It barely runs...2001 Saturn Coupe

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Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

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@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, that sure was fun. We go from head scratching 4 channel scope case studies to smacking stuff with a hammer on this channel. That's why we love it! Nice work Ivan and thanks!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
haha I like the "quick and dirty" ones to mix it up a bit :)
@faustogonzalez8397
@faustogonzalez8397 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job Ivan ,really enjoyed your video. Thanks for the explanation on how to interrupt the MAP DATA PID, makes sense now, at initial ignition on the CPU reads the MAP sensor prior to start and reads ~ 28 IN HG, and then after engine starts reads the MAP DATA PID and and subtracts it from the 28 IN HG to get the overall engine vacuum of 28 - 8 = ~ 20 IN HG , normal vacuum reading for an engine at idle. Real Cool !!
@chrisfreemesser
@chrisfreemesser 7 жыл бұрын
Had two Saturns (both 5-speeds), loved them both. Easy to work on and were reliable but basic transportation. If my current ride suddenly had to be replaced, I'd totally buy one of these if I could find a low mileage 5-speed in good condition. All of the S-series engines burn oil as they age...GM didn't put oil drainback holes in the pistons, so I guess that causes problems with the piston rings over time.
@pcar5
@pcar5 4 жыл бұрын
Owned two Saturns with 5 speeds. Each went 250,000 miles and burned no oil. In fact no problems with either. Original clutch on both.
@christopher81018
@christopher81018 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not even a gear head or car guy but I enjoy watching your vids.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. lol at your thumbnail :)
@punker6506
@punker6506 7 жыл бұрын
I've gone rounds with those egr valves. it takes a few times to get one that works. also the AIR passages clogged with burnt oil. after cleaning passages did a BG engine flush and it helped the oil burning a lot
@yurbeeinwatched
@yurbeeinwatched 7 жыл бұрын
You are killing it man! Nice. I was hoping for a SMA or Ivan vid today. I guess 10 hours in the shop isn't enough. Gotta' love the claw hammer. I guess the claw end is for pulling stubborn plug wires.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Haha that is my magic claw hammer....got the stubborn Acura to start to remember?
@yurbeeinwatched
@yurbeeinwatched 7 жыл бұрын
It's the CLAW! THE CLAW! You can probably do head gaskets with roofing nails too. We don't need your stinkin' bolts!
@fernandgeenevan8773
@fernandgeenevan8773 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! WD40 vs. Breakcleaner!
@riblets1968
@riblets1968 4 жыл бұрын
The 1.9 Liter engine is famous for burning oil but I was fortunate enough to own one of the good ones that not only ran great but consumed about a quart every 3,000 miles or so, which is quite acceptable. I suspect that most of these engines were not worn in right when they were new or suffered some other form of neglect by their owners.
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they still sell that screen/gasket that GM used to use on the 4.3s that goes under the EGR valve to keep large pieces of carbon off the pintal? Also, when fuel trims are that far out of whack, the ECM has to re-learn unless you reset it.
@d.j.9961
@d.j.9961 7 жыл бұрын
I guess some people don't see the potential in things.at least u get to benefit on his oversight! u definitely have a leg up having your verus! I'd love to have one!!! These days u hafta be able to communicate with your vehicle to diagnose it!!! I like ur vids!!!! Keep Em coming!!!!
@jay7264
@jay7264 7 жыл бұрын
the oil may be contaminated with fuel and the engine is sucking up that vapor from the pcv thats why when you changed the oil the fuel trims got better
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Yup you got it!
@jay7264
@jay7264 7 жыл бұрын
sweet i feel smart. i guess taking engine diagnostics at boces tech back in the early 2000's helped
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 7 жыл бұрын
That makes sense, since it was dumping so much fuel into the engine...and the rings aren't good, so some of that fuel would leak past into the crank case. incidentally, even though the oil is fairly fresh from all that topping off, the filter will still be filling with contaminants, so I'd guess that should have been changed some time ago.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Now I wonder if all that raw gas helped to loosen up the piston rings? :)
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 7 жыл бұрын
Hmm...it would make sense, since gasoline is a pretty good solvent. Add that to the friction against the bore working the rings up and down in their lands, and it seems possible, I guess.
