Deleted Engineer Dialogue FULLY TRANSLATED from the Script of Prometheus

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3 жыл бұрын

In todays video I’ll be covering the full translation of the engineer dialogue scene that was cut from Prometheus in the editing process.
In the theatrical version the Engineer doesn’t say a word after awakening, however the blu ray edition contains an entire 2 minute conversation between the Engineer, David and Weyland.
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Draft Script LINK: docplayer.net/54299743-Prometh...
On top of that, one of the early scripts has a 5 page dialogue with the awakened Engineer which is fully translated in English and reveals many plot points that explain some of the mysteries of the movie.
So first, I’m gonna go through the blu ray deleted scene, providing a translation of what the Engineer and David said to each other. The linguist that was responsible for the Engineer language actually gave an interview explaining what different lines meant.
Then I’ll cover the the extended dialogue from the early draft script, which was eventually rewritten and the conversation with the Engineer was extensively reduced.
Then David adresses the engineer in the Proto-Indo-European language that he learned on his way to to lv 226.
There’s actually a short scene in the beginning of the movie of him practicing this language while eating and the guy on the screen is the real life linguist Dr. Anil Bilto who developed the engineer language for the movie.
In the deleted scene when the engineer speaks, David translates it to Weyland saying
“he asks you why you’re here” Then Weyland tells David to tell the Engineer the reason Weyland wanted to meet him
According to the linguist what David said can be directly translated as
‘This man is here because he does not want to die. He believes you can give him more life’.
The Engineer responds and David translates is back to Weyland “I told him you wanted to life forever, he asks why “. Then we can see the excitement in Weyland’s eyes as he explains why he deserves to live forever :
“You see this man pointing to David my company build him from nothing. I made him and made him in my own image so he would be perfect so he would never fail. I deserve this because you and I we are superiors we are creators we are gods and gods never die.”
This draft script has a nearly 5 page conversation with the Engineer, which was eventually reduced to a just few lines.
WEYLAND
What did he say, David?
DAVID
He asked to know why you're here
WEYLAND
Tell him, I came for answers. Ask him, why they
created us, what is our purpose and where did
we come from. Ask him, David, Ask him!
DAVID
We want to know why you created life on our
planet. Why did you create us and what was
our purpose?
LAST ENGINEER explains why they created life on Earth
Many worlds have been crafted by the hand of our fathers
through the blood of our lord. Yours was the only one
that was successful. The Star child of the universe.
Yours id the only star child that is like our home world.
WEYLAND
What is he, saying?
DAVID
They made our planet perfect like theirs
Then just like in the movie, the script describes a really important scene involving Shaw which reveals Weyland’s true nature.
Weyland approaches the engineer and gives the exact same speech we hear in the deleted scene, basically saying that he created David, which makes him superior and equal to Engineers, therefore equal to Gods who should live forever.
Then the events unfold in the same way as in the movie, the Engineer looks at David, examines him with curiosity and admiration but then he rips off his head and proceeds to kill the screw.
As the engineer explicitly said in the script he refused giving Weyland eternal life because according to him humanity was unworthy of that. In addition, engineers decided to send the deadly virus 2 thousand years ago because they deemed humanity a violent species which was illustrated in front of engineer’s eyes when Weyland ordered to hit Elizabeth.
Lastly let’s look at another early script in which the scene of the engineer awakening is totally different and I’ll probably make a separate video about that script since it has many elements totally different from the movie.
Later in this script, the Engineer launches the juggernaut to earth however, as he’s taking off, an alien erupts from his chest and though the pilot chair suit, which ultimately kills him.
This alien is called Ultramorph in the script and there exist designs and concept art with this creature which is described as a jockey Xenomorph spawned from an Engineer host
This sequence of events in which an alien erupts from the pilot leading to the ship crash perfectly connects to the original alien of 1979 where the crew finds a fossilized space jockey with a hole in his chest inside of a crashed juggernaut.

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@johnran6015
@johnran6015 3 жыл бұрын
So they replaced a scene that would have been the philosophical core of the movie with "scary monster wakes up and attacks spacemen".
@ray9081
@ray9081 3 жыл бұрын
@@leviclark3822 Who finds this shit scary anymore ?
@leviclark3822
@leviclark3822 3 жыл бұрын
@@ray9081 I find it entertainment...the dialogue which was cut would be best served in the novel, but for me having that much dialogue with the same end result just slows the film down man...it's not about just being scary it's about keeping the pace...and all this dialogue towards the end or at the pique of the film really fucks up the rhythm
@leviclark3822
@leviclark3822 3 жыл бұрын
@@ray9081 I'm sorry, but I watch films for entertainment...not searching for the hidden meanings of life inside of them...I read the story of PROMETHEUS once in high school and when I am on the road...so when the film came out I basically knew what the undertones were going to be...so I just abandoned all logic at that point and took in a damn good movie
@jimbob4484
@jimbob4484 3 жыл бұрын
@@leviclark3822 actually in fairness, the whole point of Prometheus was to explore a grand mythology surrounding the Alien movies (I'm paraphrasing Ridley Scott). I enjoyed Prometheus and still do, but it's core story line was a bit of a confused mess.
@MakarovDreyar
@MakarovDreyar 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbob4484 absolutely, this wasn't supposed to be a scare fest, it's practically a philosophical origins story of both human life and the xenomorphs. I could have watched a 30/40 minute conversation between david and the engineer quite happily. These deleted scenes really open the film up. I wish we were still getting Alien awakening, but Disney have derailed that for their own standalone film and eurgh the premise is ridiculous.
@m.mestre9214
@m.mestre9214 2 жыл бұрын
“Let’s make a prequel that explores the origins of the Aliens story.” “Yeah, awesome!” *cuts the scene from the movie that’s basically the reason for the movie existing*
@jimbowlan5804
@jimbowlan5804 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the studios fault they cut the movie the way it is also the writers is terrible lindeoff is a crappy story teller and bad at dialogue
@HISTORYSQUARE
@HISTORYSQUARE 2 жыл бұрын
They should make a movie on some engineers coming to the planet and finding out about humans have been here. And they decide to communicate to us to be able to build back a liveable planet where the alien is now.
@lincolnsghost7328
@lincolnsghost7328 2 жыл бұрын
So the movie ‘The Passion of the Christ’ can be reinterpreted as part of the Alien storyline cannon?
@lincolnsghost7328
@lincolnsghost7328 2 жыл бұрын
It’s possible the Engineer’s had their own creation myth and the prehistoric events shown in the movie was an “unreliable narration” told from their perspective.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 2 жыл бұрын
@@HISTORYSQUARE: Those Engineers will realize that the humans had thwarted the mission to destroy Earth, and will decide to finish the job themselves. They'll have to deal with all the different face huggers themselves.
@jackjohnson4216
@jackjohnson4216 4 ай бұрын
I swear it’s a conspiracy they didn’t include this part of the script. This IS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE STORY. They literally removed the answers to the whole story.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think the reception to the movie would have bee far better as people would have been satisfied at having actual answers to the question "what's going on!?!?!!?!" Taking this out turned the movie into a nothing-burger.
@jaysunbrady
@jaysunbrady 4 ай бұрын
No, it's because Scott wanted to make Raised by Wolves which would have addressed the concept deeper. Unfortunately got cancelled after 2 season
@metaforcesaber
@metaforcesaber 4 ай бұрын
Raised by wolves was so good, I was so bummed when it was canceled.
@HeathBlythe
@HeathBlythe 3 ай бұрын
Milking it, as long as the cow has milk.
@blindbrad4719
@blindbrad4719 3 ай бұрын
The extra stuff just paints them as complete idiots! hey check out all this cool crap we've got but we don't think you're ever going to want it for yourselves and you're just going to be content to scrabble around in the mud struggling 🙄
@bjarczyk
@bjarczyk 8 ай бұрын
Some writer or director needs to do this story justice at some point. I don’t care if it’s 20 years from now. We were robbed of an incredible story.
@matthewgriffin827
@matthewgriffin827 4 ай бұрын
Denis Villeneuve
@Christiangrey999
@Christiangrey999 3 ай бұрын
I’ll be 40 😭
@somedudeok1451
@somedudeok1451 Ай бұрын
No, this backstory sucks. It's a silly idea that aliens, who know everything about the evolution and behaviour of life, would get offended when we act in exactly the way that every animal acts. Life inherently wants to keep living and wants to defend and assert itself. To be mad at that would be to be mad at rain for being wet. Also, if they wanted to teach us to follow their stupid death cult religion, then they are lousy teachers - beneath everything even modern humans know about sociology and psychology. This movie's premise is ridiculous when you think about it.
