Islamic Apologetics Ep. 2 - Argument of Literary Excellence

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The Quran is a miracle of literary excellence that cannot be duplicated. Or so say Muslims. But is it? What do we find when we examine the Quran as literature? Al Fadi and David Wood examine the claim of the literary excellence of the Quran.
Islamic scholars, like those of Christianity, believe that it is possible, through apologetics, to show that the claims of Islam and the Quran are true. In this series, Al Fadi and David Wood explore some of the logical arguments that Muslims use to prove Islam's truth to believers and defend it against attacks from non-believers.
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@antoinelles
@antoinelles 4 жыл бұрын
As atheist, I thank you for this very nice and reasonable discussion.
@siulong1394
@siulong1394 4 жыл бұрын
May God guide your path. Dio illumini il tuo cammino (e magari anche il mio).
@chandlerdarius6380
@chandlerdarius6380 3 жыл бұрын
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@claytonlyric2748
@claytonlyric2748 3 жыл бұрын
@Chandler Darius Yea, I've been using InstaFlixxer for months myself :D
@dinozaurpickupline4221
@dinozaurpickupline4221 2 жыл бұрын
Return to Christ dear brother
@boriss.861
@boriss.861 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Al and David. Responses are so important due to what has happened since May 2020 to now September 2020:
@LukeL007
@LukeL007 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot understand Arabic at all, but even I can tell in Surah 104 that Al Fadi is repeating himself.
@pinpoint3770
@pinpoint3770 4 жыл бұрын
I think you mean the quran is repeating itself
@billsamuls7620
@billsamuls7620 4 жыл бұрын
nothing about faith is proved
@yusufhissein1292
@yusufhissein1292 4 жыл бұрын
How is repeating itself prove it. You don't know Arabic and you are not muslim and if you are not reading with the intentions of seeking guidance then you are wasting your time.
@billsamuls7620
@billsamuls7620 4 жыл бұрын
@@yusufhissein1292 iv got better things to do
@LukeL007
@LukeL007 4 жыл бұрын
My point is I can tell there is repetition and regardless of what language you are using it is poor prose to write in that manner.
@arvindaable
@arvindaable 3 жыл бұрын
I Love the way you argued the point. You getting smarter everytime you argued.
@HungryManticore
@HungryManticore 4 жыл бұрын
Lord of the Rings is much more coherent and more beautifully written than the Quran. I guess Tolkien was a prophet 🤔
@ngawurraja9988
@ngawurraja9988 4 жыл бұрын
Considering tolkien wrote the book himself, he would be more good than allah, so he should be more than god in islam. Lol
@murdiprimbanichannel9814
@murdiprimbanichannel9814 4 жыл бұрын
Tolkien cannot memorize what he has written fluently without reading his novels , but 4 year old children in my neighborhood can memorize the Quran fluently from beginning till the end. The Qur an is the only book in the world that can be memorized fluently. It is a miracle.
@normalnormal1330
@normalnormal1330 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus is a man 👨
@yusufhissein1292
@yusufhissein1292 4 жыл бұрын
Lord of the ring ,can it stand the challenge of time?
@yusufhissein1292
@yusufhissein1292 4 жыл бұрын
You have eyes but you can't see , you have ears but you can not hear and you have but you can't understand.
@KA-sb9nn
@KA-sb9nn 3 жыл бұрын
I am an ex Muslim, thank the Lord Jesus! He show me the only truth, the way and Life!!! ❤️ Thank you brother David Wood for your amazing videos!!!
@dinozaurpickupline4221
@dinozaurpickupline4221 2 жыл бұрын
me too although I already followed jesus as the savior and defender of faith
@ahmedibrahimgarba4990
@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 2 жыл бұрын
Hi K A, David Wood is wrong and doesn't understand the elegance and technicality of the Qur'an. Unfortunately, David Wood misled and misguided Nabeel Qureshi. Allah promised to preserve the Holy Qur'an and has done it. Masha'allah!
@kurryman
@kurryman 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 I like how muslims would just throw around the "deceiver" card when 9/10 times you guys can never seem to correct our supposed misunderstanding. Instead, you'll just start quoting quran verses where it says allah's words cannot be changed as if that's some sort of mind bending proof. If not, you just quote mine Bible verses/strawman your way through our theology and think that you have somehow brought a coherent argument
@ahmedibrahimgarba4990
@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 2 жыл бұрын
@@kurryman Hi kurryman, your concern is acknowledged. It saddens me when we can not reason in some Theological differences. Is Jesus God? Is Jesus son of God? Is Jesus a prophet and a messenger of God? Is Jesus one in a Trinity? Where do you stand on all these? I think the answers are not far-fetched. The Qur'an is the last and final message to the whole of mankind. Is the Qur'an really from God? Yes I strongly believe it's from God because I took so much time to study and understand both the Bible and the Qur'an and I came to a conclusion.
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 you have to defend your faith, answer the points of the video.
@petrkarv
@petrkarv 4 жыл бұрын
So,Dr. Seuss isn't the writings of Allah? But no one else can write so eloquently.
@pinpoint3770
@pinpoint3770 4 жыл бұрын
allah had two spellings of ibrahim: what a eloquence! 2:258 3:68 have a look at the Arabic: they only language allah knows
@AMONICOM
@AMONICOM 4 жыл бұрын
can you wrote a Quran? Yes its easy! Copy Just Old Antic scriptures and Legends, twist a little bit and voila we have a Quran 2.0
@AMONICOM
@AMONICOM 4 жыл бұрын
@buymebluepills 😂😁😂😁😂👍
@AMONICOM
@AMONICOM 4 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Soko yes, but the Merchants of that time speak many Languages, you dont must do this. Just make some Deals and hang up at nicht infront of a Fire and the Legends and Storys comeing from self.
@AMONICOM
@AMONICOM 4 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Soko No, but He was a Merchant and other Merchants know many Languages, not all was so dump Like Mohammed. They travrled and so they meet Mohammed, and yes this Merchants also know Arabic. by the way, the most in this Area know Greek, its was the English at this time.
@trixbienxz5407
@trixbienxz5407 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 but wouldnt he be charged of plagiarism there? And he didnt even site sources cause his sources he claimed to be corrupted 😱😱😱 Mo is deeeyyymmm confusing ,, just like the Quran
@AMONICOM
@AMONICOM 4 жыл бұрын
@Trinity Is Paganism are you Muslim?
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
Let me look up something of book that starts even better : *“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.”* - ― Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities-
@TuakBir
@TuakBir 4 жыл бұрын
Take a beer! al-Lah snack bar! Turn out Charles Dickens was the last prophet after Muhammad, lol!
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
@@TuakBir LOL
@yusufhissein1292
@yusufhissein1292 4 жыл бұрын
Time of darkness can be removed by Quran.
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
@@yusufhissein1292 We can do better than that. This is the best opening to a book ever, my favorite book ... *In the beginning, was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.* *There was a man sent from God whose name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.* *The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.* :- _John the disciple of Jesus Christ._
@TuakBir
@TuakBir 4 жыл бұрын
@@yusufhissein1292 Quran only can bring darkness, Quran is a source of darkness.