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 7 жыл бұрын
Change oil and filter. Use full synthetic lightweight as possible, Add 1 quart kerosene, to overfill by 1 quart. Stick up idle to 2k. Add 1 quart ATF and 1 quart acetone to half tank 91 octane. Run till fuel gone. While running- spray water in intake, about 1 gallon should be enough. All of this will deglaze the cylinders, free the rings, allow to reseal. Drain hot overnight, new filter. Refill with thicker synthetic, to keep clean. 1 quart Marvel + 2 tanks of fuel, all done.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Wow did you come up with that home-brew recipe all on your own? Wonder if it would have worked on that oil-burning Prizm that I fixed up a while back?
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 7 жыл бұрын
No, not "my idea" just Old School method of cleaning out gunk. On modern engines- rings rarely go "bad". they just get clogged up in the grooves, stick, and allow blowby. Same for valves. Cheap oil, infrequent changes, stop & go traffic, ethanol gas- all add up over time.
@fernandgeenevan8773
@fernandgeenevan8773 7 жыл бұрын
That should make an interesting video!
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 7 жыл бұрын
full synthetic on a worn out engine :)) smoke chooch machine, if the CAT. isnt bad it will be, O2;s also, as it blows more clouds than the silly e-cig fools :))
@daveyhouse
@daveyhouse 7 жыл бұрын
And use the engine for braking frequently. People don't do that anymore, When engine braking it will create a vacuum in the cylinders and lift the rings allowing the gunk under them to clean out. Kids today think hammer down to clean out but they packing more in, sure get he rpms up there BUT use those rpms to get negative pressure in the cylinders I recently a bought a 98 mountaineer w/5.0 180k that was using excessive amounts of oil, I used this process and couple months later no more oil usage. I do a lot of highway driving and everytime I exit, I pull the automatic down to 2nd gear at 75mph. I never did put any additives in to get to this point, just engine braking
@rexanderson5458
@rexanderson5458 6 жыл бұрын
Codes can push other codes aside. Replace the part from the code and retest. Warm the engine to clear the engine. There can be false codes causing wrong parts replacement. Use troubleshooting feature to diagnose codes. If you have persistent codes on same type cars, keep a record for quicker repairs.
@TheFantasybeats
@TheFantasybeats 7 жыл бұрын
It's running richer because of the already burnt oxygen "inert gas" that is being introduced back into the intake system causing the fuel trims we see. Because the EGR valve was stuck open. So basically it's filling the void where ambient air would be.
@ssprice1978
@ssprice1978 4 жыл бұрын
Wish you were closer. Have a 2000 dakota 4.7 with 45rfe transmission. Pressure switch on trans melted and shorted out was repaired by trans shop. Code for pressure switch will not clear.
@Pablo_Automotive
@Pablo_Automotive 7 жыл бұрын
Really nice diagnostic is very similar at Eric of the last week in a Honda.
@ELJORGE1
@ELJORGE1 7 жыл бұрын
Eric O just did the same video on a Honda ! LOL It had a piece of carbon stuck on the EGR valve.
@QueenCityHistory
@QueenCityHistory 7 жыл бұрын
a 5 speed mercury mystique? wow I have never seen a 5 speed before! looks like it's in good condition. I'd hang on to it as well
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a pretty neat car. Combo of Euro and American styling. It's all original too, and almost no rust! Original clutch is getting a little tired at 240k miles, but engine is running well and doesn't burn a drop of oil :)
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It has the Zetec 2.0 DOHC 4-banger under the hood. Very smooth engine. Rated at 24 city/34 highway, but I haven't hit 30mpg yet for some reason.
