It's A Crime Not To Count This As Anime

[@Necroskull388]

I love how Joey was too polite to interrupt Gnart and Connor was just like, “…wait, James Cameron?” I kinda wish he didn’t interrupt when he did and just let him embarrass himself further, woulda been even funnier.

[@Gottaloveaxolotls]

True. Also, your way of spelling Gnart made me think of gnats XD

[@SMA2343]

The Scott pilgrim controversy is basically “Scott is dating a high schooler” in the comic every clowns in him for doing it. Saying that he’s too old for her. And he is. The whole point is that Scott is an unreliable and untrustworthy narrator. He’s a horrible person.

[@captainbryan9233]

It's almost like he's one of those "flawed" characters that people claim to want so much.

[@ShotterGames]

@@captainbryan9233 People want flawed characters that have flaws that they like, character being a mass murderer is ok, but if they are a pervert no good writing can save it apparently.

[@graffitisamurai]

I don't like the reductive nature of "Scott is a horrible person". The whole point of the series is that people aren't wholly "good" or "bad". Scott's whole character arc centers around him realizing just because he's beating up "evil exes" doesn't excuse his own shitty behavior.

[@SirFooplesTheThird]

​@@graffitisamuraiTHANK YOU! Scott learns that he's a lazy bum and needs to change in order to make something of his life, not just to get with Ramona because what we learn throughout the comics is that Ramona is just as much a bum. Hell the both of them sat around all day playing video games/watch X-Files like a bunch of dummies

[@yuvalgabay1023]

​@@graffitisamuraiexcept Wallace..he is whit out flaws a perfect human being

[@Bala_Niranna]

things i cannot wrap my head around: connor not realizing scott pilgrim was dating a 17 year old when thats the first line of the movie and one of the first scenes is him picking her up from high school. garnt thinking they were talking about the blue people when joey said the last airbender, Shyamalan, live action, animation

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

it's in the movie and comic scott's an asshole of a person.

[@jamesdowman2023]

​@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265tbf the whole point of scott in any adaptation is that he's both an ass and in a bit of a dark place, so throughout we see his character grow and become a somewhat decent person near the end.

[@pedroescalona3842]

Something to note about Scott Pilgrim: Takes off, is that they not only brought the entire cast of the movie, but also the OG cast of the Spanish dub, which is amazing, even the voice actress of Knives in español, which I think she was semi-retire.

[@R3TR0J4N]

man Edgar literally casted a cast for a family, w/ how bonded they were

[@pedroescalona3842]

@@R3TR0J4N Oh yeah, Scott Pilgrim is special to a lot of People across borders.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Can’t wait for “Dandadan is what Chainsaw Man should’ve been” comments.

[@shido-Kawaii]

Yooooooo

[@mdraj5655]

I recently caught up with dandadan all the way up to chapter 131 and I must admit it's pretty damn good. I'll give it a solid 8/10 but IMHO it wasn't better than chainsaw man. Both have there ups and downs, Both storyline goes absolutely crazy but chainsaw man had more memorable characters

[@Ash_Wen-li]

@@mdraj5655 The people that say that are just talking about the animation. Not the actual story

[@mdraj5655]

@@Ash_Wen-li Yea I know people also complain about chainsaw man S1 because of the cinematic approach from the director... Many animators didn't get to see there family for this project to make it detailed as possible. And there are people who complain because it was too detailed and didn't match there vibe of the manga. It's a sad world we live in mate

[@yuvalgabay1023]

​@@mdraj5655i must agree. There isn't very much of a plot/stroy /characters in dandandan..but the art is fucking insane

[@mattbaltimore7195]

Gnart confusing ATLA and the James Cameron movies is so out of nowhere that is so funny..... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheProswagonist]

"On Twitter, I keep seeing this thing about him [Scott] dating a 17-year-old. I don't remember that." Bro the movie literally OPENS up with the line "Scott Pilgrim was dating a high schooler." This is just more evidence of Conor's monkey brain not paying attention to the story. 😂

[@johndinner4418]

Well, it's been over a decade, I think that's fair. I think the sentiment comes more from the fact that "I don't remember people making a huge deal out of anything back then", and the reason that is, is because it's clearly on purpose that she's 17. It's not like he's dating a 17 year old and the movie thought it was okay and everyone encouraged it, which is what I imagine is what he's trying to remember. Basically, what he means is that he would remember if Knives was 17 and kissing Scott and no one acted like it was weird, but he doesn't remember that (because that doesn't actually happen).

