Vortex Fury 5000 with AB Against Sig kilo3000 BDX

I’ve have had many people ask to make this video. They want to see the difference between the vortex fury 5000 with applied ballistics versus the Sig kilo 3000 BDX.

[@EagleEyeShooting]

Been waiting for this. Outstanding video Rick. Loved all the opinions of others.

[@joaquin-jacknava2696]

Thanks for the review Rick after watching this video I would lean towards the Vortex. Thanks for putting the time to make this video. Have a good weekend buddy.

[@tallspy7150]

Just for everyone watching. I looked at the prices (MSRP). As of October 21. Sig $1250. Vortex $2000. Do with this information as you choose.

[@70willard]

Watching this video has a lot of great info to think about . I run the kilo and would love to see the quality of glass on the vortex. Maybe a different direction to look at when going with a new bino purchase. Thanks for the great comparison video Rick .

[@texas22jack89]

Very helpful! Thank you! I plan on going with the vortex because of this video!

[@trickiejohn]

Could it be that (as an earlier poster mentioned👍) Your Sig’s are a couple of years old and had plenty of use. The ability to link to a Kestrel is a game changer. Don’t cop out Rick

[@desolwage]

Yeah, also wondered how much that "Vortex sponsoring my channel" could influence the outcome... The Sig being used doesn't look like a new one, where the Fury does look like a new one. Plus, I have watched several other comparisons on KZbin in which most of them rate the Sig as better.

[@hmoobshow2482]

@@desolwage I have both, Sig is not better they both have an edge over the other but I would buy the Vortex if I could afford the extra money

[@timrink256]

Thanks for the video. Really enjoy the channel. Be safe.

[@IY6C]

Thanks Tim

[@humbertoalvarez5854]

Thank you for your great and simple brake down of these two(2) great binoculars. I myself have been waiting for, the Vortex Fury HD 5000 AB to come back in stock at Kenzie's Optics. Your You/Tube showed them both with out any bias, with the exception of your tee-shirt.LOL Not being able to hold them both and range out in the open fields is one of the things which made choosing one over the other very difficult. Thank you for allowing the average person while at the range or even out on the streets the opportunity to give their own personal opinions. You've made my decision quite simple. I will be waiting for Kenzie to reply to my e-mail about the arrival of the Vortex Fury HD 5000 AB.

[@MK12DUDE]

Did you find out when it will be restocked?

[@brinkee7674]

No they are actually crappy binoculars that have a nice range finder capability.

[@brinkee7674]

Now the Vortex Fury 500 msrp is now $2k and the Sig kilo 6k is $999 and $1299 msrp. The Sig 6k is a nice piece of kit. In the stores they are about $100 difference. What you have is more like the Sig CANYON RANGEFINDING BINOCULAR 10X42MM which is significantly less money

[@stratos27]

Great video Rick. You sold me on the Fury's

[@kotaboy32]

Not having the need for the kestrel is where the cost savings come in. Even though the Vortex cost more, you save in the end by not needing a $600 accessory for the Sig so you actually come in cheaper with the Vortex

[@rfcdgaf]

Not only that vortex warranty covers everything including you destroying it by accident. Sig loses out big time in that

[@NameL3ss71]

why would you not need a kestrel tho?

[@anthonynalli2823]

@@NameL3ss71 The Fury has a built in AB Elite ballistics calculator. Though many still pair it with a Kestrel. Honestly, I'm not sure why.

[@tylerorth2870]

Good review! I also was able to look at these in real world applications for a while. My conclusion is constant with yours in that the vortex have better glass and have a few more options available. That being said a person needs to determine if $550 more is worth the upgrade in glass quality as it’s nearly 35% more. I do think either will suffice in our prs competitions. The optic quality is good for their price point but i think it’s important to note that in comparison to a standard Bino it would be comparable to a low to mid grade glass in which neither are all that great.

