ISP says semitrucks pulling off during snow storms could've prevented major crash

ISP says semitrucks pulling off during snow storms could've prevented major crash
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[@brotheradam]

if you ask some drivers they will tell you that lack of places to park legally at are the biggest reason they do not pull off...

[@huggar100]

They Rather get into a Major Truck Accident

[@brotheradam]

@@huggar100 Actually, it is because if they park on the road they are a hazard, and if they park somewhere illegally, they get major tickets comapred to a car parking illegally. With the closure of State rest areas along the motorways, there is a dire need for truck parking at all times of day where trucks can safely park, legally. Drivers do not want to drive in the snow and ice. They would rather park and wait the storms out. But, when there is no place to park you kind of get stuck creeping along hoping for a safe place to suddenly appear. It is actually worse in Europe...or at least Great Britain.

[@agentorange2554]

@@brotheradam Every State should have parking areas similar to the ones on the toll road in Indiana. Those parking areas have saved my butt multiple times and they do not exist in Iowa. I80 does not have ample parking for a bad weather situation, If you think your just going to pull into a truck stop and get a spot during bad weather, you're sadly mistaken.

[@brentfarvors192]

@@huggar100 No; They would rather get PAID, AND have somewhere legal to pull off...They DON'T get EITHER! So, they are FORCED to continue driving...Unlike every other profession, for LHD (long haul drivers), if you are not moving freight, you don't get PAID! If you pull off anywhere other than a over filled truck stop, you get tickets( That YOU are responsible for)

[@eightmountain9800]

@@brotheradam 💯👍

[@Jennagryphon]

Used to drive a truck myself. You are constantly hounded to get that load to its destination. The companys do not care at all about the drivers, for if anything happens its the drivers that get screwed not the company. Yet if the drivers refuse to do what the company wants, they suddenly find themselves without a job, or with only the worst posable loads. You want truckers to pull off in bad weather, give them the rights to fight back against the companys that are trying to force them to run, weather they feel it safe or not.

[@CraftAmundous]

EXACTLY!

[@steveschierholz5272]

I've never been hounded.

[@patbaron8197]

Ditto, I think the companies should take some responsibility although if it was me I would go slower but then I’m just a little old lady ☺️ also hgv vehicles can’t slow down as fast as a car.

[@stephanieaskew771]

It's never worth anyone's life just for a timely destination

[@lilliephillips5454]

Choose a different company to drive/work for! We have similar problems in other occupations! They only care about the bottom line----making MONEY!!! YOU have to decide to have character and to make 'I love me' decisions...

[@olmecman3168]

I been a Driver for 29 years and i get off the road soon as it gets bad only because risky drivers will get you into a accident and put a good driver out of business..29 years owner operator proud.

[@Anareo]

I hear that

[@petermaron8157]

To many young stupid brainless human, getting truck driver license💩🤮😱☠️⚰️

[@jdm1039]

@@petermaron8157 I've seen plenty of older Billy Big Rigger types going way too fast for conditions. Over confident and under cautious.

[@davidhaun7767]

Especially when they say chain law in effect, yeah, ill be at the Petro or Flying J.

[@youngnana3]

Thank you for all you do!!! 🙏

[@mike-sk2li]

Guess what their is an absolute shortage of legal parking. Pull into any truck stop on a nice day. You can't even find a spot. If you park on a side street you will wake up to a ticket. So pulling over is not an option.

[@jolenanussel68]

Where would you like us to park? Iowa is sadly lacking on safe and available parking for trucks!

[@yLeprechaun]

Hey! Don't bother the IA state fascists with details.

[@dbrown2430]

This is why i dont freaking leave the house when its like this. You really want to play with your life to drive in those conditions. I have seen too many pileups and been in one myself, never again!

[@majorpayne4098]

ISP could have shut the road down as well

[@billgigolo7783]

They don't have the power to do so, only the governor can do.

[@jeffevans9836]

@@billgigolo7783 Oh , so it's the gub'nor's fault as well then .

[@jmazz1127]

Yea, because people can't use common sense judgement on their own.

[@danielhildebrand4290]

In a 700 mile trip the road conditions can change 700 times.

[@eddardmurrell1342]

i have been a trucker for 35 years the big problum is they have closed up most of the truck stops so now we dont have eney were to park so we have to keep going

[@estebahngold7713]

My dispatcher said you got to make your appointment s .

[@eddardmurrell1342]

@@estebahngold7713 he can say that its not his life on the line and its not him who chould end up in jail if something goes worng and some one gets killed and the cop tell people you were careless think about it as he is not the one who has to deel with it you are

[@ivangudev5723]

And everyone cheers how easy the trucking industry is - and easy money.

[@eddardmurrell1342]

@@ivangudev5723 if they only had a clue how hard it is and all the bs we have to take and put up with

[@glenndavis4452]

Yeah. Close the highway and you have semis parked on the shoulder for half a mile or a mile. How safe is that ?

[@user-uh9lg9wg1d]

I am a 80,000 lb sled and we were tucked in at the truck stop.