[@ben-san9677]

Twitter: "As you all know, Scott Pilgrim is dating a 17-year-old." Connor, channeling his inner Knives Chau: "We didn't all know!"

[@heckdeck]

Hearing them all just gush about Urasawa always brings joy to my heart. His talent, not just for writing but for visual storytelling is unparalleled.

[@spitperson69]

The trick with the Scott pilgrim anime is that it’s basically a sequel to the movie. The movie is required watching even more than the books are required reading. But as a big fan of the movie, I think they nailed it

[@alvinchrome8188]

Everytime garnt says the word "really", he pronounces it "vreally".

[@luigiboi4244]

Scott Pilgrim Takes Off is a great series. In fact, it should best be viewed as a “New Game +” in terms of how it interacts with the graphic novels and the movie. Also the cameos are great. I barely noticed Nick Frost and Simon Pegg!

[@cartoonhistory353]

I agree with the new game plus it’s literally a loop

[@soulofexistence]

I just wish they marketed it like that

[@merlin5662]

they have weird al in there i believe

[@nickl2854]

the surprise made it so much better@@soulofexistence

[@isthisajojoreference]

Garnt needs to turn in his weeb card after that Avatar mixup

[@mamahiyojiespizzeria3093]

I think Connor was thinking about Del Toro’s version of Pinocchio, when he says they went to some crazy places. Because the Disney version is just beat for beat the same movie, but evens more kid friendly.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Pluto is not talked about enough. I guess that's the Netflix release model for you. If they released it weekly it would have at least been relevant for two months

[@Sparda51]

Cyberpunk edge runners was talked about for a long time. I think Pluto might just not appeal that much to alot of people. Not that many people seem to have talked about it even when it came out.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

​@@Sparda51Pluto has always been a cult classic. But you can't really compare it to a massive Western video game franchise that people will watch because they've heard of or played the game. Like the game had Keanu Reeves promoting it.

[@Sparda51]

@@Ash_Wen-li barely anyone talks about Pluto even before it came out on Netflix. I never heard of it until then. Not saying it’s bad and is pretty good from what I saw on netflix(haven’t finished yet). You 100% can compare especially when cyberpunk was a shit game on release, most people write it off when a game comes out so poorly, it was the anime and CDproject red capitalizing on the popularity it gave the franchise to become what it is right now.

[@IWantToStayAtYourHouse]

Stop blaming it on Netflix. One piece live action, Arcane, Cyberounk Edgerunners were also released on netflix and they were talked about everywhere. Pluto is just not talked about because there was not much marketing for it. I didnt even know it was released until Trash taste talked about it

[@shyguy5473]

​@@IWantToStayAtYourHouseNetflix actually has an interview with the author of Pluto. In fact they promoted it more than any other anime on their platform.

[@tman1669]

The fact that Garnt of all people doesn't get it. Scott Pilgrim takes off... He took OFF. The subtitle said exactly what happens on the "f*cking tin". And it's hilarious.

[@cragl3yman343]

Garnt needs to give the Series a GOOD watch. You cant understand the whole series without watching it all

[@Shaflugi]

Yea, once you get into the final act of the series, everything makes a lot more sense.

[@cartoonhistory353]

@@Shaflugiyes I agree

[@maskedgamerjoker6148]

He should also try read the comics or watch the movie to understand the hype and the divide a bit better

[@XanderVJ]

3:30 Well, that's the thing. It was NOT an all Japanese team. The Animation Director was Abel Góngora, who is from freaking Spain, of all places. Albeit he's been working in Japan, for Japanese studios, working alongside Japanese people, for over a decade at this point.

[@elmatador2139]

You had me in the first half

[@alfredovitenteiii3612]

There are a lot of foreigners working in anime studios.

[@jeremiahbennett3004]

And? One piece recently had an episode directed by a foreigner, is that episode not anime?

[@XanderVJ]

@@jeremiahbennett3004 If we're going to stick to that "an anime needs to be made by an all Japanese team"... Just to be clear, I don't agree with that. But a lot of people still stick to that narrow definition. Garnt seemed to have used it in order to appease those fans, but it just isn't true. To add insult to injury, this time is not a regular animation or a one-off director. He directed the entire season.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

@@XanderVJ facts

[@Jesus_Zendejas]

Oh gawd Garnt's misconception was so fucken hilarious.

