ISTP vs ISFP w/ Mara (PracticalTyping), Sheila W, Jamila Mensah and DAVEOFALLPEOPLE | Type Talks E75

We compare and contrast the ISTP & ISFP personality type.
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[@Goodwin999]

I'd like to add as an ISTP our environment and the people we are around will have a significant influence on how open we are and how much emotion we show.

[@Hewhoblue]

I like how isfp explain stuff you just can’t help but feel the deep in their words while istp say it like it is (directly)

[@Magani79]

Great video! Really shows how insecure each type is at their 4th function (ISTPs afraid people think they are bad/mean, ISFPs afraid people think they are stupid) ISxPs I think you are great people :)

[@JoyceMeng22]

Absolutely @Bimbambu tV! =] That fourth function can cause insecurity. For IxxPs, it might be around how they are coming off to other people like you said. Happy you enjoyed watching!!

[@Maria-ir1wq]

I think your enneagram affects in that too not only just your type

[@goldengirl8355]

Well said! Your comment makes me curious now and I hope you’ll answer, what’s your type?

[@Magani79]

@@goldengirl8355 in OPS I'm a jumper INTJ (Ni-Fi)

[@RetroXRicardo]

As an ESFJ, at this part of my life I'm finding myself drawn to ISFP and ISTP people. There is just something so mysterious and so calming about them. I feel so zen and balanced around them and even listening to this panel. By the way, Dave is the most extroverted ISTP I've seen and met. This was great Joyce! 👏👏👏

[@J11_boohoo]

As a Ti dom I don’t think about my identity a whole lot but I constantly think about my inner philosophy or beliefs, it’s something that I think is what my life means or what my life is for, to figure out how you truly judge or view the world

[@Limette454]

But isn't that basicly your identity, ->what you believe and what you think?

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

Everyone here is low key and respectful. You should do this with ESTPs and ESFPs, then watch the fireworks. lol

[@JoyceMeng22]

Haha! There's an ESFP vs ESTP video of mine out already, quite the fireworks in that one. :)

[@hfortenberry]

My emotions are definitely visceral. I thought they were for everyone. I usually feel them in my chest, heart, stomach, face (like if I'm flushed/embarrassed), etc. If I'm speaking with someone about a really important-to-me topic, I tremble, sometimes so badly that others can see me trembling and my speech is even affected. That can be a little embarrassing. I was totally giggling listening to Sheila talk about the coffee. I could totally relate to what she was saying about being happy and enjoying the warmth of that cup of coffee and anticipating it. I think everyone CAN feel emotions viscerally but it requires you to be open to it and make space to allow for it. You have to sort of listen for the feeling in your body. I think this comes naturally with age too but if you meditate I think you learn to be more aware of your body as well. Another thing is I started noticing in my 40's that I would just suddenly feel love. Like I'd be sitting at my desk or walking through the house and some thought would enter my mind and I'd feel immense feeling of love, the kind of thing you typically would feel towards another person but there was nobody else there. I think it was just opening up to the love inside myself, not needing to have another person to experience it is a beautiful feeling. It was pretty shocking and amazing too. Before that I never imagined something like that could happen. When it happens, I'll allow myself to verbalize it by saying to the air "I love you" and it makes me smile really big. It's like I'm just talking to nothing or nobody in particular, just feeling love and having the urge to tell the universe that I'm feeling the Iove with it. 💗.

[@sheandg]

I totally relate to all this❤️ I often will just get overcome with a wave of emotions for no reason and also say out loud a thank you! I’ll close me eyes and just enjoy the moment. Lead Fi can very easily become zen masters.

[@ac-jn1iq]

Omg that’s how I shop for clothes! I scan in .5 seconds, and I know already exactly what I like. Out the door in 10 min

[@cowfromtown]

I love this. The ISFPs say they “just are” and as an INFP I would say that I am my thoughts, my ideas, my feelings etc. so essentially internal things that aren’t physically provable. Fi + Se vs. Fi + Ne responses (I like both)

[@theorycow]

I love Sheila's sewing room. Her artsy style is so wonderful!

[@user-be3hh5pp4i]

Really great Fi talk here! I like the name "emotional catalogue." My husband is an ISTP so I appreciated the Fe talk from their perspective too. -INFP

[@hfortenberry]

I totally agree Jamila that I feel Fe users are the ones who try to draw emotions out of me when I have no need to share them. And I don't like it. It feels a little bit like harassment. I've only had it happen a few times and I had to explain to them that I like to keep my feelings private. The person was an INFJ and I could tell she was not too happy with my reaction but that's just the way it is.