[@donpeltonen3452]

A few things that completely remove the value from this comparison. 1. It is a VORTEX SPONSORED VIDEO! This alone would reduce the credibility of the comparison to zero. 2. There is no laboratory/scientific evaluation of either device for accuracy, clarity, range, flare, or capability, etc. 3. The range was only 200yds (you don't need either at that distance unless you are golfing). 4. The evaluators were laymen off the street. Not exactly expert opinions. 5. The Vortex was provided free, and was brand new...the Sig was used, and 2 years old. Ever compared an old used optical device to a new one? Unless you are VERY meticulous with your lens preservation and cleaning, you will see a significant degradation in clarity after a very short time. (The author admitted to being tough on his equipment, as displayed by the tape on the eyepiece, and missing lens cover on his new device) 6. There was not a balanced comparison of the features available on either device. The Sig is loaded with features not included with the Vortex. Sorry, but I see no value whatsoever in this so called review. I would call this a thinly veiled advert for Vortex, even if it wasn't intended to be one. The content creator obviously doesn't have the wherewithal to understand the requirement to set a proper baseline or any standards for an effective evaluation, not to mention the need to eliminate a direct conflict of interest with sponsored content. And lastly, I own both Sig and Vortex products, and believe that they are both good manufacturers that provide quality products. Depending on my needs, I would consider buying either one of these rangefinders. Unfortunately, this video provided no usable information in which to make ANY type of comparison between these two fine products.

[@IY6C]

Lol then you put out a video showing the different things. You yap a lot spend that time reviewing a product. Unless you been a viewer of the channel you won’t know what you don’t know.

[@jacendavid]

Great video Riick!

[@hmoobshow2482]

Vortex Pros: Ergonomics Ruggedness Unlimited on board ballistics Better glass, eyecups and diopter Sig Pros: Wider FOV Extremely fast ranging laser Ballistics app is more user friendly but limited to 800 yards Cons: Oversized eyecups allowing lots of glare Really loose diopter so you’ll have to readjust them every outing, poorly made plastic eyecups

[@johngreen2039]

Hey Rick, now about,... a step by step setup / usage of ranging bino, Kestrel, scope as it would actually be used in a match,..?? Probably would be a "class", but a nice concise video of step 1 thru 12(?) to illustrate to folks how / if they are interested in using this method. Inquiring minds,.. and all that,...

[@colecash7496]

You put the price of the fury’s without AB. You were right in the video they’re 1499 and they’ve always been that price. You should’ve compared it to the sig 6000 hd it would’ve been more equal in glass quality still the vortex are more but the bad thing with sig is they only offer 5 year warranty. I have the fury and love it, I do wish your hold over would pop up faster or be on the same screen as yardage instead of the angle

[@MarcoPolo-zc6zo]

Great review! Appreciate it.

[@paulhayden255]

I have owned both the glass is about the same on both the Sigs ranged a little faster and I would say slightly better, but I like the functionally of the Vortex Furrys better with the on board sensers and the AB built in. I sold the Sigs still own the Furrys.

[@chunkycham1]

Awesome video sir!

[@snakeman48]

Looks like something I'll buy in the future. Leaning towards the Fury's. It also helps that they have mil pricing too.

[@nicholas1740]

Have a set of Sigs, I would say if you can afford the Fury's, buy them. I hunt in the west and I also hunt long range. One thing I have been very disappointed with regarding the Sigs is, they fog up and in cold weather and snowing conditions they become useless! If you're shooting in weather conditions that aren't wintery, snow, below 32 degrees, the Sigs are great.

[@shutout8888]

I should have let you review my Leica rangefinder binos while we were in WY against your 2 binos. I think mine has ballistic capabilities but I haven’t spent the time to take advantage of it.

[@hesa3656]

Thank You Sir! This was great to include others impressions. 👍🇺🇸 #22aday

[@wylecuplin3044]

Great info. Thank you.

[@latobkk830]

Excellent review video Rick - Don't worry about the length of the video as long as the quality of detail is in the vid, you are good to go.

