Islam's most inhumane punishment

[@josephjahan8921]

I would like to add that the 4 witnesses are not needed if the adulterer(or homosexual) confesses. Coercion is used in few Islamic countries so the accused "confesses".

[@Husayn0318]

A criminal can only be coerced if there's a considerable amount of circumstantial evidence pointing towards his guilt.

[@hans471]

@@Husayn0318 can you explain what you mean by "coerced"? Can you justify your claim from Sharia law? Thank you

[@Husayn0318]

@@hans471 "Components of valid interrogation techniques under Islamic law" Pages 5-6

[@hans471]

@@Husayn0318 Thank you. The cited reference is quite vague and more politically than theologically oriented. To be more specific: Is torture allowed in sharia law as e.g. practiced by Mohmammed: The Prophet gave orders concerning Kenana to Zubayr, saying, ‘Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kenana’s chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kenana was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him. -- Al-Tabari, Vol. 8, p. 122

[@Husayn0318]

@@hans471 The story that you mentioned is a fabricated one. What you need to understand about the Seerah(Prophetic biography) literature is that the authors simply compiled a bunch of reports without authenticating them so not everything you find in it is true. They left the task of verifying those reports upto the Muhaditheen(Experts of the sciences of hadith). They then classified some reports as authentic, weak, fabricated etc.

[@okayuhm6653]

I can’t tell how nice it is to hear an ex Muslim talk about these things, especially when i am going through rough times. I do not know where my mother got this from (like what scriptures or mufti) but i am sure it was these crimes (opps laws) that made her hold such opinions. Few weeks ago she told me, “If a Muslim women marries a non-Muslim and upon that if the father gets super angry. And if the father in that anger ends up killing her daughter, then he will not be sinned because he did that in an anger that was reasonable for a father to feel” I never thought my mother was capable of such opinions, I couldn’t sleep for days... I don’t know what religion does to people...

[@OMGpurple25]

I’m so sorry. You’re not alone. Stay strong

[@okayuhm6653]

@@ibi1453 well, we are not coping up with our atheism over. What we are actually trying to cop up with is your religion 😂😂...

[@OMGpurple25]

@@ibi1453No. What's sad is seeing how upset Muslims get when they see ex-muslims trying to tell the truth about the religion. Ex-muslims have every right to share their beliefs--just like you do.

[@OMGpurple25]

@@ibi1453 There is not much to cope with as an atheist beside the initial feeling that you were LIED TO your whole life about a man who lives in the sky. Oh, and also the fear that you'll be shunned or murdered for being an apostate. Other than that, its liberating :)

[@zainudinahmad-s6u]

@@okayuhm6653 that's tribe law or sum , literally the same thing happened before Islam came to the quraisy tribe, search it up bruh easy to understand Islam prevent those kind of stuff that the Arabs had done

[@NorahAmeer]

imagine being a gay teenager in a muslim country and realizing holy shit they want me dead.

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

yeh, not just 'their views offend me'' but shit, I need to guard my LIFE

[@localskepticTafs]

sadly me.

[@Ahmed-ef6ss]

Top-teir content Aladdin! Hope to see more from you.

[@ApostateAladdin]

I'm just here to look at my cool timestamps

[@nohaydios3590]

They work.. especially for the ones over 1hr 30 mins like last week..👍

[@bartv8207]

Love your sense of humour 😄 Keep up the good work!

[@DISCO-munication]

Love your voice and content (I'm atheist).

[@HellbirdIV]

