It Beings... Joyboys Plan Revealed

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[@jasonalbano4]

Joy Boy just wanted to throw a big party on the moon and Imu wasn't invited.

[@kakarotkills7]

Lol

[@Corax.S]

Enel's just chilling at a table with a big cake and a bunch of robots, waiting for someone else to join him.

[@ssureshk]

Best theory on one piece😂

[@ssureshk]

Tho oda is the type of guy to do that💀🥲

[@Buffington_Ms_Buffing]

how about no

[@shafeenrifs]

The Roger Pirates were defs laughing because they realised all of this aren't gonna be their problem.

[@TheK01234]

I think he hid Uranus on top of Zunesha and losing it was his crime. He walks looking for it forever.

[@ArthurxElite240]

Zunesha deff did not carry it I bet Uranus is a satellite that orbits the planet powers by the mother flame

[@NutsInYourMouth]

Or he accidently stepped on poseidon, which was his unforgiveable mistake

[@Nightsu]

The Nika fruit is kind of scary when Luffy (Joyboy) uses it. Every time its animated he looks like hes lost all sense of self in exchange for having fun. The glowing eyes, hysterical laughing and destruction like he doesn't truly care about anything around him at times. Him laughing when Sentonmaru and Vegapunk both got gravely wounded. Just a thought, he usually thinks about his surroundings when not in that form.

[@Deadkeinen]

Are you trying to tell me that when Luffy smacked Doflamingo so hard he caused a major deformation of Dressrosa he was thinking about his surroundings?

[@ThatcrazyAK]

@@Deadkeinenlol 😂

[@Firstgaming9]

@@DeadkeinenTbf he didn’t really have a choice to be picky at that time. It was either that or everyone dying 😅

[@markjefferies2544]

Said this from the first appearance. There is evil in that character.

[@someonefeelsgood410]

I don't think so, cuz he was normally communicating with Momo while fighting Kadio, and he was also outraged when Kizaure killed Vegapunk

[@boiledodenproductions]

The revelations continue to drop, and I am guessing that we have another 2 to 3 chapters left in this "reveal" saga. This will start a new arms race for the weapons.

[@juancadavid5535]

Maybe Joy Boy created the weapons to save everyone and destroy the evil. We have Uranus that can possibly fly and save everyone in skypiea, we have pluton that can rescue everyone in the land and we have Poseidon that can control the beast and lift the Noah to the surface. Maybe his goal was to do everything but he was not able and had to leave everything to the next Joy Boy.

[@rixsayo.1]

FACTS

[@emperorvipulgaming]

Oh damn

[@kalebcain6687]

This makes a lot of sense

[@pieceD399]

Maybe thats Luffy dream , join everyone and make a big feast Maybe why Rayleigh doesnt want vegapunk tp speak to mutch , he knows luffy is like Roger and wants adventure , not some mission

[@k.i.nehal.3797]

Yeah I also thinks so. I think Lily was joyboy's gf or wife. At some point Joyboy gave his crew members in Lily's hand. But she betrayed him. And all his crew members couldn’t help Joyboy. Because it was too late. And they all lost. That's why Iron giant said sorry to Joyboy. And with Lily, Imu ruled the world. But after sometime she understood her mistake. So, she then tried to make everything ok. But it was too late. Then she created a way for the new joyboy. And hide all the ancient weapons. To inspire new people she created the one piece ( don't know what it is.) But Imu after knowing it removed the history. And did something to Lily. But Roger found it and did the same thing that Lily wanted over 800 years ago.

[@MihawkTopOne]

The time has finally arrived. Luffy will be revealed as the true villain and Zoro will officially become main protagonist.

[@firdanharbima6997]

-Least brainrot theory of One Piece

[@rixsayo.1]

Luffy will be defeated and Zoro and the straw hats will be devastated since they had to defeat him -he was just too powerful

[@muhammadmusa6276]

I love when Kingoflightning refused to accept Luffy could beat Katakuri, and said he's the new protagonist. 😂 Your comment reminded me of that lol

[@Therealgodofanime]

Na I think that job boy loved emu but emu manipulated joyboy to giving the enchant weapon and she loved lily but lily said no to here and she got mad...

[@fragez]

One Piece: Shippuden

[@jaceleonce8145]

york being greed and betraying vegapunk has to be the funniest thing ever cause with greed you always want more...

[@pieceD399]

To mutch greed normally has a bad ending , she should be smart to know it

[@nathanlevesque7812]

*most obvious thing ever?