[@thechristianbiker812]

THESE ARE THE SAME TROOPERS THAT WRITE US TICKETS FOR STOPPING ON EXIT RAMPS! BUT THEYRE TELLING US TO PULL OFF.

[@prvtjy]

That’s why they wanted truckers to pull off the road, so they could get that revenue from tickets instead,....Then everybody complains when the store shelves are bone dry. Hypocrites!

[@yLeprechaun]

Iowa: I Oughta Went Around

[@TheBandit7613]

@@prvtjy I got a ticket in Iowa for 5 over. 70 in a 65 in my pickup in the summer. Iowa sucks. $$$$$$$$

[@lisettedevars9423]

Um, stopping oON exit ramps is NOT pulling OFF. Off, means off.

[@KnightTemplar1000]

@trucking shenanigans repeat-----Um, stopping ON exit ramps is NOT pulling OFF. Off, means off --- It's not like no one knows when a blizzard is coming. Pull off before the blizzard. The customer would rather get their shipment late than never.

[@Mr.Mopar.23-7]

I finally work for a company that let's me decide when it's safe to continue. Take away the company's ability to force dispatch a driver and the problem will decrease.

[@trkr57]

they can try to force you to drive in bad weather BUT it IS still on you, don't feel safe park it and call, in if dispatch tries to force you to drive CALL safety!

[@josephgrenier1796]

Companies can no longer force dispatch! Their are federal laws that are in favor of drivers now. 99% of drivers have ELD and this is now an electronic paper trail. My buddy was forced a year ago to keep driving after he messaged his dispatcher he wasn't feeling good. Turns out he had a very small stroke, he filed a complaint with Federal Motor Carrier and won a decent lawsuit against the company he worked for. If your a good driver, with experience and your still being forced then move on. Plenty of great companies hiring out here.

[@Android_Warrior]

Mr. Mopar, name your company.

[@jeremylarson6920]

Hey, There isn't enough parking for trucks on a good day.

[@bigred6639]

EXACTLY!!! Then the towns have meetings to stop truck stops from being built

[@cliffordsherman7702]

Can’t park anywhere need to tell drivers an hour out and give them a place to stop there trucks. They can’t just make those 80,000 pounds sleds disappear into a puff of logic that is a lot of truck and everyone is a NIMBY when they need to stop.

[@juliaweber212]

That’s true

[@JO-ly3hi]

then when you get to a public stop there are cars in the truck spots!

[@Fongolitus]

jeez, i wonder if anyone ever thought of shipping by rail (sarcastic eyeball roll)

[@sweettrage]

Bless our truckers. One of the hardest professions. 💕

[@fedecampos8969]

You're right sweetie!

[@joh1627]

Thank you ma'am, I'm a truck driver myself and appreciate the kind words.

[@sweettrage]

@@joh1627 Please stay safe😊

[@brii1496]

I’m a truck driver as well...thank you ❤️

[@sweettrage]

@@brii1496 Hi Tawanna, stay safe💕

[@muffs55mercury61]

Companies don't want their trucks to stop as they want that load to get to it's destination regardless of the risks to the driver and other motorists. Now days dispatchers can monitor if the truck is moving or not and if it isn't then they are harassing their drivers to keep moving. I have heard of cases of drivers being threatened with not getting paid for the load if it isn't delivered on time. Retired from it four years ago and don't miss it.

[@dwaynemclaren7160]

ya tell that too the electronic log and dispatch!

[@ifyoutip]

And the government and state police think there are so many extra parking spaces everywhere.

[@sharkiesgirl8929]

Amen need to loosen the scheduled times during winter and get rid of dumb governors engine.

[@genegilbert2224]

No...Oh He#$ no... You and I repeat you are the driver of the truck no where on the electronic log does it say drive like a darn idiot in conditions like that.. Guarantee you also in this day and time of lawsuits and high dollar payouts dispatch and your company are saying please park or at least slow down and do all you can do to be safe.. Because nobody wins in senseless wreck's like this....

[@dustinscrimpsher7732]

Don't blame dispatch for your negligence. Grow a pair. Your the captain of the truck,act like it.

[@annv7485]

@@genegilbert2224 you are so wrong companies don't give a f about the drivers. They say safety first but they don't practice it. I an an owner op now in part because my life is worth more than any load working for myself is the only way to keep it that way.

[@alien5610]

It really doesn’t matter if it was semi trucks or four wheelers...everyone drives too fast for conditions.

[@charlesritter6640]

I don't

[@jamiegoodman2091]

Agreed. They upped the interstate speed limits to 70-75 thinking people would just go the speed limit (since they were speeding 10mph over when it was 65), but no, now they drive 10mph over the adjusted limit. There seem to be more and more of these multi-car pileups happening each year, and that speed - and American impatience to get somewhere quickly - is at the root of them.