@patrickjm1935
@patrickjm1935 4 жыл бұрын
The dizzle artist of the year
@siulong1394
@siulong1394 4 жыл бұрын
The best argument @shahid pk can produce is cursing me! Congratulation average Muslim! You just proved our point once more!
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 4 жыл бұрын
What God would NEED to abrogate his own words anyway? If God knows the past, present and future, there should be no need for abrogation! And THIS is why his followers are wishy-washy. They behave like their god.
@commentfreely5443
@commentfreely5443 4 жыл бұрын
what god would need his prophet to have 11 wives while everyone else had 4? got to get rid of adoption.
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 4 жыл бұрын
@sammy muhamad What? When did he do that? His words never change. Of course there is Old Testament prophesy of the Last Days when Jesus will return and those who have rejected him will be denied by him. He will separate the sheep(his followers) from the goats (those who deny him) and he will say "get away from me, you evil doers" and they will live for eternity in hell. Have you read the Gospels Sammy? My favorite is the book of John.
@optimusprime5199
@optimusprime5199 4 жыл бұрын
@@commentfreely5443 Did he had 11 wives at same time or total 11 in his lifetime?
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 4 жыл бұрын
@Keksi Circumcision wasn't abrogated in the Bible. Circumcision was for the Jews. Not the gentiles like you! Hahahahahahaha!
@braikoro3975
@braikoro3975 4 жыл бұрын
@Qui Creva Sp I have an answer 1.Because God is free to whatever He pleases 2.At the time the muslim community was going through a transitional stage so they needed transitional legislation to adapt to the new religion until they became accustomed and the final legislation adopted.
@featherpony
@featherpony 4 жыл бұрын
Ray: Symmetrical book stacking. Just like the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947. Peter: You’re right, no human being would stack books like this. Ghostbusters
@Katz777
@Katz777 4 жыл бұрын
Love your channel dear, you are so cool ! 💕🙏💕🌹
@hmao4466
@hmao4466 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved it when Al Fadi read it in arabic and then critiqued the content. That was amazing.
@balyhonak1989
@balyhonak1989 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this series
@nelsoncheng4638
@nelsoncheng4638 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure many have heard of Amna Al Sharqi of Tunisia, who was arrested and sentenced for writing "Sura Corona" several months ago. So the logic is: "Sure, try to write better than the Quran." "But if you do write, we will throw you into jail." If there are any Christians reading this, please pray for Amna Al Sharqi, that God would protect her in prison, and that He would bring her to salvation in Jesus Christ.
@jesusislord9999
@jesusislord9999 4 жыл бұрын
It’s more difficult to produce a Shakespeare play than to produce a sura in the Quran
@jesusislord9999
@jesusislord9999 4 жыл бұрын
Keksi and Mohammed wrote for a group called abdools
@jesusislord9999
@jesusislord9999 4 жыл бұрын
Esben M that’s why it’s more difficult to produce than a sura
@halalramen1406
@halalramen1406 4 жыл бұрын
Than produce a surah and show it to me buddy
@SyedMuhammadMoaz3634
@SyedMuhammadMoaz3634 Жыл бұрын
@@halalramen1406 Surah Fil Al-Fîl Mal-Fîl Wa mâ adrâka mal-fîl Lahu dhanabun radhîl, wa khurtûmun tawîl which translates as: The Elephant - What is the elephant? And what would have you know what the elephant is? It has a scraggly tail and a very long trunk.
@stuvertjohn8933
@stuvertjohn8933 4 жыл бұрын
God is love. God is good all the time.
@KA-pq3yz
@KA-pq3yz 4 жыл бұрын
Stuvert John Any proof?
@حسنالرفاعي-ع3غ
@حسنالرفاعي-ع3غ 4 жыл бұрын
are you Muslim
@حسنالرفاعي-ع3غ
@حسنالرفاعي-ع3غ 4 жыл бұрын
@Mike A Who ordered extermination and dumping
@حسنالرفاعي-ع3غ
@حسنالرفاعي-ع3غ 4 жыл бұрын
@blueray1969 you are muslim
@حسنالرفاعي-ع3غ
@حسنالرفاعي-ع3غ 4 жыл бұрын
@blueray1969 you are
@E1177-r5h
@E1177-r5h 4 жыл бұрын
The miracle of Quran is- Bring me a book that’s 114 chapters and that a kid age 7 can memorize then we will talk. Quran is not a book of Muslims, it’s a book for humanity. I will challenge any Christian panel out there.
@stevenfletcher8715
@stevenfletcher8715 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this episode and looking forward to the next. God bless you.
@alwilliams3628
@alwilliams3628 4 жыл бұрын
If the Quran is so supremely beautiful and excellent.....then why did the early caliphs burn so many of them...as many as 92% of the earliest manuscripts? And if so eminently beautiful....why make so many textual changes? and moreover, every edit made alters the meaning of the most beautiful and undeniably sacred text. Why change or alter something that perfect? Is anyone updating, editing or reshaping Michelangelo's awesome pieta statue? Does it need an updated nose job or something....or maybe a pierced lip or other change to make it better? something patently and divinely perfect needs NO CHANGES....if it is indeed true. All of this Quran perfection business is ridiculous.
@أالكَتبي-ض1غ
@أالكَتبي-ض1غ 4 жыл бұрын
i agree as ex Muslims, we know The simplest example is that they changed the word kilاing and made it a fight in all translations of the Quran and sex sاavery into wاves and This completely contradicts the Arabic version that we are reading, But they use this trick to deceive those who do not know Arabic
@ISAiah.42
@ISAiah.42 4 жыл бұрын
You are all idiots, you Worship the Antichrist himself, you all think you're guided, but you're all going to Hell. Revelation 13:14 (NLT) 14 And with all the miracles he was allowed to perform on behalf of the first beast, *he DECEIVED all the people* who belong to this world. He ordered the people to make a *GREAT STATUE of the first BEAST, WHO WAS FATALLY WOUNDED AND THEN CAME BACK TO LIFE* The cross is the mark of the beast, the beast that was fatally wounded and came back to life. (Died and Resurected) They place the cross (mark of the beast) in your forehead on Ash Wednesday and they perform the cross with their right hands The Spanish Inquisition killed you if you didn't accept the Mark of this Beast, you cannot buy or sell if you are dead. The false prophet who is the face of Christianity, is a model after the Pope's son, Cesare Borgia. You were warned not to worship this man as a god in these end times. So what statue did they build of a false god that died and resurected? What other man is being worshipped as god today? What other god, that has died and resurrected, was made into a statue? This Reveals 666 The Beast of Revelation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXmcmKeqfLiSmKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2i0ZaSKj6d1o5Y (2 mins)
@saifulfaisal4804
@saifulfaisal4804 4 жыл бұрын
Because its containt blasphemous.
