It's a run-out within the laws; unfair to call it 'Mankading' - Harsha Bhogle

[@SaurabhSharma-sf5sr]

I agree. If they have problem with the rule just remove it. But how can be a cricket rule be against spirit of cricket. Why give batsman advantage of few yards.

[@mupadhyaya6091]

This is actually a very good law. No need to remove it. It's utilities far outweigh the issues, which can be easily sorted out. Otherwise every other batsmen would take the advantage of running smaller distances between the lines.

[@juliancollins8162]

It is against the spirit for a bowler to intentionally run up and mankad a batsmen, especially if they pause in their delivery stride and wait for the batsman to leave the crease

[@Mishtiman]

@@juliancollins8162 yes, that part is correct, so the best would be for the non-striker to leave the crease only after the ball is bowled. After the ball is released, there is no place for cheating for the bowler. Matter of time, before ICC sorts out these issues.

[@KARTIKEYA007]

@@juliancollins8162 If this law was not in place then absolutely nothing would stop a batsman to just start running as the bowler is running so that he doesnt have to actually complete the run... this law is absolutely fair. The bowler gets heavily disadvantaged when he crosses the line, the batsman should also get disadvantaged if he leaves his crease before the ball is bowled.

[@fazil8679]

So what if the bowler intentionally pauses his action waits for the batsman to leave his crease and run him out.... See not many batsman tends to look at then bowler's hand as the ball is delievered... So let us say that the batsman is within the crease as the bowler loads his action and he thinks the ball will be released and he moves away,but the bowler pauses his action and runs him out... I think this will be againist the spirit of the game.... Thats why in the law it is said that till u are EXPECTED TO DELIEVER in a normal fashion... But if u change that to TILL THE BALL LEAVES THE BOWLERS HAND then there will be a new wrongun which is a bowler juking his full action without releasing the ball and running out the batsman...So i agree that batsman being 2 yard short even before the bowler lands his front foot is againist the spirit... similarly a bowler trying to run a batsman by juking his delievery action and not actually delievering will not be in the spirit of the game either...

[@anirbandas673]

Credit must go to Ravi Ashwin for doing this and standing firm in his decision

[@Techguidein]

He deliberately mankaded. He stopped his action. waited till batsman go out of crease.

[@gauravpatel8379]

@@Techguidein if he stopped then why did batsman go out if crease ??? He should have stopped also.

[@balaji21121109]

Indeed. He unnecessarily became the victim/ villain , slowly becoming a hero now after people got their head in line almost after a year.

[@BharadwajSai291971]

@@Techguidein Buttler deliberately went 7times out off ashwin's bowling. Batsmen biased fool

[@toxic6085]

Would have made much more sense if he did it whenever any batman crossed the crease . RR was in a good place and Punjab was loosing . The timing of the incident has to be questioned .

[@rishabhjain1294]

Running out your partner "inzamaming" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@shayanshah4779]

Rishabh Jain 😂😂😂 That’s funny.

[@PrithviRaj20019]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@yashpadte]

"Arey Wasim bhai Aap yaha?...???"

[@shayanshah4779]

yashpadte | COD and More! 😂😂😂

[@KrishnaSingh25899]

F*ck 😂

[@punjabigundaa]

It should be normalized. Nothing controversial about it.

[@juliancollins8162]

if it is not controversial then why does Harsha have a problem with it being called mankad?

[@jaideepacharya7891]

@@@juliancollins8162 . Why Should it be called mankad ? Calling it a run out should suffice.

[@juliancollins8162]

@@jaideepacharya7891 it is not the same as a normal runout, helps with understanding it has a different name

[@swarupmahapatra1]

The non striker run out should be treated as a "dismissal" tactic from grassroot level. Bowlers should be trained for that. Baseball has something similar. Once it becomes a norm, it wont be a controvery

[@jaideepacharya8540]

@@juliancollins8162 come on!! There is nothing complicated in it to understand for it to get a different name!!

[@sarthakagarwal6338]

Batsman on the non-striker end leaving the crease before the ball is delivered is OK but if bowler runs his out for it then it's against the spirit of the game! Hypocrisy!

[@sarthakagarwal6338]

@@Badal316. Video dekha hai maine. Mai general logon ki thinking ki baat kar raha tha.