I was just thinking about this point yesterday. My conclusion is that, well, franky, there is no such thing as "morality" in Islam. Morality is a code of conduct based on values, an innate sense of right and wrong - Islam doesn't have that. Islam has _rules._ Muslims aren't supposed to be moral - they're supposed to be _obedient._ If you choose not to do something because there is a rule that says you will be punished if you do it, that's not being moral. That's being obedient. Breaking a rule because it is unjust, even if it is only unjust in a particular extreme circumstance, is being moral. For example: At a Zoo, there is a rule that says "Do Not Feed The Animals". This exists so that you, as a visitor, don't feed the animals in the exhibits as there is no guarantee that you know what is safe for them to eat, and there are other risks and dangers posed by random people throwing food into the pens. This is following a rule, but the rule is also based on a moral precept - to protect the animals' well-being. But what if, as you're walking through the Zoo, you realize that the animals aren't being properly fed by the keepers? Maybe the Zoo doesn't have enough money, maybe some of the Keepers are incompetent or even corrupt, and so the animals are genuinely suffering because they aren't being fed properly - but the are still people around who operate the Zoo, people who enforce the "Do Not Feed The Animals" rule. Is the moral thing to do really to just walk away and let the animals suffer, because that's what the rules say? Obviously not. The moral precept to protect the animals' well-being is what actually matters, and I don't think so low of most Muslims as to believe that they would actually let innocent animals suffer starvation and sickness just because the rules say they should - even if the rules came with a little caveat on the sign that says "This was ordained by Allah through his messenger Muhammad" they'd find a way to justify to themselves breaking the rules in order to feed the animals. Just make up the right "interpretation" of the rules that you can circumvent their meaning, and do what's actually right. Because morality doesn't come from God, or Muhammad, or the Qur'an - it comes from people.

[@nohaydios3590]

Gold💛🌟

[@AzamatBagatov413]

Let's apply your definition. Morality comes from people Well, Germany in the 1940s decided to do pretty bad things to jews If a thousand people get together and agree that having sex with animals showing behavioural consent is morally good, would you agree? If a huge number of people come together and agree that having sex with one's own mother with proper contraception is morally good, would you agree?

[@humanrace6224]

@@AzamatBagatov413 majority of people are not prophet Mohammad and they don't find goat sexy

[@MonstrulSpaghetelorZburatoare]

@@AzamatBagatov413 Morality comes from people, just like love comes from people. Both of them are senses, which means our perception of them can only be subjective. HOWEVER Morality and love are subjective as senses, but not as concepts. For example, even if love is a subjective sense, we know that torturing and killing someone is not "love". It is objectively not love. Which means love as a concept has a certain degree of objectivity. Same with morality. The concept itself is about things that unjustly harm someone. We all have a slightly different sense of it, but harming someone unjustly is something objective. If you punch me in the face with no reason, then you objectively harm me unjustly. So just because morality comes from people that doesn't make the concept itself subjective. Just our perception of it is subjective

[@AzamatBagatov413]

@@MonstrulSpaghetelorZburatoare you can love someone and kill the person they hate because you love them So it's not necessary that love is something inherently moral or good. Love is just movement of molecules in the brain. That's it! Justice is a moral concept. It is not objective. Killing and eating a plant or a cow, it's just separation of molecules. Killing and eating a human baby, it's separation of molecules as well Why is human species any more valuable than rat or cow or plants? This is a religious belief that humans have superiority over other animals. Atheists want to have their cake and eat it too.

[@Timeone123.]

Well said it’s all true. Islam is holding humanity behind.

[@DJ_Ichiyo]

Ancient Greece is futuristic as heck compared to any muslim country

[@adonai7187]

Such a dangerous Religion. Keep exposing this cult. No wonder you were just too smart to have been under Islam..

[@ruisakamoto5512]

This remid me when the Muslim in my country try to vote for our law to be ruled by full shariah law. They say it's only for Muslim which is a lie. They will later forced everyone to follow.

[@dorarie3167]

Though I know AA knows this, Islam says you can BE gay, but not LIVE or ACT gay. In other words, you can desire but never have what you need to be a whole, happy, satisfied person. (Of course, asexuals may not desire sex.) The point about the Jewish woman requesting a Jewish punishment applies as well to the Banu Qurayza whose menfolk/teen males were beheaded apparently at their request according to Jewish law. My point, like yours, is couldn’t Mohammed have shown mercy? He also sold the females into sex slavery.

[@dorarie3167]

@@P_Pro27 Thank you but no need. The simple fact is that I don’t believe Mohammed spoke to an angel or that the Quran is from a god. To me, the morality offered is man-made and comes from 7th Century Arab men. Because of this, I don’t see a legitimate rationale for prohibiting LGBTQ relations.