@thewhisper417
@thewhisper417 4 жыл бұрын
@@ISAiah.42 hehehehe the people that think they're smart but only copy and paste things are the funniest. Even you're name Isaiah 42, look at verse 1. Muhammed didn't have a spirit, he received a book. Verse 3 shows that whomever is being spoken about here would not engage in violence. Read surah 9. And the best part of your god is he forgets to give us his name
@ISAiah.42
@ISAiah.42 4 жыл бұрын
@@thewhisper417 Moron, you idiot, do you think I think Its Muhammad, damn you idiots are dumb thats why you all are going to hell for worshiping the Antichrist, cant understand God's laws.
@isusjebogisaija96-75
@isusjebogisaija96-75 4 жыл бұрын
LORD JESUS (YESHUA) Is The KING 👑 Of The JEWS (Isaiah 53) , (Psalms 22) and (Zechariah 12 : 10) ! YESHUA IS MESSIAH (Micah 5 : 2) ! YESHUA IS ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN 🙏 (Daniel 7 : 13-14) ! YESHUA IS ALMIGHTY GOD ❤️ ADONAI ❤️ in Flesh (Isaiah 9 : 6-7) !
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@Bibi7tanevski Yes, Yeshua Akbar! El Shadi!
@ISAiah.42
@ISAiah.42 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure, keep thinking you are guided, you idiots all worship the Antichrist. Revelation 13:14 (NLT) 14 And with all the miracles he was allowed to perform on behalf of the first beast, *he DECEIVED all the people* who belong to this world. He ordered the people to make a *GREAT STATUE of the first BEAST, WHO WAS FATALLY WOUNDED AND THEN CAME BACK TO LIFE* The cross is the mark of the beast, the beast that was fatally wounded and came back to life. (Died and Resurected) They place the cross (mark of the beast) in your forehead on Ash Wednesday and they perform the cross with their right hands The Spanish Inquisition killed you if you didn't accept the Mark of this Beast, you cannot buy or sell if you are dead. The false prophet who is the face of Christianity, is a model after the Pope's son, Cesare Borgia. You were warned not to worship this man as a god in these end times. So what statue did they build of a false god that died and resurected? What other man is being worshipped as god today? What other god, that has died and resurrected, was made into a statue? This Reveals 666 The Beast of Revelation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXmcmKeqfLiSmKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2i0ZaSKj6d1o5Y (2 mins)
@ISAiah.42
@ISAiah.42 4 жыл бұрын
@INYA FACE!! Shut your mouth moron, I am not a god you moron, If i was the antichrist I would have died and resurrected and be worshiped as a god LOL You, you behind that keyboard, you cant hide boy, you already spoke to me, Hell is going to be your new home. You will burn for eternity in Hell.
@ISAiah.42
@ISAiah.42 4 жыл бұрын
@INYA FACE!! yet you worship a man as a god, you're an idiot with speculations, clearly the devil is the antichrist, a man, worshiped as a god, that was fatally wounded and came back to life, .. your evidence is non Biblical. So just wait, anyone Stupid enough to follow you, go ahead. You're going to Hell, that's God's promise. Now shut up and go worship your antichrist.
@ISAiah.42
@ISAiah.42 4 жыл бұрын
@INYA FACE!! here you go moron, Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: أَلَمْ أَعْهَدْ إِلَيْكُمْ يٰبَنِىٓ ءَادَمَ أَنْ لَّا تَعْبُدُوا الشَّيْطٰنَ  ۖ إِنَّهُۥ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُّبِينٌ "Did I not enjoin upon you, O children of Adam, that you not worship Satan - [for] indeed, he is to you a clear enemy -" (QS. Yaseen 36: Verse 60) In case you didnt know Satan is the Antichrist.
@billshepherd5090
@billshepherd5090 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe we can do a “who’s on first” with that sura.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@BILL SHEPHERD Tomorrow's pitching.
@qTions
@qTions 4 жыл бұрын
Continue with the series!
@dmitrydoom2739
@dmitrydoom2739 4 жыл бұрын
Al Fadi, quality of your videos is extremily HIGH!
@markschmitz5038
@markschmitz5038 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard of this, Shabir Ally and "perfect numbers".
@avtaras
@avtaras 4 жыл бұрын
Lol what a prick Shabir is
@avtaras
@avtaras 4 жыл бұрын
Mind you, he’s more nuanced than any other Islamic apologist
@hannahr77
@hannahr77 4 жыл бұрын
@@avtaras right more nuanced in this taqiyya
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking the truth.
@hassanandy2764
@hassanandy2764 4 жыл бұрын
Al-hamdullilah for chosen me to be a Muslim.
@aadpiraat7126
@aadpiraat7126 4 жыл бұрын
Poor you
@alexandrasevilla9690
@alexandrasevilla9690 4 жыл бұрын
Blessing to you! May God show you that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
@jokonugroho4105
@jokonugroho4105 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of literary excellence, Yoda can be a prophet 😁
@judahsamaria5250
@judahsamaria5250 4 жыл бұрын
Both Al Fadi and Dr. Wood dismantled the Quran from a literary position. Thank you for exposing the Quran as a flawed docunment that does not bring the reader to heights of joy, peace and intellectual development.
@yusufhissein1292
@yusufhissein1292 4 жыл бұрын
Even if We had sent them the angels, made the dead speak to them, and assembled before their own eyes every sign ˹they demanded˺, they still would not have believed-unless Allah so willed. But most of them are ignorant ˹of this˺. QURAN 6:111
@yusufhissein1292
@yusufhissein1292 4 жыл бұрын
@Blue Berry All the prophets performed miracles except John the Baptist and yet Jesus said among those who are born of Woman there has risen bot greater than John the Baptist. MATHEW 11:11 show me one miracle that John perrmed in the bible?
@natskaluh704
@natskaluh704 4 жыл бұрын
WoW... Classic Dr. Seuss takes me back to my childhood!!!
@nights9261
@nights9261 4 жыл бұрын
Islamic advert before this video 🤔
@romandacil3984
@romandacil3984 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of referencing Mozart or Shakespeare David should have used Tolkien. Who not only created a entire World but also the various languages to go with it (the languages came first) now that's impressive.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@Roman Dacil Or C.S. Lewis.
@brightspark7127
@brightspark7127 4 жыл бұрын
So exalted is He in whose hand is the realm of all things, and to Him you will be returned.
@murrieta78
@murrieta78 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent exegesis of argument of literary excellence
@timothybierl2746
@timothybierl2746 4 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the Quaran was written after the death of Mohamed. Hence, he did not write the Quaran but someone else wrote it. But then again, it's been rewritten several times, burning the old copies. But then again, there are over 30 variations in the Quaran. Perfect? Hardly...
@ukwelinauwazi5523
@ukwelinauwazi5523 3 жыл бұрын
mbarikiwe sana kwa kazi njema 🙏
@agcm7471
@agcm7471 4 жыл бұрын
Alfadi, can you please teach us Arabic? I hear the "you don't speak arabic" argument A LOT and I'm trying to learn on my own, but it would help a lot if you could teach us =)
@friedpickles342
@friedpickles342 2 жыл бұрын
Take some online classes
@hmz6khih
@hmz6khih 4 жыл бұрын
Read for instance chapter 111 . It is completely crazy !