[@beaverwhisperer3452]

Great video. I’ve been thinking of getting a pair of Fury’ just can’t bring myself to pull the trigger on them yet. Also, how are you attaching them to the tripod? Is that a special mount or did you make something? Love the channel keep the videos coming. 🇨🇦

[@IY6C]

Mount is by really right stuff great mount that clamps on one side.

[@crazyaz9468]

a completely unbiased opinion and evaluation would be to cover the Optics up and not tell the people what they were.

[@IY6C]

Well make a video then. I did my best

[@robmassa8166]

Will be interesting to match up the Sig 10K, I would think a model that is 5 years old one would think the more current model would be more clear, just a thought....

[@robmack151]

Will the Vortex talk to a Sig BDX Scope with ranging holdover reticle? Does Vortex have a similiar scope to the BDX? I've liked Vortex Scopes in the past... been tracking the Sig BDX Scope, Range Finder, Kestrel Elite package for awhile because it's pretty epic. Great review.. off to the Vortex site I go

[@IY6C]

Have not tried it but I am guessing probably not

[@oddursigurdsson3046]

Great job Sir :)

[@daleguthormsen8555]

Just wathhed, good job. the biggest evaluation and comparison would be actuaĺ rangegfinding! Ive found range finders grossly over advertised. I useca sig sauer kiloc2200 and it is inadequate regularly, even doing gongs over 600 yards, none the less a deer or such. I use vortex products, but would really appreciate a true evaluatinon of this feature! subscribing and waiting.

[@Frostytravels]

Great review man, little boo boo on the vortex? Gave you a sub. Really like your bino holder for the tripod. What is that if you do not mind ?

[@IY6C]

It is the really right stuff search soar rrs. They always seem to be out of stock good luck hope they have it. Comes in metal and a poly. I have the poly it has last 3 years so far.

[@Frostytravels]

Hey ...Thanks for the quick reply...and again great review. Thinking on getting the vortex 5000 ab @@IY6C

[@davidyencer9731]

Thanks for the video. Could you please do a video comparing the ballistic calculation capabilities of each? I feel like folks comparing the two would be using these more in that capacity.

[@nicholas1740]

Read my comment above and you'll glean some more info. Feel free to ask me any questions.

[@wisecitizenry2844]

Apples to apples 😂

[@ElfstersRiflesandReloading]

Love it!

[@drubradley8821]

Well, since those SIG's are not worth a darn... please send those to me, and I will be glad to remove the burden from your shoulders. My address is.... LOL.. just kidding, I think for now, I will have to settle for the EL-CHEAPO mono lens range finder units.. I don't know which one yet, but, it will be a year before I am willing to afford something as nice as either of these two models you have showcased, even the lessor SIG units are a bit out of reach for me at this time, maybe in about 8 months the prices of this newer technology will come down, by the time I am ready to bust the credit card again.... Well put together video, as always... I think, this whole campaign for somebody like me who is broke, will take about 3 to 4 years to build up all the toys and tools desired to do PRS efficiently. So far, I have 2.5 years behind me One step at a time, while not hurting myself $$$ as that would take all the fun out of it...Nobody likes careless debt..

[@joeya1970]

I tried the vortex and the eyecups kept coming off plus I had to tape the focus ring ( that sets the matching focus) to keep it from moving. gonna run the sig for a bit and see what happens.

[@marvfrase119]

This is the third time in your video that I’ve seen the white tape on left eye of the Vortex? Is the Vortex broken? Is the Vortex fragile? What’s the deal on the white tape, do they all come with white tape on the left eye? Can link the dope to your phone.

[@IY6C]

No the tape doesn’t normally come with it. I was at a match and I broke it. I sent it in and in a week I had it back in perfect form. Reason you see it on some videos was I had a few matches back to back for a bit so I didn’t want to send them in until I had a break in matches.

[@goneballistic]

why is there a giant tape ball on the left eyepiece of the vortex?