[@Itsbmw06]

7:05 the movie is more accurate to the comics, its just that there’s a lot missing because they can’t put 6 volumes into one movie and that the books weren’t finished when the movie came out

[@Hoolny]

they simply should say if its in more than 80% of the anime pirated sites then its anime

[@the_otaku_chronicles8330]

Scott pilgrim is so good , the reason people are moaning is cos it’s basically a re-imagined version of the original story …. And people wanted a completely animated version of the full original story Oh and Knives is 17 and Scott is 22 in the og story ….

[@yuvalgabay1023]

The /2 +7 says its to far

[@jazzy4830]

I think people complaining about the show didn't read the graphic novels, they diverged significantly from the movie and did a lot more character exploration like the show. Adaptations which do the exact same thing as the source will always suffer and I think this is the better choice, albeit less accessible for movie-only fans. There are already fan projects which attempt to just shot-for-shot remake the original comics anyway.

[@bernieburton6520]

The movie isn't even that great. 6/10. The original graphic novel is an easy 9/10. The problem with the film is it's WAY too short to give Scott and Ramona the full extent of the character development they got in the graphic novel. Scott and Romana have to learn to grow up. That's the point of the story. And pretty much all of the crazy video game stuff is all in Scott's head. There's lot of stuff at the end where Scott is forced to look at the real world and his real actions and screw ups.

[@DaBak21]

@@bernieburton6520 i feel like the movie is only below an 8 if you read the comics first (which i did), definitely one of those things you got to review completely separate to the source material

[@animoments8969]

whats the problem with the age when 17 year olds can look like 20 year olds.?

[@Mikura39]

FYI Connor, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 is the only good Marvel movie this year. And you got Pinocchio wrong! You’re talking about the one on Netflix by Guillermo del Toro and that was animated! Disney’s live action was shit! I’m not a really a huge fan of some of Disney’s recent films but I personally love Elemental. Though I knew I was going to love it since the trailer gave me romantic comedy-vibes. (Main plot is about immigrants though)

[@cherriegetison6093]

I only had time to watch 1½ episodes of Scott Pilgrim Takes Off with my partner before Thanksgiving travels. I love the movie, and stopping around that point is terrible. Because at that point in the story, you're left with the impression that the writing team was made of people who wanted to let you know that Scott wasn't a good person and that Ramona was better off without him. But I'm glad I continued the series, because I ended up loving it!

[@Jepze158]

-Scott wasn't a good person That is the point of the comic. Rest of the cast aren't good people either.

[@cherriegetison6093]

@@Jepze158 Oh! I meant that at that point, Scott Pilgrim Takes Off gives the impression that Scott is irredeemable. Given that he's presumed dead at that point, and at that point, it's more or less celebrated. If you leave off there, you aren't getting the reveal that he's actually alive and off becoming a better person in a different way.

[@bakersonwolf]

The greatest thing about the Scott Pilgrim series is the video game can have different endings depending on which characters you play the movie has a different ending than the comic book series and the anime has a completely different story to tell it's the Scott Pilgrim multi verse and you can experience the same story in various ways and it's fun

[@KillerTacos54]

Scott Pilgrim LITERALLY IS an anime, why would anyone think it's not?

[@spark9189]

because it's a western property produced by a western company and directed by westerners. i'm not saying it isn't anime, i'm just saying why some people wouldn't consider it anime. edit: correction, it was not directed by westerners. the director was japanese, the executive producers were mostly westerners.

[@mooseboose656]

Anime just means animation. Technically Pixar is anime this is such a dumb argument

[@gogy8602]

@@mooseboose656 it's supposed to be coordinated by Japanese studios ig

[@64thKomapatient]

​@@mooseboose656 You wouldn't call a comic manga would you? Anime is the term for japanese animation specifically.

[@modvavet]

​@@64thKomapatient in Japan, yeah, manga just means comics and anime just means anything animated. We do tend to use those terms differently outside of Japan, but inside of Japan, King of the Hill is absolutely considered anime. People are never going to stop fighting about it, but it's honestly just fine either way.