@AironNoriaLong
@AironNoriaLong 13 күн бұрын
Its happening isnt it. the trailer just dropped
@e.l.norton
@e.l.norton 3 жыл бұрын
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY was this edited out?! WHY?! It's the ENTIRE point of the fucking story! It's the pay off of the entire movie! It's the core, the meaning that was totally absent from the final cut. My God! Insane!
@waxpants
@waxpants 3 жыл бұрын
the powers that be in hollywood forced him to cut it out because its too close to the real history of humanity
@KrGsMrNKusinagi0
@KrGsMrNKusinagi0 3 жыл бұрын
because of religious references im guessing.. they feared a backlash from basically either side of the aisle so they went with something less
@victorhayes5471
@victorhayes5471 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrGsMrNKusinagi0 100% this, and in the process of cutting it out, destroyed the meaning of the movie. We need a Snyder Cut!
@alantonix213
@alantonix213 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorhayes5471 Grab your 'Snyder cut: Alien/Prometheus' protest boards! We storm the Snyder's lawn at dawn!
@barrymanning4861
@barrymanning4861 3 жыл бұрын
@@alantonix213 LAWN AT DAWN! LAWN AT DAWN! LAWN AT DAWN!
@Helliconia54
@Helliconia54 3 жыл бұрын
The director destroyed his own movie by cutting out everything that was needed to make it work. Insane!
@americangangsterlock1550
@americangangsterlock1550 3 жыл бұрын
This is what makes Indie genre and B-rated movies satisfying at times. I'm not a fan of these types of movies or series really and even I got hyped to finally get to watch it. It was incredibly bad + slow moving. When things picked up, the randomness started to project every other scene.
@brianmccann666
@brianmccann666 3 жыл бұрын
Studios recut the Film. Studio had final cut.
@WLTR-
@WLTR- 3 жыл бұрын
Why Just why?
@youtubeisevil7487
@youtubeisevil7487 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly you've never seen a Lindleof work. Dude's trash.
@WLTR-
@WLTR- 3 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeisevil7487 ooh i see
@arkenoidable
@arkenoidable 2 ай бұрын
weyland: what is love? engineer: baby dont hurt me
@kernel-pult
@kernel-pult 2 ай бұрын
heehee
@shanegreen9511
@shanegreen9511 Ай бұрын
WHOAWOAOAOAAAAA OAAAAOAAAAAOOOO OOOOOOOAHHHHHHAHHHH
@SauciEwok
@SauciEwok Ай бұрын
You made mh day lmao
@baronvg
@baronvg 24 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@ibnyahud
@ibnyahud 23 күн бұрын
No more
@rohittkrr
@rohittkrr 4 ай бұрын
engineers: we don't like violent creatures also engineer: creates xenomorphs and predators
@AverageJoe483
@AverageJoe483 2 ай бұрын
A metaphor for how hypocritical leaders are .
@ATFstein
@ATFstein 2 ай бұрын
I don’t remember them mentioning predators
@3rdworldem
@3rdworldem 2 ай бұрын
they didn't create predators
@NickCombs
@NickCombs 2 ай бұрын
I find it highly unlikely that the Engineers were wholly aligned in their beliefs and motives.
@eggshen8953
@eggshen8953 2 ай бұрын
They didn't make Predators
@officialnicko
@officialnicko 2 жыл бұрын
Years later, I realize this movie could’ve been a masterpiece..
@analogueconsciousness8112
@analogueconsciousness8112 2 жыл бұрын
So damn true!!!!!!!
@diegoguzman8843
@diegoguzman8843 2 жыл бұрын
I realized that when I first Watch It. Felt like they missed a whole lot of opportunities when they didn't show enough of the scene between the Engineer and David conversation. Tbh it really didn't need an Alien cameo.
@seanyingling1127
@seanyingling1127 2 жыл бұрын
Slot of Ridley Scott movies could have been masterpieces but for some reason his producers always water down the plot to make it super linear. I even liked Fan edit of blade runner with deleted scenes. Hannibal would have been better with the bit where Hannibal helps inspector Pozzi first before killing him. I heard the same thing happened to Black Rain.
@grizzlygamer8891
@grizzlygamer8891 2 жыл бұрын
I've always rated this movie, though yes, there are some glaring problems with it that prevent it from ever reaching masterpiece status.
@whyalwaysme2522
@whyalwaysme2522 2 жыл бұрын
@@grizzlygamer8891 which flaws? Please be explicit. Edit: otherwise you're just full of shjit.
@James-og6cx
@James-og6cx Жыл бұрын
The Engineers deserve their own movie.
@Joefred77
@Joefred77 Жыл бұрын
That would be assume
@isascarparo5992
@isascarparo5992 Жыл бұрын
I dont think they'll do it tho.
@SlothMan2
@SlothMan2 Жыл бұрын
Meet the engineer
@broxxad
@broxxad Жыл бұрын
that might be too revealing. If we see too much of them, it might destroy the greatness and mystery of the engineers.
@etherospike3936
@etherospike3936 Жыл бұрын
@@SlothMan2 That would be the name of the reality show !
@zAvAvAz
@zAvAvAz 6 ай бұрын
The engineers are the absolute best part of the movie and the original scripts all of it together is great.
@Huhdoebruh
@Huhdoebruh 17 күн бұрын
This script is confirmed fake, by the actual writers
@alfredohernandez2986
@alfredohernandez2986 15 күн бұрын
David: We now have TikTok Engineer: Rips head off David
@abelingaw5070
@abelingaw5070 15 күн бұрын
Weyland: and Twitter as well
@marksaenz4324
@marksaenz4324 2 жыл бұрын
The Director didn’t kill the scene. The studio did.
@wraithofkah5487
@wraithofkah5487 2 жыл бұрын
Studios normally do destroy the true potential of movies!
@jari2018
@jari2018 2 жыл бұрын
@@wraithofkah5487 They did choose wrong actors/actresses in the casting and then bothed the script (kiddified) and then the cgi
@wraithofkah5487
@wraithofkah5487 2 жыл бұрын
@@jari2018 Right! They truly had the potential to reinvigorate the franchise but instead they gave us this then followed it with Alien Convenant. Such let downs. But cest la vie. Here's hoping the next Alien movie is good lol
@M4PAT
@M4PAT 2 жыл бұрын
Something tells me the studio wasn't comfortable letting the audience know too much truths. Yeah I said it
@lukefreeman828
@lukefreeman828 2 жыл бұрын
@@M4PAT well that’s Cus you’re silly. The idea is absolutely nothing new and shows like ancient aliens have talked about it and other ideas for years 😂
@MrNeodylliphan
@MrNeodylliphan Жыл бұрын
"I'm going to make a movie that explains everything, but then I'll delete the only scene where anything is actually explained. The fans will love this." - Ridley Scott, probably.
@MrNeodylliphan
@MrNeodylliphan Жыл бұрын
@Christian well yes. I always thought that the title "Alien" referred not to the creature but to the idea of something being alien. Bizzarre, beyond understanding. To make sequel after sequel to explain and uncover more facts about the creature kind of missed the point, I think. I love Aliens, I really really do, but I think the franchise should have just kept introducing new creatures separate from the xenomorphs. But I think the marketing deoartment had a graph showing increased profit if you stick a xenomorph in the movie instead.
@futavadumnezo
@futavadumnezo Жыл бұрын
@user-ic6hk5of5y But this is the whole reason of the movie, to explain the origins of the aliens.
@hainleysimpson1507
@hainleysimpson1507 Жыл бұрын
Christian, not everyone likes blue balls. What you described is religion pointless crap that is not entertaining
@visheshl
@visheshl Жыл бұрын
The studio wanted a graphic horror movie not an actual horror movie about questions of existence...im pretty sure the audience also did not want a movie about philosophy
@jacobjorgenson9285
@jacobjorgenson9285 Жыл бұрын
People will rather be confused than bored
@disgruntledmedic4253
@disgruntledmedic4253 8 ай бұрын
Really cool Anunnaki reference. Wish this would have been the main plot. But I’m not surprised that this was cut.
@silverink1824
@silverink1824 2 ай бұрын
I know, right? I really wish we would have gotten the more complete dialogue even though it would have taken a lot of life out of the engineer/ anunnaki
@marionforde-tc6vs
@marionforde-tc6vs Ай бұрын
I agree Well said
@MAquiNAroJA12
@MAquiNAroJA12 8 ай бұрын
Why the hell does Ridley Scott always cut out the MOST IMPORTANT parts of the movies? Holy hell, almost 11 years worth of questions, answered in 15 mins.
@kidgruesome407
@kidgruesome407 8 ай бұрын
This.