[@Cdurham0708]

No they dont they simply dont brake soon enough or just hit the brake and get scared. Brakes and driving slow arent the answer for everything there ms daisy smfh

[@Cdurham0708]

@@jamiegoodman2091 uh no. No its not. Its people (i assume like you) that get scared behind the wheel in adverse conditions. Snow rain traffic construction it doesnt matter you want to slow down amd cause an impedance for those of us that are competent. Germany has higher speed limits and way fewer accidents. Has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with driver skill. 10 years of driving in ohio and ive never lost control or gotten scared. The only emotion ive ever felt behind the wheel is joy of the open road or annoyance at unskilled drivers

[@alien5610]

Whatever... If you can’t stop your vehicle in time to avoid hitting anything, you are driving too fast for the road conditions. Yeah, there are panic drivers, but if you can’t control your vehicle in adverse conditions, you are driving to fast Mr Perfect.

[@heitzelalvarenga9063]

My husband is a truck driver for 20 years and thank you Jesus He always came home 🏡 safe .🙏God have mercy ,and protect everyone ❤️🙏

[@fredricgore4698]

I’m a truck driver and I blame lack of training and experience with the training schools putting these drivers through in as little as two weeks and it’s bullshit

[@JJM-qf8dz]

Fred, 100% agreed with your comments. Example; I-70 WBND run away truck bypassed two runaway ramps, missed a pretty good size shoulder. As results of this drivers action a family was killed. Investigations facts shows that, The driver was none English speaking. Second, he was given a CDL and was hired to seat behind a wheel. Lastly? The company out of Texas who hired him had outstanding safety violations all accounts of brake failures. Who's to blame?

[@Jimraynor45]

It's not lack of training. Its lack of good judgment. These guys aren't dummies, heck, they probably all have 20 years of experience. They knew the roads, and gambled anyway. They just figured, they only got a little bit left to go.

[@charlesritter6640]

TWO WEEKS? definitely not enough time for such a dangerous, important job.

[@trkrla5113]

@@JJM-qf8dz ...Probably and most likely did not know anything about those sand dunes and or uphill runoff ramps were for!

[@josephtoombs7438]

Most of those pile ups are caused by experienced, complacent drivers with their super trucker mentality. I've only had my license for a few months and I call it a night when I don't feel comfortable in slippery conditions. I see a lot of super truckers tailgating 4wheelers and I'm stuned by their stupidity.

[@rickbuchholz2596]

I drove through there that day. The same storm went through Wisconsin and Minnesota and the roads were salted and traction was fine. Hit Iowa and driving on ice. Slowed to 40 mph and passed carefully through Iowa and got to Missouri and roads were fine again. Tell that trooper to put some salt down on their roads. There’s a reason these wrecks are always happening in Iowa. I had a load today from Chicago to Topeka. Went south I-39 to south I-55 to west I-72. It’s an extra 60 miles but I ran 70 mph all the way in 6 degree weather and avoided Iowa.

[@leestevens3702]

I agree, Iowa is horrendous!

[@bigd9526]

Also the new drivers and automatic transmission doesn't help

[@stephenhammer7357]

States are not spending money for safe parking area's for time off and inclement weather, there is no safe place to park

[@deplorablepocdetejas1989]

I agree. Neighborhood forums get plenty of complaints by Karen's not wanting semi trucks parking in or near were they live and the cities give in and create laws to keep them out so then these Trucks have to keep going down the road. Or as I've also seen pull off and park along the shoulder of the freeway.

[@dufus2273]

so you drive 70 mph cause no place to place. risk life and limb no parking places. is that what you're saying?

[@stephenhammer7357]

No i was saying ,you must have a safe area to leave the highway, plus mandated restriction's for driving time!

[@chief1193]

It’s easy to blame the truckers. They have those truckers out there running on pennies and they expect them to pull over and wait. How about paying the truckers what they are really worth and they would be able to pull over and wait.

[@HouseJawn]

Dont most truckers make minimum $80K/year?

[@johnjelinek7643]

Truckers are a bunch of dumb uneducated asses.... it is their fault...

[@richardkrause9296]

@@HouseJawn ahahahahha nope wrong ! And we don’t get to stay at home in a pandemic

[@joh1627]

@@johnjelinek7643 nah, if you think that education makes all the difference, you are the dumb one. There is a difference between good old common sense, (which isn't at all common anymore due to people letting themselves get brainwashed by the educated higher ups ) and education.

[@TruckerMark52]

@@johnjelinek7643 Where does your food supply come from? Maybe you should be paying a whole lot more for everything you buy so that truckers can earn a fair living? It is crazy that trucking paid more in 1981 than it has ever since under deregulation. If I made $30K in 1982 driving a semi what would be fair today considering 500% retail price inflation since then? The crazy part is 10-20 years ago I made double driving a truck with full company-paid benefits what my brother in-law with a PHD earned teaching college as a tenured professor. Now he and my sister, who has a masters degree in computers and management, are all angry that my wife and I own a $650K house in Metro-Denver and they can't afford their $250K house in Ohio. Whose fault is it they live somewhere with a lousy economy? Not mine and my wife's. I am retired and I still make more than my PHD brother in law does. Just since 2000 my wife and I have made $500K buying and selling primary real estate too. I have a college degree that I got since I retired. I even have a masters degree in regional sustainability planning from a PAC-12 university too. If you think it is sustainable to keep shipping food all the way across the US and keep shipping stuff halfway around the world just to save a buck you are sorely mistaken as we don't have the remaining carbon budget for that. We will be lucky to be able to ship fresh food 300 miles by 2035. So I would be planning a sustainable local food supply as well as a sustainable local economy if I were you as otherwise someday your grocery store shelves will be bare and there might not be a lot of jobs locally either.