[@sweetpotato5535]

that's a sad life, why tf gay ppl should follow a religion that takes away their rights to marry? it's like I can have a house but I'm allowed to buy one by the law, I can be hungry but I'm not allowed to eat, etc. it doesn't make any sense, this is bullshit

[@MauriceB-zn5pv]

@@dorarie3167 The message he delivered was beneficial to the Arabs during their time. It must have been effective because it turned them into an empire. It is now outdated. I feel that way about all the holy books of the deep past. Great for their time and people. Time for an update. Personally I’m a fan of the Bahais. ….who the Shia Muslims violently persecute in Iran for teaching unity and acceptance.

[@CamouflageMaster]

@@MauriceB-zn5pv totally agree... islam was good for the middle east to rise from spiral dynamics stage purple and red to more of stage blue (for a while). But to defend these teachings today, well.. there are more humane alternatives now

[@nul7009]

That "صبرني يا رب" part cracked me xD

[@tamaratamtammorris8151]

I was wondering what that said, lol. Guess Google Translate is good for something for once

[@saintaishah]

This ideology just doesn't adhere to human rights and logic. It has survived so long due to ignorance of the Arabic language and fear which is its foundation. According to this ideology a woman has to provide evidences for her innocence when it comes to r@pe, isn't this madness?! Also in this beautiful ideology people are not equal and the whole worldview is black and white. When followers are order to love its founder more than their parents and their own selves, this will lead to many horrible actions. This itself should make the followers question it, but they won't because they are blinded to it. The change is coming and people are getting more educated :) Good and well constructed video Aladdin!

[@zackdeew9757]

M'zzies conservative mindset kinda reminds me with Bushido spirit among the Japanese army during WWII, they cherish their emperor more than anything in this world even their own lives hence they love to do some banzai charge & kamikaze attack rather than being captured alive by the enemy,, it's pretty similiar stuff with what the I5l4mic j1h4dist do now

[@Sarah-gq8zj]

I am sorry but I have to say that, you have really beautiful and calming eyes my gosh

[@aprilcox871]

Islam's worst crime? Banning music.

[@zackdeew9757]

and banning painting which depict human & animal for weird nonsensical reason

[@Bithia65]

And banning and killing dogs.

[@tulpas93]

Forcing this worldview on innocent children. 😢

[@julias.9091]

Glad to know that under islamic rule both my uncles and their respective husbands would be stoned to death. How can muslims wonder why anyone would fear such a peaceful religion? The subject you spoke about was really grim, but you made it lighter by making pretty funny jokes. Take care of yourself, man.

[@FuentesBoa]

Wow. Your channel will blow up...no pun intended.

[@ThePeacefulIsWillingTo]

I watched a video last May of stoning execution done in Iran in 2013, it was two man being stoned, not sure what are their charges, but I remembered the video showing a crowd gathering around them mocking, cursing at the victims, two chest high holed were prepared, the victims are escorted to the hole with their hands tied and head covered with white bag/cloth, and then the hole is covered until chest high. Then the crowd simultaneously started to throw rocks at them, and it was not just throwing casually at them, it was full blown throwing like bullet throwing in Olympic games and also like throwing a baseball- kind of throwing. The victims uncovered their blinds and binds and were desperately covering their head until some of the crowd began to close in kicking, hitting and one of them threw a crushing throw on them with a bigger rock (IIRC a big two handed concrete block) of which one of them was killed instantly with blood gushing from his head, while the other one continued to be pelted a few minutes longer until he succumbed to his wounds. Even after that the crowd still continued to close in , throw, and hit them victim even after the victim expired. That is what I can described from the video I watched in KZbin. Not sure if the video is still there because it was extremely explicit and violent which should already break the TOS of KZbin, and also I cannot 'un-remember' it.

[@Bithia65]

I can't unremember the ones I saw either. Graphic. Too Graphic.

[@darknightmare7281]

I can’t fathom the people who threw the rocks and saw blood and suffering infront of them and yet remained unmoved and continued the torture

[@kumarules118]

I think it was in Apostate Prophet debate or something but I remember the comment sections full of people "OH SO YOU'RE DEFENDING RAPISTS?" when he argued stoning is inhumane. Bruh what jail is for 🙄

[@collector4551]

Keep up the good work!