[@paocut9018]

Tell you the truth, I read the comic and watched scott pilgrim takes off, but I never watched the movie yet. I loved the anime because it was just so good in complementing everything that the comic couldn't expand on and even though scott does lose a lot of screen time, the movie and the comic were already about him, so I don't think it's bad to make a new adaptation where others have the spot light. To me, scott pilgrim takes off isn't a must watch if you watched or read any of the other two, but it's really damn good and adds so much to them.

[@fhsd1998]

How to become a successful mangaka: Become Tatsuki Fujimoto's assistant

[@shyguypro9876]

I really liked Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, but that's as a long time fan of the original graphic novel. It's very much aimed at fans of the graphic novel and movie. I can't imagine it being your first exposure to Scott Pilgirm.

[@DaBak21]

i thought the exact same but weirdly enough ik alot of people new to scott pilgrim that were able to enjoy it

[@badpiggy4177]

I never watched the movie or read the comics and I still loved it tbh lol Ended up reading the comics after watching it

[@Crispeaks]

Did pretty damn well for my first exposure. Gave me the push I needed to read the comics now

[@internetgoat4831]

I think the best way for Garnt to Enjoy Scott Pilgrim Takes Off is to tell him to imagine that it is Evangelion but ReBuild.

[@olslimy6428]

The thing with Live Action adaptations of animes/cartoons is that it's meant to strike *two* markets at the same time - the OG following of the original series it's adapting *and* the more mainstream market of people who hadn't watched the original or are "put off" by anime/cartoon (yes, that's a thing). With the One Piece Live Action relative success, it somewhat "revived" the desire by companies that hold the IP of animes/cartoons to try (or retry) adapting them into Live Action. So yeah, while they may put off fans of the original it might simply appeal to other markets (for better or worse). Not saying they couldn't be terrible though (looking at the Witcher's whole novel > game > live action adaptation sequence).

[@vikhilsingh2929]

That Avatar moment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thomasffrench3639]

Apparently the reason why there isn’t as much Urasawa wasn’t happy with his other adaptation Monster. He liked the adaptation of Master Keaton tho.

[@shyguy5473]

What ? Where did he say that ?

[@ShadowMasterT]

I was under the impression that he did like that adaptation, and is part of the reason he trusted the head of the studio (One of the founders of MadHouse, the studio that adapted Monster) with Pluto. But I never looked into that, so I can’t confirm, it is merely an assumption. The only thing I heard about Urasawa in that regard is that he’s very picky about who adapts his mangas and how, so most deals just fall off.

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@shyguy5473 i have heard it a few times, but haven’t been able to confirm anything. I more wanted to start a conversation to find if it was true

[@delix787]

8:14 I was like did anyone catch that? 😂

[@midnight4956]

The anime has a side plot, where the movie is actually just a movie in that universe, which I found super cool!

[@som-is-jod]

I wonder how a manga like Spy x Family emerged from one Fujimoto's assisstents.

[@Ninj4Fox2020]

Yeah scott pilgrim takes off is that show that you're not sure you like it at first, but quickly grows on you as you watch more of it.

[@davissmith2667]

Pluto was the first time I found I show I just could not stop watching in a long time. Highly recommend

[@shyguy5473]

For me I could only watch one episode at a time. There were a lot of things going on in each episode.

[@Orson_Welp]

"I'm really happy to see original stories finding success lately" Oppenheimer is based on a biography of the titular scientist, called "American Prometheus" Barbie is based on one of the most financially viable IP in modern memory Pluto is an elseworlds story based on Astroboy Dude didn't name a single original property; he's just happy that Marvel/Disney is taking L's 😂 And 2 of Disney's worst recent films (Wish and Elemental) ARE, as far as I'm aware, wholly original IP, so I'm not sure what the point of this conversation is...

[@mateuszmierzejewski1355]

well it is a happy thing when disney marvel are taking Ls

[@killa4sho313]