@smokymountainangoras
@smokymountainangoras 18 күн бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 2 күн бұрын
He didn't want to, he was forced by the studios because apparently people didn't want this philosophical story or engineers. They just wanted aliens killing people and actions apparently.
@JayOhBreezy
@JayOhBreezy Жыл бұрын
That’s the one thing the entire alien franchise is missing. The engineers backstory.
@tickledeggz
@tickledeggz 10 ай бұрын
Boba Fett used to be cool. Then they gave him backstory. And lines of dialogue, and eventully accidentally turned him face nd utterly gutted everything cool about him. The ide in your head is probably far more rewarding, and if you dont hve your own idea yet, I promise you, its gunn be so mich more fun theorising and finding minor details to form your own idea than anything that will ever be put to film.
@ThorneyedWT
@ThorneyedWT 10 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? Alien franchise is nicely wrapped trilogy.
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 10 ай бұрын
@@tickledeggz Boba Fett isn't cool bc Disney fucked him up. There could've been a shit ton of cool ideas for the show but they went the lazy route. Clone Wars and the prequels added more depth to Boba without ruining his character so it was totally possible to do. Sometimes, yes, keeping things a mystery is better but I'm not sure Boba is the best example of something that needed to remain mysterious and unexplained
@rohezalvomambo1208
@rohezalvomambo1208 10 ай бұрын
It is what humanity is basically 'missing'. Its backstory, the meaning of life. This is unanswerable - so tried the movie, to show the senselessness of the search. It failed here in a sense of entertainment, not in a philosophical way. This script is interesting, but too narrowed down on Christian mythology, so I am quite glad it did not make it into the movie. It would have ended up of being equally unsatisfying as the movie there is.
@SporadicKristal
@SporadicKristal 8 ай бұрын
they do, "Fantastic Planet" a 1973 animated movie (I'd recommend a sober watch of the movie too 😅)
@tephra_
@tephra_ 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this could've been such a masterpiece always makes me sad.
@star2be83
@star2be83 3 жыл бұрын
I know right.. crazy
@elizabethmunoz6479
@elizabethmunoz6479 3 жыл бұрын
I think it still is. I think if it wasn't limited by industry 'standards' and their limitations I would have been stronger. Sometimes it is up to the spectator to answer questions left unanswered....sometimes, they are intentionally left unanswered. Also, there was probably a producer or some non-artist dollar signs for eyes type that thought it would hurt sales to make it "preachy"
@kathrynsmith3417
@kathrynsmith3417 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me feel sad also as the deleted scenes, the deleted dialogue would have given the move more constructive content & deeper meaning. The trio who sacrificed themselves to stop the ship from leaving & destroying earth, gives their sacrifice greater meaning.
@brennendow9341
@brennendow9341 3 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethmunoz6479 yeah I liked the questions the movie made me ask after
@kevineckelkamp
@kevineckelkamp 3 жыл бұрын
And the sequel prequel covenant was piss poor compared to what i expected
@maambe_divya
@maambe_divya 7 ай бұрын
They shredded the movie's core apart by excluding this! Thank you so much!
@conradlarrson6182
@conradlarrson6182 7 ай бұрын
My gripe with the Alien franchise is that they have so many awesome ideas that just get thrown by the wayside for cheap thrills and action movies. Exploring the engineer's backstory and their philosophy is loads more interesting than any of the action sequences in the movie. Alien excels at creating eerie, distant, mysterious settings/stories. Much like this scene being cut, Alien: Covenant had so much potential to explore the engineer's world and their creation of humanity, but instead it turned into another shoot 'em up like Aliens. It's such a monumental shame.
@jonahthejedai4973
@jonahthejedai4973 4 ай бұрын
Sadly, this is the reason Alien Covenant didn’t do as well. People didn’t care about the brighter elements, they just want cheap thrills.
@MrSergiopg18
@MrSergiopg18 4 ай бұрын
Yes this why i prefer prometheus over covenant sure xemorphs are cool but we've seen those numerous times already the idea behinf the engineers and being the creators allow us to go deeper into lore which to me is way more exciting then just another rogue team stuck on a planet battling aliens AGAIN
@jochenstacker7448
@jochenstacker7448 3 жыл бұрын
I guess a studio exec said "hey, can you cut five minutes from this movie so it doesn't make any sense anymore?"
@yannickzaya3219
@yannickzaya3219 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Studio execs get payed a butt load of money but they have no idea about how to make movies. Not the first and won't be the last. They really piss me off. I want to make movies and I will be financing it myself without the meddling of these dumb studio execs who I imagine only got the job through nepotism. Always has been like this in the studios. If you don't agree with them they blacklist you. You don't need these idiots to make a movie. If you're product is good enough the people will watch. If your movie sucks, it sucks!
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 2 жыл бұрын
Not a problem, barely an inconvenience.
@wes9809
@wes9809 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the dumbest part of the movie was he woke up and supposedly an intelligent species just randomly began to nonsensically attacking them.
@seanyoung9014
@seanyoung9014 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen this movie so many times with different people and they always get to that part and say "Why tf did he do that?" Now I can say "Because studio executives are morons." 🤦🏾‍♂️
@frenchyoathbreaker4095
@frenchyoathbreaker4095 3 жыл бұрын
I understood right away though that he was disgusted by humanity.
@IchabodCraner
@IchabodCraner 3 жыл бұрын
@@frenchyoathbreaker4095 I thought the same and he was triggered that they hurted Shaw and realizing David is an engineered creation of humankind. That l
@thebiggusdonnus8453
@thebiggusdonnus8453 3 жыл бұрын
@@IchabodCraner That's a great interpretation as well.
@kathrynsmith3417
@kathrynsmith3417 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree, that scene seemed unsatisfying that he just attacks them seemingly with any sense, just for violence.
@rstarrkk
@rstarrkk 8 ай бұрын
This shit was a documentary you can't convince me otherwise.
@user-gk9dq7sg1o
@user-gk9dq7sg1o 4 ай бұрын
Engineer: humans are horrible Weyland : we are the same Engineer: 😡 👊
@jonchapa5404
@jonchapa5404 2 жыл бұрын
Deleting this part of the movie is like David ommiting parts of the Engineer's speech. It's almost malicious and down right cruel.
@BeverlyHighland
@BeverlyHighland 2 жыл бұрын
But the fact that they left it out and years later we are still talking about it and learning more, really makes it great in a different way.
@jonchapa5404
@jonchapa5404 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeverlyHighland I think it's great for those seeking more. For individuals who aren't as invested into the aliens lore it's a miss to get more fans IMO.
@neowolf09
@neowolf09 2 жыл бұрын
Almost? No, it is
@neowolf09
@neowolf09 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeverlyHighland yea no. Taking that stuff out ruined the movie. It's literally key to tying the storylines together
@BeverlyHighland
@BeverlyHighland 2 жыл бұрын
@@neowolf09 and yet here you are talking about it
@ambrosius
@ambrosius 2 жыл бұрын
This scene would’ve made so many things in Prometheus, and indeed Ridley Scott’s entire Alien universe, so much clearer. Why did they cut it? Thank you for this video! It was fascinating.
@Hal09i
@Hal09i 2 жыл бұрын
@William Bower I think that's about it. The studio wants maximum wiggle room to give themselves options for future movies with regards to scrips/plot. If they show something, confirm something, it becomes canon, and they're basically locked in to it. Better to keep it open and the audience guessing, looking for more is their view.
@lukefreeman828
@lukefreeman828 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hal09i true… but then franchises regularly undo their own canon. Just look at Star Wars or Terminator films. All over the shop.
@bubamarac1
@bubamarac1 2 жыл бұрын
It was a false Gospel. Too obvious! In this way, the seed of deception was planted, and now it is growing.
@brandonglenn9007
@brandonglenn9007 2 жыл бұрын
The only obvious reason: To keep the Aliens anthology going (aka more future movies). We got Alien: Covenent after that and Shaw traveling the universe for the answer that was given in the script but not in the movie itself.
@Harv72b
@Harv72b 2 жыл бұрын
In addition to creating more wiggle room for sequels, I have to think that the average studio exec preparing to launch a big budget blockbuster in the United States would be a wee bit hesitant to have the movie implicitly state that the Christian God was just a bunch of aliens.
@tedharrison4109
@tedharrison4109 Ай бұрын
Thank you for that explanation. It helps fill in the gaps.
@rong2912
@rong2912 Ай бұрын
Translate this - Boggid rheet hyyu pssto lirreaw
@brianherzog
@brianherzog 7 ай бұрын
Loved the video. Thank you.