@nimash6273
@nimash6273 3 жыл бұрын
"jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way" if someone can't bring a poem "like" this, Then I am the last prophet of Santa. ;D
@nobunkbibleprophecy4273
@nobunkbibleprophecy4273 4 жыл бұрын
9:30 We need to see the Arabic, Al Fadi. Muslims watching this need to see the Arabic on the screen as we saw the English translation earlier.
@nobunkbibleprophecy4273
@nobunkbibleprophecy4273 4 жыл бұрын
Do Muslims consider the sequence of Qu'ranic chapters as well as chapter-breaks and versification to be inspired?
@nobunkbibleprophecy4273
@nobunkbibleprophecy4273 4 жыл бұрын
16:40 Dude... Al, this is an angle I had not considered. Thank you for this! Sometimes the simplest things are the most difficult to find.
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
The bible easily beat the quran *Eccle 3:1-8* -To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven: A time to be born, And a time to die; A time to plant, And a time to pluck what is planted; A time to kill, And a time to heal; A time to break down, And a time to build up; A time to weep, And a time to laugh; A time to mourn, And a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, And a time to gather stones; A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing; A time to gain, And a time to lose; A time to keep, And a time to throw away; A time to tear, And a time to sew; A time to keep silence, And a time to speak; A time to love, And a time to hate; A time of war, And a time of peace.-
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
LOL unlike the Islam and Muslims the bible never claim to have scientific prooves, that is just stupid and ridiculous. The scientific method can only test the material world and gain knowledge only from what seen and felt what a ridiculous concept. The bible is the inspired word of God written by humans who have been inspired by God in their lives. the bible is about the interaction between God and Man and explains the spiritual and beyond the material. What xxx material is in the bible? what is on your mind?
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
@sammy muhamad What exactly is the problem with the floods send by God to deliver mankind from the depravity of sin and oppression happening. Almost every civilization and peoples including the ancient Sumerians and Akkadians have almost the same story. They are Chinese symbols for Noah and family in their written scripts, and some Polynesian tribes still have the name of Noah in their flood stories it seems like humanity worldwide shares a collective memory of some massive flood. Science may not have evidence for this as yet but archeologically the story exists you were not there and I was not there, I am going to believe God in this case. But is not the same story copied in the qoran, what problems you have with this story? The bible is the full history of the interaction of man with God everything is going to be told *The Good The Bad and The Ugly* . It is not about hiding stuff, it is about the truth. I am not sure why this is such a hard concept gasp humanity has fallen and bad things happen. People do bad things, however, God our Father wants to have a relationship with mankind, and the bible outlines the pathway to redemption and forgiveness for the whole human race. * For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.* . The bible makes sense it goes form The Fall and broken relationship with God to God revealing more and more of himself to us to humanity and returning, in the end, to put things right with mankind and creation.
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
​@sammy muhamad Go ahead show me where has science proven that ;). Some scientists may now say it is now unlikely and it may have been more a regional flood but they cannot totally dismiss it altogether. go ahead show me. The definitive proof. Go ahead explain what caused the rapid submersion of many aminals and plant life that give rise to numerous fossils in certain layers of rock. How do you explain the same layers of fossils in rocks high on mountain tops and low near sea levels? how do you explain the rapid change in sea level near the end of the last ice age how did the ice melt so rapidly? For fossils to form you need an environment of very low oxygen so that microbes cannot break down the aminal parts. these conditions are not very common on earth these conditions are actually rare mostly found in tar pits or marshy environments. however, fossils are everywhere in every part of the earth. They are fossils found with thousands of fish of many different species as if they were sudden capture pressed by a massive force very quickly. Answer and explain these facts and maybe you can convince me that we can dismiss the flood story but there is not enough scientific evidence to dismiss the flood all together. If you are going pure by the evidence and not by human biases. I have a lot evidence but it would make the message too long. the point is I believe God made this world and even importantly He is managing the affairs of this world.
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
@sammy muhamad Remember and note Science is not a person, ideology and infallible truth. Science is an approach and method for testing and discovering the physical world around us. The scientist method steps are basically 1) first make an observation 2) come up with a hypothesis that explains the observation 3) come up with an experiential test that confirms and disproves your hypothesis or defines the conditions for falsification of the hypotheses. 4) if the experiment confirms the hypothesis then you have a theory 5) of course this experiment has to be repeatable by others. the people who came with this approach were Christian scientists and philosophers that ask the question of how much can the natural man learn or acquire more knowledge from the natural world Francis Bacon and René Descartes instrumental figures in the European enlightenment movement and precursor to the scientific revolution.
@midnightwatchman1
@midnightwatchman1 4 жыл бұрын
@sammy muhamad My friend how do you learn if you do not dig? How can you learn if you do not ask questions, this was your natural impulse as a child? I know Islam does not support strong inquiry and the use of one's intelligence, just blind memorization with no understanding. Your brain was created and given you as a gift from God. Remember you are being formed into the image of God, Islam wants to deface and defile God's greatest creation you. So my friend please start practicing using your brain it will return to functionality with use. I know you are just obsessed about winning an argument but life is so much than winning an argument. You have not asked one single intelligent question,(amazing) you have just repeated the same statements and assertions over and over again, same from the very beginning of the discussion. You have not even proposed a single even small counter-argument to the ones I have proposed. You are little better than a preprogrammed robot with little capacity to develop new neuron pathways a well-trained parrot just repeating what you copy and paste from some random web sites or your leaders. I presented both scientific and philosophical paradigms and ideas yet ... you responded with the brain pattern of a tennis ball I have gotten better intellectual responses from an internet web trawling bot . of course idiot I can never prove anything without a shadow of a doubt that why we are call believers that why we have faith in what is unseen and the invisible. hopeful this discussion shake loose at least one brain cell.
@featherpony
@featherpony 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when Allah felt it necessary to let people thousands of years in the future know when to arrive and leave dinner at Muhammad's house. Just the other day, Muhammad invited me to his house. Imagine my relief when I was about to get in my car 2 hours early when I opened the Quran and it let me know this!
@seye8eyes
@seye8eyes 4 жыл бұрын
Me Too! Philosopher And Philatelist Purity of poetry of motion once upon a used to be a Dancer Practicing calligraphy over love And art of Kung Fu Art of fighting without fighting Becoming fluent in tears of language
@GT-xg2ow
@GT-xg2ow 4 жыл бұрын
God be with you guys n bless you🙌
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 4 жыл бұрын
Allah should have known that there would be millions and millions of writers in the world. But he didn't! And he didn't because his words are coming from an ILLITERATE trader.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@Kafir Linda Clark At lest that is what their histories have written down for us.
@Muslim58358
@Muslim58358 3 жыл бұрын
So, Fadi why didn't you produce something like sura "Kafirun" right in this episode?
@michaeladedoyin7988
@michaeladedoyin7988 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just a challenge for us(and not for muslims), it also says we are the ones to bring our witnesses.
