Israel heading for Afghanistan style disaster due to US-UK complacency | Chris Doyle

[@abrahamlevi3556]

Talking BS!

[@semsemeini7905]

Exactly.

[@intellectualwarrior20]

Disagree completely- Iran will fall. The commentator is inconceivably naive. The war in Afghanistan was about nation building- an inconceivably ignorant policy, doomed to failure.

[@ivancho5854]

I would say that any people barely out of the stone age are incapable of supporting a modern society. It's utterly impossible if the religion is utterly incompatible with democracy.

[@cegesh1459]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Guess somone doesn't know Israel lost every war against Lebanon. 😂

[@1stLtDavis]

Nation building is how you got Japan and Germany post war. In particular Germany, you're taking a place that has virtually no history of democracy or liberalism and turning it into something a little too liberal for its own good very arguably

[@skipperclinton1087]

@intellectualwarrior: Regime change just like Iraq & WMD for an excuse!

[@intellectualwarrior20]

@@timthetiny7538 the Islamic state in Iran has only existed since 1979. I was referring to the reign of the Ayatollahs.

[@pelegshalev7359]

Problem? Just blame Israel!

[@generalstack6540]

The instability this creates globally for the safety Muslims, Christian’s and Jews cannot be understated. The fact the world has been unable to restrain this war from taking on religious undertones is a huge disappointment and bodes poorly for our short and medium term future to live in peace and stability

[@craigcooper9776]

What could this possibly have to do with religion? We all believe in the one all mighty God! It's an excuse for power & money!

[@generalstack6540]

@@craigcooper9776 it has eschatological intentions

[@Azupiru]

@@generalstack6540 Go and Understand how the Capital Order traces to the pillar capitals of the City of David. It can't be drawn out here for you, but the Order of the Qaqqadum (google it, yes, from Akkadian) traces to HURSAG, which is a homograph of AZUBIR, Saffron, from the Crocus. The solution to the cipher of the sefer of the Torah (also the HUR of HURSAG is "Instruction," tertu, the cognate of Torah) is solved with Saffron, for which the SHOFAR sound at the Eschaton... The reason you don't see it is because it is being covered up where it is being shown.

[@Azupiru]

@@craigcooper9776 Everything. lol Yeah, CAPITAL. It's the hexafoil on your dollars, the Sin of your Capital. lol Go see the pillar capitals at the US Capitol in DC, with that plague of fascists crawling all over them. That flower. That's it. That's the Crocus.

[@craigcooper9776]

@@generalstack6540 meaning the devil?

[@JohnM-yl7ly]

and by low intensity you mean rockets every day. The doubt England would not accept that, if say Scotland started lobbing a few rockets every day. How is it OK to fire rockets just because of Gaza - the speaker uses a different standard for terrorists, as if they can't help it.

[@foxale08]

This works both ways

[@N8yhdyhnb]

This guy is totally deluded

[@alexratzloff894]

No, Israel has more limited objectives in Lebanon than NATO in Afghanistan.

[@skipperclinton1087]

@alexratz: Afghanistan led by the US was all about regime change, as was Iraq. Remember, the original plan was to wax or capture OSB and the elimination of AL Queada. Then, it was mission change to defeat the Taliban, regime change!

[@enemyfromwithin]

I too am losing patience with my nation's leaders (American here). We have been too easy on Netanyahu as well as Putin, in my opinion. Time to end this, on both fronts.

[@reuvenpolonskiy2544]

How dare Jews defend themselves

[@ak203]

This Doyle guy is immersed in fantasy

[@henryvanderlinden7892]

Mr Doyle left something out. When Israel left Lebanon in 2006 resolution 1701 was adopted by most UN parties. Unifils troops were based there to implement this resolution. Huge failure. They let Hezbollah enter south Lebanon, fortify that region and posing a threat to Israel's borders. Over 80,000 Israeli were displaced in their own country because there was no buffer zone anymore. 11 months later, warnings to withdraw back to the Litani river( resolution 1701), diplomacy efforts failed, Hezbollah did not respond which eventually created this mess.

[@bluecoffee8414]

Question: Would a buffer zone really make much difference? how would a buffer zone stop Hezbollah missed attacks

[@markconway3481]

Very good point

[@Pyramidalist]

" ... what ever it likes?" THATS a crazy oppinion while seeing rockets comming to you destroing your family.