anime mean animation that was made in japan To expand on this loan words often mean different things than they did in their native language than in the host language. "Anime" is strange because it's a loan word from English to Japanese, that got shortened and then re-borrowed back to English from Japanese, each time it changed meaning slightly animation -> cartoon -> Japanese cartoons. The ordinary English usage of the term 'anime' is limited by reference to Japan. Try this thought experiment. If I created a discussion entitled 'The Simpsons v Futurama' at one of the major anime subreddits, the mods would likely not allow it, and you yourself would likely be taken aback if you came across such a discussion. Your immediate thought would surely be 'those are not anime'. This intuition is itself evidence about the meaning of the word 'anime'. The fact is, everyone knows that when someone says 'anime' in English (and other languages which have adapted the word?), 999 times out of 1000, they mean 'Japanese animation'. for the same reason that イメージ (imēji) means a mental impression, even though "image" refers to any kind of representation; or that キャンペーン (kyanpēn) means "sales campaign" even though "campaign" refers to any series of organized goal-oriented activities. Japanese borrowings (gairaigo) from English and other languages exhibit this same phenonemon people seem to be objecting to in English borrowings from Japanese. When words are borrowed into another language, it's expected and natural that the meaning will not be borrowed exactly. Even within a single language words take on new meanings all the time. In English, anime does mean Japanese animation now. It's not technically incorrect to use it that way, any more than it's technically incorrect to use "hamburger" for meat not imported from Hamburg. In linguistics this is called semantic change, and it can consist of semantic shift (changing the meaning to something new), semantic broadening (extending the word to more meanings including the original one), or semantic narrowing (resticting the meaning to a subset of the original meaning), as happened with anime and manga. However Scott Pilgrim is an anime, and myanimelist is dumb for not putting on website.

[@cragl3yman343]

Connor do not get the Pinocchio movies mixed up! There were 3 Pinocchio movies in 2022. An animated one (dogshit), a Disney one (Dogshit) and a NETFLIX one that's the good one.

[@shadoeboi212]

isnt the netflix one Guillermo del Toro?

[@cragl3yman343]

@@shadoeboi212 YES thank you Couldn't remember the director. That's correct

[@yuvalgabay1023]

​@@cragl3yman343the man release bombs after bombs so he could release weird fish porn . He is like tarantino whit feet and saying the n word

[@MLGCOD07]

Had a visceral reaction when he said that then I forgot Guillermo del toro made one lol

[@shyguy5473]

That was my favourite movie of 2022.

[@Mixedbag456]

I'm gonna have to be that guy for a second...Read the Scott Pilgrim comics. I adore the movie and all, but the comics were a more emotional experience. At the moment, I really liked Takes Off. It's not necessarily as hard hitting as the comics, but much more than the movie. Especially if you're already a fan, it's worth a watch.

[@cartoonhistory353]

It’s not supposed be as hard hitting because book scoot kidnapped tv scoot lol

[@jacobmonks3722]

​@cartoonhistory353 The writer said the Comic, Movie, and Anime are all different universes. So Old Scott is just a possible scenario after he defeats the Exes, but not necessarily the same Scott from the comic/movie.

[@lukeshioshio]

They animated to the English vocal takes, which Science Saru hadn't done before, so the lip flaps should be pretty accurate.

[@yournerdgasm]

I really liked Scott Pilgrim Takes Off. I can understand why it might not work for everyone, but I really like the different perspective you get of the story, and the characters. No spoilers, but I love the reveal in this story and what that means in conjunction to both the comic and/or the movie.

[@matthew_natividad]

Considering the movie was way more condensed

[@yournerdgasm]

@@matthew_natividad I've never read the comic, but I've heard how dense it is story & lore wise

[@matthew_natividad]

@@yournerdgasm it is it takes place over the span of a few years vs like a week or two in the movies

[@yournerdgasm]

@@matthew_natividad I had no idea; that's interesting. Thanks for letting me know that

[@CobraTrouser]

Oh thank god most in the comments actually have common sense about Scott Pilgrim. It was definitely aimed more toward fans of the comic than the movie and there's nothing wrong with that, such a stupid controversy. Also insane Garnt thinking the anime isn't "wild" enough like the movie just proves how much he really needs to finish it!

[@KBthemediaG]

Probably one of my favourite adaptations this year fr Scott Pilgrim was dope

[@dhanushs.s2093]

15:24 my entire experience of reading monster summed up in a line.....💀💀

[@flexforthetube]

I have never agreed with them on an anime take so hard as with Scott Pilgrim Takes Off. I can't figure out if I like it or not because I appreciate what it's trying to do, but would rather prefer something closer to the source material (graphic Novel, movie, or even the game at the very least).