[@Lynn-ip9sh]

infjs are always prying me. No shade to them but omg their energy can be overwhelming.

[@JessBritvec]

I pretty much agree with everything Dave said here. (Accidentally typed his name as Fave on my phone and then had to retrain my autocorrect to get it right because it kept wanting to change it back to Fave 😆). On the topic of relating to others I pay attention to see what they want from me first, the reason why they told me something and what they are trying to get out of it. If I think they want emotional support I will give it and not talk about myself, unless the point of me talking about myself helps them feel like I really do understand them better than just saying a generic “yeah I get you,” does. I don’t necessarily have to relate to someone though, I will give support even if I can’t relate without trying to feel what they feel. If the person is looking for information or understanding I will reference myself, which is me pretty much projecting my own mental process. The point of me telling stories/giving information about myself is to give the other person more data so they might be able to relate and maybe find connections, patterns, contradictions, be affirmed by something or eliminate inaccurate possibilities, basically just have more information for their Ni (and I’m not super cognizant if they actually are using Ni or not). It’s more of a mental process where I’m getting just as much out of it as the other person would.

[@rolinapainter8874]

Hi Joyce, I have learned so much from your panel discussions. Thank you so much for making these! After listening to this panel I realized how opaque the SF types are to me. Could you do more panels on these personality types? I just can’t understand how their minds work and how their experiences and feelings. Thanks so much.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Absolutely! The next panel to be released will be an SF one with all the SF types. :)

[@pornlove99]

Great Vid!!! Really enjoyed this. Dave seems like an ESFJ, he is a really nice guy. Sheila and Jamila are so typical ISFPs .

[@lourenssianturi4373]

He is ISTP. Who in touch with his Fe. For me it is hurt for ISTP constantly smiling like him and giving feed back like him. So tiring. Usually our natural face is resting bitch face, because it is so comfortable. But people will think i am angry but i am just resting and thinking what they saying etc.

[@pornlove99]

@@lourenssianturi4373 I don't understand why you think he's an ISTP. I can't say 100% that he is not, but he sure don't seem like one. Why do I think he's an ESFJ? 1. Fe seems like his default function, he goes into it so smoothly and effortlessly. 2. His Si is something that he goes to in order to help him work something out, I've seen Dave in another interview and he was the same in that one, using a lot of Si in order to make sense of things. 3. I find his Ne very apparent. 4. With his Ti it seems labored, if you watch Dave closely you can see the strain in his face when using Ti on even quite basic topics, this is very common for people that have Ti in 4th place. Here is a big clue for you to go on , Dave has virtually no Ni. In socionics the 7th function is polr or a blind spot. Dave is very most likely an ESFJ

[@lourenssianturi4373]

@@pornlove99 he make video that explain his struggle, how to get his good and bad side. And really similar to me. If you meet me directly, i look like him. Smilling, attentive. But actually it is tiring. If all people can ignore our natural stoic face. So draining to make those emotions.

[@lourenssianturi4373]

@@pornlove99 i am not at all like mara. But if i do like mara, truly, i really in happy condition, that make me really able to relax and more unemotional in face. But i am not that lucky. I should smile often because of my work. It is tiring.

[@hfortenberry]

Re the way ISFPs and ISTPs come off, I can feel that ISFPs are feelers. They just seem to have a bit more softness, warmth and tenderness to them. ISTPs can definitely have that too but with them it can be mixed with more abrasiveness at times compared to the super charming, sensitive ISFPs. The ISFPs I know almost have a delicate quality to them, even the men. ISTPs don't feel delicate to me. Sensitive and reserved yes, but not delicate.

[@JoyceMeng22]

100000000000% agree with this

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

Ti can be a hammer or scalpel, a chainsaw or fine carving chisel. It's never a flower.

[@sheandg]

@@MrLuigiFercotti what’s funny is I have always described myself as a delicate flower

[@jbodhi15]

As an INFP, I found the whole Ni + Fi (imagining the future and knowing how one might feel) fascinating. I tend to go back to past experiences (Si) remembering how I felt (Fi), bringing those feelings back up to the surface in the present moment. But I don’t like staying there too long because it tends to be a more negative space for me. I always think “It’s a Trap!” And I have to shake myself out of that zoned out head space, and pay more attention to the actual present or possible present. I always wondered if my “emotional experience reservoir was Fi and Si, but it seems like Fi on its own can store the gamut of emotional experience.