[@easyguy625]

Great public information, we need BBC in UK to also broadcast it

[@cristinaguine5235]

Good point! I'm not a Muslim, not even a religious person, but I decided to learn about it and I'm shocked with the atrocities it allows and even promotes!!! This should be broadcasted in mais channel TVs around the western world!

[@chillinwithscripture3033]

Muslim here. What is even more bizarre is that in case of executing a murderer, the Quran instructs the wali لا يسرف في القتل. And yet for adultery it is this barbaric sort of punishment. How is stoning not اسراف في القتل؟ How is it that God calls a more humane manner of execution for a murderer, but for adultery He calls for this sort of punishment? Someone justify that? Utter nonsense. Surely God never decreed this. Great video, Aladdin 👍

[@chillinwithscripture3033]

@@enigmaticimagination01 understand the comment please. It is made to show God had not prescribed stoning, and you are asking me to provide you with a verse from the Quran. The point being made, is, how could God call for a humane punishment for a murderer and yet for adultery he would call for this sort of punishment. It is directed to those who say that the punishment for adultery should be stoning. Hence, why the comment begins with: Muslim here.

[@nohaydios3590]

I took some hours to come to watch this video...(cs i was bsy) But oh maaan it was worth it.. Aladdin has leaped a huge level with the way he makes points(sharp and with a pinch of that sc).. in this one .. Way to go ✨👍 First I thought of marking down the timeline..(boy oh boy there were too many apt points he talked on )..so.. only thing left is a big appreciation for this Really looking forward to content . ✨✨

[@ApostateAladdin]

Thank you so much for the kind words :)

[@nohaydios3590]

@@ApostateAladdin 👍 Hi to 🐈s

[@messanya]

These things are actually why I'm not a believer anymore. I'm queer, and I thought it'd be ok to hold onto my faith while discovering who I am. That obviously isn't the case. If I were to love who I love, I would be fucking dead right now, justifiably so in the author's eyes. I don't think I'd be able to live like that. Where my creator, the one who should love me, would command other followers to kill me and then send me to hell. And Islam is a religion of love and peace? Stop lying to yourselves.

[@ghosthunter3801]

luv u videos. keepitup . nobody knows who u are. get rid of the talibans

[@mnk6100]

Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet beat a drunk with palm-leaf stalks and shoes. And Abu Bakr gave (such a sinner) forty lashes.

[@ismailtopa3671]

Man you need more views and subscribers. First time and I'm impressed.

[@ApostateAladdin]

Thank you! :)

[@dmelloa1]

The movie stoning of Soraya, based on a true story, comes to mind here. It's on youtube! Watch it to see how islam works in some islamic countries, if not all. The stoning scene is barbaric and difficult to watch but one must watch it to understand the barbarity of the process.

[@saadthal4393]

This is not real , fiction.

[@dmelloa1]

@@saadthal4393 - So you say........what's your evidence?

[@lahleholivia7398]

Allah originally wanted all muslims to pray 50 times a day. Muhammad talked him down to 5 (the quran speaks of 3). Sahih Bukhari 3887. If allah wrote everyone life (Q9:51) then he wrote that muhammad would question his judgement and logic, then make him change his mind. This sahih hadith proves allah or muhammad as false.

[@nedson6503]

Don't worry about disproving something that hasn't been proven.

[@lahleholivia7398]

@@P_Pro27 @Abdul Basit Alam The problem is...... the god of the Quran wrote before time that an illiterate 7th century mortal man would question his logic, reasoning and judgement, then ultimately make him change his mind. It is a proven scientific fact there is more chance of aliens from outer space than the god of the Quran.

[@lahleholivia7398]

@@P_Pro27 He wrote that he wanted 50. Then he wrote a mortal man would talk him down to 5. Also forgetting the Quran he wrote speaks of only 3. I know you see the problem. Ignoring it won't make it go away.