[@toasttitan3253]

That’s my takeaway too I like what Takes Off is doing but I still much prefer the story of the graphic novel so at the end of the day that’s the one I’ll go back to the most

[@thomasffrench3639]

I feel like what defines an anime is if it is from the anime industry. I saw a person from MAL say that you need to grow up in Japan in order for something to be anime. Because apparently you need to grow up in Japan to get the exact correct vibe people want for anime. And that is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. It’s like people think the reason why people like anime is only because of the Japaneseness of it. Also I know you don’t like comics, but you should read Scott Pilgrim.

[@SoundsOfTheWild3]

Its because "anime" is the Japanese word for "cartoon" that a bunch of weebs in the 90s started using instead of "Japanese animation" or "Japanimation" because they thought it sounded cool similar to how some hipsters will refer to movies with the German word "Kino". MAL has strict rules on outsourcing and joint productions. Which I can understand given that a lot of American studios have outsourced some of the animation to Japanese studios on shows like Gargoyles, & X-men, but I wouldn't call those Anime either. MAL might change its mind later.

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@SoundsOfTheWild3 there’s a difference between outsourcing and main production. The main production of Scott Pilgrim is in the anime industry. They aren’t outsourcing 1 or 2 episodes.

[@ttrulyhumbleundergod]

still doesnt make sense since MAL also has a bunch of Manhwas that aren't even Japanese@@SoundsOfTheWild3

[@SoundsOfTheWild3]

@@ttrulyhumbleundergod They made a decision to accept Korean and Chinese even though they are not Japanese because no other Databases were really cataloging those titles. Its all pretty arbitrary. The DB people have guidelines as well as a forum dedicated that they will sometimes answer on why they accepted certain material to the site.

[@killa4sho313]

In English anime means animation that comes from Japan. It’s called semantic change.

[@NEOL1NK]

Spoilers, kinda, but the reason why Scott Pilgrim Takes Off goes in a different direction from the movie and comic book is because... It's secretly kind of a sequel. It's a "legacy remix," like Final Fantasy VII Remake, or the Neon Genesis Evangelion Rebuild tetralogy. I wouldn't recommend watching it without reading the comic book and watching the movie. I guess you could go in with just the movie if you absolutely have to, but the movie was being made right as Bryan Lee O'Malley was finishing the last volume, so it truncates the story and ends differently, with way less character development. So it wouldn't hit the same as if you were familiar with Scott and Ramona's development in the comics. If you're not gonna read the comics, at least look up a summary or whatever. And if you go in with just the comic book without having seen the movie, you don't appreciate the returning actors voicing the anime, or the references to the movie that they make. Still think the comic book is the better of the three, but the animation in the anime is pretty insane and it has some great moments.

[@byronwelsh3097]

Seeing Joey and Garnt hyped for DanDaDan makes me so happy needs more recognition

[@pwners4u]

The Netflix avatar show isn’t to do with the creators of the animated show as they left due to creative differences to Netflix and created the avatar studio where a number of media like movies and TV shows will be made to extend the universe

[@thenamelessprince]

Does Garnt not know that Edgar Wright is the executive producer on the Scott pilgrim show?

[@opolo704]

The Avatar misunderstanding is hilarious. Joey being so absent minded and nodding to Garnt's comment about the James Cameron storyline is so fucking funny. They're all so serious yet their minds on completely different places LOL

[@JPGameStuffs]

Yeah, they get on Scott for dating a high-schooler in the comic/manga. The movie follows the source, but had to remove stuff because of feature length time constraints. The Netflix anime follows the source up until the end of the Matthew Patel fight. From then it explores the exes and Ramona learning more about herself. It's a really good ride to the end.

[@amlannanda4023]

Avatar the last Airbender and James Cameron's Avatar are different?

[@TheLiddojunior]

They are both anime but different

[@GojosBackHand]

​@@TheLiddojuniorno they are not🤦🏾‍♀️

[@Mikura39]

⁠@@bentobox7061 James Cameron’s Avatar is not an anime, it’s completely live-action.

[@robustanybody5138]

​@@bentobox7061none of the Avatar adaptation have been anime

[@Mikura39]

@@bentobox7061 The Last Airbender.

[@yuvalgabay1023]

People where angry about the anime because its was a hole different story and was markedet as an adaptation.

[@modvavet]

Yeah, I would definitely suggest either reading the Scott Pilgrim comics or watching the movie prior to watching the anime. It's not the best one for going in totally blind, honestly. If you already have the gist of the original story then the anime will be enhanced a ton. That said, I have previously seen the movie and because of that I absolutely fucking loved the anime. They are two very different animals in the best way possible!