@Name-se3lf
@Name-se3lf 3 жыл бұрын
They really, really, messed this movie up. All this cut stuff sounds wonderful.
@terrybatman
@terrybatman 3 жыл бұрын
Another snydercut
@jothishprabu8
@jothishprabu8 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrybatman Imagine Ridley Scott releasing a better version of his own messed up movie after so many years with reshoots. That would be funny as hell 😅
@terrybatman
@terrybatman 3 жыл бұрын
@@jothishprabu8 the problem was this movie was badly promoted. I didn't understand that this movie was in the same universe as aliens and predator till the end when the proto alien emerges from the engineer.
@randomnickify
@randomnickify 3 жыл бұрын
We created you but you turned to be evil so we decided to kill you but not by releasing simple cold virus but by most elaborate biological and evil weapon in the galaxy - What part of this utter gibberish sounds wonderful? :D
@thalolo
@thalolo 3 жыл бұрын
I think exactly the same, when I went to see Prometheus at the cinema at the time, I was expecting a story like the one mentioned in this video. A shame. Greetings from Argentina.
@plausiblequotes7643
@plausiblequotes7643 2 жыл бұрын
“Too much talking, need more action, aliens, and people not running left or right from a ship. People like that stuff!” -Some executive
@evgenigradinar2731
@evgenigradinar2731 2 жыл бұрын
It's easy to say left and right when you had a bird's eye view perspective. Just imagine being down there when everything is exploding around you.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 2 жыл бұрын
@@evgenigradinar2731: That giant spacecraft hit the ground, and started to roll. Weyland's daughter turned back to see it roll toward her, so she easily could've turned away from the path of that roll. Squished like a bug.
@Elitesolider1023
@Elitesolider1023 2 жыл бұрын
People like this do not deserve to be involved in companies like Fox who don't even care about movies with good stories at all so screw them 🤬
@LordMoebius
@LordMoebius 2 жыл бұрын
@@evgenigradinar2731 no one in that movie made intelligent decisions..and these were supposed to be scientists. Too many concessions in logic for the sake of convenience.
@StephenJohnson-jb7xe
@StephenJohnson-jb7xe 2 жыл бұрын
In movies people have been running down the road to escape a car for just about forever. Even as a child I couldn't believe such a stupid thing was in a movie.
@jamesloxterman8366
@jamesloxterman8366 5 ай бұрын
Wow.. this answered so many questions I had about this movie. Now I want to go rewatch it. Thank you for this video.
@bubudread
@bubudread 2 ай бұрын
I LOVED THIS WHOLE VIDEO. Thanks Kroft.
@dc345601
@dc345601 3 жыл бұрын
This actually makes more more frustrated that they had a much more interesting story available but they decided to scrap it for something significantly crappier.
@alyssamb7902
@alyssamb7902 3 жыл бұрын
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@fupopanda
@fupopanda 3 жыл бұрын
It's the studios executives. They actually get the final say, not the director. It's sad.
@dc345601
@dc345601 3 жыл бұрын
@@fupopanda yeah, that’s frustrating. Clearly the studios do not know their audience
@genlaz1
@genlaz1 3 жыл бұрын
@@dc345601 no. It's not about the audience. It's that this version has heavy implications regarding religion. To maximize profits they don't want to antagonize large groups of ppl, including religious groups. This version of the script implied aliens trained Jesus, not that he was the son of God. They weren't touching that.
@Chimera_166
@Chimera_166 3 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed it. Rewatched it twice
@wildmansamurai3663
@wildmansamurai3663 Жыл бұрын
Just can't believe Ridley Scott wouldn't include this in the movie. It literally explains everything.
@wildmansamurai3663
@wildmansamurai3663 Жыл бұрын
@TheMaidofMiddleEarth 100%
@joshythehand2960
@joshythehand2960 Жыл бұрын
Well.. a real reason might be islam. I'm serious. In the West we forget that Jesus is a high profit in the Quran. Just like Mohamed. They would literally take something like this as seriously as a blasphemy against Mohamed. Movies are changed a lot because of this. But I'm not kidding when o say it couldn't be shown to Muslim audiences . But it could literally call for jihad against Scott by a billion Muslims world wide. Dead serious. Movies have been changed before because of it. And that's a huge audience. Hundreds of millions of dollars lost potentially. They love Jesus with the same fanaticism that they love Mo.
@wildmansamurai3663
@wildmansamurai3663 Жыл бұрын
@@joshythehand2960 yeah all religions are nuts.
@Francescojg
@Francescojg Жыл бұрын
I agree that these answers should’ve been in the film but it’s incredibly lazy writing to have 1 scene with a character explaining every question the film asks. Good films have these answers discovered by the characters along the way. This is just poor exposition
@NormanTiner
@NormanTiner Жыл бұрын
@@Francescojg I would say that usually this is the case but in some stories there is no payoff until the end. This is how the story was structured. I think it's a shame they backed out of it
@vg8022
@vg8022 8 ай бұрын
Watched the movie few times, but only after seeing this 15 minutes video I finally get it. Thanks Kroft
@cwdgamedev822
@cwdgamedev822 8 ай бұрын
I of course want to know as much as the next person about the Engineers and their motives; but I think it was actually a pretty masterful move to leave in some mystery by leaving the conversation untranslated. Enigmatic, to be sure, but it drives us to come up with our own theories which may or may not be better than what the script might have contained.
@frankwest3058
@frankwest3058 3 жыл бұрын
The deleted dialogue is better than the whole Prometheus film.
@briankgruber
@briankgruber 3 жыл бұрын
I must agree. The movie is an amazing sci-fi thriller but the entire f---ing point of the film is to answer the questions of the meaning of life on earth WHICH ARE DELETED. Wonderful mythology and symbolism without which it's all a big client monster violently killing the crew. Edits have to be made for time and story arc in movies but this cut was criminal. The movie is unsatisfying without it. Thanks to Kroft for sharing it.
@cerberus3797
@cerberus3797 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. the whole premise at the beginning of the film is leading to the origin story. Without this scene in full the movie makes little if any sense. It’s mostly boiled down to bottom line violence and horror. I was disappointed with the film for not delivering or even maintaining the story. Cinematically it is great but without the story it’s just visual masterbation. Film should be a medium for the story. The editor did a disservice to the franchise with this decision.
@edlux2190
@edlux2190 3 жыл бұрын
Can't agree with you enough. The movie itself due to Scott believing he could tell a story just with images was beyond pointless. It made every event that happened largely a huh moment. Like it or not you CAN NOT tell a story simply with images. That's called a Rorschach test and it really comes down to what a persons imagination comes up with. Dialogue though to the current generation is pure poison is the only real way to tell complex stories. (Shy of old fashioned text) Net result what mite have been something worth adding to Scott's original works ended up just feeling like an old man trying to ride on his name. Saddest part is instead of learning his lesson, he made another one.
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 3 жыл бұрын
@@edlux2190 genndy tartakovski called, he's pointing to samurai Jack and primal. You can tell stories visually, but you have to be good at it. Also, Ridley Scott has gone where most sci-fi riders have gone before: "God is aliens, your religion is a hollow lie."
@edlux2190
@edlux2190 3 жыл бұрын
@@hariman7727 A Rorschach test may well give folks the feeling that they see something. Sadly at the end of the day it's what they see. It is not empirical data. So no you simply cannot. You can create a subjective work. But people will take away from it what they will. Which may well have nothing to do what you intended. Scott to me sadly after this feels like one of those old prize fighters that try to make a comeback. But instead just make themselves look like a bad joke. He now gets to be remember as the guy that took a dump on his own work. Lucas famously came off looking the same way after his prequel series. Let's hope this franchise doesn't have happen to it what happened to Lucas one time legacy after that.
@jeremybuban3990
@jeremybuban3990 2 жыл бұрын
FBI holding a gun to the directors head- "You're saying too much bro"
@incognito6352
@incognito6352 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Oblivisci........
@Oblivisci........ 2 жыл бұрын
It would definitely be the CIA holding the gun. Not the FBI.
@ravencassidy1979
@ravencassidy1979 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is EVERYTHING
@abhinavmenon9140
@abhinavmenon9140 2 жыл бұрын
Or MIB
@octem2251
@octem2251 2 жыл бұрын
It's unlikely, I mean, this is just an expensive movie about Ancient Aliens, and Tsoukalos has been allowed to speak "too much" for very long time
@littlebabycarrotful
@littlebabycarrotful 3 ай бұрын
No one ive ever asked ever thought this was a great movie, but it always stuck in my mind. And this video answers a lot of questions
@S8iNtSpAwN
@S8iNtSpAwN 22 күн бұрын
😅, I've never met anyone who has seen this movie. Obviously, it has a huge fan base. I have loved it since the first time I have seen it. It's good to know you guys are out there 👍
@enlightenedmiiind4790
@enlightenedmiiind4790 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your videos on these alien movies 🙏 they are so interesting and helpful to the story. I always thought it was a good movie but though it could have easily been a masterpiece especially if they would have done covenant the right way. Your videos made me appreciate the movies a bit more but also wonder why so much was taken from the story. I’m glad I stumbled on your page. Once again thank you 🙏 keep it up!