[@robynfuller3988]

As an INFP I very much agree with what Dave said about being more stoic than flighty and emotional. But I can also relate so well from Sheila's "emotional bathing"- I do that a lot and relish those emotions

[@7of913]

Haha joyce right as I was thinking, "oh my all of those things in the shelias background are color organized you said it!" I love her aesthetics so much.

[@sheandg]

Thanks! I just have to have everything around me to look beautiful to me! I just can’t live in plain 4 wall rooms without character and color and things that make me happy.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Right?! Her set-up is so beautiful!

[@gabrielnorburg480]

When he said strong feelings are like an infection... Thank you! It's like having a fever! It's a sensation rather than a state of being. Now I know what to say next time a feeler tells me to stop bottling things up and release the caged animal that they think my feellings are 😂

[@accurate63]

Joyce ,it would be nice to see a group of ENTJs,in the future,and keep up the good work.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Great idea! Working on it. :)

[@hfortenberry]

I wonder if Sheila was trying to describe the feeling of being "ensconced" by emotion at 43:00? Yeah, basking in it, bathing in it, all good ways to describe it.

[@grounded.growing.and.glowing]

wow--sheila's words are very relatable!

[@JoyceMeng22]

So glad you could relate, Gloria! 💕

[@melh2409]

The conversation on identity was super helpful for understanding Ti / Fi! What I gathered based on commentary before 17:00: Fi identifies with a deep feeling on who they are, that is subjective / always there / difficult to explain. Even if an Fi person does different things throughout life, that feeling remains. Ti identifies with doing things, and becoming skilled in those things that are subjectively valued / enjoyable / rational & reasonable. Does this sound accurate?

[@dachoist]

Ti is not about doing things, that is arguably Se domain. I would define Ti as a subjective, impersonal assesment of reality.

[@Limette454]

@@dachoist 'subjective' is the opposite to 'impersonal', so what do you mean?😆

[@dachoist]

@@Limette454 You are right, lol. Clumsy wording, but I think most people got the point. Meaning for Ti is completely derived from subjective inner calculus. But that subjective inner calculus doesn't take into account that it itself is a part of a greater psychological apparatus that has different values. It treats all other values outside of the system as IRRELEVANT. sry caps but I really wanted to STRESS my point. sry again, couldn't resist a joke. That is my understanding of it, anyways.

[@subilee743]

this is so entertaining - i feel like nowadays im so into mbti so im so curious how people around me are thinking and processing that i end up conducting my own situations like this call. unfortunately i still am not sure of my own type lol

[@burgersandwich5014]

Sheila is special. So is Dave. So are Michael (INTJ), AsuraPsych, and John Szyhowski. It'd be cool to get on a call with them, off the record maybe. Sometimes I want to poke into the convos, but other times perhaps I'm looking for ways to just observe, to not interfere. ---- The whole Fe-Fi convo I felt could've gone down somewhere that it hadn't - going more down the line of how to bridge them, how to juggle them even - and how an Fe user (especially INTP/ISTP) can learn to linger longer, perhaps linger deeper in feelings to reach Fi. To somehow identify with the "infection", or find oneself among enemy lines, or another part of one's firmware, to feel natural in the realm of feeling. If for nothing else, then to have as a backup identity nexus, another way to capture data and decide with a trusted source (self) when the need or desire arises. I wonder if ExFP and IxFJs who have learned to wield and juggle Fe and Fi know da wae of how to replicate that ability (or what do you think it looks like you're doing on the inside? Are there certain phrases/images/thoughts you bring to mind to use as triggers for switching the Feeling mode?)

[@popupexistence9253]

DaveofallPeople and Sheila! Awesome!!!!

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yes!! What a combo haha :D Love them both to death. (You're awesome as well, Prem!!)