[@laneweever2620]

Let's remind the ISP that the interstate highways were intended for BIG TRUCKS and that they are essential. Without them there is no food or fuel. While I don't want to be driving in that mess, I often have no choice. In addition, WHERE are we supposed to park? When is the last time they made provisions for emergency parking for trucks????

[@dknowles60]

wrong

[@markhouck5258]

Trooper Stickney - Isn't That A 4 Wheeler In The Ditch First ... (Why Didn't Y'all Close The Road) Always The Truckers Fault...

[@JJM-qf8dz]

Mark, remember us drivers get the blamed for everything.

[@Jimraynor45]

Truck drivers are the pirates of the road!!

[@JSkyGemini]

Don't take responsibility for your own lack of judgement. Sounds like the government. I don't need the police to tell me there's a storm and the roads are treacherous.

[@nico8587d]

Always assuming it’s 80,000 lbs. I’ve hauled way less than that and pulled off the road. Not gonna wreck my truck.

[@mrnobody8540]

@@nico8587d If you can find a place to park, city drive the homeless out of it core, they need services - like truckers, your just a cash cow

[@adeand4310]

And if people stop following 18 wheelers too close, there be less pileups

[@jamesaddie4895]

and they can stop coming over after they clear your bumper. It's to soon

[@bluestarlighting29]

They do follow truckers too close. Or try cut in front of them. Any kind of weather.

[@nattydreadlocks1973]

Why didn't the state just shut the interstate down for commercial traffic? Problem solved.

[@darrelvoyles4874]

Stop profile truckers ALL vehicles should have stayed off highways.how about commercial vehicle stop . better yet states are broke and don't pretreat the roads either or pay man power to. Treat the roads .this bullshit never happened much years ago.hey also where is the global warm weather .more B's.truckers today are or have a different mindset.then years ago.the ones getting into the industry do Not think ahead and don't care seems .more mindset issues there . ignorant training ignore.

[@JohnDoe-vm3og]

Sure ,we'll all just stay home when the roads are bad. See how much everyone cares for the repercussions of that. Gladly!

[@stevespooky9894]

john doe- i take your point- but all i would ask is just slow down- a fully loaded truck can stop or at least impact far less at 35/45 mph than 60/70 in those conditions

[@gracie2298]

I’d prefer your safety first sir. People should have extra food on hand for situations like this anyway.

[@ojay6337]

Doe and spooky I agree with spooky you should slow down and nobody's saying to stay inside but conditions where there's black ice you shouldn't be going more than 30 to 25 miles per hour and trust me in these conditions that'll even feel too fast you want to give yourself plenty of time to stop this way if you feel like you're going to slide there is hopefully enough room for you to try to stop and if you Can't stop you're not going 40 to 50 miles per hour and then sliding into 80,000 pound wall of a truck

[@CraftAmundous]

We are all so used to delays in deliveries now because of covid. I think we could manage if you kept yourself and others safe by not driving on bad road days. But the hauling companies won't let you. It's a broken system all around.

[@ygrittesnow1701]

Even if you were a day late you would get there. How many of these trucks and their cargo are not making it to their destinations anytime soon? It has to get there that is the whole point.

[@justinpoland1137]

But of course all the 4000 pound sleds have no blame… Right?

[@jamiegoodman2091]

Maybe slightly less, but 4000 pound vehicles can't cause the tremendous devastation that an 80000 lb sled can when piling at full speed into a bunch of stopped vehicles. The videos from the recent I-35 pileup in Texas really bring that point home. Completely tragic.

[@petergardner6601]

I dont understand how a trooper can say that. Are trains at fault for being heavy too? Ask yourself that next time to.pick something off the shelf at Walmart

[@RoadWarrior427]

Truckers are too ignorant to slow down in icy weather thus losing control at 80 mph and they don't care how many people they crush under their 80,000 lb crushers. Only thing important to them is making money. I How many people a year are murdered each year by truckers? Trains aren't even close in comparison. It should be called negligent homicide, not an accident.

[@trkr57]

@@RoadWarrior427 go crawl back under your rock!

[@whatwillbem6825]

@@petergardner6601 Exactly!!

[@zander88990]

This trooper is out of line for sure. It is not the fault of truckers. The highway was still open after the crash. Why was it not shut down??? You can see vehicles traveling thought the wreckage. Shame on the Iowa State Police for allowing this comment to be posted by one of their own. Shameful.

[@BNSFFREIGHTTRAIN1980]

I demand that we sign a petition and order that trooper fired

[@trkr57]

He is a SGT. thinks he knows more than anyone else!

[@cliveapps7105]

part of the problem is travelling in long trains with little space between them.Drafting saves fuel, but when something goes wrong it is not pretty.