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 7 жыл бұрын
*CLEAN IT OUT*
@rhkips
@rhkips 7 жыл бұрын
Those Linear EGR valves GM uses are notorious for sticking; that's why they have that torx head thing on 'em! They're intended to be "serviced," as it were. Occasionally, doing so will cause the PCM to freak out, though. All GM vehicles with that Linear EGR design have an "EGR Position Relearn" procedure buried in the scantool somewhere, but in a pinch, disconnecting the battery overnight will force it to relearn as well. ;)
@willemstreutgers1154
@willemstreutgers1154 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan Use a can of ovencleaner, the foamy one and or BBQ cleaner. to clean the EGR-valve. For the engine Hubbabubba giave you the best oldschool method i agree. Use Synth.oil with a little thicker viscos.
@AdrianKingsleyHughes
@AdrianKingsleyHughes 7 жыл бұрын
The old "rev-up tune-up"! Good video!
@joelaplnski5394
@joelaplnski5394 7 жыл бұрын
Your a good comrade, I appreciate your honesty, I hope that never changes. Aren't those cars known for bad valve guide seals going bad thus causing the check the "gas and fill the oil" condition?
@joelaplnski5394
@joelaplnski5394 7 жыл бұрын
I have a five speed 04 4 banger grand am, I love that car. 185,000 no major issues with it just regular maintenance
@sixpacksandsrts9122
@sixpacksandsrts9122 7 жыл бұрын
Had a Saturn that was an oil burner. These are known for frozen rings did a piston soak and drastically reduced consumption
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
What is the magic fluid that you use to soak the pistons?
@jay7264
@jay7264 7 жыл бұрын
berrymans or sea foam. i also can confirm this. i just removed the spark plugs and pour it right in
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 7 жыл бұрын
change everything semi-synthetic manual shift and redline the hell out of it, aka (italian tune-up)
@sixpacksandsrts9122
@sixpacksandsrts9122 7 жыл бұрын
My exact method was draining oil. Put 3 quarts of high detergent oil. A gallon of diesel and idled it for an hour. Cooled down. Removed plugs. And used a mixture of pb blaster and marvels mystery oil. Let it soak for a few days and rotated it back and forth via crankshaft Then changed the oil. Afterwards These saturns are known for frozen oil rings. It worked great
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 7 жыл бұрын
Might soaking with sea foam have been better?
@kellyspeppers
@kellyspeppers 6 жыл бұрын
Had a 91 SC2, I always put in Mobile 1 full synthetic and changed oil at 5K. It never used oil or had problems with the EGR, but it did develop an oil leak at the head gasket at around 165K. It was a good car until it got totaled on the highway.
@kennethbrown7033
@kennethbrown7033 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ivan, I've seen in some instances involving GM's of that era and particularly with that EGR valve it was necessary to disconnect the battery after installation of a different EGR valve to clear the PCM of saved data. Does the Verus accomplish this step? Or is it just a myth to start with?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
I think the car automatically calculates the zero position on every key cycle. At least that's what I saw on scan data.
@SavNout01
@SavNout01 5 жыл бұрын
Wait a min Ian, I thought you were gonna give it back to your buddy and tell him it was just a simple EGR fix?
@paulcarroll750
@paulcarroll750 7 жыл бұрын
Ivans used car lot. lol Cool low dollar fix on a free car!!! Looked at a 99 saturn for my wife's coworker one time. Same p404 code. I tried explaining that carbon build up has probably made it stick and that I could probably fix it without any parts just a small labor charge and that I work cheap, but "all he wanted was to find out what the code said to tell him what part to buy and he would put it on himself".
@PaulHigginbothamSr
@PaulHigginbothamSr 3 жыл бұрын
I can certainly tell you why it stayed negative on the fuel trims st. Because the upstream cat was still plugged up because of not taking it out for wide open throttle for 20 seconds to clear out the cat.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the cat on this one...
@larryiliff7731
@larryiliff7731 7 жыл бұрын
It's probably going to plug the EGR valve again since it burns oil.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
That is a safe bet lol
@danisammy98
@danisammy98 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, so I my educated guess is that because the EGR is stuck open, it’s telling the computer that there is not enough fuel because of all the exhaust gases running back into the system, the O2 sensor is saying that there is so much air going past it, therefore creating a rich condition.