[@hfortenberry]

At 1:08 when Sheila is trying to understand how the ISTPs are not feeling anything, keep in mind that your brain cannot feel and think at the exact same moment because thinking and feeling are opposites/mutually exclusive. So if you are engaging thinking, then you are excluding feeling. People with thinking and feeling in the middle of their stack (INxJs, ENxPs, etc.) can more easily switch back and forth between thinking and feeling but if you've got one of the judging functions as your dominant, then the other will be inferior and you won't be able to move between them quickly. For example, you (Sheila) are probably not accessing your thinking much at all because you are using feeling instead. You will process your thinking later (...I just saw that you expressed this in the video). As an INTJ, I experience this as well. When I'm deeply engaging my Te, I usually don't feel anything unless something happens to trigger an emotion, like if someone says something mean or something like that. But generally just random emotions won't present themselves during thinking processing. It's once that shuts off that there is space to allow the emotions and they WILL push their way up as soon as they can. But Te holds them at bay when it's really busy working on something...at least for awhile. That being said, as an INTJ I do have my judging functions in the middle so I can more readily access feeling and switch between thinking and feeling. But I get what Dave is saying. I've had to explain this to feeling girlfriends in the past who thought I was just unfeeling in those moments. You see this dynamic in other parts of life too. For example, in relationship books they say if you are having an argument with your SO, then before trying to have an important conversation, count to 10. This forces your brain out of the emotional state and into the thinking state so you can be more rational and more able to resolve the conflict in a healthy way.

[@Deanna_Marie_]

Sheila dropping the truth bombs, every time she speaks. Everyone was insightful and I leaned from, but damn I feel I know the Fi/Se so much more.

[@sheandg]

Lol! I don’t know if that is a good or bad thing for some people, and if they can handle it?! I know being lead Fi it really is so hard to not speak my honest truth on how how feel and see myself. That authenticity just has to be front and center, and I can see some either loving it or hating it, so glad you enjoy it!

[@JoyceMeng22]

Yesss. Sheila's really busting out the Fi/Se truths like it's nobody's business. 🙂

[@ac-jn1iq]

I don’t relate to the pre-judging thing. Sometimes I am open-minded to a point where it has caused me problems in the past.

[@Notrealgohan]

I have a good friend i got to meet in university he is istp i made him retake test today he is istp still im isfp i feel we matched energies the moment we talked online but once we talked in person i can see it more we are chill we share similar interests and views to things..even when i told him I don’t like being around people or i get exhausted he didn’t judge me and sometimes he knows i run away from people so he calls me on phone to tell me where are u can i come im like yeah you can im just running away from the crowds he helped me in mathematical subjects I helped him with subjects that require more explanation to things he really kind and goes along with whatever i want to i naturally took the lead in friendship without intending too so whenever i see istp in fiction and online description i truly treasure him and hope we stay friends outside uni as well :)

[@ac-jn1iq]

My only problem is I have a few istp’s in my life, and we do not get along AT ALL. So curious how we could share the same type. I also question parent Se bc I was notorious for being oblivious to my environment and being messy the majority of my life. Even forgetting car keys in my car and totally forgetting up until the past two years bc I choose not to drive anymore. Or throwing dirty clothes with soap in the dryer. I have to consciously force myself not to do things like that by practicing mindfulness. On the other hand, I am very creative; I draw, write, sing, and love fashion …so I relate to the isfp’s there.

[@hfortenberry]