[@nathandeffler2096]

I agree that the Lunarians were in possession of Uranus; probably since they were the strongest of the winged races (Shandorians and Skypieans). Also the ancient weapons are probably based off the Leviathan (Sea Kings), Behemoth (Zunesha), and Ziz (in Jewish lore; it resembles a griffin or the Iranian Roc, but could be a dragon with similar features). It is also said that the Behemoth is sleeping deep in the Earth, while the Leviathan is free, but imprisoned to the sea. There was also a myth that the Leviathan had a mate, but god killed it in fear of what their children would do. If I remember, the Ziz is only being to be still loyal to God and forever flies above the clouds. It rules over everything and none are its equal in the sky, except God. This could elude to the alliance of the ancient weapons in the battle 800 years ago. I also agree that Imu is the Lunarian that controls the weapon, but he might have lost his wings in battle like a fallen angel. The seraphim are probably a key piece of information into what the Moon's civilization where Imu's people were originally from to how the ancient kingdom operated. Cause the story of Atlantis has many similar characteristics to what happened 800 years ago. Many kingdoms started with righteous kings, but grew corrupt and greedy and decided to rule the world. Many parts of the story were missing, but it basically states that Athens held its own and pushed them back and Poseidon sank the continent into the sea. Atlantis had the best weapons and materials, but its hubris led to its downfall. I do believe that Atlantis and the Battle of Heaven are probably contributing factors into what happened to the One Piece World, there is probably more to it that Oda is taking from. I do agree that Imu was probably a friend or even best friend of Joyboy similiar to what Optimus Prime and Megatron were before they chose their factions. I believe that Lily was the cause of the rift on top of their differing opinions on the many issues of the world. The initial D might be the true name of Joyboy (his nickname like Luffy with Strawhat) and those who have the D initial are descendents of those who were loyal and fought for Joyboy 900 years ago. Maybe Lili refused Imu's world rule and took on the D initial and spread the poneglyphs before disappearing. Those with the initial who flaunt are those who were found out and have to wear it like the Scarlet Letter. So the world shames them, while those who have it hidden were never found out and can carry on his will to the world. Even though Lili was probably evil, she was probably Lilith to Imu's Adam while Joyboy was the devil (Samael/Satan) who wanted to bring free will or freedom to the world. Thus Imu was probably set to marry Lili, but she chose Joyboy secretly and helped him in the shadows while providing superficial support for her "husband." I believe that God's Valley was the site of the final battle of Joyboy and the ancient alliance where the Celestials re-enact the final battle to celebrate the victory of their ancestors. Maybe Xebec learned of Joyboy's legacy there and why the World Government wiped it off the map in case the survivors come back to acquire it. This is probably the key piece for the formation of the Revolutionary Army and true form of the One Piece.

[@kalebcain6687]

I like this theory

[@SOFI-AYAAN]

ayo bruh this is bigger than one piece

[@oh3710]

"you either die a hero or live long enough to be a villan" never made more sense before now

[@CTP909]

Yes it did. Lol when it was originally said

[@Madden-mq1cb]

aot, code geoss?

[@micklucas1451]

@@Madden-mq1cb Spiderman?

[@williamgordon5443]

The ancient weapons causing the flooding could be that Joyboy didn't know how bad the flooding was going to be. This could be part of how he failed and then set things up for the future. This could also reflect the fact that the scientists working on a certain weapon to end WWII were worried about what might happen when they use the weapon. There was a scene in the trailer for Oppenheimer (paraphrasing) where a military personnel was asking about "a non-zero chance of igniting the atmosphere" and the scientist said "What do you want?" with a responds "a zero chance".

[@m05513]

I don't think he wasn't aware of how bad the flooding would be. He had the Noah built, and Noah in Abrahamic religions was a guy who was told by God that the world would be flooded, so make a big boat to save enough to repopulate the planet afterwards. As such, I suspect the Noah was specifically built to save humanity from the rising water levels brought about by Uranus, rather than the current in-universe theory of taking the fishmen to the surface.

[@michaeldufour6187]

joyboy "had" all the weapons. he lost one to the allied forces and they used it to blow up the the islands that were against the soon to be world government. IMU has had one since that time but he ran out of "power" to use it until recently.

[@christopheringram3597]

Nope, this chapter implies he had control over all 3 during the void century, and the flooding took place during the void century.

[@xhulioaliraj4428]

I think joy boy doesn't need the mother flame to use the ancient weapons as Imu....same thing will hapen with luffy,this is why the ancient robot wake up once gear 5 came on

[@sgnox7781]

That is what we thought originally since it makes the most sense storywise. But this chapter reveals that a piece of motherflame was stolen to wipe lulusia, that begs the question if it is imu and world government that used it, why they stole the piece of it, they wouldnt need to do that.

[@pieceD399]

Its probably something like that , the blue print Franky had was made has a anti ancien weapon Maybe the weapons Joy Boy created were made to destroy Imu weapon Thats why he worked really hard to create the poneglyphs with his weapons and Raftel included , without it no one could fight Imu

[@pieceD399]

@@christopheringram3597 We know Joy Boy had the weapons but we dont know if Imu had weapons to I think its logical that Imu had weapons and Joy Boy created weapons to destroy Imu weapons Imu wants to hide history to keep her power safe Joy made the Poneglyphs to give knowleadge to the next generations and to say where his weapons are hidded I cant see another option

[@keithanderson5913]

plot twist is that luffy's dad is the dragon they're using to move uranus. he made clouds and directed the wind on loguetown.

[@Baab5795]

Roger had an egg on his ship. Maybe this is the Dragon in the future they need for using the ancient weapon.