@haywardsautomotive6156
@haywardsautomotive6156 7 жыл бұрын
Nice quick diagnosis & repair. Speed density engines do not like stuck EGR valves...much more sensitive than MAF engines.
@MuhammadAli-su3oo
@MuhammadAli-su3oo 7 жыл бұрын
Hayward's Automotive Can you please explain about MAP Sensor? as Ivan said 28 inHg atmospheric and Good running Engine should be around 21 inHg while the actual reading was around 8 inHg in this video; what was the cause?
@haywardsautomotive6156
@haywardsautomotive6156 7 жыл бұрын
MAP sensors read Manifold Absolute Pressure so when you check it with engine off it'll read Barometric Pressure/Pressure Altitude and when it's running you take the pressure reading from the scan tool & subtract it from the baro pressure and you'll get the manifold vacuum. Manifold vacuum at idle for a healthy engine is 17-21 " Hg and you need to take into account Pressure Altitude which will affect manifold vacuum. The higher the elevation the lower the vacuum & less air density and vice versa near sea level. EGR into the intake lowers the vacuum similar to opening the throttle so the ECM provides more fuel which is why the fuel trims STFT & LTFT were negative trying to correct the excessive fuel. B/c of the excessive fuel it contaminated the oil which kept his fuel trims elevated until he changed the oil and then his fuel trims returned to normal. Hope this helps!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself :)
@MuhammadAli-su3oo
@MuhammadAli-su3oo 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@haywardsautomotive6156
@haywardsautomotive6156 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@GhettoWagon
@GhettoWagon 7 жыл бұрын
"Harley Davidson idle sound, Low miles Cold AC"
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Minus the A/C...just needs a new hose :)
@GhettoWagon
@GhettoWagon 7 жыл бұрын
Aww man!! deal breaker!
@stupa55
@stupa55 7 жыл бұрын
Why don't get rid of the EGR completely ? I see on many channels buying new EGR'S. Map it out and threw it away :D Less problems later on.
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 7 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that rebuilds Saturns. Back when they first came out with them,they made them to last because they had something to proove. He knew this and has been rebuilding them for a few years. He has all the specialty tools and when he is done,they last a long time. I personally Hate,hate hate Saturns. Two low to the ground.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Ha this thing is low and sporty; handles like a freaking go-cart! How much do you think I can sell this for? Has only 153k miles on it. Just fixed the A/C too :)
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 7 жыл бұрын
I can ask my friend,he buys them and rebuilds them and resells them all the time.
@wyokaiju992
@wyokaiju992 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I think this may explain a long standing issue with a vehicle i own.... Im going to need a decent scantool, but its worth a go!
@pczapp827
@pczapp827 7 жыл бұрын
What's with the yellow on those bushes -- never seen that in my 52 years in Northern N.J. or here in MD
@wx4newengland
@wx4newengland 7 жыл бұрын
EGR valves are fun, when mine let go I thought my care was toast.
@hnkfsh81
@hnkfsh81 7 жыл бұрын
The engine in Saturn S-series cars is known for faulty oil-control rings. Clogged EGR valves and passages are normal events. See KZbin videos form Richpin to learn how to deal with these issues. Keep the oil sump filled and this engine will run longer than most.
@uggadugga8070
@uggadugga8070 7 жыл бұрын
Those S-Series are known for the "700 mile quart". I've had 3 of them. All gone now, thank God.
@jdtractorman7445
@jdtractorman7445 7 жыл бұрын
I would check the undercarriage of both of those if you keep either of them. Saturns tend to rust out on the front subframe and also where the rear trailing arms bolt to the body. That Mercury Mystique aka Ford Contour is a pile, sorry but I worked on both of these models and if the Saturn is in ok shape on the body I would keep that over the Mercury. The S-series had problems with the piston rings sticking, you could try GM piston ring cleaner or some other substitute to see if they would free up. When you snapped the throttle and the EGR did not open, I believe the PCM has to see vehicle speed for it to open it.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 7 жыл бұрын
ready for scrap yard, chop it up and dump for most $$$
@daveyhouse
@daveyhouse 7 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna guess they never put oil relief holes in the oil ring grooves did they?