@villehilemaa3681
@villehilemaa3681 4 жыл бұрын
Producing a chapter ”like it” is a pretty vague requirement, isn’t it? How exactly does one define whether something is ”like” the Quran or not?
@halalramen1406
@halalramen1406 4 жыл бұрын
Because you cannot only allah can
@aemiliadelroba4022
@aemiliadelroba4022 2 жыл бұрын
Your translation is incorrect, The chapter 109 : It says “ I do not worship what you worship “… present time , Then it say “ and I will never worship what you worship “ , future time . So it is linear , and I don’t think Muhammad ever worshiped any idols , I don’t think so .
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 Жыл бұрын
So what's about satanic verses?
@birgerjohansson8010
@birgerjohansson8010 4 жыл бұрын
Would the text of classic rock music be allowed to compete with the suras?
@truthcrusader4521
@truthcrusader4521 4 жыл бұрын
The Quran borrowed from other religions, gnostic gospels, non canonized uninspired books, religious fairy tales, and pre Islamic poetry. Yes they can and did write a book like it!
@spamnowyounoobs
@spamnowyounoobs 4 жыл бұрын
I have an even better refutation: If the book was so exceptional I'd know it when I read it. So why even put the challenge?
@optimusprime5199
@optimusprime5199 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe to put guilt, like quran says only sincere will understand it.
@Katz777
@Katz777 4 жыл бұрын
I think Walt Disneys books are much better, than the story with the ants I the Qoran!🤔💕🙏💕
@salmanelaouredi7420
@salmanelaouredi7420 4 жыл бұрын
False translation from Alfadi in the video at 09:42 Here is the real translation of the 109th chapter Al-Kāfirūn (The Unbelievers), It has six verses as follows: 1. Say, "O disbelievers, 2. I do not worship what you worship. 3. Nor are you worshippers of what I worship. 4. Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship. 5. Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship. 6. For you is your religion, and for me is my religion Obviously, the aforementioned verses are from the present and moving to the future tense, not from the present to the past as Alfadi stated in the video.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@SALMANE LAOUREDI Great someone with information. Would you be willing to analysis for us the words of Qur'an 109? Give us a word meanings from the Arabic and the word meanings in English of Qur'an 109; you can refer to other Qur'an verses (please list them) to assist in exemplifying a word in 109 and what it means, in Arabic (please list the example from the Qur'an) and it's corresponding English word used in translation. Or you can refer to a better meaning from German, French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Greek, Serbian, Bosnian, Bulgarian, Turkic, Farsi, Pushtu, Urdu, Malaysian or Indonesian [If you use an other language, please use it in the Roman Script so it can be verifiable in our research] Please note use of a Muslim scholar will need both the citation and when (the year) it was first published and the authors nationality and mother tongue (meaning their first language they learned). I print out in English as I do not know Arabic. Qur'an 109 Say: O unbelievers! I do not serve that which you serve, Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve: Nor am I going to serve that which you serve, Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion. In what you printed serve is changed to worship. You have also changed serve to worshipers and Of What for Him Whom. Then serve to worshiper and serve to worship. The is for shall have and me for I. Do I have that right? Next what version of the Qur'an are you using? As I have stated above will you give us the word meanings? If so given as outlined I will take on that challenge to write a chapter like 109 using equal number of words 50.
@coltonconner782
@coltonconner782 Жыл бұрын
The answer is yes ! You can copy the foundation and fill in the blanks later
@GftsandPrvlgBrand
@GftsandPrvlgBrand 4 жыл бұрын
& take heed tht God Almighty guides ppl hearts astray and to success w the same sacred book .. ☮️
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 4 жыл бұрын
The Quran is only a collection of stories, legends, and a few old Arabic tales. "Allah" seemed to be confused.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 4 жыл бұрын
@sammy muhamad He repeated the words of the prophet. If you are interested in learning the message read Psalm 22. Jesus fulfilled prophecies. Mo ... just another rambler, false prophet.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 4 жыл бұрын
@sammy muhamad That is true. GOD is not the author of confusion which is why GOD should never be associated with the confusion of men, called the Quran. It has no order, no logic, not even a narrative. Just a collection of stories and legends. By "The Jews", one must conclude you are referring to the Pharisees and Sadducees which were greatly threatened by the accurate teachings of Jesus. Religious men are threatened by Truth which exposes their corruption. There were many Jewish believers who did accept Him as the Messiah - and still do. Yeshua HaMashiach lives and reigns. MO ... DEAD powerless DUST.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 4 жыл бұрын
@Alixon Xulkarov Why do you expose your ignorance before others? That is true of the Quran. However, the Bible is the most authenticated book ever written with over 10,000 manuscripts, vellums, codices, etc. to verify its original text (probably why the Quran writers used many of its events and prophets). There are about 30 Quran versions and no one knows which is closest to the compiled original.
@zanelemkhize6987
@zanelemkhize6987 4 жыл бұрын
@Alixon Xulkarov you said that the toilet paper is more useful than the bible but then again you said 2 years ago you used the Bible as a toilet paper. So you now agree that the bible is useful??😂😂😂😂 what a testimony thank you Alixon😊 I'm glad that the bible wiped the shit out of your may it continue to do so🙏
@camronbay
@camronbay 4 жыл бұрын
I can't write anything as confusing as the koran. Did I fail or pass the test?
@TandemSix
@TandemSix 4 жыл бұрын
7:42 that sounds like something a man will say,not God. Whom is Allah serving?
@legendbennet
@legendbennet 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling us
@WinterlightningZ
@WinterlightningZ 4 жыл бұрын
Praise be to God. I could write something better than the Qur'an in my grocery list.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
Abu Doud Make sure you got camel, elephant, ass, snake, scorpion and any other critter mentioned to be either eatable or not you need to know what is.
@WinterlightningZ
@WinterlightningZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@gilbertjones9157 Uh, I'm Christian. I can eat anything I feel like eating.
@commentfreely5443
@commentfreely5443 4 жыл бұрын
the bar codes on the grocery are more interesting.
@dritonow9983
@dritonow9983 4 жыл бұрын
Showing arrogance right like the accursed Satan.. Is that the definition of a christian ?
@mohammad8660
@mohammad8660 4 жыл бұрын
Than do it, post it on your page
@anggabriel1059
@anggabriel1059 4 жыл бұрын
“It has been established that verses 1,29, 31 and 46 of Sura 54 (Surat al-Qamar) were lifted from a poem of a pre-Islamic poet, Imraul Qais. Even at the time of Muhammad, some sneered at the challenge to ‘produce a chapter like it.’ For example, the poet Imraul Qais’ daughter was still alive when Muhammad started his religion. One day this lady was listening to Muhammad reciting the ‘revelations’ he had just received hot from heaven from his Angel Jubril. She recognized the verses from her father’s poems, and stood aghast and amused, wondering how these could be a revelation written by Allah and preserved in the ‘Preserved Tablet’ in heaven from before the creation of the world!
@friedpickles342
@friedpickles342 2 жыл бұрын
Source?