[@robertbowersock3471]

I pay attention to weather forecasts where I'm traveling through and park it long before I get to the warning area. It doesn't matter how good you think you are driving in icy conditions. There are plenty of people in trucks and cars who don't.

[@theSword-]

She can blabber all the canned speeches she wants, but unless she has years of experience driving a truck, she has NO business being in that position, and her words mean nothing.

[@JJM-qf8dz]

Its not what you know, but who you know that got her a none deserving job as many other predecessors.

[@gregorysagegreene]

Then she'll get on the horn and push you to get the load delivered on time. Narcissistic hypocrites them all.

[@muffs55mercury61]

That's true. Companies don't care about safety only getting the loads delivered on time, regardless of who gets killed en route.

[@MysticHermit912]

@@JJM-qf8dz Or Who you blow. Just saying.

[@trkr57]

@Barb Halls It is up to the driver REGARDLESS of what dispatch says!

[@bobshowup2501]

I drive a tractor trailer for a living and I always see rigs tailgating me and others and doing stupid stuff including going to fast for conditions. Are company has now installed rear facing cameras behind the trailer and any truckers that are to close for more than 20 sec and don't appear to back off with in that time, the system red flags the video and automatically sends it to a state police database with GPS info were in real time it's sent to the local agency were the incident occurred and a trooper is dispatched to pull that truck over and I can't tell you how many trucks have been pulled over and are ticketed weekly from this new system.. I'm not saying it's always truckers faults but most don't use good judgment and create the environment for terrible crashes..

[@glenndavis4452]

See idiots like that constantly. There’s NO WAY they are going to be able to stop in time if something happens in front of them. Glad your company is doing that. In heavy traffic at lower speeds, maybe down to a truck length, but full highway speed it’s a guaranteed wreck.

[@jeffouellette9946]

It goes the same for cars and trucks. Believe me I'm not defending truck drivers because they are guilty of this.

[@vitoarchitetto5026]

God Bess your company! Tailgating in a big truck, the driver needs to be busted!

[@tonywalker6748]

And were do you think they are going to park.

[@yoooo3231]

Nowhere

[@philipbrodie9795]

Good point 🤠

[@jeffmorris8768]

Go to florida,and try to find a place to pull a truck over for the night.Last time i went through florida i parked my semi half on and half off a sidewalk in town hoping a cop would leave me alone.

[@alekisua1995]

Again, states blaming drivers instead of clearing or shutting down these highways, since they don't want spending tax payer money to get plows and winter equipment. I live in Utah and we never have this problem. Why? Cus we have PLOWS in every corner of the state. These states need to get their priorities straight instead of pointing fingers.

[@LonskiBig]

...They got to close the road....I was already west of there but it was a sheet of ice with white- outs all the way till exit 40 Flying J.........should have been closed down...

[@trkr57]

That is part of the problem! That trooper SHOULD have been checking the road and had it closed, he needs to find another job instead of just putting it on truck drivers! How did he make SGT.?

[@jeffouellette9946]

Well they don't close it down until there's an accident in Wyoming. And then it shut down for hours at a time.

[@aa-hj2fd]

It's easier to blame someone else for something after the fact when then things go wrong, than it is to say we should have been more proactive. Let the blame fall to someone else because they should have known something was going to happen, but if that person had been proactive and did somethjng else, then there would be other dire circumstances.

[@lorrieeriksen6903]

I was at the J also right before it happened. Lucky to get a spot. You do know that us truck drivers are blamed everytime! But they sure loved us driving with no restrictions during the lockdown!!! Grrrrrr

[@MickiD255]

It's always the trucker's fault, it could of been a car going to fast and lost control and the first semi had no where to go so it caused a pile up. A person just can't assume it's always a trucker's fault. Thank you all trucker's for what you do!

[@christopherthomas188]

In most cases the road are not cleared enough! ( so drivers try to get out of these storms!) no where to park even if. They pulled over!

[@usfreight]

I drove my first truckbin 1971. I try not to get into " I should have", situations. I may not run into someone but I have no control over the next guy.

[@carrieslantern9224]

So many good and true comments made I couldn't find much to add. My thanks for all the people who make it possible for me to buy good's for my home and family bless you and yours and get home safe.

[@whatwillbem6825]

Exactly without truckers we would be in a world of hurt!

[@jglore621]

Instead of sending out a warning, Iowa D.O.T. or whomever higher up the food chain should of just CLOSED the highway especially, if they've clearly been warned themselves of a bad storm with the potential to cause havoc for their residents in the areas associated with that storms path. Problem solved?!?!?! Close the interstate get your plow/salt trucks out clean the road then reopen it when its safe to do so. You can see before the 1st truck jackknife there's a car off in the ditch, plus you see a box truck the clearly drove thru that same area without any issues. Yes, speed is one factor, however there's multiple factors that contribute towards those types of pile ups. Company or Owner operator, we are the captains of our ships and the final word always lays with us...

[@TheLightbright01]

Some of the companies Want to make sure their drivers to get where they want them. And this is what happens.