@TSINIproductions
@TSINIproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Man I enjoyed all of these missing scenes more than the movie itself.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 2 жыл бұрын
Don't dismiss the scenes with Weyland's hot daughter.
@jrod1076
@jrod1076 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@emredogan334
@emredogan334 2 жыл бұрын
Because deep inside you believe in alien gods who created us.
@rasmadrak
@rasmadrak 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that they removed all the good stuff from the theatrical cut, unfortunately....
@sboloshis1188
@sboloshis1188 2 жыл бұрын
It would have tied it together. And explain the defenses of his ship. Why are these monsters here?!
@guaguancos.montunodcubop8923
@guaguancos.montunodcubop8923 3 жыл бұрын
None of this should have been cut. The storyline of the Engineers was so damn incredible and with all the extra scripts and dialogue ..could've made it the best sci-fi film imho. Damn we need "Paradise" or a miniseries of just the Engineers story. So interesting and almost feels like it could be real. Tighten up Ridley..PLEASE! Dont let us down
@porcu12345
@porcu12345 3 жыл бұрын
They probably wanted to keep it for a reveal in the true prometheus sequel, then it went off the rails and turned into covenant
@peterjf7723
@peterjf7723 3 жыл бұрын
@Attila Csakberenyi Totally agree, it was such a dire film that I doubt anything could be done to save it. I saw it at the cinema with a couple of friends so unfortunately couldn't walk out from the boring, badly directed piece of junk.
@H0n3yMonstah
@H0n3yMonstah 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the whole Jesus trope is completely overdone, lazy and predictable. It wouldn't have made this crap movie any better.
@peterjf7723
@peterjf7723 3 жыл бұрын
@@H0n3yMonstah I found the film tiresome and unconvincing.
@trouncerrredits
@trouncerrredits 3 жыл бұрын
@Attila Csakberenyi I feel like fans of prometheus don't overlap with alien fans much. Totally different interests. I'm big into this rash of high concept sci-fi and religious fiction stuff. Westworld, and scotts raised by wolves. I actually don't care about an alien threat beyond its use by a more interesting, technologically advanced, creator deity race. That shit sounds dope. Maybe the alien queen could've been more sentient or something. But the fictional genesis type stuff just attracts a different crowd.
@depressedrabbit3381
@depressedrabbit3381 7 ай бұрын
16 min of content that would have explained the entire movie and made it incredibly awesome instead of "what the hell just happened?". Thank you for that explanation.
@prsee5969
@prsee5969 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this video. I’ve been a huge predator and alien fan since a child, I love the idea of how they connect to each other and I don’t understand the engineers enough so this was pleasant to say the least.
@themoderndaystoner7967
@themoderndaystoner7967 2 жыл бұрын
5:15 is where the translation is coherently explained without constant side tracking.
@yautjacetanu
@yautjacetanu 2 жыл бұрын
It's taking so long to get to the point!
@PioneerOPioneer
@PioneerOPioneer 2 жыл бұрын
And this guys vocal cadence is so frustrating. It just pitches and goes up so often.
@Hrema
@Hrema 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chaucer140
@chaucer140 2 жыл бұрын
@@PioneerOPioneer not a native English speaker it seems. Also, padding the video run time.
@krste3000
@krste3000 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaucer140 Very annoying.
@snaphookright4767
@snaphookright4767 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this movie and thinking “this is the part where we’ll get answers…” and all we got was big dude tears head off the robot for no reason. Thanks for this video. Not only does it makes sense, but it also gave it meaning. A detail that would have prompted discussion. What a missed opportunity.
@Kungpaoshizzi
@Kungpaoshizzi Жыл бұрын
I kinda got the gist of it in the movie, but can't believe they removed all of that on the bluray
@joliecide
@joliecide Жыл бұрын
The biggest insult was Alien Covenant which was supposed to answer Shawn's question at the end of Prometheus. It didn't.
@Menstral
@Menstral Жыл бұрын
What terrible writing. I can't believe the engineers would act like such petulant little babies.
@vincelupo8419
@vincelupo8419 11 ай бұрын
That scene. Dude. I like Prometheus but I would have loved it instead.
@maclivingston9268
@maclivingston9268 10 ай бұрын
The engineer explained himself by ripping the head off the AI robot which deceived the crew and was obviously an enemy to mankind... It was sign language. A sign.🤔
@sethstewart9704
@sethstewart9704 5 ай бұрын
It always deeply saddens me how good this movie could have been. This is one of the few movies where I'd want to see a do-over.
@williamdavis3590
@williamdavis3590 4 ай бұрын
100% agree. Watching this video nearly ruined my night just due to the gravity of this missed opportunity. I just watched Prometheus last night and was disappointed all over again... then seeing this video. Ooof
@Rgreywolf
@Rgreywolf 3 жыл бұрын
They really should do a “Snyder Cut” for this movie.
@aniruddhagowda8072
@aniruddhagowda8072 3 жыл бұрын
Scott cut*
@kathoden135
@kathoden135 3 жыл бұрын
@@aniruddhagowda8072 *Scutt Cut
@Judebeauc13
@Judebeauc13 3 жыл бұрын
Dude 😂👌✌️
@crowone1293
@crowone1293 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck yea
@CLove511
@CLove511 3 жыл бұрын
Ridley Scott has had this issue before. Gladiator didn't suffer in the theater, but the theatrical cut of Kingdom of Heaven left out some crucial details.
@MichaelAarons1701
@MichaelAarons1701 3 жыл бұрын
I like to think the reason he reacted so violently is because David’s translation actually went more like this: “He wants more life, fucker.”
@carloko08
@carloko08 3 жыл бұрын
HAHHAHAHAHHAHA, hahaha yeah i agree XD XD
@viseshvivekanandan6459
@viseshvivekanandan6459 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@jasono.1629
@jasono.1629 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@lea-anne9133
@lea-anne9133 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that selfish conceited human
@user78405
@user78405 3 жыл бұрын
no..he understand better than any human...he is right..the engineer has told everything to him..humans need to be extinct by a viral spread...its their punishment for crucify their son
@leilafranco249
@leilafranco249 8 күн бұрын
This is amazing!!! Love this version of early scripts.
@thepoormanspoet3312
@thepoormanspoet3312 4 ай бұрын
Dude this is fascinating. Well done.
@untilidie
@untilidie 2 жыл бұрын
Damon Lindelof: We’re gonna say Jesus was educated by aliens. Fox: No you’re not.
@nin1ten1do
@nin1ten1do Жыл бұрын
CBC: well prehaps BBC: a BS CNN: a true strory
@05Hogsrule
@05Hogsrule Жыл бұрын
Sceen-cut, then tom cruise bursts through the atmosphere with Scientology clan. "We've got a problem."
@lofwyr5063
@lofwyr5063 Жыл бұрын
Good. Jews need to learn that they are not connected to any creation folklore other than their own.
@AR15andGOD
@AR15andGOD Жыл бұрын
If you think Jesus had anything to do with alien knowledge you need help. Jesus literally claimed to be God, the creator of all. And He is.
@tonpalacios2964
@tonpalacios2964 Жыл бұрын
@@AR15andGOD Jesus never claimed to be god, but the son of God.
@Kallesanus
@Kallesanus 3 жыл бұрын
Why did they cut this stuff out? I mean if they only explained all of this it would be a better movie? That jesus part was so excellent and genius!
@DensilGrant
@DensilGrant 3 жыл бұрын
That made no sense honestly. So think it was best cutting it.If you follow that plot line the points of that religion would be more convoluted.
@afngary
@afngary 3 жыл бұрын
The lack of explanation at this part of the movie was pathetic. Any additional dialog would have improved this movie greatly. The idea of speaking taking so much of his life force sounds far fetched without some reason why.
@HaohmaruHL
@HaohmaruHL 3 жыл бұрын
The Jesus part makes no sense if you're not a white westerner. To the rest of the world this would look at least bizarre
@neondemon5137
@neondemon5137 3 жыл бұрын
@@HaohmaruHL Cringe. White westerners aren't the only Christians, dummy.