[@brinkee7674]

wtf happened to your Vortex binos. Don't seem durable if you need to tape them together

[@nicholas1740]

Some key points here.. You didn't have the people adjust their focus on each eye piece for their particular vision with the Sigs. Both sets of binos have a 1.5mil beam divergence. The Vortex doesn't have blue tooth, so it won't connect to a Kestrel or a phone! The Sigs will. This is a dynamic difference! Folks who don't care about blue tooth, or own a Kestrel, may not understand the benefits! This is HUGE, especially if you're guiding a hunter or calling out dope for a buddy! All you have to do is input your hunters data, and his dope into the kestrel and, it will be displayed in the Sig binos! It also factors in the angle of the shot. So if I'm shooting at a high angle up or down, I don't have to put that into a phone, it tells my Kestrel what the angle is. All I do is range, dial, shoot! My glass on the Sig was so crystal clear that when I first started using them they gave me a headache! But I got used to them quickly. I can also load up to 30 rifles in my Kestrel. The reason the Vortex is more $ is because you're paying for a warranty! I dropped my Sigs on the ground from the bed of my truck and it bent the eye cup. They not only paid for the shipping but sent me a new pair within two weeks! Sig doesn't push a warranty, they just handle it! And for those who might think I'm slighted, I have bought 3 Vortex Viper PST GEN II's in the last 3 years. But I've sold two of them because they wouldn't hold zero after a bumpy ride in the back seat of my truck. So I now own two NF scopes and have had zero issues. I still have a Vortex PST 4-16x50 FFP I bought 7 years ago that is rock solid on a long range AR.

[@IY6C]

The fury also links to kestrel but does more then the signs. Both are great. You don’t ever have to mess with app unless you want to. But with the Fury you don’t have to be linked to get your profiles of three rifles it’s all stored in the fury. Also it has sensors to get temp and altitude and more to have up to date info. It shows the drop/holds and inclination

[@nicholas1740]

@@IY6C Somehow I missed the Vortex being able to link up in the video.

[@IY6C]

It’s all good. You have a wonderful day

[@nicholas1740]

@@IY6C I went back and saw where you touched on that. So I stand corrected. I must have stepped away for a sec. I'm also in Wy. Have a good day as well!

[@ryaniam22]

It also means it contains a receiver and the government or police can send out a signal and mess up your device any time they want. I'd prefer one where that can't happen. It doesn't slow you down that much

[@SPROTIPS]

Do you think some of the clarity difference was from the different tripods?

[@IY6C]

I am not sure

[@FC2ESWS]

Have you had a chance to try the Athlon Cronus rangefinder binocs? Wondering how that compares to these 2.

[@IY6C]

Sorry I have not as of yet.

[@tykeshooting84]

Sorry, but can’t agree with this review Rick. The SIG is way better quality than the Vortex. It has ballistics and is a totally solid bit of kit. The SIG also has lifetime warranty..

[@hmoobshow2482]

Vortex has on board ballistics as well but Sig ballistic app is much more user friendly, Sig has lifetime warranty but 5 year on electronics so Vortex warranty has it beat by a mile. I wouldn’t say Sig is better “quality” Vortex has the edge when it comes to the glass quality and ruggedness.

[@ericrumpel3105]

.....well, as far as I know,.....the sig kilo 10K blows the vortex away,....Please correct me if I'm wrong since I'm on the fence between the vortex & the sig10K - TIA

[@IY6C]

I haven’t used to 10K as of yet

[@ericrumpel3105]

@@IY6C .....I mean the sig model 10K, ......not to range to 10k meters or yards.........

[@IY6C]

Sorry worded it incorrectly. I have not tried the sig 10k.

[@ericrumpel3105]

@@IY6C oh,...gottcha....Thanks fer the reply - Appreciate it.

[@ganjayoyokilla]

I wanna know what arca rail attachment that is?

[@IY6C]

Made by RRS really right stuff

[@firearmconvention946]

Does bass pro or cabelas sell either one of these products

[@IY6C]

Great question I don’t know for sure

[@sf2189]

Question Rick - I have the kilo’s connected to my Kestrel Elite with AB all linked to my Kestrel HUD. Other than an application where you need less equipment (maybe hunting), is there any reason I would want to ditch the Kilo’s for the Vortex?