Ohhh woooowww, that's such a trip that Fe doesn't catalog emotions (re the dog dying conversation). I just assumed people with Fe would remember and access their feelings at least to a good degree even if not to the depth that Fi does. But I guess it makes sense that it wouldn't since it's extroverted. That's wild. I really thought everyone did that. When I feel something, it's very often a memory of a feeling and it's quite strong, just as it was originally, which is why I tend to not like to revisit negative experiences. I don't want to feel the negative feelings again. And it is easily triggered by another person expressing a situation that might have a similar feeling so if they tell me their dog died, I'd remember the feeling I had when my dog died and I'd get sad all over again. :-( When I use Fe, it feels fake (no offense to Fe users), probably because I'm contrasting that to an actual experience when using Fi, so that does not feel fake at all but it feels like a true connection with someone. Fe just feels like I'm using my manners, not much different than being sure to eat my vegetables or looking both ways when crossing the street, pretty matter of fact and no meaning or depth. But, people expect it so you have to play that game. But i prefer to be real. But yeah, as an INTJ, I definitely catalog emotions an relive them later. It's not hard for me to relate to someone if their experience is different (as Dave was thinking at 1:31) as long as there is something about it that I can tie in from my past (see example I mention below re 911). I totally agree with Sheila that I can easily and readily imagine how I would feel and thus I will share in the actual feeling with the person, even if I have not experienced the exact situation myself. I really thought everyone did this (except for like narcissists and psychopaths who have no empathy). It just seems natural. The human condition is pretty universal in it's essence so there are many ways to relate to each other's feelings. Sheila talked about taking a step inside and I guess I do that extra step but I feel like it happens almost instantaneously. I am not conscious of searching for the feeling. I just automatically relate to the person and feel with them. If I take that step inside, it happens very very quickly. And the feelings linger with me as well. That doesn't mean I will know the right words to say, I might not. But I'll feel with you. I also think me and Sheila do it more than Jamila maybe because we are much older and have a lot more life experiences to draw from. In fact, just today I was reading the first chapter of this book, by Evy Poumpouras called Becoming Bulletproof. She's an ex US Secret Service Agent and was in the building when 911 happened and she actually saw people jumping out of buildings. I was reading that book tonight while having dinner at Chili's and I started to cry a few times as I read her description of that experience and I kept putting my napkin to my face so people wouldn't see me holding back tears. But her description brought back the feelings from when it actually happened and how horrible it was. I'm old enough to remember when the towers fell. I watched the replay of the airplanes flying into the towers right after it happened and remember the devastation and shock. Not only that but I was empathizing how she must have felt being at ground zero as she described her experience. I've never been through the 911 experience but I very strongly felt empathy for her. For example she talked about how she contemplated her death as she hid under a metal table as the building fell. How she tried to be brave and keep her eyes open. How she was grateful when a child offered her a drink to wash the dust out of her mouth. I imagined those thoughts she shared and I felt. And, she talked about how a janitor walked up to her afterward with wet cloth to wipe the dust off her eyes so she could see. That kindness and others she described made me cry because it reminded me of the beautiful gestures people make during horrific struggles. There were several other examples. I finally had to just close the book so I could avoid full blown crying and then get the lump out of my throat to eat. Fe feels EXTREMELY shallow by comparison. The best way I can describe it is that it feels completely fake, like I'm just acting. But I know it serves a purpose so I learned how to do it enough to get by pretty well. And maybe I'm defining Fe in a limited way because I DO feel strongly when using Fe to think about cultural things, but then again, I think I'm probably just tapping into my Fi again and not actually using Fe there.

[@joakas1986]

This type talk was quite enlightening... I do relate a lot with the ISTPs here but I´m married to a INFP (maybe) for about 6 years now (I´m 34 now)... and most of our problems are because I can´t empatize deeply with her or her family at all and since the last 2 years I´ve been trying to push that bar/raise that level but it always came as fake or just puting a bandaid on it which did upset her like a lot. About 2 weeks ago we saw the movie "the father" and while and at the last scene, the mommy part, I was trying to go Fe-ing that bit like -how bad hard it should be to care for an elder... what would the nurse be thinking/feeling... what would I do on that situation- and then it hit me and said to myself -dude try to change your Ti to the Fe (I thought I was Ti-ing that part of the movie but now that I lookback I was actually Fe-ing)- and it felt like shifting water into a pipeline and when I did that dumb cognitive trick -I got inmersed thinking/feeling about my grandfather actually dying (to whom I´m really really close) and me being there to take care of him, then my mom, then maybe my wife, I felt slamed by those thoughts... I started feeling soo sad but kinda got back on my feet because of the public spot we were at (the movie theater) but when we got into the car and we started the talking about the movie with my wife, I tried to the same thought process while explaining it to my wife (with no cognitive functions/typology wording because she hates this psycological stuff) so I was then crusht by the weight of the emotions so hard that we had to park the car or we might get into an accident, the feels just almost paralysed me in the spot, got even a problem to breath, it was sooo strange and I´ve never actually lost anyone that close yet so I didn´t had an emotion stamp to lock on... I was building the emotion from the ground up by comparing myself in the situation with people that matter to me... so yeah everyone can do anything but how do you get to there is differente for each type. So in an Objective personality video, Dave said that some fuctions that you don´t have in your cuadra are made by combining the ones you actually have, so TI+FE= FI If I Recall correctly and yeah, that seems about right... so in regard to what sheila said to someone who does not have FI in order to feel the FI weight and truly empathize need to add more steps into the process at about 1:31, something like: Do I need to feel this? yes or no, yes because I need to learn to empathize so I can be a better person around others, so this is a good way to practice... have I felt this before? yes or no... no I haven´t... therefore what would it be like? if this happened to me I might feel (name any emotions) which will make me look like this and others might react like this o that, then it might escalate to and could couse this problems for the other around me o look dumb... STOP... GO THE OTHER WAY AROUND GET BACK TO YOURSELF AND PUSH DEEPER, if I look like this is because I feel that emotion, my eyes will be like this, I might be hard to talk or move, some sort of numbness, I might feel lost or alone, or a void somehow... why would you feel lost? why would you be alone? void? how? and so it goes until you can´t actually continue the thought process and just have to let it out in silence while the body is just letting out the energy that just rose out of nowhere... at the end, try to remember how deep you went into this place inside you, so when you need to FI instead of the FE, you have someplace to draw upon. I do think this can actually be like mastering an emotion/social skill, or maybe I´m just full of crap I don´t know... I hope this made any sense, sorry for the typos, english is not my first language...