@FabianEllis
@FabianEllis 3 жыл бұрын
The studio wanted to make more films and didn’t want it to be that simple, probably. That’s why it’s so complicated to leave space for sequels.
@alan.crispo
@alan.crispo 7 ай бұрын
That's what I needed to connect the dots. I remember the first time I watched it I thought "Why on earth would he beat everybody to a pulp without uttering a word?" 😂
@SwimSherpa
@SwimSherpa 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for these insights...makes you understand the struggle filmmakers wrestle with in what to keep and discard script wise. The look of the film is amazing and now knowing a little bit more of the intended interaction and deception by David makes more sense when watching Covenant and what happened there.
@747driver3
@747driver3 Жыл бұрын
In that scene, the humans actually convinced the Engineer, if he wasn’t already convinced, to continue on to earth and wipe it clean. He meets humans after 2000 years of sleep and at least listens to what they have go to say. They talk about wanting more life even though they have wasted what they were given. They talk about being equal to the engineers and arrogantly show off David, a robot with no soul, as proof of our new equality……that we are creators too! Then they squabble among each other and batter Shaw in front of him. In disgust, the Engineer rips the head off our hollow, soulless “creation” and kills the arrogant Weyland with it. Quite a comment on what he thinks about us and our creations. The Engineer, after witnessing the human circus in front of him, can’t get his ship and deadly cargo into space fast enough. I just can’t believe this scene was a deleted……….it makes the entire movie. Without it, we just think the Engineers are mindless killing machines. Also, the earlier script makes much more sense.
@opethian2154
@opethian2154 Жыл бұрын
You summarised whole story of Aliens in this small writeup. Im just amazed how this beautiful creative work was totally destroyed by the studios n it's marketing managers. Prometheus is perhaps one of the most epic stories ever told on big screen, it has the potential to fully explain reality of human nature n yet it all was destroyed by creative interference of studios. It needs a director's cut n it's own sequel n prequel to fully appreciate it.
@arthurneddysmith
@arthurneddysmith Жыл бұрын
9:11 It's just a story that hints at the basis for Christianity (and the other Abrahamic religions). That's why they left it out: it was both lazy and obvious.
@TheSCPStudio
@TheSCPStudio Жыл бұрын
No, WE don’t think anything. Sorry you’re incapable of extrapolating from context.
@747driver3
@747driver3 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSCPStudio huh?
@anujmchitale
@anujmchitale Жыл бұрын
This scene reinforces the idea that the Engineers are indeed mindless killing machines. Making up his mind based off "one human's thoughts and behaviour" would be absolute mindlessness. :D And then his own speech about humans being violent meant nothing if we just killed the humans in front of him, and was about to wipe out all on earth. Hence if this whole dialogue was kept, it would remove any mystery in the viewer's minds. And as someone else commented, it's just lazy writing hinting to Christianity.
@minillaman6717
@minillaman6717 3 жыл бұрын
Kroft has awoken from his cryosleep
@erenyaeger9498
@erenyaeger9498 3 жыл бұрын
Gud one
@guaguancos.montunodcubop8923
@guaguancos.montunodcubop8923 3 жыл бұрын
👌👌👌
@generalnawaki
@generalnawaki 3 жыл бұрын
today we shall learn of things no human was meant to know.
@erenyaeger9498
@erenyaeger9498 3 жыл бұрын
@@generalnawaki 😂
@quelich
@quelich 3 жыл бұрын
+1
@casechow
@casechow Ай бұрын
This is the deepest deep cut from Alien that I have ever seen!! My jaw was on the floor the whole time. ❤
@user-yq5bk4to7h
@user-yq5bk4to7h 8 ай бұрын
와우...이렇게도 해석이 되네요
@jeffgrey3335
@jeffgrey3335 3 жыл бұрын
I am astounded that they threw all of that away and just made it to where the engineer pulls David’s head of on a whim. This would have made the ending much more satisfying.
@AnnettesVlogCorner
@AnnettesVlogCorner Жыл бұрын
I agree...😉👍💯
@dantastic044
@dantastic044 2 жыл бұрын
It's been said literally thousands of times at this point, but without the scene of the Engineer and David talking to each other, this movie was just another "big space" cash grab movie. I've always loved it, and I won't deny that, but with the scene between David and the Engineer, it makes so much more sense, it's such a deeper, more meaningful movie, and I'm heartbroken that the entire conversation went to the wayside for the theatrical release. Wow. This could have been great.
@RuddsReels
@RuddsReels 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid isn't it. Why do this?
@joeshumo9457
@joeshumo9457 2 жыл бұрын
What a stupid analysis. The movie has waaaay more problems that just that. Whut a stoopid moovy.
@backalleycqc4790
@backalleycqc4790 Жыл бұрын
It seems like the "powers that be" were worried about the fact that the Engineers created Jesus. I mean, the religious nuts already have a problem with science fiction, however, when you mess with the Bible's writings, most especially Jesus, you're going to get cancelled.
@RuddsReels
@RuddsReels Жыл бұрын
@@backalleycqc4790 Anyone can take the piss out of Christianity. It's the Muslim religion everyone goes nuts after!
@cardamoncommon
@cardamoncommon Жыл бұрын
Well remember, the best line from Bladerunner was an adlib “All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.” Though, sometimes the exposition dialogue feels a bit forced…I understood all of what was said without it being said. I thought the clunky part of the movie was how much better some actors/actresses were so some of the scenes felt like sketches duct taped together. Naomi Rapace should have been given the movie from the beginning…
@z1az285
@z1az285 Ай бұрын
absolutely phenomenal narrative video...many thanks 👍🙏
@nigelmorris9293
@nigelmorris9293 8 ай бұрын
Really hope Ridley Scott makes the backstory of the engineers. Or at least shows us how we got to alien1
@rukiddinbro
@rukiddinbro Жыл бұрын
Prometheus is like telling half of a joke. It can be the best joke ever concieved, it still won't make you laugh without the punch line.
@yourenviousenemy
@yourenviousenemy Жыл бұрын
The punchline being that Jesus was an alien apprentice and that a species who are morally outraged by violence will also rip heads off and engineer monsters who burst out of stomachs to murder everything that moves? I don't think this is a fair analogy, this movie IS a joke (not LIKE one). The whole movie and its sequel are a laughingstock. There's only Alien and Aliens, all this other nonsense is a cash grab.
@curvingfyre6810
@curvingfyre6810 Жыл бұрын
clearly you've never heard a half joke
@funkyfiss
@funkyfiss Жыл бұрын
As someone who saw the movie once and thought it was boring and confusing. This scene alone would have changed my entire perspective on the movie. Why?? Why would they cut it out??
@DDD893
@DDD893 Жыл бұрын
That's why they created Alien Covenant, which is like telling joke that is funny only because it's dumb.
@R.DeMora
@R.DeMora Жыл бұрын
@@funkyfiss Because it's actually silly if you break it down. What the Engineer implies with the cut dialogue is that they (the Engineers) expected humanity to be like them, but didn't actually do much to ensure that we did, and when they wanted to teach us how to be like them they decide to tell only ONE guy (Jesus reference), and actually expected for the whole of humanity to just believe this one guy? lol, perhaps David should've asked if the Engineers where all stupid, or at the very least shortsighted and delusional. It's like expecting a child to teach itself to speak, and when it fails you decide to "terminate" it. Uhhh didn't you knuckleheads create us in YOUR image?
@MrJibbajabbawocky
@MrJibbajabbawocky 10 ай бұрын
"So, what was up with Dinosaurs? Why does everything evolve into crabs? Were crabs supposed to find you?"
@NickCombs
@NickCombs 2 ай бұрын
David: He says dinos got unlucky and crabs are like swiss army knives.
@leeinwis
@leeinwis 2 ай бұрын
HL2
@alexandrub8786
@alexandrub8786 2 ай бұрын
1. Not everything evolves in crabs. 2. Crabs also evolve in something else so it is not like "crab is the final forme of evolution" it just a thing that appears often.
@user-ji1yv3om3v
@user-ji1yv3om3v 2 ай бұрын
Very cool love the translations the should off made an extended version with all the translations or maybe subtitles but then that would draw you away from the stunning visuals in this movie . Love the way you translated everything liked and Subscribed👍
@noegarc1a
@noegarc1a 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. absolutely necessary to explain 👍🏻
@mekhane.broken9678
@mekhane.broken9678 3 жыл бұрын
"Why is your presence disturbing my atmosphere?! "- engineer
@user-ue6yc9kr8i
@user-ue6yc9kr8i 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously he wants to know who farted
@mekhane.broken9678
@mekhane.broken9678 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ue6yc9kr8i my God.....