[@IY6C]

Sounds like you have some solid gear. The only reason I could see is warranty and better glass

[@sf2189]

@@IY6C Yeah - I have a RAZR HD Gen II and a Viper PST II. I have to assume the glass difference is comparable to those two. The Viper looks great till you look through the RAZR, but perfectly functional. I use my Kestrel too much for recording environmentals when doing load development - but I see the appeal of having great glass and one piece of equipment if you didnt have a ballistic computer or are used to using a mobile phone. As always thanks for the great content.

[@tylerorth2870]

@@sf2189 they are more comparable to the diamondbacks honestly. I really wish they put razor glass in them but I’m sure if they did it would price them out of competition as they just can’t compete with Swarovski and Leica.

[@sf2189]

If that’s the case then I wonder what my BDXs compare to. Lol. I agree with you on the pricing out. I mean my kilos are good enough and frankly I just want to range find and send to my kestrel.

[@tylerorth2870]

@@sf2189 I think the bdx glass quality is on par with 200-300 standard Bino glass. But really that’s what your paying for. $400-450 range finder and $300 Bino gets you to the ~cost of the bdx. Step up to the $400-$500 Bino quality in the fury and that’s what you get with the vortex range finding Bino offering. Neither of these are quality glass by any stretch of the imagination but both do their intended purpose exceptionally well. Would I want to be using these for glassing out west, hell no, but will they be a great rangefinder and much better than a standard handheld RF.

[@ericb.4358]

BUT... will the Vortex Fury "talk"via Bluetooth to a Kestrel and vice/versa? The SIG Kilo300 will do that AND talk to one of three SIG Sierra6 scopes.

[@IY6C]

Yes sir it will link up like sig and also store data so you don’t have to have kestrel linked to it. It will hold 3 profiles of rifles.

[@tonygreve5504]

the vortex does not link to any scopes and also do not even hold a candle to the sig 10k binos . comparing vortex just released to sigs 4 year old model is comical . and the vortex bias in this video is strong lol

[@tonygreve5504]

I shoot multiple guns out to a mile fairly easy with sig range and before I can get eye relief in scope my hold over an windage are in scope vortex does not compare. So yea well worth the $ difference and sig will drop a way point on base maps

[@tonygreve5504]

@hunter s the 10k is way beyond the vortex in comparison the kilo 3000 is very much the same game at the same price range

[@tonygreve5504]

@hunter s the display alone could sell you 10k does not flip screen data like the vortex and gives you speed and force at target giving data for ethical decision making. You won't regret the 10k buy once cry once but with out regrets for settling for less. By the way the green tint spoken in video is on purpose so you can read display better

[@gcoy19]

Should be comparing to the sig 10k. This isn’t an apples to apples comparison.

[@IY6C]

When this was made even sig didn’t know they would build a 10k

[@kkeen2010]

Too bad Vortex doesn’t have a BDX exchange system like Sig does.

[@jebbum1998]

Not really a review more like a commercial for vortex.

[@Baldcurious]

So ,you got discount code for Vortex ? :)

[@IY6C]

Nope

[@wbhawkes]

You lost me with the GIANT Vortex ad on your chest. BIASED. I don't buy your opinion. Sorry. And you have a jacked-up set of Vortex kit you're touting.

[@IY6C]

Your loss

[@kurtgrunewald9808]

Hi, what binocular mount are you using on the tripod?

[@IY6C]

Mad by really right stuff. A pain to find in there site.. comes in poly and Machined aluminum

[@mywyo7731]

good sales add bad comparison .

[@DEZLax14]

WHy is there tape on the vortex binos?

[@IY6C]

A tough fall from a match in Wyoming

[@DEZLax14]

@@IY6C would you say that it felt like the sigs have better durability?

[@IY6C]

No it was just an eye cup

[@andydjelliott]

What tripod head is that

[@IY6C]

Anvil 30 ball head love it

[@TheShaggyRifleman]

first!

[@Jerry-Parker]

🏆🏁🥇👑🍪👍

[@IY6C]

Very nice