@pk6336158
@pk6336158 4 жыл бұрын
Took egr valve causing a vacuum leak, so the map sensor was telling the injector to add gas because its reading more are but it really isn't
@esdsecurity
@esdsecurity 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ivan. great vid as always. Random question but what camera/camcorder are you using to shoot this with?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Sony CX230 camcorder
@eriktisher5535
@eriktisher5535 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 with the same engine. Used a quart every 1,000 miles. Switched to high-mileage oil... Now it uses a quart every 2K miles.
@greygoosemafia
@greygoosemafia 7 жыл бұрын
Will you look at my 03 durango live data video plz?
@jay7264
@jay7264 7 жыл бұрын
my spidey senses tell me that it is running so rich due to there being less oxygen in the exhaust the ecu is trying to pull fuel away
@crcdesign9886
@crcdesign9886 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan! would you be able to use the PICO to see the egr valves pintle movement? what, if anything would that tell us? Thank you.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
You could use the built-in potentiometer, but that is already displayed on scan data so no need for the Pico here :)
@crcdesign9886
@crcdesign9886 7 жыл бұрын
motoYam82 Thank you. I was just curious if it would show anything.
@jannepo
@jannepo 7 жыл бұрын
Bit puzzled about question "Why does this car run so RICH with the EGR open?". ST Fuel trim was -50, so ECM is taking fuel away. I would think that reason is that there is way less oxygen in the intake gas mixture. With EGR open, half of the air in the intake is coming from exhaust and does not have oxygen any more. Your data showed that oxygen sensor went active as fuel trim s started to adjust. To get the amount of oxygen right in the exhaust, with only half of the amount of oxygen in the intake, you need to take half (-50%) of the fuel away. So the engine was running "right" but the gas mixture in the intake was wrong. It had only about 10% oxygen in it. As half of it was coming from open EGR and contained very little oxygen. This is based on -50% fuel trim. Thus the power was also half and engine was struggling to run. Just my $0.02
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
See Hayward's Automotive explanation in a comment below. The key to the extreme rich condition is the MAP reading :)
@jannepo
@jannepo 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about it, but I was thinking that if on a speed-density engine with MAP sensor you add air to intake side, ECM will see a lower intake manifold vacuum, add fuel and engine RPM will go up, but it will run fine and fuel trims are ok as manifold pressure matches with amount on fuel and oxygen sensor. MAP engine can not tell difference where the air is coming from. If for example idle adjusting air valve gets stuck, engine runs just fine, higher rpm but no problem. But if there is only half of the oxygen and same MAP reading, default injection chart (ST and LT trim = 0) does not match at all, default amount of fuel does not have enough oxygen to burn -> O2 sensor sees rich -> trim goes to -50% until O2 sensor is happy. This was a MAP engine?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Yup that is correct. Manifold pressure is elevated, but it's not fresh air coming in, but exhaust gases, which contain no oxygen to help burn the extra fuel being injected. At the same time, even LESS fresh air is being drawn in than would be on a normal idle, due to the same elevated manifold pressure. Almost a snowball effect.
@jannepo
@jannepo 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, its even worse. At 6:58 you had 20 in vacuum at idle, with a stuck open EGR. Which is about normal vacuum, so ECM had driven the idle air valve towards the closed position as the intake vacuum was at normal level -> most of the gas mixture in intake is coming from exhaust. At same time O2 sensor 1 still shows 800 mV at -50% ST fuel trim, very oxygen available. But the mind spinning thing is that that mixture was almost the right one. In a sense, not rich but lean on oxygen :-) :-) Great video! Thanks again Ivan!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
No, the MAP reports absolute absolute PRESSURE, not vacuum. This confused me for a minute in the video too. So when scan data reads "20inHg", the VACUUM you would see on a mechanical gauge is [28.7inHg - 20inHg = 8.7inHg vacuum], which is a terrible reading at idle! That is the exact reason for over-fueling! As you can see, after the car was fixed the MAP reads 8.0inHg at idle, which is a good PRESSURE reading. Manifold VACUUM in this case would be [28.7inHg - 8.0inHg = 20.7inHg] which is a good vacuum reading at idle :)
@akachuck99
@akachuck99 7 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in buying it.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
$1500 OBO let me know :)
@547Rick
@547Rick 7 жыл бұрын
Change the oil and put a quart of Lucas Oil Treatment.