@hinduhistorian3957
@hinduhistorian3957 3 жыл бұрын
One way of responding to this argument is to show the literary *impact* of the Qur'an... or rather lack thereof. I mean, there are no famous, well-known Qur'an verses that everybody's heard before. No passages that stir the heart or intrigue the mind. When slavery was abolished in the United States, Lincoln specifically made reference to a Bible passage (I believe from Mark) that said "a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand". Likewise, when Robert Oppenheimer had to live with the psychological baggage of designing the atomic bombs used in WWII, he found comfort in the Bhagavad Gita, quoting verse 11:32 "I am become Death*, Destroyer of Worlds". When has a Qur'an verse ever been cited in such a profound way, or at such historically significant occasions? *The literal Sanskrit word there is Time, but death means about the same thing in context.
@divinvarghese3501
@divinvarghese3501 4 жыл бұрын
haha for me personally this challenge itself is a sign that Allah is the fake id of mohammed.. God who is the most powerful, most intelligent is challenging a creation of it to write a book??? its like shakespear challening 6 year olds for a literary work
@halalramen1406
@halalramen1406 4 жыл бұрын
You're stupid
@islamelgebali3174
@islamelgebali3174 4 жыл бұрын
The Phone book is more inspired than the quran.
@trailrunning11vlog
@trailrunning11vlog 4 жыл бұрын
As CP said the yellow pages book is more useful than the korAn. The koran is a waste of paper
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@@trailrunning11vlog Wel that is why it is recited.
@trailrunning11vlog
@trailrunning11vlog 4 жыл бұрын
Gilbert Jones your not reciting by singing
@seye8eyes
@seye8eyes 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't consider you arguing in anyway there is a difference between dialog and communications the ones that argue are the ones that are angry In the temple of mind
@vanivor
@vanivor 4 жыл бұрын
Mash'Allah
@gentz8310
@gentz8310 4 жыл бұрын
If someone wanted to publish the Quran today for the first time, he wouldn't find a publisher
@jaisonphilip84
@jaisonphilip84 4 жыл бұрын
You guys have no clue what you are talking about. Can’t you guys differentiate between a prophecy and excellent literature? Sura 109 is another proof that it came from Allah. This sura is not an example of literary excellence. This is one of the rare prophecies Mohammed made. This is spoken to Quraishi leaders such as walid-ibn-i-muqayrah', 'as-ibn-i-wa'il', 'harith-ibn-i-qays','umiyat-ibn-i-kalaf' According to this prophecy; these guys will never worship Allah; neither will Mohammed listen to their gods. Unfortunately, both the prophecies went wrong because all Quraishes accepted Islam including those Quraishi leaders and worshipped Allah later when Mohammed conquered Maca. Mohammed temporarily acted as a prophet of their pagan gods too. Since everything went wrong in terms of fulfilment of prophecy, we have to consider this sura as abrogated. No, I am not kidding Allah is al knowing and merciful
@jphilip4724
@jphilip4724 4 жыл бұрын
Allah all knowing indeed
@ImCarolB
@ImCarolB 2 жыл бұрын
It is extremely difficult to write something like chapters in the Quran. The endless borrowings of other literature included in the Quran are so disjointed, grammatically confused, and theologically illogical that an imitator would have quite a struggle.
@ahmedibrahimgarba4990
@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Carol, The Holy Qur'an is straight to the point. Yes, it may be disjointed and seemed confusing, but what I have discovered in the Qur'an are just amazing and has given me the confidence and faith that it could not have been the invention of Muhammad (pbuh).
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 Quran is holey, not holy.
@ahmedibrahimgarba4990
@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 Жыл бұрын
@@fitzburg63 Have access to your own copy of the English translation of the Qur'an and study it yourself and you will discover many things no body ever told you before. You can read it in just 3 days, from cover to cover .
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 I speak Arabic, I don't need any translations to see the utter stupidity of your quran.
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 And I know your quran better than you. It is a booklet written by Arabs in VII and VIII century - there is nothing from any god in it. You are just a brainwashed mormon (omit second m).
@richardokeefe7410
@richardokeefe7410 4 жыл бұрын
suralikeit.com seems to have expired.
@boubacaryasindiallo8321
@boubacaryasindiallo8321 4 жыл бұрын
Actions speak louder than words Still waiting for the chapter or the verse.. So Bring it out instead of arguing
@parijal3771
@parijal3771 4 жыл бұрын
Mr David you Remember whosoever tried to find fault in Islam, converted to Islam because its true religion. Best example is your co host Mr CL Edward who converted to Islam. Congratulations and may Allah guide to truth the viewer as well. Please listen Mr Ahmed dedat. Don't believe on liers.
@haachamachama7
@haachamachama7 2 жыл бұрын
The whole "You gotta read it in Arabic!" argument doesn't make sense to me. Okay? So this is the most amazing, beautiful book ever, but only if you read it in the original language? If it's so perfect, shouldn't the translations retain that beauty?
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 Жыл бұрын
Do not require intelligence from a muslim, because you will not get it.
@Prophet_Google
@Prophet_Google 4 жыл бұрын
🤔 👕👍 *I make the Koran when I go for a number 2!* ☪️ 👖
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
3in: Mo, Shatan & Black Stone, You should submit it to the Median Press and have them do a run. We can add it to the other 37 in the collection.
@Prophet_Google
@Prophet_Google 4 жыл бұрын
@@gilbertjones9157 I have respect for CP he will have the final 38 Koran... comming soon! Enough crap in the 37 already!
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@@Prophet_Google I am not understanding the last part of your comment. Is not a reality there are 37 different Qur'ans and that there are 7 different versions of Hafs in print? Or are you of the opinion that they are all the Qur'an? Then you would agree with the Saudi Journalist who asks that a new 'clean' Qur'an be produced in a new recension?
@Prophet_Google
@Prophet_Google 4 жыл бұрын
@@gilbertjones9157 CP shall have the final word in the 38 final Koran and 8th version of HAFS. That will be the end of the CULT ISLAM.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@@Prophet_Google ooookay, fine. You betcha. By Yemine. (not a ref to anything but the Men-a-soooota dialect)
@andywong9847
@andywong9847 4 жыл бұрын
Our jobs is to reveal the truth to the most deceived people, Muslim, in the world. Jesus says. I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
@andywong9847
@andywong9847 4 жыл бұрын
@Trade master . Neither do I.
@GeoRaphaelMichael
@GeoRaphaelMichael 4 жыл бұрын
Missing Sam Shamoun on the show.
@your_utube
@your_utube 4 жыл бұрын
To the ancient Arabs who perhaps could not READ OR WRITE this would have been an amazing thing to hear and later when written in caligraphic style perhaps even more. But to an ilander, his little island is the world.
@ZeusHelios
@ZeusHelios 4 жыл бұрын
Even Mormons make the same claim for their book of Mormon. I've pointed this out to Muslims plus I've pointed out that there are many great works in history and today which includes the bible.