@kurdtassange7020
@kurdtassange7020 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I’m using that one. Soon. 😺🙏🏼
@MrTim223
@MrTim223 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe they shouldn't have removed their helmets? When the guy narrating this video says the engineers can live long but speaking drains them, I think it's actually human respiration that is affecting the atmosphere in that chamber which is why the engineer isn't recovering from his hypersleep quickly.
@alphaturtle3806
@alphaturtle3806 2 жыл бұрын
Old man-“What did he say?” David-“Would you fancy a spot of tea over by my all organic eggs”
@uppermost865
@uppermost865 2 жыл бұрын
The Engineers, their society and all the mystery surrounding them is what made me fall in love with the franchise. It is sad that they wasted alot of potential with them
@esecallum
@esecallum Жыл бұрын
They looked like peasants with their crude yarn clothes
@PinballMosher
@PinballMosher Жыл бұрын
There should be a movie just for them.
@ArnikoGiri
@ArnikoGiri Жыл бұрын
Franchise?
@billywashere6965
@billywashere6965 Жыл бұрын
@@PinballMosher Sure, but keep Ridley FAR away from it.
@-BuddyGuy
@-BuddyGuy Жыл бұрын
"Franchise". Like McDonalds or Burger King. That's exactly what it is.
@lauren8135
@lauren8135 2 ай бұрын
Honestly this is so interesting and it gives the answers we all wanted… that Shaw asked really great stuff such a bummer it got cut.
@TheChutesMinistries
@TheChutesMinistries 8 ай бұрын
It's funny, i actually have always loved this movie specifically for the subtext (I've never even made it through the surface film in one sitting lol) and yet i didn't even know about the majority of this deleted footage! The editing works, however i totally agree with everyone saying we could've used more engineer plot points (for those of us who didn't already know what we were watching)
@bishop51807
@bishop51807 8 ай бұрын
Okay that last little bracket sounded a little pretentious. Me personally, I kind of hate the way they handle mystery and didn't like they had how they handled any of it. To each their own.
@MrShears100
@MrShears100 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how good Lindelof's draft script is. Makes me sad for what we got instead in the final cut.
@TalynStormcrow
@TalynStormcrow 2 жыл бұрын
The idea that such a powerful being as the engineer gets exhausted just speaking is dumb. It ain't that deep.
@duggins101
@duggins101 2 жыл бұрын
@@TalynStormcrow you are dumb. It's fiction. It's not that deep.
@juankovacs6033
@juankovacs6033 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it went: - so, we have to cut something or it gonna be too long - hey, what about the scene where they fight for like 10 mins with the alien on the wing of the spaceship? - nah, just cut the dialogue, nobody will get it anyways
@shockwave.9749
@shockwave.9749 2 жыл бұрын
@@duggins101 you're dumb. It being fiction does not mean it has to be shallow and mediocre. And yes, them losing lifespan from talking is absolutely dumb
@obito_0525
@obito_0525 2 жыл бұрын
@@shockwave.9749 for real, at least give a compelling reason for why they can’t speak much. A poorly thought out idea doesn’t make the aliens seem “mysterious” or “otherworldly”, it’s just a poorly thought out idea lmao.
@highspeedfistfight
@highspeedfistfight 3 жыл бұрын
If they'd let this treasure be in the movie, it would have gone from being a mockery to an incredible movie.
@Lucky_Chase
@Lucky_Chase 3 жыл бұрын
Truth
@Shoegazebasedgenre0.
@Shoegazebasedgenre0. 3 жыл бұрын
prometheus's snyder cut
@sultankuto8724
@sultankuto8724 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@brandonutterback2068
@brandonutterback2068 3 жыл бұрын
It is an incredible movie. I like that I am still discovering new things about it years later.
@lea-anne9133
@lea-anne9133 3 жыл бұрын
Even without those scenes I still think it is a brilliant film👍🏻
@user-xv7ho3qc1m
@user-xv7ho3qc1m 6 ай бұрын
Yes I love this post..also loved the film which I've seen a few times but needed this explained
@themonsterbaby
@themonsterbaby 7 ай бұрын
This isn't the only thing they cut. It's like they cut out all the scenes that were the glue holding the plot together.
@18661873
@18661873 3 жыл бұрын
The whole movie was leading up to this scene and they just made the movie confusing with the edits.
@dezznutz3743
@dezznutz3743 3 жыл бұрын
The movie literally falls off the rails at this point in the movie. Its almost a comical scene, when it should be serious.
@wa67jr
@wa67jr 3 жыл бұрын
@@dezznutz3743 you're literally just left going "huh?" Engineer just starts attacking them and no explanation is given
@EdgeOfLight
@EdgeOfLight 3 жыл бұрын
yeah i didn't get the first engineer scene.
@marcus6873
@marcus6873 3 жыл бұрын
I actually thought it was perfect, why would he give time to explain to us humans who are nothing but a failed experiment. We are supposed to be extinct. Also they can't resolve all mistery in the first movie
@alphaturtle3806
@alphaturtle3806 2 жыл бұрын
They should have just tossed in a laugh track and it would have been the biggest movie that year
@MachineMan-on4ul
@MachineMan-on4ul 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought its because the engineer took David's creation as an insult or even a challenge.
@kathrynsmith3417
@kathrynsmith3417 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting also, your interpretation, the engineer was insulted by David's creation, an imitation of real life being.
@bagortenay1822
@bagortenay1822 3 жыл бұрын
Me to
@johnbaca80
@johnbaca80 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought. Because he thinks in creating David, he is a God, but ignores the gift engineers gave us of procreation. Saying he made David in his own image makes him a God while ignoring his daughter who was literally made in his image. The ability to make life, the one thing that makes us "God-like". And that's why the movie always shows Weyland basically being a dick, and ignoring his own daughter for David.
@vadamsable
@vadamsable 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that too.
@massmedia5462
@massmedia5462 2 жыл бұрын
I saw it similarly, Engineer sees David as a mockery of true organic life, a fraud... and the guy who made the fraud thinks he is a God = angerX2
@patrickcreighton5109
@patrickcreighton5109 8 ай бұрын
Thank you sir.
@MrMackingit
@MrMackingit 4 ай бұрын
Thank s for clearing this up
@Nonni655321
@Nonni655321 2 жыл бұрын
As an interpreter I have a hard time believing that David’s mistranslation is just a mistake. David is perfect in everything that he does (in a scary way, might I add). After years of him speaking many languages it is not likely that David ignores the basic rules of interpretation protocol, starting with: do not omit or add anything to the original message, just pass it on as accurately as you’re able to. I believe that David actually has a malicious intent behind these deliberate omissions.
@rainwave5
@rainwave5 2 жыл бұрын
I agree especially after watching alien covenant. Although I wouldn't say malicious because it assumes he knows the difference between good and evil 🤔... Maybe malicious from our perspective lol
@Oscar44443
@Oscar44443 2 жыл бұрын
@@rainwave5 lol David is definitely evil bro
@rainwave5
@rainwave5 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oscar44443 lol I don't blame you for thinking that. But how can a robot be evil? For example when a lion kills a gazelle in Africa does it become evil?
@odst2247
@odst2247 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oscar44443 evil doesn’t exist and can’t be found
@matthewsheeran
@matthewsheeran 2 жыл бұрын
@@rainwave5 if he is a conscious robot a sentient being then he can certainly be evil.
@aledirksen01
@aledirksen01 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I was looking forward for this part in the movie. I literally expected something of this level in the movie, and when it ended, it didn't make any sense. I knew something was up. I can usually decipher the story through how the writer thinks and how he wrote the script which revealed to me that something of this magnitude was coming but it never did. I 100% think that leaving this piece is the movie would have made the movie perfect and probably one of the best movies of all time. Now, its simply a movie people forgot about. I almost didn't even wanted to watch this video and would have never known the real masterpiece that it should have been. Glad I clicked play.
@electrictouch1188
@electrictouch1188 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody is a director on KZbin
@minimushrom
@minimushrom 2 жыл бұрын
@@electrictouch1188 You could've given a useful insight into his statement, instead you chose to be a toxic fuck. Why?
@thebaziks323
@thebaziks323 2 жыл бұрын
@@minimushrom because thats his opinion. Its the internet bro. Why is his response any less valid? Why should people only respond positively? Why are you intolerant of pessimistic people? Let him answer his and you answer yours. Could of answered with something more philosophical but instead you chose to be a pretentious internet sjw but ended up looking like a clown instead.
@RipVanWinkle_Nature_Discovery
@RipVanWinkle_Nature_Discovery 2 жыл бұрын
You took the words out of my mouth. Right on.