[@tonyamosig5775]

I drive a simi. We aren't the problem!! We do this for a living. We have intense training for this. That cop is ignorant

[@timhoyne16]

As a 25 year driver, trucks are not "sleds" unless they are out of control. There is a safe speed for most everything, clearly traffic was going too fast.

[@jeffteague4341]

I would suspect the lack of salt also may have been a contributing factor. Iowa is notorious for not salting the highways until absolutely necessary. At the very least putting sand down would have made a tremendous difference in the outcome of the crash. I would says the amount of contempt the highway patrol has for the trucking industry was quite obvious in this troopers statement as well.

[@dknowles60]

in the end it is up to the truck driver to say no i wount go

[@juniofrancois9079]

All 4 wheelers I hope you learn what the trooper said about semi truck with 80,000 lbs can't stop even the road is clear

[@mickeyrobinson4274]

As a retired LTD/CDL, I don't understand how/why the drivers are not on the cb's warning the drivers behind them of the dangers ahead. You have to be a defensive driver out there. Thankful everyone walked away. Y'all stay safe out there.

[@robc3887]

Problem is they don’t use them, my son drives and he says hardly no one talks anymore or there just turned off if they have one. Lots of excuses out there as to why, I used to just keep mine turned down but listened for anybody reporting accidents, Smokey report, even if the chicken coupe was open or the bypass was on...now I’m aging myself..haha

[@michaelniemeyer6164]

Most drivers say nothing except for the C.B. Rambos out there. They don't even tell you what lane is closed in construction. I turned mine off years ago. They tell you nothing except B.S.

[@donaldbaker4969]

Companies don't allow CB's in their trucks. They call it a distraction. Can be terminated for that matter.

[@jtaylor3447]

How about iowa do a better job clearing the roads if you felt trucks shouldn't have been on the road then shut it down

[@lynngatrell7965]

SHE'S the president of the Iowa Motor Truck Association? Has she ever driven a truck?

[@JuanTorres-yi1hr]

Incompetent Pencil pushing jockeys ( Brokers/ Broker's staff, Co. Owners, dispatchers, receivers, etc.), have never driven a truck ( 99%), and yet!, they maneuver the so called " Professional Truck Drivers".

[@Sam-ok5xx]

Hey big truck drivers I will state patrol since all is y'all's fault so why don't you all just get off the the roads this winter and just shut down thank you very much

[@lynngatrell7965]

@@Sam-ok5xx, how long do you think stores, gas stations and your precious donut shops would stay open and stocked if we shut down, smart guy? I'll wait.

[@nojunkwork5735]

No, she hasn't but she probably has had it driven into her in the sleeper of quite a few trucks.

[@flaviolozoya]

@@lynngatrell7965 has he doesn't know what essential worker means.. probably thinks it's political..

[@furianland9097]

If the highway was that bad. Thay should of closed the interstate. But i guess its always easier to blame truck drivers.

[@txrose8768]

I say each member of the house and senate should donate part of their salary to maintaining our roads for this type of weather.

[@magicalthinkingbarbi1195]

Wouldn't it have been better. If we all stayed home🙂❤

[@donnawilliams1658]

Yes!

[@lonniebartels7237]

A lot of the problems with these massive wrecks is a lot of drivers don't have CBS in their trucks or their companies won't allow them they have CBS or when they do have a radio first thing they do is shut it off they need to learn to leave it on and listen for things like that ignore the rest

[@traceyhill6872]

Yep! And the other thing is phones and too many flip flop drivers with no experience in shifty weather. And the driver is afraid to tell dispatch that this load will be late.

[@JJM-qf8dz]

Some cant understand english.

[@youngnana3]

Wow!! I hate winter!! Bless our truckers!! Without them we would not have anything!! Stay safe out there my friends!! 🙏

[@BNSFFREIGHTTRAIN1980]

@Youngnana3 Thank you for the kind hearted ❤️ words and a 40yo young brotha says much love to you dear

[@1134EMP]

So where will all of these trucks go park?

[@romeo6749]

Pretty irresponsible for ISP to single out commercial vehicles. Guess the rental truck, cars, pickups were all traveling safe speeds, eh?

[@dustinscrimpsher7732]

It's truckers responsibility to be driving safe enough to stop when the public messes up. Ive come to a safe stop everytime because I slow down. No excuses

[@romeo6749]

@@dustinscrimpsher7732 It's everyone's responsibility. That's the point.

[@dustinscrimpsher7732]

@@romeo6749 yessir but we are professionals that should lead by example. That did not happen, and we are a much bigger target, for good reason.

[@beefsoda1]

Thanks captain hindsight!

[@NoNo-je3cc]

Imposing slower speed limit would make a huge difference in these conditions

[@Cb36900]

Yeah because we love to drive during these weather conditions 🙄

[@Sam-ok5xx]

I was being sarcastic but everybody drives too fast for conditions

[@aldermoon3178]

No doubt about it, almost everyone drives way too fast for the conditions on any interstate highway. However, the state could have helped prevent this major crash if it properly maintained roadways during inclement weather.