[@minorityzoro]

@@Baab5795 that was roger not dragon

[@pieceD399]

Its a Pirate anime , wouldnt be strange if all Ancien weapons were related to ships , one that flyes , one normal ship , one submarine Maybe Enel Island were holding the Ancien weapon blue print and he build it , now Imu got it since Imu is probably related to the Moon Maybe , maybe :)

[@Buffington_Ms_Buffing]

seriously or are you joking

[@keithanderson5913]

@@Buffington_Ms_Buffing mostly joking, haha, unless?

[@snowmaneftp4096]

Usually you are cooking but not with this one.

[@floreaciprian9742]

I kinda have the same issue with most OP theories of this kind. Whats the funny part? Remember that Roger laughed. Everyone laughed. That is 100% important. No matter how well put togheter the theories are, they all kinda leave this detail behind

[@paawta]

Even though this is solid, I'm still not over the fact, that we got a particular panel with Elizabello II, who states that he knows NOTHING about what happened to Lulusia. I mean we can assume, that there are a lot more people that don't know anything about what happens to or on islands next to theirs, let alone across the ocean. Therefore we actually can assume, that IMU/WG used Uranus a lot more, obviously unbeknowst to the public. There is even a point on how WG "used up" all of the "original motherflame" and "stumbled" across Vegapunk, who then created another version of the motherflame, as replacement and as fuel for uranus.

[@drishalballaney6590]

one more strange thing is, the way the elders said, "Lulusia never existed" kinda like as if it was not just destroyed, but also erased from people's memories kinda like how hobi hobi no mi worked, but since it was only mother flame it did not wipe out the memories as well, which could also explain why no one really knows or remembers the void century

[@paawta]

​@@drishalballaney6590 Hm.. I wouldn't go that far. Saying Uranus could alter your memories seems way too far off imo. I see it in a way more natural way or fashion. People just wouldn't believe you, that it existed. The best example would be Noland, who found Shandora. After he left, Shandora got beamed upwards never to be seen again.

[@stevejones8550]

Im so damn happy that the live action came out. One piece is now one of my favorites. I would've never got into it without the live action

[@Ryquard1]

Same, a fresh start was all i need to get into it, the first time i heard of one piece was in 2006 ish, at that time there were already a lot chapters which seemed huge for me more than 300 seemed too much, also the 4kids dub destroyed the anime for me, it made it seem stupid af, at that time i did not know much about translation issues, so it flew under my radar, in 2010 more or less it came back with the reveal of what happened to Ace, and since then it its been on the back of my mind, then i heard of Gear 4th and o said wow it looks odd but i like it, still did not managed to start the manga, the anime at thst time was never an option, i knew of the pacing issues, finaly last year when they announced both animated Gear 5th which confirmed my suspicion of luffy being a kind of deity (in gear 4th without knowing anithing about one piece i noticed the smoke beside him looked like a haguromo a silky scarf that is ussually depicted with gods or kamis in asian culture, when i saw it again in G5 it solidified it as the haguromo is no longer smokey and ethereal is mor cloudlike and solid, also his last name being Monkey connected him to Son Wukong for me) boy oh boy how the lanky rubber boy became a god? I needed to start reading it now, i looked at the manga chapter count, i inmediatly noped 😂, then a month later the LA was on Netflix, i did my research and they said they compressed 92 manga chapters or 42ish anime episodes in 8 2 hour episodes and i thought maybe the LA is bad as all anime LA adaptations, it gonna be funny to laugh at it for how bad it must be, boy oh boy, how was I Gomu gomu bazookaed in the guts. The LA was gorgeous, the costume and props were perfect, the story so beautifull. I finally understood, i needed to read the whole thing, how the rubber boy daring to stab himself in the eye to show Shanks he can be a pirate became a god. It read it all in 3 months. It has been an awesome journey, still not giving the anime a chance Toei pacing is horrid, but im watching the clips here and there and following along egghead

[@Hairo3]

you’re joking right ?

[@jimbeam-ru1my]

you shouldn't be watching these theory channels until after you've caught up reading the manga.

[@RutabegaNG]

​@@Hairo3joking about what? There are tons of people who only decided to give the manga or anime a shot _after_ watching the live action. Gets interesting when they decide to do reactions. They can't help but compare it. Some thought they'd stop where the LA ends and wait for the next LA season. So far, the ones I know of have all decided to keep going.

[@thegrumpmaster7588]

Welcome to the family. Question why are you spoiling yourself?

[@kromozome4181]

If Roger fought xebec because they were an « evil pirate » why was he laughing and dying to meet Joyboy knowing the content of the poneglyphs and the secret of the one piece when he landed in Laugh tale ? I think it’s another Oda curve ball to misguide us towards joy boys true intention. Otherwise the whole Roger story would be tainted I feel

[@sgnox7781]

It is not fully confirmed that xebec was evil, even though that it most likely the case. We have to remember that he attacked celestial dragons at god valley and they are definitely not good, also they were using s laves for their hunting games at god valley so its not so clear cut that he is entirely evil, also whitebeard was in his crew and he is depicted mostly as a pretty good character. But yea that scene with roger seemed to be disproving the joyboy evil story.