@minimushrom
@minimushrom 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebaziks323 It's called common decency and not being a degenerate.
@cardinalnight3883
@cardinalnight3883 2 ай бұрын
Really good, cleared a lot up for me.
@lifeisajourneynotadestinat8018
@lifeisajourneynotadestinat8018 4 ай бұрын
I love the in depth explanation.
@davidoconnor3201
@davidoconnor3201 11 ай бұрын
The engineers are absolutely fascinating. It's a great shame that nobody has made more movies about them.
@gonzotolkien
@gonzotolkien 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, I went into Prometheus and Covenant believing we'd get the explanation of the xenomorph through the Engineers story. Instead I still don't understand how they traveled the universe and created life, when they lived in huts.
@desaad1725
@desaad1725 7 ай бұрын
it's because of Disney
@Driblus
@Driblus 7 ай бұрын
They wanted to but people didnt like the movies so as of now, its in limbo.
@Driblus
@Driblus 7 ай бұрын
@@gonzotolkien they didnt just live in huts though. Who built the structure they're spending time in, in Covenant for example? Oh, and they also had space ships and the ability of interstellar travel obviously. Now, I'm not saying the engineer story we get in the movies are great, but I dont think you have a point either.
@gonzotolkien
@gonzotolkien 7 ай бұрын
@@Driblus Both of those structures you just named are abandoned and old places, not the tech the Engineers were currently using. They appeared to have declined as a civilization and no longer going around in spaceships. Otherwise, they wouldn't have just stood there yelling and been killed off if spaceships were still their norm. And there would've been more than one city. You bomb a human city, other humans would show up.
@sepo3451
@sepo3451 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever decided to cut this scene and remove this dialogue sequence must have been an idiot of extraordinary proportions. Why? Because he took away the answer that all the fans of Alien were desperately hoping and waiting for.
@brazenbull636
@brazenbull636 2 жыл бұрын
You speak for yourself. This is not an Alien movie..
@zackhiggins5135
@zackhiggins5135 2 жыл бұрын
The religious aspect would have pushed away people from the movie. So they cut it for profits
@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203
@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 2 жыл бұрын
This scene would offend christians and jews. Prometheus was heavily linked to Jesus and removing all references to stay politically correct killed the movie.
@davidhawley1132
@davidhawley1132 2 жыл бұрын
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 I'm one of those, and it doesn't offend me. If someone wants to be offended, what they left in is more offensive than what they left out. And we like talking about this stuff.
@brazenbull636
@brazenbull636 2 жыл бұрын
@José David Cortes Garay no, it's not. It's fine you you wanna go along with that tho..
@barb235
@barb235 Ай бұрын
I love this movie…I never understood most of it …now because of your video I seem to GET IT..I don’t know why it was deleted from the movie as I feel it explains it all….thank you
@johnalexander7291
@johnalexander7291 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this. I can't for the life of me figure out why they would have left this out when without this tidbit of info it makes no sense.
@gordondavis6168
@gordondavis6168 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine a cow woke you up and said that she was your equal and she was going to build an addition to your house and rent it out to strangers.
@toro5280
@toro5280 3 жыл бұрын
I think showing a talking cow would be a much more profitable enterprise.
@jimmycraig221
@jimmycraig221 3 жыл бұрын
@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe4 actually more like if your phone did that. remember the engineers created humans. humans neither created cows nor apes
@dagann1
@dagann1 3 жыл бұрын
Wow...now that I think about it, I had a few cows that did the same! Weird...man! Hey, roll another blunt, please. This is getting freaky!
@evm6177
@evm6177 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's cute, wonder how you came up with that theory? 🍷😆
@kolakoala6702
@kolakoala6702 3 жыл бұрын
That's the most inappropriate way I can imagine to discribe the situation that also happens to be 100 % on point.
@rexdinarocky
@rexdinarocky 2 жыл бұрын
David:”This man is here because he wants to live forever” Engineer: “Brah…for what? To eat apple sauce and play Bingo?! “ Engineer gets triggered by stupidity and tears Davids head off and slams Mr. Burns with it and proceeds to destroying earth with a clear motive now.
@TattedLilZaddy
@TattedLilZaddy 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@duanecarr6712
@duanecarr6712 2 жыл бұрын
We all probably deserve to perish for what we have done to this planet and to each other.
@dejancavic6618
@dejancavic6618 2 жыл бұрын
@@duanecarr6712 no we don't.
@lgbrandon9150
@lgbrandon9150 2 жыл бұрын
@@duanecarr6712 so why dont you do your part instead of being in a world you hate and do us all a favour, stop trying to sound deep and philosophical you numpty
@dylanvandyke5896
@dylanvandyke5896 Жыл бұрын
Theres a saying about something about the sins of the father.
@harrisda1
@harrisda1 11 күн бұрын
Thank you, Kroft. Thank you very much. Now the film actually makes sense to me~
@kevinsawyer2854
@kevinsawyer2854 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for that
@matthewmccarty6508
@matthewmccarty6508 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez, Prometheus was just a few lines of dialogue and a few “character decisions” away from being something truly special...
@tr1pl333
@tr1pl333 2 жыл бұрын
The original script and conversation between the engineer and David made this a coherent movie. It’s a shame that it was cut. Probably too Jesus for Hollywood.
@NathanRW
@NathanRW 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s the opposote, a lot of movies love to take stories of Jesus and other religious figures and make it a part of their story. Maybe not as blatant as this thoigh. I thibk some of this would be interesting, but the Jesus angle doesn’t make sense. Why would they even expect anyone to listen to him, especially since they picked a group of people who didn’t have a lot of influence in the world
@Lord_of_Dread
@Lord_of_Dread 2 жыл бұрын
If by 'too jesus' you mean it might have offended jesus-freaks, then yeah that's probably it. They were probably worried some of the american "christian" fanatics would have a cry/mass shooting, and that might hurt sales/reputation. A shame really as this seemed like it was pretty integral to the movie and its themes.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lord_of_Dread Have you seen Midnight Mass on Netflix? It kind of parodies the catholic faith. You should watch it I don’t want to spoil it.
@dylanclarke1498
@dylanclarke1498 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus really? Why did they have to link this to the Christian faith. Honestly I prefer it left unknown. Just mixing religion and science doesn’t make sense.
@Lord_of_Dread
@Lord_of_Dread 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelgjr1999 I haven't but I'll look into it. Thanks for the recommendation!
@SSingh-nr8qz
@SSingh-nr8qz 8 ай бұрын
This makes SO MUCH SENSE! In order to understand this movie, you need to understand the Engineers belief system. It makes a lot of sense of why the Engineer went on a killing spree when you look at it from the viewpoint of seeing anything trying to be immortal as a sin against their God. Weyland basically screwed humanity without even knowing it and made Humanity look like a species that is hellbent on the greatest sin and needs to be destroyed.
@DesertBro
@DesertBro 6 ай бұрын
Weyland didn't cause that. The Engineers had already decided to kill all humanity with demon blackberry jello, but the Thermos didn't seal and they died from their own hateful plan to kill humanity in the most INHUMANE way possible. It's funny that ship lost power & did a full tumble, but the android's body and head were still in the same place in the control room.
@seandunaghey594
@seandunaghey594 8 ай бұрын
A movie about the engineers would be awesome 😮
@thewhitestag33
@thewhitestag33 2 жыл бұрын
It’s profound to try and imagine what the engineer is thinking in this moment. He wakes up and doesn’t expect this and he has to interpret our entire existence based on this one exchange.
@nationalsocialist5526
@nationalsocialist5526 2 жыл бұрын
Not easy by any means
@olympia5758
@olympia5758 2 жыл бұрын
Most people who would wake up to something like this would lose their shit.
@somefuckstolemynick
@somefuckstolemynick 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a normal morning being woken by your kids.
@olympia5758
@olympia5758 2 жыл бұрын
@@somefuckstolemynick lol
@grandtrey6919
@grandtrey6919 2 жыл бұрын
This is another great observation like so many under this comment section I definitely agree
@peacetreaty86
@peacetreaty86 5 ай бұрын
Kroft, thank you for this research. As funny as it might sound. I found this very profound and I come back to this video and listen because it’s so beautifully inspiring and interesting
@burntt999
@burntt999 3 жыл бұрын
“ ..prepare for rapture” gave me chills
@jf752
@jf752 2 жыл бұрын
knowing everything on the script. i can understand why he would feel that way. he makes a good point of justifying himself in the script
@bobsmoot8454
@bobsmoot8454 7 ай бұрын
More great background on this awesome franchise
@user-yd3eh1io4g
@user-yd3eh1io4g 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Thank you
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