[@dknowles60]

no just close the road down

[@Ca-yj4il]

Those 80 thousand sleds also deliver your food, medicine, furniture, etc... not all drivers have the call to stop working in these conditions. I believe companies put the pressure on them

[@jaydownor3071]

See what happens when you get 4 weeks truck driving training

[@trkr57]

Schools ARE not the problem, The companies ARE responsible for the training! "trainers" that should NOT be training or are cutting a trainee loose too soon is the biggest part

[@melvinrexwinkle1510]

Trooper should complain to fmcsa about those dangerous elds in those trucks that force a driver to drive regardless of road conditions.

[@yamilapena4049]

Take off the ELD that's one of the reasons why trucks are forced to drive in bad weather conditions and to fast for the roadway conditions

[@Alien300Blackout]

ELD has never forced me keep driving in a bad weather,been doing this since 1995..

[@normangilbert1236]

Don't blame the elderly, use your brain,

[@normangilbert1236]

Don't blame the eld, use your brain !

[@dustinscrimpsher7732]

Been on eld for many years and never do I let it dictate my driving. I trip plan, and always check road conditions.

[@jmartmac]

Gov has money to monitor every individual for any and every perceived indiscretion but can't throw sand on the roads.

[@jeffouellette9946]

Yeah I was in Texas the day of those that accident I was on i-30 and they didn't put nothing down on the ground. Stuck on the highway for 4 1/2 hours because they didn't put nothing down. they finally decided to put salt on the bridges but they still had Bridges before we got to Dallas that were horrible. And then they want to blame truckers.

[@rayshaunedwards6572]

That's the issue they being cheap using sand. They need salt and winter melt.

[@kasmanien]

I love how the Trooper puts all the blame on the trucks but no mention of why the freakin highway was open with those conditions in the first place.It's implied ,if the road is open that is traversable , if not then it should be closed,and that's on them, not the truckers.

[@SteveSnowman]

That hill just after the scene didn't help things. No sight distance warning for oncoming.

[@saulgarcia2313]

I drive a truck and I avoid driving throughout Iowa in the winter and the reason they do not treat the highways they only scrape the road so it become a skating rink.

[@rkrk-tc1mk]

i drove 34 years never had a wrack ,,, you have wrack due to 2 weeks traning and guy is driving has no clue ,, all automatic trans ,,,keep doing this fast drving schools ,,, you see lot more of this

[@huggar100]

and did not know how to spell correctley. Must be Armenian

[@Jimraynor45]

First, its not 2 weeks of training, its 4 weeks, and no most of guys probably have lots of experience. Also, automatic trans actually improve safety. They knew the road conditions, but kept going anyway.

[@huggar100]

Your Spelling is very Poor, typicall of a Truck Driver

[@rkrk-tc1mk]

@@huggar100 if I want your opinion I will tell you what to say or write ,, obviously you have no clue just another wannabe something person,,, you are ,,

[@rkrk-tc1mk]

@@Jimraynor45 4 weeks grate,,, automatic trans grate ,, that makes you pretty steering wheel holder ,,,, just dont confuse your drive switch with reverse switch and make sure your instructor turns of your engine brake before you go solo driving

[@idahorodgersusmc]

The media and government act like this is the first snow storm ever

[@boomergirlable]

It's possible that some of the driver's didn't know of Iowa's Alert.....A lot of them feel pushed to deliver the loads & not get paid etc.......Just playing "Devil's Advocate" on who's fault.....I Thank God no one was killed! Continued Prayers for all.

[@johnhare7279]

Condition of the road is who's responsibility? Is this the first time it snowed in Iowa? Nobody told Iowa DOT it was winter time? No calendars in Iowa?

[@kb9liq]

The road can be CLOSED because of snow and the company I use to work for would still tell you to get on the road, So much for safety

[@tyronebateslibra9435]

Yea I'm an Commercial drive & they need to crack down on this Highway patrol.

[@opb7749]

Please all you with these cool super bright lights, stop hi beaming me when I wanted to change my lane! I know where my rear is! I dont need to see your stupid bright lights in my eyes! If I am not switching my lanes is simply because there is no one behind me and there is no reason for me to cut you off and trow rocks into your windshield! So cool off and drive safe! I know what Iam doing! If you really wanted to help, just turn lights off and back on.

[@markj.1929]

And if you are in the left lane to pass it is not the time for the truck being passed to accelerate. This seems to happen a lot nowadays 😕

[@septagram6028]

And this has what to do with this video?

[@michaelwright278]

Opb you must been driving very long.

[@michaelwright278]

opd you must not been driving very long. Back before CB radio that's how another driver told a passing driver it was safe to move back.

[@timknepper1041]

Its a way truckers communicate, you must be a newbie.

[@dmitryn.4403]

Hey trooper try telling that to FedEx it’s the packages more important

[@julioponce6613]

If no one can stop an 80,000 lbs truck then that would mean the trucks would still be crashing but no the traffic eventually stopped crashing so the state trooper is wrong

[@siaripop7]

Speed may have been a factor in the first jack-knife, but the rest of them could have been going 20 mph coming over that hill and they probably still wouldn't have been able to stop or even control their rig on that icy road!