[@foxale08]

That reasoning is bidirectional

[@gfruntrue]

The critical difference is they are on Israel's border not 10000 miles away and they are shooting rockets into Israel's towns and cities. What choice would you have if the Afghans were attacking Manchester or Chicago. Israel has no choice but to fight. Diplomacy with these neighbours is not worth the paper it's written on unless they perceive Israel's strength. Welcome to the middle east!

[@pneudmatic]

Because that has worked so well in the past.

[@generalstack6540]

@@gfruntrue what if u were one of the neighbors and saw wrongful oppression? What would you do ? This needs to be solved at the negotiating table a war will drag out decades

[@alexmayorov795]

@@pneudmaticit did actually, for over 50 years

[@ragingmonk6080]

"Israel has no choice but to fight." It could go back to its 1967 borders and leave people alone as it was told to do.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Israel could get out of all of the territory it has stolen over the years for a start.

[@Morris-h7d]

Mr Doyle reasoning is so illogical and so impractical. The situation on the 6th October 2023 was that of a permanent ceasefire between Israel and Hamas that had held firm for several years.Approximately18,000 Palestinians were crossing over every day into Israel for work.Seriously ill Palestinians were being admitted into Israel for medical attention.Israel had agreed with Qatar that Qatar could subsidise the h people of Gaza with billions of dollars to develop their infrastructure.Over 100 trucks were delivering aid from the Israeli side of the border on a daily basis. On the 7th October approximately 3000 Hamas crossed over into Israel and murdered 1200 men woman and children,committed numerous rapes and took another 250 civilians hostage……I suppose mr Doyle would tell them that this is not acceptable and that they should apologise in writing!

[@casadelvino2337]

1948 only palestina, nothing judes in palestina, the land is palestina all this land❤

[@IanLynch-b7e]

​@@casadelvino2337incorrect . The ottomans who incidentally are not Palastinians conquered and occupied the land until handing it over to the British , who in turn handed it over to the Jews .

[@foxale08]

@@Morris-h7d Mowing the grass isn't exactly consistent with ceasing fire.

[@kenmurray4005]

The Americans warned Netanyahu not to go into Gaza a year ago but they ignored the USA. Netanyahu never wanted a two-State solution, that’s why he helped fund Hamas. The war criminal Netanyahu needs to be brought to The Hague for his trial.

[@maneshipocrates2264]

Why a two state? Gazans can become an autonomous part of Israel. Who wants another Middle Eastern state ruled by a dictator or Islamists?

[@markfitzpatrick7186]

@@maneshipocrates2264delusional

[@johnbekoe2973]

Thanks, and well said

[@markfitzpatrick7186]

@@maneshipocrates2264 they would be better off with a dictator.

[@kaboonali5466]

@@maneshipocrates2264even jews don’t want to be ruled by other Jews which which is why European Jews don’t want to leave Europe 😂

[@dpelpal]

America always "going to fail". Israel always "one step away from the abyss". Yet both countries only get stronger, decade after decade.😂

[@dpelpal]

@abdulaziz Just look at a graph lol

[@craigcooper9776]

@@dpelpal if Trump wins, it might

[@JohnJones-k9d]

Borrowing $1trillion every day is a sign of a strong economy, borrowing 7% of your GDP. You’re utterly clueless. China is going to bankrupt the USA, it’s not far away, trump gets in and this will be a done deal.

[@ohlordy2042]

Council for Arab-British understanding? An impartial observer, then 🙄.

[@tahaddi2005]

Israel is barbaric colonial occupier state that has occupied Palestinian land since 75 yrs (plus kk the Palestinians for the past 75 yrs simply for asking and fighting for their land).. This is the main point of the conflict.

[@droraovadia6787]

BIBI Tryed very hard to make peace with Iran, even offer them water, and to teach them Israel system to make water.. But! Iran rejected all peace offerings...

[@sursa9861]

You are a joke

[@johnbekoe2973]

No wonder you're struggling with your grammar

[@laxus2266]

Gaza was not occupied.

[@johnbekoe2973]

You can choose to believe whatever you think

[@chillxxx241]

The US doesn’t have to do anything once decides to leave. It can just leave. There are no mutual defense treaties in that region, unless you were talking about Türkiye with NATO.