[@lahleholivia7398]

@@P_Pro27 Give me quran verse that says pray 5 times a day. Give me the quran verse that instructs you how to pray? Would be strange if the god of the universe forgot to tell his followers how they should pray to him.

[@lahleholivia7398]

@@P_Pro27 Of course you know. If you follow muhmmad on how to pray, how do you know he was doing it correctly when no instructions were given to him

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

The world *is* watching but also the world refuses to really see. I think it's hard to acknowledge how powerless 'we' are to stop this.

[@scrumbobulus]

i wanna start a blasphemous stoner rock band called “stoned to death” now

[@MalikaRose2000]

Not just stoning arenas, but also allocate space for huge markets for sex traffickers displaying their booty procured from waging war in kafir lands. Those slaves and right hand possessions (young women, girls and men) will need to kept in stables and specially constructed pens accessible to potential buyers.

[@jaiteim]

I wonder how did the idea from a desert nomad gained 1.2 B followers? Do they ever think and analyse the nonsense written in their book?

[@YEY0806]

I doubt that many of them are actually believers, most were "conditioned" to follow the religion because their leaders who converted demanded for it, you might be surprised, but many "Muslims" out there aren't really that sincere with their beliefs when away from other Muslims

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

With regards to your comments at 13.50 there are 80 informal sharia councils in Birmingham (uk) alone Aladdin.

[@ernestschroeder9762]

A camera can't be used because you can't create a picture of something living unless you can give it life.

[@kremekaramel2734]

The absurdity of Islam 🤣🤣

[@mnk6100]

Mohamed used to beat up drunk people's Narrated 'Uqba bin Al-Harith: An-Nu'man or the son of An-Nu'man was brought to the Prophet on a charge of drunkenness. So the Prophet ordered all the men present in the house, to beat him. So all of them beat him, and I was also one of them who beat him with shoes.

[@urielpolak9949]

The world is more full of weeping than we will ever understand. Hard to come to grips with. The reality is still much much worse than we fear

[@eduardojuarez1449]

Some ideologies are better than others as simple as that.

[@AnalyseThat]

All that God decrees is good. You forgot to mention that the punishment of stoning comes from the Bible not the Qur'an. Muslims who apply such ruling are clearly acting outside the jurisdiction of their scripture. you can pick and choose bad people in any society at any given time, so?

[@CryptocurrencyInsider]

There are Sharia courts in the UK and Germany. They don’t give death sentences, yet.

[@Robespierre-lI]

This is false

[@AGoddess]

I know. same here..

[@ehyamanos]

In the hood(ud)!! 🤣🤣

[@oleksijm]

Islam is bonkers.

[@germantutoring]

❤❤❤

[@calonstanni]

Bwaahahaaaaaa ...who'da thunk you'd need a prop joint! you funny!

[@Shelby._ai]

I think shia views are different and not voilant as Sunnis on these issues if you found some tell me

[@SaraAli-pu7vj]

No Muslim has asked that? ....

[@Miaowzi]

I can't believe i used to believe in stoning people.😶

[@amandadarkwood535]

religion can do that to you. Take away your empathy.

[@clauaome25]

Welcome to common sense

[@Ahmed-ze1kk]

5:10 😂😂😂😂😂

[@fatimaachy5764]

what your side has come out .taliban took over Afghanistan

[@NANOG-P8]

8:36 : IMO the recording should be shown to 4 witnesses ( blind people and women don't count because they might forget what they saw due to their small brains ) and then they should testify that the recording showed that it happened . indeed islam is the only religion

[@clauaome25]

ISLAM IS PEACE ™

[@munirone]

😢

[@SaraAli-pu7vj]

This guy is not Muslim... he is an Arab but he has no context for the text he is reading. Context is everything when you are explaining something from a certain period.

[@SaraAli-pu7vj]

This guy is not Muslim .... and never was. He is someone who has read about Islam and then presents his readings for titillation.

[@SaraAli-pu7vj]

Stoning was used in that "time" . Hence Jesus said " Let he without sin throw the first stone". This guy makes out if Muslims are still stoning people know they are not. This was something that happened at that time. Times have moved on. People have moved on. This guy needs to get a life.