[@robf1557]

​@@sgnox7781 until its revealed, I will continue to believe that Rocks was a good guy

[@sgnox7781]

@@robf1557 i mean yea he is most likely evil but its ambigous at these point, his action on paper dont seem like of the evil character, but you can do evil in the name of good and his methods could have been disastrous etc but yea we wont know for sure until its finnaly revelead.

[@pukaenjada808]

I just love how u break everything down I can never get enough of your channel 🤙🤙

[@kamaljitsingh5926]

I waited the whole weekend for this

[@jackhudson7501]

did anyone notice how crocus is at the start of the grand line and Rayleigh is at the halfway point so does that mean that the only roger pirates we dont know the whereabouts of Scopper Gaban could be at the last island or the end of the grand line which is where luffy will go after he finds out that the last road poneglyph isn't on Elbaf

[@Rockshow2oo8]

Always enjoy watching your videos 🤩🔥

[@thomas-cummings402]

The apology from Joyboy is him saying i’m sorry for using the weapons because he did not know they would lead to such destruction and luffy denying getting the ancient weapon from Wano is setting up Luffy not needing them to win the war

[@Xacolati]

It was already said that the apology's letter was due JoyBoy wasn't able to fulfill a promise made to the ancient Poseidon

[@xhulioaliraj4428]

@Xacolati he might sink the world into blue and then realise that he also sinks the kingdom of posedon

[@houstonwelch4253]

@@Xacolati maybe, since the fishmen wanted to come to the surface, he promised just that, but had to apologize since he’s done the exact opposite of his promise-instead of bringing them to the surface, he pushed them further into the depths of the sea.

[@Xacolati]

@@xhulioaliraj4428 That hypothesis has a lot of problems. At first, the Fish Men's Island is ten thousand meters below sea level and we know that, during the Void Century, sea levels only risen 200 meters. And the second one is that hypothesis doesn't explain the promise. On top of that, why does Joyboy has to be the cause of sea levels risen?

[@xhulioaliraj4428]

​@@Xacolatimaybe Joy boy had to ask Podidon for using the ancient weapons,they came to a deal that after Joy boy use the ancient weapons to fight the enemy then he will use Noah to save the land which would sink after the 200m....but he never made it to Noah

[@titania396]

In One Piece usually the gods/divine beings are usually antagonists so I think instead of Joyboy it was Imu who flooded the Earth and makes it more likely for Lily if she is based on Lilith to actually be good. That’s just a theory 😊

[@jimbeam-ru1my]

"In One Piece usually the gods/divine beings are usually antagonists" Congratulations on figuring that out. 95% of the readers are still oblivious to that reality. One Piece is based on the greek myth of prometheus. The gorosei are actually the gods of olympus. Im is zeus.

[@johnnypollack3243]

Keep up the awesome work and videos ohara love the video

[@praveenrod]

The robot be scarin shit Outta gorosei

[@bryceevans264]

Honestly it looks to me like the ancient kingdom had Uranus stolen and the 20 kings used it to get rid of joyboy

[@kbpb8002]

Random theory. The "one piece" is actually another weapon, but it lowers the sea level, making the world one piece of land again, and it was hidden by joyboy, so Imu doesnt destroy it.

[@dfile7598]

My thoughts & opinions of the chapter: 1. With Crocodile watching Vegapunk's message, as well learning why the Roger Pirates did what he did, I now wonder if Buggy will become his guide into helping him find the Pluton! Who knows, this could be a perfect way for both sides of Cross Guild to get what they want! 2. It's no surprise that sometime in the next chapter, York & the Elders will try to destroy the Iron Giant in an effort to end Vegapunk's message for good. But regardless on how the broadcast ends, do you think that what Vegapunk said until now will be what inspires the world to rebel against the Government, and/or at least save themselves from another massive flood? 3. If Rayleigh & Shakky were at Sabody, then it is possible that the Boa sisters & Gloriosa are tagging along with Hancock in her journey to find & "marry" Luffy, which could become an unexpected set up for the next Arc, regardless on where the SH & their allies will go after Egghead! If so, then this could be a great opportunity for some Hancock related theories to be confirmed one way or another! 4. If Vegapunk is able to take his share of the blame for what happened to Lulusia, then it might be possible for him to make amends with the Kuja Tribe who were harmed by the Seraphim. Whether or not the citizens of Amazon Lily will be able to forgive him.

[@jimbeam-ru1my]

" I now wonder if Buggy will become his guide into helping him find the Pluton!" You'd have to be retarded to make buggy your guide on a treasure hunt. "or at least save themselves from another massive flood?" They can't save themselves. If they could, Rogers crew would have told everyone about it.

[@Payitnov]

Big respect for you making the connection to the younger dryas. I honestly think one piece may hold even further secrets of the real world..!!

[@DiamondXxLilx]

I could imagine that Uranus has a beam launching through space. Maybe its even a Satellite, as the Beam came directly on Imus wish with no need for uranus to travel over Lulucia. And i could imagine for Enel to see the big beam launching from space as he now decides to come down to earth or to get Uranus

[@druvan.k3925]

oda sensei always use the same concept one coin with two shades( coin has head and tails like good and bad) so Oda is fooling us that imu is bad and joy boy is good but in Oda's mind imu is good and joy boy is bad. he used this concept in case of kuma, señor pink, doflammingo, kaido, king.