[@rajatbarwal2066]

@@sarthakagarwal6338 100%agree bro

[@utkarshakarki6015]

I've seen many batsman out of the crease but apart from Ashwin and that under 19 kid no other have done mankad

[@yahaya4961]

roll tackle grep chappell have done it too Kapil Dev

[@leos1875]

@@utkarshakarki6015 Many have done it Buttler the man two times ; Ashwin 2 times ;@ most importantly U-19 West Indies in 2016 won the Semi coz of Mankading on Final ball @ then India lost in final ! Kapil Dev as well !

[@JPSir]

My friend inzamamed me many times.

[@akshaymakwana3543]

🤣🤣🤣👌

[@thesnackbandit]

"Yes run" "NO STAY THERE" rip

[@gauravpatel8379]

Lol

[@amit21278]

In India it's a natural.

[@ratneeshpal4157]

Natural in gully cricket

[@Simple.Singh12792]

We all know that modern time cricket favours the batsman a lot.why you taking some advantage away from bowler? And over all it is in the rule of cricket. And I don't understand why always bowler asked to follow the spirit of the game,Why Batsman not,when they got caught behind and refuses to go to pevilion ,when umpire gives him not out.

[@kunalsingh3121]

By the way this is not the way to readress balance between bat and ball idiot,if u care so much for bowlers Ban t20 cricket which is heaven for Bookmakers.Thats rubbish to say Mankading give bowlers advantage.

[@gurdialsingh9863]

@@kunalsingh3121 why can't batsmen keep their bats inside the crease till the ball is released?

[@kunalsingh3121]

@@gurdialsingh9863 And by the way if u want to Make it bat vs ball,go back to 6 bouncers ,No field restrictions, Bring 1 new ball in odi cricket.These is rubbish to say mankading will maintain bat vs ball competition.

[@gurdialsingh9863]

@@kunalsingh3121 you are missing the point, why can't batsmen keep their bats inside the crease? I am not talking about making bat vs ball equal, i am asking simple question why can't batsmen follow a rule which is made to be followed?

[@SuperKannan1976]

If a batsman can do that a bowler can a bowl a no ball

[@skkhimani549]

Joy and harsha are absolutely correct ! Just listen full video who are saying it is against spirit of game

[@kevinmenezes8386]

The ICC and MCC need to come out clean and clear on this "run out" rule. Because if its legally out, there should be no such talk of this Spirit of the game. Also now that Ashwin has done it without a warning, I don't see why other bowlers should not look to use this tactic as a mode of dismissal. Also with so much technology around, I want to see 3rd umpire calling out front foot no balls. Also the umpire should call 1 short runs if batsman leaves the crease before the ball is delivered.

[@Vishalgupta-ix5ek]

If bowler crosses crease it will be a no ball..Then why should batsman allowed to go beyond the rules.. Actually batsman is one who is cheating and not playing with spirit of cricket..

[@Mishtiman]

Exactly. It is like Pak the chor calling us chor! Terrorism vho karthe hai, aur hamein bulathe hai vho.

[@juliancollins8162]

I am against mankad but I believe that there should be a different penalty for batsmen leaving their crease early. Maybe some sort of run penalty. No one is saying that batsman should be allowed to gain the advantage, Mankading is just a very severe punishment for the batsmen

[@Mishtiman]

@@juliancollins8162 It is like stumping actually, but it is ok, if icc gets a good penalty for that unfair, undue adv which the non-striker tries to take!

[@KARTIKEYA007]

@@juliancollins8162 Losing your wicket is a very mild penalty for a player who is trying ti gain an unfair advantage... the same thing happens in baseball. If a player starts running just as the ball is about to be pitched, the pitcher can get him out and stop him form taking unfair advantage.

[@Mr.Amazinggaming]

@@juliancollins8162 no. If a bowler bowls oversteps the batting team gets a no ball and a free hit, technically batsman can score 13 runs off of one legal delivery, i don't think Bowler should miss out on getting a wicked if a batsman leaves the crease before he's supposed to

[@Arjun69]

Inzamaming. Spot on Joy!

[@firenexus5958]

In reality, Against the law and spirit of game is to get out of your crease before the ball is being bowled. If a batsman try to cheat by running out of your crease to shorten its run length, Then the bowler has every right to stop him.

[@eddyvideostar]

Dear Fire Nexus: I agree with your sentiment but not the word "cheat." The batsman is only backing up, doing his job, and looking for efficient opportunities. If the Mankad bowler wants to capitalize -- that's his prerogative.