[@yoavbloch]

stop taking drugs

[@cegesh1459]

Really good comentary

[@allenmoses110]

Mr. Doyle has a very vivid imagination.

[@nfdisco3484]

Israel has a moral responsibility to defend its citizens by any means necessary.

[@kethughes8266]

By necessary do you include political.

[@markfitzpatrick7186]

That’s not true. The by any means is not true. Defending yourself does not include killing children.

[@kmg474]

It's putting its citizens in greater danger, not defending them.

[@1stLtDavis]

Really? You can tell that to the allies in World War II. They specifically targeted civilians. They fire bombed Hamburg and Dresden. The british called it "dehousing" oh how very british

[@kethughes8266]

@@1stLtDavis The Germans were the 1st country in the world to bomb civilians in Poland 1939 they also bombed London before Hamburg and Dresden.

[@calee7311]

Stop being so self riteous and self absorbed. Most of you probably aren't even aware that we Israelis have lived for decades with tens of thousands of rockets being shot at us almost every day. How dare you complain that you are tired of this situation!! Most of you don't even have a clue about the real history of our region. It's sick how you people think you have a right to comment. Walk in our shoes first before you do and leave us to get on with protecting ourselves and doing what should have been done a decade ago.

[@kethughes8266]

Been here before several times settle your dispute. Hamas /Hezbollah replaced the PLO each one gets worse.This situation is not militarily manageable after 70 years it's obvious.The problem is both sides want it all and refuse to compromise.The only settlement is a political one.

[@johnbekoe2973]

Stop the occupation!!!!!!

[@ivancho5854]

Well said. Stay strong and good luck. 🇮🇱🇬🇧

[@markfitzpatrick7186]

How can you be so self righteous? Do you only listen to media like Times Radio that shields the atrocities of your nation?

[@markfitzpatrick7186]

@@calee7311 do you understand why we’re sick of this? Do you realize how important it is to stand up to atrocity?

[@The1234Franc]

This man has no clue.

[@tarlkoroban3733]

Release the sausages

[@memyself717]

Netanyhu isn't listening to anyone anymore, that's the problem.

[@wicksee]

Why should he listen to deluded fools like this guy?

[@stephentutton2060]

Israel doesn't respond to criticism, time to apply actual pressure

[@rosstocher]

If it doesn't come from Hamish i don't think many on here are able to deal with their bias. Garbage guest here with weak host.

[@tobyjones453]

Well done Mr Doyle. Talking complete sense.

[@ISREALHASGOD]

Wrong..lefty bstrd

[@davidwestwater2219]

There is never going to be a too state solution and it's delusional to think it could happen

[@user123-x2r]

Gaza Lebanon now Syria - will Israel not stop - too many innocent people are dying

[@tarunchoudhury4488]

no innocent is dying, they want this war badly to enter Jannat

[@Gamla123]

This guest is putting all the blame on Israel and Netanyahu. What a warped view of reality.

[@RainerMichelle]

Mr.Doyle should not be commenting on this subject, he has no idea what he is talking about, blaming Israel will not stop the wars, just like blaming Ukraine will not stop Russia from invading, it is a US foreign policy failure that they have not dealt differently with Iran

[@tahaddi2005]

Israel is barbaric colonial occupier state that has occupied Palestinian land since 75 yrs (plus kk the Palestinians for the past 75 yrs simply for asking and fighting for their land).. This is the main point of the conflict.

[@laserbrain7774]

It baffles me how this channel can be so lucid and rational where Israel/Palestine is concerned, and yet so bat $#!^ hysterical where Ukraine/Russia is concerned.

[@kethughes8266]

Very different situations.

[@dandananda]

This guy understands nothing about the Middle Easy or the ambitions of Iran.

[@Ian4u]

1967 borders recognized by the United Nations would put an end to the conflict. But that’s not what Israel wants.israel actually wants to expand the land grab

[@714mexicano]

They want to put all the blame on israel to find a way to peace but don’t talk about Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas.

[@archangel763]

It will be worst than Afghanistan, Israel is out of time.

[@gavinmc5285]

⚽️

[@anthonywilson336]

Drivel drivel drivel,tr bit useless all round

[@chillxxx241]

The US doesn’t have to do anything once decides to leave. It can just leave. There are no mutual defense treaties in that region, unless you were talking about Türkiye with NATO.

[@cegesh1459]

Really good comentary