[@mauricemoton1069]

Then they should have pulled off the road beforehand when they saw these road conditions

[@ivangudev5723]

20 mph if everyone is in the right lane. They have visibilty and enough distance they have 95% stop just fine. The guys in the hammer lane going 70mph they aren't stopping or have the visiblilty to stop. Seen it and experienced it mysfelf. It is terrifying when a accident happens and the hammer lane guys think its summer.

[@randominc.2251]

@@mauricemoton1069 Where ?...I will assume you think we can park anywhere?..There is one truck stop before this spot , Flying J at the 143exit....you couldn't get a truck in there..Go tell your city council you need more truckstops and see what answer you get....

[@mauricemoton1069]

@@randominc.2251 but I don’t live in Iowa so I can’t do that. Why don’t you write to the city council there in Iowa where this accident happened and tell them?

[@glenndavis4452]

@@mauricemoton1069 There were trucks parked for half a mile on the shoulder along every possible parking place for big rigs. You can’t just find a regular parking lot, needs to be huge room to safely park off road. But they did the best they could.

[@ABC-uy4fw]

They need to change speed limit when taining, snowing or icying. Speed limit is for dry conditions.

[@trkr57]

People would STILL drive too fast! People need to JUST SLOW down in bad weather!

[@chandrafaison]

All it takes is common sense stop that load can be rescheduled your life cant drivers👀

[@lisettedevars9423]

I notice no one really slows down and only a few use their hazard lights. Those flashing yellow lights help a lot. I know, I've used them but most seem unaware they exist for ALL hazards...use them.

[@ramonadsimmons7926]

Don't blame the Truck Driver.

[@Lee.Higginbotham]

The states won't shut the highways down. So this is what we get. Truckers and 4 wheelers won't do the right thing. Somebody has to be the leader. When will this madness ever stop?? Today north and south of Cedar Rapids on I380 there were wrecked semi's and cars all over. Evidently Iowa people are terrible drivers. They can't even do the basics. Turnsignals WTF is that!!

[@spikespa5208]

Non use of turn signals isn't confined to Iowa. Making other people guess what you're going to do next on the highway/streets is a nationwide phenomenon. And a lot of these trucks aren't from Iowa. Just passing through on the interstate.

[@annv7485]

@@spikespa5208 I see a lot of four wheelers ignore the fact they have turn signals very few if any semi truck. Nation wide.

[@arthureverett8220]

Shut down the interstates in dangerous weather. Problem solved and no loss of life

[@cliffordsherman7702]

More truck parking

[@soundmind192]

Lots of jobs for truck drivers all over the place. There's multiple reasons. Poor companies and pay top the list, not bad weather.

[@trkr57]

No the REGULATIONS top the list!

[@User4622Vp]

Trucking companies and shippers n receivers need to stop telling drivers to keep going

[@trkr57]

Still the drivers RESPOSIBILITY, don't feel safe driving park it and call in! if dispatch tells you to get moving call safety! Shippers/receivers WOULD rather have that load on the dock late THAN have it scattered on the road!

[@mrnobody8540]

Blame the state for not providing enough parking over the years and other regulations that force drivers due to needs of getting loads to it's drop off - drivers held up by warehouses for hours - interfering stress, pressures to hurry in order to get the work done at poor rates that hardly pay the fuel billing. A bill that will only climb thanks to Joe's anti oil policy's.

[@jeffniedert759]

the government mandated eld says we can't stop. If we wait for 5 hours then we go over our alloted time and get fined

[@ubon39]

I was in a heavy rain storm at 5 am in Tenn, The trucks were doing 80 MPH . Couldn't see more than a few feet They are the problem.

[@steveflewelling67]

Dot and dispatch makes them drive doesn't matter the weather

[@NewWaveSports229]

Tell that to the companies that forced them to drive

[@charlesritter6640]

I can understand the typical driver rear ending people, but truckers are professionals, they get so much more practice driving in conditions like these.

[@nathaneberle5526]

when I’m driving and I know that I’m heading into a snow ❄️ storm I immediately get off the road!!! I will never understand why drivers have to push the envelope there is NO LOAD that’s worth risking a crash and injuring someone PERIOD!!!!!!

[@fjb4932]

"Drive, or catch a bus home" was my last employers mindset. I got out of trucking ...

[@nathaneberle5526]

@@fjb4932 I understand what you are saying but that’s exactly why I own my own truck and trailer NOBODY is going to push me to drive when I don’t want to!!!!!

[@ChristopherTrott]

I am a passenger car driver. One time I drove in the winter from Amarillo, Texas to Joplin, Mo. in the winter. Scariest drive I ever made. Two tire lanes in one lane, most of the way. I was always looking in my rear view for trucks and cars coming up on me. I was prepared to ditch the car far on the shoulder if there was a stoppage.

[@tampitravels]

I was there... God Bless and Protect all Truckers out there this Job is a Sacrifice... Slow down or pull over until its safe to Drive no load is worth your life or the life of others

[@ry102777]

So many passing me going 70+ in icy conditions on 80 in Iowa..

[@benonemelinte3495]

Put more salt on road