[@avibhagan]

@@eddyvideostar it is cheating ! it IS against the rules to break your crease before the ball leaves the bowler's hand. It is against the rules , that is WHY you can be given OUT , for doing it. Just like the other anti-cheating rules : (1) Impeding the fielder (2) Double bat The fielding teams don't appeal it the batsman does it on accident , that is in the spirit of the game. If it is done INTENTIONALLY , then the bowler and fielders can appeal and the batsman can be given out for , impeding the field , double bat OR Mankading !

[@eddyvideostar]

@@avibhagan: It's not cheating, although it is an action with consequences -- *according to the game* -- not the rules. It can be done successfully and consecutively without a word being spoken by the umpire. Whereas: It's different for the bowler with a bad action or not completing his simulated delivery motion before the Mankad.

[@avibhagan]

@@eddyvideostar You're wrong. I played cricket and backed up legally and never cheated, going the extra distance to get mankaded. You can leave the crease after the ball leaves the bowler's hand. If you leave before the ball is delivered, you deserve to be mankaded.

[@eddyvideostar]

@@avibhagan: I understand. You can attempt to inch away from the crease gradually with *discretion even before* the ball leaves the bowler's hand. The onus is upon the waiting batsman to take his risk. If he is out too far, yes, he deserves to be Mankad. My point is that cheating and indiscretion are different.

[@theresurgingape]

Both of these guys make a lot of sense. I like when this duo is in the studio.

[@e.k874]

if one of indian players got out on 48 or 98 like that these same guys would be crying hahah

[@otomackena7610]

Remember in last Aus vs Ind series Smith inzammed Aaron Finch.

[@ameyparab5298]

When this both are talking together everyone should keep quite and listen this both.

[@CaesarCassius]

Backwards Indian culture do not understand the ways of civilization and why there is etiquette in cricket. Mankad is jungli cricket.

[@paragbandre198]

@@CaesarCassius So you are ok with batsmen taking undue advantage? If you are, ask yourself - aren't you the one who is Jungli?

[@dr.ananthakrishnavemuri733]

I would like to say one simple thing, as one brother commented that English cricketers are crybabies........it is true. I was listening to an interview by wasim Akram and he had said that for the longest time, English players were calling reverse swing "cheating", until they understood the science behind it. Now everyone uses reverse swing. Let them cry.....they have colonial mindset.

[@CaesarCassius]

Backwards Indian culture do not understand the ways of civilization and why there is etiquette in cricket. Mankad is jungli cricket.

[@subratamondal3156]

@@CaesarCassius yup...second your point...batsman surely sould be allowed to cheat few yards in english civilization, as cheating seems symbol of your civilization.

[@andrewver]

At the end of the day I feel if the Mankad family made a written submission and asked people to stop calling it by their name... then that should be respected! It's just bullying at this point if they've asked it to stop and people think its clever to continue.... and at the end of the day... the act is just being run out...

[@pryo2460]

But I'd be happy if a Cricket rule is named on my name...i dont see how is it bullying...his name just got immortal...

[@techbaazy8895]

agreee.....rule is rule jo illitrates isko mankading keh rahe hai...unko phle cricket ka yeh rule dikhao

[@Shreyas834]

Jimmy Anderson is a disgrace . Ashwin did nothing wrong. I agree with all of you. Rules are rules, following them can’t ever be against the spirit of the game

[@vilobh2829]

Ashwin clearly waited for Buttler to move out. Ashwin's wrong here. And calling a cricket legend "a disgrace" is stupid.

[@redskullz1249]

Of course Jimmy doesn't have a problem with it considering he doesn't play limited over cricket. It's easy to sit on your high horse when batsmen aren't bending rules to steal quick singles in a test match.

[@vilobh2829]

@@darockk buttler left the crease after ashwin was about to bowl. But ashwin simply made a fool of butter by not bowling and instead mankaded him.