@sixpacksandsrts9122
@sixpacksandsrts9122 7 жыл бұрын
My 00 tacoma 3.4. Has always run like a champ. When it sits for a couple weeks it has an issue. Has no codes nothing Runs great up to 3200 than hits a wall. It doesn't stumble. It . Literally sounds like a rev limiter after a week of driving it redlines again. Any thoughts ?? It's doing it now.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Wow very weird! But those 3.4 V6 are pretty torquey...no need to rev past 3k rpm lol
@leedress2187
@leedress2187 7 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Brake Clean when you put that thing in the vise. I guess wd40 is a little safer.. LOL Nice work.. THE CLAW!!!!
@brianborer1941
@brianborer1941 7 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to buy an aultel scanner which one should I buy?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
The MaxiSys 908 is pretty good I hear.
@s980845
@s980845 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have anymore cars available either for free or for very cheap? I need something reliable for job search and to take the kids places as im recently unemployed
@joeconley1981
@joeconley1981 7 жыл бұрын
One thing I learned is that they are notorious for having problems with the EGR valve on Saturn's.
@dennisriblett4622
@dennisriblett4622 7 жыл бұрын
I paid $950 for a sc2 identical to this 3 years ago ,Put another 25,000 miles on it and sold it for $1000 ,Great stereo [if you can't say something nice ...] I would buy another .
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
After driving this one around for a bit, I do believe they are underrated. Quick, reliable, fuel efficient, fun... :)
@dennisriblett4622
@dennisriblett4622 7 жыл бұрын
I agree ,I would put the cornering and handling at the top of the list ,I would like a little more power than the 1.9 produced
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It does corner like a go-cart on rails! Not the smoothest ride on a gravel lane with potholes though lol
@jpecorel1
@jpecorel1 7 жыл бұрын
Had a '95 SC2. I loved the way it handled. Drank oil, but the stereo and flip up headlights were awesome. 40 miles to the gallon. Then I got hit by a teenage girl in a Pontiac. The dent-resistant side panels can withstand a golf ball, but not a Sunfire. No more Saturn.
@Boodieman72
@Boodieman72 7 жыл бұрын
Probably needs a good engine oil flush to clean out those rings and see if they come back to life. Much easier and cheaper than taking it apart and putting in new rings.
@rrcoster
@rrcoster 7 жыл бұрын
That no joke for sure that Saturn L4 1.9L engine a oil burner every single one ive seen burns oil like crazy.
@tinkerwest
@tinkerwest 7 жыл бұрын
With those cars, I think timing chain and sprockets replacement without even seeing the video yet....Now on to the video....
@charlesmiller5078
@charlesmiller5078 7 жыл бұрын
Give him the option to get car back, after paying for the repair. Hes a friend after all.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
I did...he already got a new car lol
@jonathanechevarria7471
@jonathanechevarria7471 3 жыл бұрын
The Saturn S-Series are good cars. Not much to go wrong with them. Especially the ones with the manual 5-speed only 150k on this car. Funny change oil filter and a PVC valve. Put it on Craigslist for a thousand bucks easy money
@eddiemartinez265
@eddiemartinez265 7 жыл бұрын
A claw hammer Ivan?
@rustedratchetgarage6788
@rustedratchetgarage6788 5 жыл бұрын
Had one shear the cam pin onthe exhsust cam detonated center 2 cylinders to the point of piston damage
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be worth just deleting the EGR with a steel plate to stop it gumming up with carbon deposits given its an oil burner? The Mercury with the 5 speed might do well for you if its not rusty. A lot of the 1.8/2 litre Mk1 Ford Mondeos only got scrapped over here because they rusted. The engines were very good. In fact those are the best engines Ford have or will ever make along with the 1.6 in the Focus.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
The 2.0 on this one purrs like new and exhaust pipe is clean. Almost no rust...car is from southern Pennsylvania originally.