[@THEMilesMorales]

1 minute ago is crazy😂 but thanks for the consistent uploads

[@qtar1984]

It may not be that Joy Boy had them all along, so much as hiding them. Remember that the So Called Ancient Weapons have been theorized to be tools first and weapons second.

[@stevenkocks7529]

So if it's 80% confirm joyboy used weapons just because he had them. Does that mean 80% of gun owners have shot someone? That's your reasoning someone has weapon they used it for bad deeds. Literally defining comjecture

[@sankai91]

Imho Imu is *not* the orricial person to control Uranus - which is why they need the mother's flame - to undergo the "natural" way to activate the weapon

[@noah826]

Or, the mother flame is the original joyboy’s heart. But before he died, he told the people of skypiea to hide away from the government until the time is right. As well as having the god of sand, god of the sea and god of electricity to take away the most powerful weapons so imu won’t use them. However, sense the void century weapons are being used again. This could mean that imu had found one of them and found out how to use it. Most likely by stealing a bit of the mother flame and commanding it with the mother flame to make imu seem like the Reincarnation of the new joyboy. I say this because the void century weapons seem to only react to joyboys heartbeat/drums.

[@user-ds8qn1xn6m]

What if chopper actually ate the earth god fruit (earth god from Skypia) and it chose him for his strong will to help dr Hikiluk or all the sick people in the story

[@Leonit-mn2jq]

Tbh if the government were the heroes why woukd they try to hide it the 5 elders were trying to stop vegapunk from telling the truth

[@ayushsingh2731]

Maybe they were good initially but became evil as time passed

[@Mortarion-xt9wp]

My theory is that Imu is the only king of old left and that the elders were recruited later. Imu was a "hero" but decided that something like what Joyboy did can't ever happen again. As time passes his methods become ever more extreme because humans don't like to be controlled and will always attempt to change the status quo.

[@ashvektari8627]

Theory: The ancient weapons consist of 3 parts. 1. The actual weapon 2. An animal / creature for transportation of weapon 3. The person who commands the animal. In the case of Posiedon - Shirahoshi is the person and she commands sea kings to pull Noah. In the case of Pluton : Momonosuke is commanding Zunesha to Pull Pluton And in the case of Uranus : Vivi will command a dragon to pull Uranus, and as we know Imu has already used the Uranus this means she has the Dragon which was hatched from the Giant egg found on the Roger's Ship or as we know the Government was experimenting to create dragons on punk hazard. Now here's the thing ... I think Lily was able to command Dragons and that's why IMU swapped his soul with Lily and performed perpetual youth surgery on Lily's body with the help of Op Op no mi to command Dragons. Now as Vivi is born with the same power Lily's power to control the dragon is getting weaker and that's why IMU said that he desires Vivi, so he can swap the body again. Now to prove my point even further, IMU says We and Us . And we know from punk hazard that when Law swapped Everyones soul their Voice also swapped, for ex. Chopper's body was swapped with Franky and we got to hear Franky's voice.. That's why the voice actor for IMU will be a male. Hope u like it ..

[@absolvt_]

Spanish speaker here! A really interesting thing about Vira Island is that "VIRAR" verb stands for something like 'to swirl' or 'to flip'. A VERY whirlpooly related coincidence if u ask me....

[@aukir]

I wonder if Joyboy accidentally did something to the mother flame that caused all those island's mother flame reactor power plants to explode?

[@therunnahh]

Yababababababba

[@lost_Selenian]

It's possible

[@Mrfantastic92]

I super disagree with this Theory. I honestly cant believe you think Joyboy was evil because he possessed the ancient weapons. I really think he was left in charge of them because of his stature. Who he represented. The 20 kings most likely didnt agree with leaving him in charge with all that power, ended up at war, won, and took the weapons from him. Lili, probably thought she made a grave mistake, left, and was assassinated. Im sure Joyboy intrusted the ancient weapons with his allies before he went to war, but unfortunately Uranus was found. Imu took the opportunity to flood the world when they killed Joyboy, to cover the truth. Honestly, Lili might have been killed after that. I forgot she spread the ponegliphs

[@XBoxwolf]

Totally agree with you.

[@kaligaliga]

I would have the same thought as you if someone like Xebec or Blackbeard who also seem to be candidates for the will of D inheritors didn't existed.

[@BarberingWitObadiah]

i love your content and i enjoy the videos you put out but who tf is your barber dawg?

[@BarberingWitObadiah]

lol if 1023 is old old then the early chapters of one piece must be ancient

[@mattbrown9631]

Anyone else remember when Bege got like sucked up into the sky into some random, strange thing a long time ago? Was that our first look at Uranus?