[@BharadwajSai291971]

@@vilobh2829 Buttler dont watch ball because he is a serial run stealer + cheat. He left 7times in ashwin's bowling already. Also ashwin's hand didnot go till front. A guy who got 20lives for 69runs wont do 21st time? Stupid batsmen biased argument. Dont behave like blind cricket

[@BharadwajSai291971]

@@vilobh2829 Ashwin won match. Buttler made fool out him for 2nd time that way thinking he can steal run every ball. If u searched , u would have known , Buttler was leaving every single time

[@sant4281]

If this rule is not there batsman can run from half of the pitch only...🤣😂🤣

[@juliancollins8162]

the bowlers do not have to bowl the ball while the batsmen are out their crease, if the bowler refused to bowl until the batsman was in his crease then the batsman would not be able to be halfway down the pitch

[@sant4281]

@@juliancollins8162 penalty for fielding team for not finishing overs

[@sant4281]

Why you want to give any advantage to the batsman...we can have warning system if a batsman cross over the crease before the ball bowled...2 times warning and last given self out...

[@juliancollins8162]

@@sant4281 The umpires can take it into account and give the fielding team extra time before penalising. I am against mankad because I want to see high quality cricket where batsmen and bowlers showcase their high level of skill. There is nothing skillful about a mankad and it reeks of desperation because you don't think you will be able to dismiss the batsman any other way.

[@sant4281]

@@juliancollins8162 yeah i agree....but it is also batsman responsibility ground his till the ball delivered...if all batsman ground there bat then there is no way to do mankad

[@atharvakitkaru]

Credit to Ashwin. Now , batsmen fear leaving their crease

[@rog5963]

What a completely unbiased assessment that wasn't. I wonder if kohli was to get mankaded in the T20 final whether these two ashwin cheerleaders would still sing the same tune.

[@paroxymal7688]

Please someone make Anderson watch this video

[@balaji21121109]

His ego is bigger than his head. Arrogance in all directions.

[@rog5963]

If mankading is so acceptable, why have the mankads asked for their name to be removed from it!? Or maybe Anderson just reflects 99% of cricketers when he speaks out against it...

[@arunbahadur8929]

Bhai ye law bhot sahi h Bc ek baar main ek gaanv me khel ra tha bc vaha log adhi pitch me pohoch jaa re the to maine bataya to kehne lage ki aisa kuch rule ni h 😂 Thank god to ashwin now every moron know about this rule 👌

[@birajdas2699]

Truly Harsha Sir and Joy Sir took out some of the great point. I totally agree with both of you gentlemen.

[@captainamerica4167]

Rule is Rule .... Rule for All 🤘

[@utkarshakarki6015]

To fir him jab khelte hai tab kyun mankad nahi karte

[@SQUID12]

Well its not a run out because in a run out the bowler bowls the ball and then run out the batsmen thats not in this case therefore it should be called as mankading

[@captainamerica4167]

@@SQUID12 whatever it may be called but It is Legal and as per the Law 😌

[@terrorist6928]

@@SQUID12 it is still should be given out according to rules

[@utkarshakarki6015]

@@captainamerica4167 no doubt it is according to the rules but not according to the spirit of the game understand otherwise why we do not use this rule while playing gully cricket

[@vinodterry2212]

Agree non-Striker Run out is absolutely right !

[@Lathi33]

I have no problem with these types of run outs after watching odi world cup semi final , and the finals. Millimeters matter

[@hareknowsnone]

The law should be..' The batsmen should be inside the crease till the frontfoot of the bowler does not land'...unambiguous..clear cut..easy to take decisions

[@KARTIKEYA007]

No, till the ball leaves the bowler's hand

[@shekontekon9799]

I am going to call using sandpaper to change the ball as Smithing !! Who is with me?

[@krishnakoduma9344]

Thankyou Ashwin for standing up for the bowlers 👏🙏

[@Mishtiman]

Good!! Very good!! Harsha and the other one said it "Perfectly". We live in the 21st century. Laws are laws now, they need to be clearly followed. Crease is there for a reason!! U screw around with that, u pay the price.

[@juliancollins8162]

No-one is disagreeing with the laws, they are arguing that the laws should be changed

[@Mishtiman]

@@juliancollins8162 I'm talking abt laws in general in the 21st century!! World at large needs to get that right!

[@completelyuselesstrivia5319]

Calling one short is a great idea, but I don't think a run should be taken off if a boundary is hit since that doesn't depend on how far the batsmen run

[@DipakGupta]

Yeah exactly this has been my point all this while. 😕

[@devmehta6648]

I have a super simple solution to it. I think the rule can be changed to the batsmen can't leave till the front foot of bowler touches the ground (which is as such checked for no ball). So, now that the tv umpire checks no ball. If at the same moment the batsmen is out of his crease it should be declared short run. This would solve both the problem. 1) the advantage of batsmen will be taken away 2) it will make it clear when a bowler can runout on non striker end. What are your thoughts mr. Bhogle and mr. Bhattacharya? Btw it was one of the best discussions i have heard about mankading.