[@cannabotany]

They are... just like Christians are still beating up gays...

[@darknightmare7281]

Jesus said that as to prove that no one is prove and thus no one can throw the stone at the woman and so the woman was able to continue to live

[@Husayn0318]

I'd genuinely like to ask my atheist friends a question. Most of you consider Islamic law to be cruel and barbaric. But if somebody were to rape your daughter,sister,mother or wife. Would you rather see him crucified or spend his days in a warm, comfortable and cozy prison? Like the ones you have in some Scandinavian countries.

[@bobbun]

it's different for everybody, but for me, IF it was only between these 2, i would rather have the rapist live in prison than being crucified because his is ruined when he get out of prison. also prison ain't warm and comfy.

[@Husayn0318]

@@bobbun You, my friend...are definitely an anomaly. BTW you should do a quick Google search on prisons in Denmark, Sweden, Norway or Finland.

[@bobbun]

@@Husayn0318 that's why i said it's different for everyone, also i'm not close to anyone in my family, like at all

[@Husayn0318]

@@bobbun Well! To each his own.

[@ApostateAladdin]

Did you not watch the video? It's not for rape. Be honest to yourself and others. This is horrific

[@canpak5855]

Buddy same thing is in the Torah too. I LOVE how these guys call them them ex Muslims but literally make their profit off Islamic videos. Just so you know, kid you are an ex meaning you left it

[@canpak5855]

@@monke9498 buddy If someone apostatizes from Islam, they are free to do whatever they want. The reason Prophet Muhammad told to kill apostates were, (only specific apostates) because these specific apostates in the time of Arabia would apostatize, then later on attack the prophet Muhammad and destroy communities. so in self-defence, these apostates were to be killed. Quran makes it very clear "There is no compulsion in religion". (2:256)

[@atrixsauza2068]

@@canpak5855 Then why arent this a view of any religious clerics? Pretty much all clerics agrees with punishment for apostacy.

[@canpak5855]

@@atrixsauza2068 name some plz, of Islamic apologist

[@ibcluelegal9248]

he does not believe in Torah either sonny boy. Was mo just plagiarising verses then?

[@tulpas93]

😂

[@AzamatBagatov413]

Hey apostate Alladin, can you prove from an atheistic scientific perspective why having sex with one's own parents with consent is objectively immoral? No one is harming anyone. Both father and daughter, son and mother are enjoying. No one is forcing anyone. Why is this wrong or is it right?

[@AzamatBagatov413]

@@crtfruf6582 homosexual sex ie @nal causes faecal incontinence and free flow of faeces, spread of AIDS. If a guy has behavioural consentual sex with a dog that is eager to bone the guy, then is this moral? If you're saying animals cannot give consent, they cannot consent to being killed. Killing animals bad? Or Having sex with animals bad( with behavioural consent)?

[@sweetpotato5535]

this again. a fcking homophobic comparing gay relationship with incestry, and other bizare things. nothing new to me. how y'all came up with these shit? did islamic madrasa told u these crap? first off incestry and s3x with animals are not part of lgbt. it does harm anyone since it will defect their childern and make their horrible. nevertheless muslims families are mostly the product of in.c3stry, high possibility that your parents are cousins, your religion itself has story of in.c3st story like childern of adam, when your so called prophet lut impregnated his own daughter. pretty your fcked up thoughts is either the reflection of how fcked up your religion is or how fcked up your brain is given that your parents are cousins. this BS is getting old, it's disgusting. just say that you're homophobic, just say that y'all want to put gay people to death, and go. so it's easier for us which people we should avoid.

[@AzamatBagatov413]

@@sweetpotato5535 lol apart from emotional arguments please give me a logical argument why a mother having sex with her son with contraception and consent is immoral? Is it immoral for a father to have sex with his own son (both adults, with consent)from an atheistic pov?

[@AzamatBagatov413]

@@sweetpotato5535 I was replying to a comment from crt fruf. I don't remember what he commented. 🤷

[@sweetpotato5535]

@@AzamatBagatov413 doesn't matter your homophobia is still showing.