[@noturbo]

I always say that, that i have a low RAM so cant process lots of things at once, and yep i get the feelings after i have had things happen that has taken me 2 weeks to feel how i feel like intense stuff.

[@hbyisme9094]

this needs to have timestamps for the different topics discussed

[@ClareCameron49]

As they were talking about how stoic Fi doms can seem Jamila comes in with all caps and exclamation marks 😂

[@sandradibiaso7316]

ISFPs are emotional when their values and views are disregarded or disrespected. ISFPs will cry and paint when depressed or sad. ISFPs can be neurotic.

[@lourenssianturi4373]

I see

[@kellilee6124]

Were they all told to wear black /white?

[@sheandg]

My sleeves are navy, I actually don’t own one piece of black clothing!!! 😂 but we all do look very coordinated!

[@cass8330]

I watched Schitts Creek, I googled the MBTI of the characters and Stevie was said to be an ISFP. I think maybe it was a trustworthy source, I've seen some terrible type guesses in articles/blogs. Anyway I've seen that show and 1 other interview before this one involving an ISFP.. I think ISFPs are really cool, I wish I could be more like that.

[@grumpyschnauzer]

I would have guessed David from Schitts Creek as an ISFP.

[@elenafowler4104]

What is the 'OP type' thing Dave mentioned at the very begining? I really want to find my type for that too!

[@jennylovesjesuschrist2006]

Dave resembles a younger Ryan Seacrest to me (istp) version. 😄

[@icanrelate]

Ohhh yeah! True...

[@ac-jn1iq]

I took a cognitive function test which said I’m an ni dom but questioning whether I am one of the ever-pervasive mistyped isfp or istp’s with strong ni 😬

[@joshparson6656]

Great video. Although I would be curious the differences between the types as enneagram 9's.

[@Jaxy451]

ISTPs don't talk a lot. They are definitely the strong silent type. This isnt necessarily characteristic of Ti, because INTP can talk quite a lot. So can ENTP. It's not just anout the Ti.

[@dseer13]

THey speak about Fi vs TI. But really they should compare Te vs Ti and Fi vs Fe. for things like detachment, values driven and logic/rationale differences.

[@s.u.5285]

regarding -1:10:46 -Sheila must be in flow state when she gets all happy (Fi dom) with her hot tasty (Se aux) cup of coffee in the morning. I guess the hum she is talking about is the "hum" of being in flow. INTJs need some of that to help get them get grounded I think. Fi and Se with INTJ get stuck having to sit in the back seat. I can get that Fi-Se hum but its short lived and then I have to get back to my main flow using (Ni-Te). --INTJ

[@JoyceMeng22]

This is insightful. 🙂 Yes - Sheila's Se enjoying the moment, being present, and experiencing the cup of coffee to its fullest is lovely. Interesting INTJ perspective @S. U.!

[@sheandg]

I often live in that happy flow state of good vibrations! Lol But, when the emotions turn sour that sucks because emotions are magnified with lead Fi

[@airsoftBlaine]

Good question

[@Maria-ir1wq]

As a Fi dom sometimes I wish I could say what Mara and Dave said lol 13:25

[@Dgn404]

I now have a positive bias towards isxps lol. They are a likeable bunch =]

[@icanrelate]

I wish I could've learned more about the ISTPs but they weren't as open.

[@lucymooon]

Ouch - generic emotions