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

Love the scott pilgrim anime man

[@justmikoto9880]

Interestingly enough I played Xenoblade 3 and the cutscenes still had lip flaps but the in game scenes matched up to the words well albeit you could see the model mouths might’ve stretched a little too much.

[@jacobmonks3722]

They animated the lips individually for different languages in most of the important scenes.

[@SeelkadoomandJokic00]

"What I did watch which was very good, original, & anime." Proceed to talk about the anime adaptation of a Manga Remake of ASTROBOY

[@ladysquidkey]

I love Scott pilgrim Unlimited bladeworks

[@uurjitdebbbaasu7314]

Omg finally joey talked about Billy bat more ppl should read fr it’s heavily underrated for an urasawa work.

[@jeremymartin7403]

4:14 for the lip flaps they didn’t sync it to make it seem more like old school anime

[@thestupidfuncrisallstodios470]

As someone who hasn't seen the movie or any of the other adaptations of scott pilgrim before scott pilgrim takes off and i got to say i really enjoyed scott pilgrim takes off even though it was very messy but it makes me want to experience the other scott pilgrim adaptations mainly the original comic and video game ( also i don't really know how/where to watch the animated prequel adverts for the movie or really what it is i just know it exists )

[@SomeRandomJackAss]

8:06 I can't believe this is legit.

[@Necroskull388]

It is wild that Connor didn’t remember Knives being 17 in the movie, because the movie makes an even bigger deal of it than the comic OR the anime. Scott being weird and gross about his high school girlfriend is basically the entire opening 20 minutes of the movie.

[@dannyblanco8544]

I absolutely loved the anime, I liked it more than the movie I won’t lie. Still loved both but the anime was so good!!

[@blackblaze4830]

Theone thing i didnt like about this anime is the fricking blurry background when the screen focus on something the blur is so bad i cant ignore it its just frustrating to see happens

[@willpool8484]

Sorry to put a review in comments, but I been hearing so much about Urasawa recently. Ill be honest I’ve read 20th century boys and seen monster. I think Pluto is better than both. 20th century boys just felt like the same repeat plot formula and monster was so slow, plus I didn’t like the ending of monster. It’s an opinion of mine so don’t destroy me too hard

[@bigd8122]

20th Century Boys had a lot of good emotional beats and excellent setup but the story fell down, I feel.

[@willpool8484]

@@bigd8122 I do agree that there were great moments and feelings in 20th Century boys. But after getting halfway, I just wanted it to end

[@thatguysho227]

@@willpool8484 I liked the characters more in 20th century.

[@Enzo_Matrix92]

Scott was 21 and Knives was 16 turning 17.

[@kruellzer0877]

23 originally and knives was turning 18

[@shyguy5473]

Dandadan is my favourite manga and I was initially against it having an anime adaptation (I still am) but after seeing the trailer I am willing to give it a chance. The problem is the anime can not do justice to the detailed and insane art of Yukinobu Sensei but I am happy to be proven wrong. Also did anyone feel Pluto had weird visual effects. I think they weren't integrated properly. It took me out of from couple of scenes.

[@JamPierreRow]

same here. dandadan is probably going to be better in manga same way that berserk does when it gets an anime like the manga provides more which would make anime a little underwhelming tbf

[@JerryMcB3rry]

Its funny how when Joey answering Connor's question of why theyre making the Avatar live action he talks about the original creators wanting to realize the world in live action. Bro the original creators of Avatar bounced from that project like 3 years ago, and thats the chief reason i dont want to watch the live action adaptation. The other being i dont see the point, esepcially if it just follows the same plot.

[@emiliolopez2023]

On this what I consider Anime is where the source of all direction design and storyboards come from. So Scott pilgrim takes off being it was entirely produced in Japan despite there being western people on staff and it being based on a western property it is an anime. Castlevania is not anime because the production house Powerhouse animation is in the west despite them having some Japanese animators and it being a Japanese property. But most definitely the lines are very much blurred in a lot of cases. Not to mention the term anime has also become a blanket term for things that are inspired by anime. I will say this the Japanese government does keep track of what shows are produced in their country you can literally look it up. Those Productions I consider anime despite some of them farming their animation services to Korea.