@johnmckamy6398
@johnmckamy6398 7 жыл бұрын
great battery at least
@josephpacelli3341
@josephpacelli3341 7 жыл бұрын
my 93 olds had the same symptoms as the Saturn turned out to be a TPS
@ericcorse
@ericcorse 7 жыл бұрын
He may have given it to you but do you hold the title? I agree it is best to give him a chance to sell it
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 7 жыл бұрын
chop it up, no need title to scrap in chunks, at least here :)
@Adam-bw4lw
@Adam-bw4lw 7 жыл бұрын
try 50/50 mix of atf and acetone....
@vincebauer4777
@vincebauer4777 7 жыл бұрын
it a self changer pop... a filter on once and a wile lol
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 7 жыл бұрын
Your buddy needed a reason to unload that car from his life and this problem was it. He wanted a new car and need to justify spending the money!!
@nandor690
@nandor690 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't the "shop" just his house and the "lot" just his driveway?
@Tedybear315
@Tedybear315 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that. Less overhead! Plus when he wants to give up for the day? Nice short drive home...
@sixpacksandsrts9122
@sixpacksandsrts9122 7 жыл бұрын
I run rural kings house brand oil in an oil burner 160 a quart !!
@chadharmon5716
@chadharmon5716 7 жыл бұрын
Keyboard warrior Hitman hilarious 😂
@arciefan
@arciefan 7 жыл бұрын
You need to mess with Eric a bit and when you use that wd40,,, do the throw it into the camera shot with the sound effect.
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 7 жыл бұрын
Only one thing better than a 5-speed. A 6-speed. :-)
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 7 жыл бұрын
I don't even think about it - the hand and feet work automatically these days. It's to be expected, I guess - in 35 years on the road I've never owned an automatic (and hope I never need to!) On the other hand, I don't live in a city these days, so I don't have to deal with heavy traffic any more. :-)
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 7 жыл бұрын
aussiebloke609 6 speeds are definitely good for diesel cars if you cruise on the motorway at 70+mph a lot.
@juanrodriguez-ry6yt
@juanrodriguez-ry6yt 7 жыл бұрын
LIKE VALVE SEAT GRINDING
@QueenCityHistory
@QueenCityHistory 7 жыл бұрын
sounds like my grandpa's old farm tractor
@daveyhouse
@daveyhouse 7 жыл бұрын
This car really is an old hit and miss
@rubengarcia6920
@rubengarcia6920 5 жыл бұрын
Oooo high density engine makes a defrence
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 7 жыл бұрын
Plug this into a *manifold* vacuum line, and with throttle at 2k, just give 2-3 second bursts of plain water, or windshield washer fluid works great too. www.lowes.com/pd/Chapin-1-Gallon-Plastic-Tank-Sprayer/1000176199
@sweetwilliam49
@sweetwilliam49 7 жыл бұрын
Don't know if my conscience would let me sell that oil burner. Maybe if I told them it was a junker.
@johnmckamy6398
@johnmckamy6398 7 жыл бұрын
air filter is probably totally clogged up
@Slonya23
@Slonya23 7 жыл бұрын
You sir need to open you patreon page ASAP!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Working on it!
@tinkerwest
@tinkerwest 7 жыл бұрын
Not fair, you used a scanner AND a hammer... ;)~
@GarthGoldberg
@GarthGoldberg 7 жыл бұрын
He gave it to you. You've got a wife to support. On another note, Spring is here. Winter beard can go.
@2aminitials
@2aminitials 7 жыл бұрын
The beard of knowledge shall never go away. Or is that the board of knowledge?
@chadharmon5716
@chadharmon5716 7 жыл бұрын
FYI when we say "oil burner" it means it's a diesel I was very confused for a sec lol
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
haha nope just regular engine oil xD
@samg5543
@samg5543 7 жыл бұрын
EGR is inert, so not lean, but rich.
