 And He said to them, “What things?” And they said to Him, “The things about Jesus the Nazarene, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word in the sight of God and all the people, Mark 6:15 But others were saying, “He is Elijah.” And others were saying, “He is a prophet, like one of the prophets of old.” Mark 8:28 They told Him, saying, “John the Baptist; and others say Elijah; but others, one of the prophets.” Luke 9:8 and by some that Elijah had appeared, and by others that one of the prophets of old had risen again. OK, so Jesus doesnt refute anybody calling him a Prophet, he reaffirms it😇 Luke 13:33 . . . . I must proceed on my way. For it wouldn’t do for a prophet of God to be kwil. Led except in Jerusalem. Mark 6:3-4 Then they scoffed . . . . They were deeply off. nded and refused to believe in him. Then Jesus told them, “A prophet is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his relatives and his own family”

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thew 21:11 And the crowds were saying, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee.” Luke 7:16 Fear gripped them all, and they began glorifying God, saying, “A great prophet has arisen among us!” John 4:19 The woman *said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet. Matthew 21:46 When they sought to seize Him, they feared the people, because they considered Him to be a prophet. John 6:14 Therefore when the people saw the sign which He had performed, they said, “This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” John 7:40 Some of the people therefore, when they heard these words, were saying, “This certainly is the Prophet.” John 9:17 So they *said to the blind man again, “What do you say about Him, since He opened your eyes?” And he said, “He is a prophet.” Luke 24:19 And He said to them, “What things?” And they said to Him, “The things about Jesus the Nazarene, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word in the sight of God and all the people, Mark 6:15 But others were saying, “He is Elijah.” And others were saying, “He is a prophet, like one of the prophets of old.” Mark 8:28 They told Him, saying, “John the Baptist; and others say Elijah; but others, one of the prophets.” Luke 9:8 and by some that Elijah had appeared, and by others that one of the prophets of old had risen again. OK, so Jesus doesnt refute anybody calling him a Prophet, he reaffirms it😇 Luke 13:33 . . . . I must proceed on my way. For it wouldn’t do for a prophet of God to be kwil. Led except in Jerusalem. Mark 6:3-4 Then they scoffed . . . . They were deeply off. nded and refused to believe in him. Then Jesus told them, “A prophet is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and among his relatives and his own family”

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Professor chael is here,everbody bring pen and paper.

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Chaellies. Should be his new name. Multiple lies in one video presented as truth. Well this is the guy who says he won fights that he lost knowing most people wont ever check.

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Jon also tapped

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Im surprised Uncle Chael let the pup get close