[@a.williams8051]

Below are some points I came up with after watching this video and a previous one: - If we consider that awakened zoan devil fruit users exhibit features of a modeled being, it’s highly possible the Sun God Nika☀️ was in fact a Lunarian. Take Luffy for instance. In his Gear 5 form, his hair and eyes transform to white and red respectively. Similar to King. - Also, to piggy-back on what you said about Imu controlling Uranus because he is a Lunarian, another possible reason he wiped out his race was to prevent another reincarnation of Sun God Nika, Joyboy or just an unbeatable warrior. - But going back to Gear 5 Luffy, I actually don’t think that’s the final Gear of his devil fruit or his ‘peak’. I genuinely believe Luffy will unleash a Gear 6 where he can command the ancient weapons/the robot. However, this will be at the cost of his personality❗where Sun God Nika will possess Luffy’s body‼️ I remember some character saying this about awakened devil fruits ( can’t remember who; maybe Kaido). But remember during Gear 5 Luffy vs. Kaido, Luffy still had control of his body and actions/wasn't possessed by Nika. AND IF THAT’S Case, it's likely that the war during the Void Century was between the 20 kingdoms and Sun God Nika ☀️, and not Joyboy. Hence why the 5 Elders, have been hunting down the fruit. They have some beef with Nika.

[@a.williams8051]

PS. The trigger for these ancient weapons could be something related to the Will of D or Sun God Nika and his drums of liberations/heartbeat (considering Zunesha was the only being who heard Luffy’s heartbeat)

[@a.williams8051]

Also, I’m finally caught up on one piece and currently reading and listening to a bunch of lore, I came across your channel and I am loving your videos 🤗

[@pedroleon7761]

Do you think that the ancient kingdom is mirroring the U.S and its weapons of mass destruction (nukes). Perhaps the war of 800 years ago was sort of like the U.S vs. Japan during ww2 where they reluctantly used the ancient weapons in order to save more lives in the end. Of course such weapons were too op, so joyboy could have given the weapons to his ally’s but the actual call to use them were his

[@adamtwillie910]

Anyone figure Joyboy wanted to save the ancient weapons because they were his crewmates? Joyboy was reincarnated. Poseidon is a mermaid princess that was reincarnated from 800 years ago. Momonosuke as 800-year-old-Toki's first born inherited Pluton. And Imu is just as immortal as Uranos, King of the Titans. Also, just maybe, Luffy is one of Joyboy's D.-sendants

[@ltmxgames4551]

I feel like with everything that happened this chapter, a lot of people overlooked Momonosukes reaction and was about to say something important as well but Kinemon hurried up and hushed him.

[@wasinr]

Tech: Island-destroying laser beams from the sky Person: Imu Beast: Giant robot in Egghead Conclusion: Uranus is on top of Marygeos. That's why the Giant Robot went up there inexplicably all those years ago. Probably Imu was trying to use the weapon and activated it.

[@FilthyCasualYT]

If you're right about the Ancient Weapons each being comprised of 3 parts, then here's a thought nugget to chew on. The creature(s) Imu controls isn't a dragon, it's the 5 Elders. Remember, they weren't introduced as users of Devil Fruits, they were introduced as the creature they had taken the forms of. They take orders from Imu just like Zunesha takes orders from Momo or the Sea Kings and Shirahoshi.

[@manumudgal5776]

I will not stop until all my enemies are destroyed - Joyboy, probably

[@redy6068]

Ohara is got to be fhe biggest one piece theorist, he bassicaly found thd one piece at this point, EVERYTHING JS FORESHADOWING FOR HIM

[@aaronvarnes3125]

Ever since the mother flame was shown I wondered if there was a connection with the lunarian flames. Going off your theory, what if they were given uranus as their flames powered it. This in turn is why they were wiped out and then the weapon was never used until the mother flame was completed.

[@xeykdeyk]

do you time your uploads with Library of Ohara?

[@Irishleo30]

Nah JoyBoy had the Ancient Weapons given to him by the Lunarians to try and keep them from Imu and the 20 kingdoms who were hell bent on destroying the Lunarians he was betrayed and Imu used the Ancient Weapons to kill JoyBoy and destroy the Lunarian country and the rest of the world so that the 20 Kings wouldn't try to betray Imu.

[@RustyIndustrial-zl9jk]

Is like what MatPat said: "the hero HAS to be the villain"

[@Nightsu]

A theory is that you need the body of Uranus to control the weapon, however using that power drains the life force of the user. The body may now be immortal from the operation but it doesn't give it perennial youth thus vulnerable to decay. (Hence why Imu may cover themselves) Imu has used the power many times and can't anymore so now relies on the Motherflame, an external power source.

[@HhhHhhhy-rx1zb]

I love your video’s

[@tko_hazard2189]

By your theory, if joyboy was able to use Uranus, that makes joyboy a lunarian too. But what if instead of lunarians, that anyone who has inherited the Will of D can use Uranus. Making Imu a D, and also leaves the option for the weapon to be used by other D members such as Blackbeard or luffy

[@tko_hazard2189]

Adding to the theory, this could be a reason as to why anyone carrying the D in their name is considered a threat as they are the only other options to oppose Imu in controlling the ancient weapon

[@bm3975]

Maybe there was obito/rin/kakashi scenario where Lily died and Imu blamed Joy Boy. Sadness could then explain many things like flooding the world,betraying joy boy for revenge(if they were crew mates). And if it was great love that made Imu keep that painting it must have most important thing to him.