@rubengarcia6920
@rubengarcia6920 5 жыл бұрын
O a gues again from me timing chain jumped
@doomsick8171
@doomsick8171 7 жыл бұрын
I like it hammer fix
@jeramiet154
@jeramiet154 5 жыл бұрын
calm down with the screwdriver. scraping the bore and causing sticking. I know youre smarter than that Ivan. no more torture like this again please lol
@jeffreymurdock8366
@jeffreymurdock8366 4 жыл бұрын
Easy fix and can last a long time but wd40 doesn't clean it all that well. A little carb cleaner would have cleaned it in seconds almost completely without any of the stuff you had to do. I should know because I've done it myself
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 7 жыл бұрын
Money in the bank!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It will be when someone actually buys it haha :)
@jordydereus
@jordydereus 7 жыл бұрын
oh ... its a 5 speed.... so what? here in europ we want automatics!
@Brew6069
@Brew6069 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2002 sl2 mine runs great !!132000
@eddiemartinez265
@eddiemartinez265 7 жыл бұрын
If it's that bad how is the cat.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Looked perfect, especially after I welded up that exhaust leak before the flexpipe :)
@Jonathan11225
@Jonathan11225 7 жыл бұрын
drink as much oil as a Honda ,its an Saturn SC2 by the way. Nice Video Yvan
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
oh yeah sorry I got confused..."C" for "Coupe" right?
@Jonathan11225
@Jonathan11225 7 жыл бұрын
exactly ! hah
@chrisfreemesser
@chrisfreemesser 7 жыл бұрын
SC = coupe, SW=wagon, SL=sedan. 1=base model with SOHC, 2=higher-end model with DOHC engine. Therefore, you have an SC2 there
@samrugtiv5563
@samrugtiv5563 7 жыл бұрын
give it back to him
@dreamer2355
@dreamer2355 7 жыл бұрын
You should donate it to a needy cause
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Like a local high school so the kids can learn to drive a stick-shift, like those old timers haha
@RicardoPCGamer
@RicardoPCGamer 7 жыл бұрын
AutoTechDale it wouldn't be a bad idea to donate it to a school auto class.
@markborrmannjr
@markborrmannjr 7 жыл бұрын
Those fuel trims still aren't good... They should stay close to 0 while driving and the engine being revved also
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It was still re-learning after the oil change. The TOTAL trim (STFT + LTFT) was in fact pretty close to zero :)
@markborrmannjr
@markborrmannjr 7 жыл бұрын
Ok.... From what I was seeing you possibly had a partially sticking injector and at least 1 cylendar was getting to much fuel, which would explain the stuck egr and the extremely negative fuel trims... But if you didn't show the entire fix and they went normal after you stopped recording the video I wouldn't know that ya know.... Lol... Hopefully you decide to share video til the end so we can see things like that, lol... It's always nice to see the fix ya know.... You are doing good videos though, so don't think I feel your not or anything... I've learned a few things from ya already so I'm happy you are one of the people in this world that share education.... I love it... You, Eric o, and Eric the car guy are doing it right... So, hope ya have a good week man and thanks again!
@11begood31
@11begood31 7 жыл бұрын
Ah right wait till his dad finds out he gave away his car doesn't appear like the guy has money to throw away
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
haha actually this dude just got his PhD and a well-paying job so no worries there :)
@tiredoldmechanic1791
@tiredoldmechanic1791 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't change oil, the engine will start using oil.
@paulbarnes1936
@paulbarnes1936 7 жыл бұрын
give it back to ur buddy..
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
He doesn't want it...already driving a new "reliable" car :P
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 7 жыл бұрын
""It barely runs...2001 Saturn Coupe"" isn't that all Saturns? :)) up next cat converter bad, O2 sensors, "oil/zinc polluted"
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Actually after I welded up the exhaust leak all the monitors ran through, downstream O2 happy as can be!
@ARAR148
@ARAR148 5 жыл бұрын
Your an idiot, Saturns we’re one of the best, reliable cars out there. I had one that ran perfect at 336,000 miles and I have one now with 262k miles and it does not burn any oil, and no most saturns out last a lot of cars on road
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