@tayyebdin9454
@tayyebdin9454 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this video is misrepresenting the english translation and purpose of surah 109 of the Quran - Some of the pagan chiefs of the Quraish tribe said: "O Muhammad Follow our belief and we will follow yours and we will let you enjoy all our privileges. For one year you should worship our gods and the next year we will worship your God. If your belief is better, we have enjoyed it with you; and if our belief is better, you have enjoyed it with us". Prophet Muhammad said: “I take refuge to Allah that I make no match of anything with Him". They said: "You may touch some of our gods, at least, and take a good omen from them. If you do this, we will confirm you and worship your God". Prophet Muhammad said: “I am waiting for the command of my Lord". At that moment this Chapter 109 was revealed. ۝ Say, "O disbelievers, ۝ I do not worship what you worship. ۝ Nor are you worshippers of what I worship. ۝ Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship. ۝ Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship. ۝ For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." There's emphasis on 2 major points here and it is clear that all Muslims are united and will not compromise/concede to the Pagans. If you're interested in the linguistic aspect of this short chapter go check this out - linguisticmiracle.blogspot.com/2010/05/surah-kafiroon-dream-student-notes.html?m=1
@matthiasmartin1975
@matthiasmartin1975 4 жыл бұрын
14:30 So the Quran is basically Vogon Poetry, those who have read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams will know what I mean.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@Molten Cheese Bear So who's reading, a Vogon or Dent?
@birgerjohansson8010
@birgerjohansson8010 4 жыл бұрын
Making a quranic verse.... let's see...
@abunajam6787
@abunajam6787 3 жыл бұрын
WRITING A CHAPTER LIKE THAT OF THE QUR'AN : Whereas a person can pen an account of an incident; to use this as proof that he/she has written a chapter like the Qur’an is amusing at best. The Qur’an was written between 610-632 AC (After Christ). It contains 114 chapters with each chapter having a title and begins with the benediction “In the Name of Allah the Beneficent the Merciful.” In Qur’an 2:23 (also 10:38; 11:13) Allah invites the doubters of the Qur’an: “And if you are in doubt as to that (Qur’an) which We have revealed to Our servant (Mohammad), then produce a chapter LIKE IT (like that of the Qur’an) and call on your helpers besides Allah if you are truthful.” One who wants to meet this invitation/challenge is to choose one of these 114 chapters of the Qur’an and write an original chapter “LIKE IT” giving the chapter a title and benediction.
@0brial
@0brial 4 жыл бұрын
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@aemiliadelroba4022
@aemiliadelroba4022 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of a God would use such a poor logical case to prove this ( Quran ) is from Him and not any other source ?
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 Жыл бұрын
God has nothing to do with this quran written by Arabs.
@loveandmercy9664
@loveandmercy9664 4 жыл бұрын
"Go make disciples in Greek only" awesome!!!
@JP123JP
@JP123JP 4 жыл бұрын
Muslims memorise noise and claim it is poetic and miraculous😁😁😁
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@J P So too are Tibetan bowls, gongs and cymbals.
@musqul8566
@musqul8566 4 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the book David Wood mentions at 6:18 I can't understand it
@GftsandPrvlgBrand
@GftsandPrvlgBrand 4 жыл бұрын
The deeper understanding and God knows best is that can you write something as compelling towards belief in one God as any 1 Aya.. further more ..that will last unchanged forever.. ☮️
@supersleeper8545
@supersleeper8545 4 жыл бұрын
Say, the TRUTH is God is ONE. (Quran chapter 112, verse one) The whole of Islam in one simple statement. You are welcome.
@kristyanongpinoy6809
@kristyanongpinoy6809 3 жыл бұрын
At the same time preach the gospel.For their salvation.
@ottololich612
@ottololich612 4 жыл бұрын
Woow. This gave me a boost of believe in Allah. Produce the chapter like it...... it's a challenge, do it!
@ottololich612
@ottololich612 4 жыл бұрын
@Qui Creva Sp where?
@ottololich612
@ottololich612 4 жыл бұрын
@Qui Creva Sp Plagiarism of: Wa-dhkur fi-'l-Kitaab [وَاذْكُرْ فِي الْكِتَابِ And (also) mention in the Book... The 'surah' Iman starts with a famous Qur'anic expression that is; "Wa-dhkur fi-'l-Kitab" which means: "And (Also) mention in the Book (The story of)..." (please confer to the Qur'an; see surah Maryam 19:16, 19:41, 19:51,19:5419:56). and This expression requires presence of previous verses, I think they put this expression to make Muslims feel familiar, thus not rejecting it quickly from the beginning. What could be used instead: In fact, there are many other more suitable Qur'anic expressions to plagiarize like; a Hal ataaka hadeeth [هَلْ أَتَاكَ حَدِيثُ]Has the story reached you.. (please confer to al Dhariyat 51:24 andNazi'at 79:16) or; b-"Hal ataaka nabaa[هَلْ أَتَاكَ نَبَأُ has the news reached you?" (Qur'an Saad 38:21). But all these examples are none but plagiarism, which indicates the challengers inability to bring a better (or even similar) expression. Incorrect Useage of: Reeh & RiyahWind. And make mention of the disciples in the Book, when the wind blew while they were sailing at night. (1) {wadhkur filkitabbil hawari-yeena idha asafatir ri-yahoo bihem laylan wahum yubhiroon} In the 1st verse they erroneously used the word "Riyah" for stormy wind; 'Riyah' refers to the wind that brings a blessing while 'Reeh' refers to the stormy wind or that associated with punishment in the Arabic language. So they should have used the word 'Reeh' [stormy/violent wind]. Qur'an and Sunnah Examples of Reeh and Riyah: 'Reeh'[punishment/violent wind] is mentioned in the Qur'an; see; Ibrahim 14:18, Fussilat 41:86, Dhariyat 51:43, Qamar 54:19 and Haaqqah 69:6. 'Riyah'[blessed wind] is mentioned in; Qur'an al Hijr 15:22. The Messenger of God, Muhammad (peace be upon him) used to say when the wind came (with the meaning): "O God! make it Riyah [blessed wind] and not Reeh. [punishing wind]" Basic Repeated Error: One expects that they should at least know how to use Arabic, this mistake is repeated again in verse 8, while in verse 6 they used the word 'Reeh' which indicates their ignorance of correct usage of this little Arabic word. This is a very embarrassing flaw because no educated Arab should make it. 'Surah' Iman: Verse 6 - CORRECT: And as the disciple began to walk, he saw how strong the wind was so he became afraid and began to drown. Thus he yelled asking his lord to help. (6) {wa'idh tafikal hawari'yoo yamshee ra'a shiddatar'reehi fakhafa wabada'a yaghrakoo fasa'ha birabbihee yasta'een.