[@quentindiaz9418]

I'm thinking, that Joyboy was painted as the villain when he was the hero. Which was probably the original idea everyone had anyway. But he took those ancient weapons from the government, and used them while fighting them but in due time realizes what he done was the wrong way. He hides them, along with the texts that mentions the void century etc and hopes that the future someone finds them to fight back at the government correctly? But what is the thing that the Rodger pirates were laughing at is still up in the air?

[@RajaVardhanReddy-ld8ec]

What if Dragon has the final road poneglyph? He probably has a hidden flame tattoo and he can also create whirlpools. Also, I don't think Imu is the person who controls Uranus but probably a Lunarian slave? That could be why the celestial dragons hunt them so there won't be anyone trying to take control of it.

[@sl3793]

I don't know why the weapons was in Joyboy BUT the grand cleaning was saying by the elders

[@RomanioMovies]

Another theory on top of yours: Imu is Lili. Lili can use Uran, that's how Uran was used on Lulusia. Vivi inherited this ability, that's why Imu (Lili) wants Vivi dead. A nice way to bring Vivi back to the story, because right now she looks pretty weak for Mugiwaras

[@neo9803]

Im is a man though

[@moizlikescat]

@@neo9803 what if that one personality swap thing with Law's fruit was used on Im and Lili

[@cartoonishidealism582]

Unlikely. The entirety of chapter 1085 is based around Imu trying to force Cobra to reveal the name that Nefertari Lili signed on the letter she wrote. Cobra reveals that it was signed “Nefertari D. Lili”, which provokes a reaction from Imu. It makes no sense for Imu to be Lili in that chapter. Why would Lili demand to know what SHE HERSELF signed on a letter that SHE HERSELF wrote? Why would she react to the idea that she was a D-Clan member, when she literally signed her name as Nefertari D Lili?

[@dphs2918]

The theory that the Final Poneglyph on Vira makes more sense now since the Revolutionary army took over it by overthrowing the previous rulers and Sabo a revolutionary army, who is also marked by flames (The flame scar on his left eye) and he has the Mera Mera No Mi (the fire fire fruit)

[@fabaxno3308]

When imu has it, than why wouldn‘t he use it to destroy an erase? The more he destorys the more the see rises. Joyboy wanted to pass them down, but that dosent mean he had them, right?

[@BloxFruitsMaster29]

Good vid😂

[@Onepiecefan95]

A theory that i personaly think is right might be that.(Imu Nerona durning the Voit century used the Peronality Transplatiation surgery trough some unknown means to switch bodies with Lilly and the reason why he did it was due to the Nefeltaris refusing to become Celestial dragons and perfering to stay in Alabasta)."He then forced the same user who made him switch bodies with Lilly perform the Perennial youth Surgery on him trough torture or something witch is why now over 200 chapters after his reveal we still dont know Imus real face since he Looks like Lilly".

[@hashimhalstead]

PLUS the pre-time skip dragons that the Strawhats met when they were RIGHT OUTSIDE the red line where we learned Luffy has the voice of all things 🤯🤯🤯 I always knew that arc was important!

[@johnburgos9208]

Roger last words with word play i left everything at the bottom, it would become more plausible as the oceans rose by around 200m

[@mr.kevblack3481]

Crazy theory but what if joy boy accidentally caused the flooding of the world. he thought that using the ancient weapons all at once would’ve stopped the war but while using the weapons something went wrong and backfired causing everything to flood. That something would be would have the iron giant supposed to operate one of the weapon but he betrayed joy boy but it was already to late and since JB was the leader or face of his group they blamed him and the giant straw hat is actually a saki bowl that’s used as a hat and Rodger laughed because they left it with shanks. Whenever you discuss business in some Asian communities it’s customary to drink saki

[@Impossiblah]

It seems like Uranus was the only ancient weapon Joy Boy *didn't* control at the end of the war, so I don't think he caused the flooding. His intention to pass on all the Ancient Weapons could mean that he intended to take Uranus from whoever had it, and he had a good, not bad use for it in mind, but possibly the 20 Kings feared that he had bad intentions for it.

[@rodgerclery1278]

Love the videos going up when the chapter releases 💛

[@sherazade82]

It could also be that Joy Boy lost Uranus at the end of the void century and Imu used it to end the war at that time and thus also causing the flood.

[@michaelomahony1225]

You need to do a what if, with which character you would want or be the best mum or dad to grow up under. In the one piece universe! Like how Gamp, how he trained Luffy and Ace so they could be strong etc.

[@abhinavnarayan9357]

If Joyboy is the one who used these weapons to create flood,then that means he must've surrendered himself to imu. The war of 20 kingdoms was just a tale that was used to describe his power, whereas in reality, he never wanted a war himself. He made an agreement with imu, which he agreed to do so. The agreement was that joyboy would himself use the ancient weapons to increase the water levels, and imu would let him go. But he didn't know that imu was just as evil as he was. That's why joyboy apologizes for his behaviour. And the iron giant was just sorry because he failed to perform his duty to stop joyboy from such bad forces. Joyboy felt betrayed, and hence said to imu that the war will still go on after this void century, and that someone will turn the world upside down.