[@axryankieron777]

Nah, I still think that scott pilgrim is a cartoon from adult swim, rather than an anime

[@haosmagnaingram6992]

Conner there are 4 Pinocchio remakes there’s the Deltoro stop motion which was fine, there’s the Italian 2019 one which was good and then there’s the Disney one and the other one both of which were horrendously awful.

[@titaniumtomato7247]

scott pilgrim takes off is not an anime because it disagrees with grown men dating highschoolers

[@ireallycant4416]

Blue eye samurai is missed again

[@beefydonut6977]

its crimal to consider it an anime when avatar is considered a cartoon AND it has the same style as every cartoon since steven universe

[@soulofexistence]

I really liked some things about SP: Takes Off but overall I was disappointed. I didn't like how it reduced almost all main characters in order to give more development to other ones, felt kinda incomplete

[@TheBestComicKing]

The show is AWESOME, but I think the show's even better if you watched the movie before hand or even later. Like you don't have to read the original comic series, unless you want more.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

Really interested to see if the alien ripoff character from Dan pops up in the anime

[@rynatic101]

I actually really enjoyed the anime myself. I think it adds a whole new layer to the story that you know from the film.

[@adriantuttle771]

Man I think the "Trash Taste" isn't from these guys today, it's from some of the comments down here 🤣

[@captainbryan9233]

Garnt is so emotionally attached to the movie version of Scott Pilgrim that he's disinterested in the comic/anime? Alright i guess, it's just a really bizarre take to stand by.

[@vickerfinal]

The anime is different from the comic also.

[@thomasffrench3639]

I mean I totally get being satisfied with one thing. For example I’m satisfied with Attack on Titan, and I don’t feel the need to read the manga.

[@captainbryan9233]

​@vickerfinal I know they are different. i've binged the whole show recently.

[@captainbryan9233]

@thomasffrench3639 For me, i like to see different adaptations of stories and how they differ from each other. The Scott Pilgrim anime is great because it shows an alternate take on an already solid story and gives new things to appreciate about it.

[@Fuwa_san]

So the anime is better than the movie? Would recommend anime over movie for someone who never heard of SPTO?

[@leoaerts2217]

I dont see how this is mental gymnastics. Its okay to say its not anime when your definition of the term is animation from japan. Now if your definition entails anime from japan and outside then it is an anime

[@earelevant]

i love the movie, its definitely in my top 3, but i thought the spin in the anime was a cool idea. i actually was glad that it wasn't just the same thing as the movie, and i thought they killed it considering they went off-script

[@RevolutionaryLoser]

Who's out there saying Pluto is his weakest work? I'll fight them.

[@lazy2335]

Scott pilgrim takes of is aight. But have yall watched pantheon? That's sht goes hard and the mc isn't a terrible person

[@supercyc10]

If you can get past the first 5 chapters with the probing SA aliens, you'll have a good time. Dandadan can be a tough sell at first for people, but the story cuts that shit out right away after that.

[@shyguy5473]

The art work alone sold me on Dandadan. I still wonder how every chapter comes out weekly with the great artwork.

[@lilfisherman6988]

Grant is right tho, James Camerons avatar does have great world 🙏😔

[@saxenart]

I love the anime series so much that I started watching the movie! The movie is also so good! I like the jokes more in the movie but I like Scott more in the anime series. They both have good things that I like about them, but I think that I prefer the movie a bit more. Either way, it’s my new hyperfixation💚🌱✨

[@phillipjohnson8903]

A James Avatar movie 9:04

[@ketchupbenjamin]

they fucking ruined the series with the cartoon adaptation. It was literally a completely different series, and i know they said that it would not be the same plot as the comic/movie but ALL the characters are written completely different

[@fngeunderground4508]

i dont know if you can tell but i love scott pilgrim, i love the comic, i love the movie and i love the show (i havent play the game just yet 😅)

[@GarredHATES]

There really is people who think this isn’t an anime? Like legit?!

[@pariswilliam9761]

I agree with Conner why to we need to remake avatar

[@darkotheeverything3860]

Joey will like anything other than Jujutsu kaisen

[@orppranator5230]

If Scott Pilgrim is an anime, then so is A:TLA and therefore the best anime isn't even japanese.

[@thomasffrench3639]

12:57 well he didn’t build the tension of the anime, because he didn’t direct it. I get that people like manga artists but there’s also directors.

[@zeanone9257]

This cartoon was great