} Verse 8 - WRONG: And as soon as He went on the ship with him the wind calmed down and the disciples thanked Him with praise and shouted and said: (8) {wa idh rakibas safinata ma'ahoo sakanatir riyahoo lita'wihafasabbahal hawari'yoona bihamdihee wahatafoo lahoo ka'ileen} Verse 6 was linguistically correct (since Reeh was used to show a Powerful wind.) However; Verse 8 was linguistically wrong since the word Riyah was used = a Calm wind. Translation:..the calm wind [riyaah] calmed down... This is not correct since the Author is aiming to describe a powerful wind - reeh (mentioned in verse 6) calming down [into riyah]. Comical Expressions: All above criticism can be easily fixed through re-edition, but what about comic expressions like "Tayf-ul-Masih Yamshi" in verse 2, "Tafaqa Al-Hawwari Yamshi", "Fa khaf wa bad'a Yaghraq" in verse 6 and others?! Lack of Smoothness/Flow in Recitation: In addition to many crippled expressions that pop up causing marked disharmony, one does not feel the smoothness of the Qur'an in this forged surah. It would be interesting for someone to recite this 'surah' Iman on audio and compare it to Qur'anic recitation. Unnecessary Words - could easily be Removed - without altering Surah Iman's Meaning. You can notice how many (unnecessary) details are present in 'surah' Iman, especially when compared with concentrated Qur'anic narration. Words which could be Removed from 'surah' Iman, without altering it's meaning; Ayah 1: 'bi HiM' [with them] in verse 1, Ayah 2: 'la HuM' [for them] in verse 2, Ayah 4: 'min hum' [from them] in verse 4 (in fact the entire verse can be summerized to the half without any change in meaning), Ayah 8: 'ma'a hu' [with him] and 'la hu' [for him] in verse 8, Ayah 9: 'nahn' [we] and 'amama-k' [in front (of) you] in verse 9. Words/Phrases which could be Summarized: In Ayah 7: One reads; And He {The Lord} extended His hand to him and took him with it said: Oh you who has little faith, such is the reward of those who doubt. (7) {famadda biyameenihi lahoo fa'akhadhahoo biha wakala ya kalilal imani hadha jaza'ool mumtareen} "then he stretched his right (hand) to him, then he took him with it." Can't they just write"Then he took him with his right (hand).*"?!! - *[فأخذه بيده اليمنى -fa akhadhahu bi yadihi-'l yameen] Unsuitable words; In addition to lack of smoothness and ease, there is unnecessary use of unsuitable words like 'miyah' for water and 'tara'a' - see or view in verse 2. The Story itself has a Lack of Thematic Connection & Meaning: The story itself is weak and unlinked to each other in Lessons; Brief Summary of 'Surah' Iman; 1 - First disciples sought a sign - that is walking on water, 2 - then we read that the disciple was about to drown and 3 - Finally we read that the disciples praised him for a completely different reason other than walking on water, that is the stopping of the wind! This is unlike the Qur'an which has one main Thematic message in each surah, with passages and words of the aayaat working with each other to enhance that main message [see the tafsirs' on LinguisticMiracle.com Index for examples of Quranic surahs'.]. No verses or words combine together to enhance the conclusion of surah Iman. Rather, it was only like a linear story. 7 - Plagiarisms' from the Aayaat of the Qur'an: I'll try to list plagiarized Qur'anic expressions' in surah Iman; Surah Iman Plagiarisms; A -in,verse 1وَاذْكُرْ فِي الْكِتَابِ see it's mention in Qur'an; surah Maryam 19:16, 19:41, 19:51,19:54 and 19:56 B -in verse 3, An, imitation of the Qur'an when Allah says to Moses; Inni ana Allah - [ إِنِّي أَنَا اللَّهُ ]-Surely I am Allah.. [Qassas 28:30, Taha 20:14] and "afla tubsiroun" [أَفَلَا تُبْصِرُونَ See the same phrase in; Qur'an - surah Zukhruf 43:51,Dhariyat 51:21 C - in verse 4, "hatafa hatefon" [قَالَ قَائِلٌ [said in; surah Yusuf 12:10, Kahf 18:19, Saffat 37:51], A similar style of speech has been copied from the Qur'an. Verse 4: "'asaa yuBaddiLa Allah... - Perhaps Allah will change (something).. The Qur'an has a similar phrase; 'asa Rabbuna an yuBDiLa [عَسَىٰ رَبُّنَا أَن يُبْدِلَ ]Perhaps our Lord will change (something).. [Qalam 68:32] D - in verse 5, the whole verse is composed of different plagiarized expressions from the Qur'an. He {The Lord) said to him, come toward meand be a miracle for man that they may remember. (5) {kalafas'a elay'yawalitakun linnasi ayatanla'allahumu yatadhakkaroon} Plagiarism of the whole verse 5 from passages of the Qur'an: Kala [(He)قَالَ-Said] [see; al A'raf 7:12, 7:13, 7:14, 7:15, 7:16, al Baqarah 2:33, and much more examples.] Similar to the Qur'an - surah Jumu'ah 62;9 - Fas'aw elaa dhikrillah = come to the remembrance of Allah. Wa li ta-kun ayatan lin-naas Fat-h 48:20وَلِتَكُونَ آيَةً لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ. that [perhaps] they may remember Similar to Qur'an; [آيَاتِهِ لِلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَذَكَّرُونَ
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
@@ottololich612 Inferno chant 1. That's leagues better than the Quran.
@anggabriel1059
@anggabriel1059 3 жыл бұрын
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
@Frst2nxt
@Frst2nxt 4 жыл бұрын
The qur'an is less than a second rate attempt at writing an apocryphal writing. But Muhammad then says none can write anything like his silly surahs? Every surah was a dream made of rehashed personal thoughts mixed with satanic impressions during sleep paralysis. Obviously no one else has Muhammad's own selfish thoughts and dreams. Not everyone writes a rap song like Eminem. The true Prophets all agree with one another, but the quranic ayahs are not self consistent, though all be on and the same false prophet.
@power651
@power651 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we can write it because it is already human written, we can write new for animals again
@emmanuelboakye1124
@emmanuelboakye1124 4 жыл бұрын
This is a good show👍👍
@rizaanjappie
@rizaanjappie 4 жыл бұрын
Here is 1 criteria, write a book, gain 1 billion followers in 2020, we waiting...?
@TawsifEC
@TawsifEC 4 жыл бұрын
Without an appreciation for Islamic metaphysics (in relation to grammar, alphanumeric codes, numerals and letters), the argument on literary and oratory excellence will fall flat.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 4 жыл бұрын
@Tawsif Elahi Chowdhury If you are Muslim will you help us understand Qur'an 109? Are you willing to analysis for us the words of Qur'an 109? Give us word meanings for each Arabic word and the word meanings in English of Qur'an 109; you can refer to other Qur'an verses (please list them) to assist in exemplifying a word in 109 as to what it means, in Arabic (please list the example from the Qur'an) and it's corresponding English word used in translation. Or you can refer to a better meaning from German, French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Greek, Serbian, Bosnian, Bulgarian, Turkic, Farsi, Pushtu, Urdu, Malaysian or Indonesian [If you use an other language, please use it in the Latin Script so it can be verifiable in our research] Please note use of a Muslim scholar will need both the citation and when (the year) it was first published and the authors nationality and mother tongue (meaning their first language they learned). I print out in English as I do not know Arabic. Qur'an 109 Say: O unbelievers! I do not serve that which you serve, Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve: Nor am I going to serve that which you serve, Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.
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