[@valrune7055]

I just think that Joyboy is a person who loves freedom. He's just sailing around the world, gathering allies and spreading his ideology. But in the WG's perspective, having too much freedom can lead to chaos. You can follow Joyboy's path of freedom, but you can also agree that WG does have a point. I think that's why Vegapunk can't be certain about who's right or wrong.

[@juiceleebeenkickingish7822]

God Valley Showed Me Just How Evil the World Government Is… Killing people for sport isn’t anywhere in luffys makeup… The way they did killed kumas dad in front of him and how they prayed and waited and went through hell to be saved…

[@Dracose]

How i learned about the youngerdryas was by doing a dive into the story of atlantis, the younger dryas actually shows evidence it actually existed

[@MoveThatGeaRUp]

I like the idea that only a Lunarian is able to operate Uranus. Why would Oda introduce such a special race near the end of the story? King is looking for Joy Boy too and he would totally ally with Luffy. If Lunarians were friends with Joy Boy, such as the fishmen or giants, it makes sense that he hid Uranus at the top of the red line. The only weak spot in this theory is that Imu was one king of the 20 kingdoms who fought Joy Boy, so that would make Lunarians not allies but foes to Joy Boy. And then why would he hide it there? Assuming Uranus is the national treasure of Marijoa, how would have the Immortality Surgery allowed Doflamingo to make use of this treasure?

[@New3DSLuigi364]

I Think Imu had the Ope-Ope no Mi used to make them immortal and/or have them switch bodies with Lili

[@joea951]

Maybe it was a dressrosa King situation where he wasn’t in control and did some horrible things and that gave everyone a reason to go against him

[@Alex-sm6pv]

Damn IMPRESSIVE that you are aware of Graham Hancocks work about The Younger Dryas period, just Gobekhli Teppe alone destroys all modern history that we are being taught based on civilisations before us. I was thinking all along, how Oda knows about this and implements it into his own story in One Piece, AMAZING!

[@danielcampbell2411]

You didn't even mention that the man marked by flames is tied to the last poneglyph. Im guessing he sails with it

[@PG-hy2lf]

What if the old kingdom joy boy was from ruled through terror due to their advanced technology and devil fruits. The other kingdoms joined together to fight back and the only way to win against devil fruit users was to flood the world or that kingdom. Kind of similar dynamic to AOT.

[@khantminthant2561]

Awesome! !

[@marcokuhner2445]

15:25 and remember the gigantic egg Roger had aboard his ship? What if it was a dragon egg??

[@kshitijdhapse3244]

I am pretty sure now that the ancient kingdom is a huge asteroid size spaceship that landed on earth to then increase the waterlevels tremendously...well just think about oda drawing the 200 times the weapon uranus being used is just not as impressive as compared to it being an highly advanced alien civilization that just landed on earth.

[@sethreyes8988]

Can someone please do a video talking about the fact that, yes, we got Imu looking at Lili's picture in this chapter, but right after that we got a bunch of panels in Alabasta and with Vivi's wanted poster. Someone please say something about Alabasta!

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Shirahoshi, Momonosuke, and Aisa are all kids of similar age that have inexplicably high levels of observation haki. So I would imagine that if the first two are part of the ancient weapons then so is the easily forgotten Skypeian girl.

[@sentientmicrowave259]

Oda gonna be tearing uranus apart with joy, boy.

[@MattDkaje]

Franky also had destroyed plans for pluton which were for a ship.

[@kaifdafro]

The story of the void century is about the summerians

[@user-qs9jl9ol3f]

Yuh straight heat

[@nickklosek1005]

It looked to me like Rayleigh might’ve died or Atleast is in bad health. And I think the reason they didn’t do anything is for two reasons. The first being Rodger was sick and dying, and the second that Joyboy knew when the devil fruit would re awaken and when Poseidon would be born. Which was going to be after their prime. That’s why Oden wanted to prepare for their arrival

[@pengdoinguica560]

Thats why people say that Ryuma is strong, probably because he killed the old dragon that used to carry uranus, we never even saw how ryuma looks like but he will probably appear in a flashback of him cutting the dragons head

[@kingnate101]

In 10 years will have a joy boy show

[@SinkrSwim]

I'd still like to think that the egg on Rogers ship during Edd War is the dragon that helps control Uranus, maybe Cesar Clown was trying to clone that but Buckingham Stussy was the cloning expert.

[@anime_enjoyer5507]

i sometimes pity those who only watches the anime and theorizes it the same as us, they wouldnt know about how important the moon is because as far as i know it doesnt even mention in any way or form in the anime.. the only thing that mentions moon is minks with their characteristics, and the symbols of different clans, they didnt know about the civilization in the moon or even the important things up there.. if in fact the moon is much more important than we thought it would be, the animators would really regret not animating enel's cover story