[@ianhammond6009]

Brilliant idea! A perfect solution, along with being a better way of dealing with this kind of situation.

[@RahulChouhan-nz6ni]

In that way why SWITCH HiT why its not cheating, bcoz bowler delivers bowl according to right hand but he switches and get advantage

[@mohitdhiman79]

Tomorrow someone might say that it's cheating that the bolwler bowls the ball with the intention of getting the batsman out but the batsman hit him for a six.

[@RahulChouhan-nz6ni]

@@mohitdhiman79 by your logic someone might say why bowler gets his wicket batsman wants to hit six

[@Santy_than]

Hitting switch hit requires skill like any other hits.

[@RahulChouhan-nz6ni]

@@Santy_than if u can understand my comment its not about skills, its about getting unfair advantage by one way or other

[@Santy_than]

same way bowler bowling cutters,slower ones , Knuckle ball sand other variations should be called unfair ...this game is all about deceiving each other within cricketing law

[@suhaib5941]

Fantastic solution from joy Bhattacharya , 1 short run if the batsman is out of the crease earlier, call it short. Absolutely brilliant 👏. But I don't think it is an honorable thing to dismiss the batsman before the ball is bowled. Also imagine yuvraj hitting 4 sixes of broad and Dhoni getting mankaded on 5th ball , its always about who's player is mankaded, that is how people take sides on these issues. I truly believe it was because buttler was in top form 🙂.

[@romilharia]

Brilliant points pointed out here totally agree with you Harsha Bhogle and Joy Bhattacharyya

[@naturemanam2936]

Totally agree with panelists' reviews.

[@goodnews4arijit]

Absolutely couldn't agree more! It's legal. PERIOD.

[@lordabhijith]

I miss Inzamam, he was literally a rock. The best defensive technique and slow as hell.

[@e.k874]

his bat speed was fast great batsmen

[@abinaya261]

Well said harsha

[@People-judge-from-name]

How could it is in game of spirit when non-striker leaves it's crease before delivery of ball🙄🙄

[@wafer2437]

I think the reason why “mankading” is frowned upon is because the bowler isn’t really putting in effort to earn the wicket. For example, it would require much more effort to actually bowl to a batsmen and get him out that way. Where as mankading the batsmen requires almost no effort and therefore ones not ‘truly’ earning the wicket, its just due to the fault of the batsmen.But it all comes down to the fact that its a law within the game, and laws are put in place for a reason.

[@saminder987]

1) arent all wickets due to the fault of the batsman? 2) many times bowler bowls a very poor delivery but because of batsman's fault or ground's dimensions or even wind direction it ends up in the hands of fielder near boundary, would you also call that unfair and bowler not 'deserving the wicket' since that could have gone for a boundary any other day

[@Mishtiman]

Harsha said it perfectly!! Non-striker shud wait, until the ball leaves the bowler's hand.

[@abhijeetpandey7258]

the way harsha explained jiimmy and anderson case was simply awesome

[@sudhanshuparida6160]

English guys cry all the time

[@jatinsingh7361]

The question asked at 3:46 never got answered by anyone!

[@yogamarga6743]

Great suggestion Joy!

[@abinaya261]

Jimmy just got burnt by ash lol

[@juliancollins8162]

Harsha does not have a problem with a bowler performing a mankad but has a problem with the name, why does he not want this to be called mankad if there is nothing wrong with it? Seems to me that deep down he knows that mankading is not right which is why he does not want the name of a former Indian cricketer associated with it.

[@santhoshkumar2270]

The first time I heard the right speech instead of spirit of cricket

[@apurvagandhi1625]

Great idea from joy

[@pratiknarayanan6586]

Field restrictions have changed through the years. The number of bouncers per over have reduced, yet batsman can play any odd shot they want, switch-hit, scoop, whatever. The free hit rule was introduced, to penalise the bowler. If I'm not mistaken, the new ball is being taken sooner than before, so excessive reverse swing is also out of the equation. So one rule, which is in the bowler's favour, people are crying foul. I won't be surprised if in a few years time, a free hit will be declared for a wide ball.

[@juliancollins8162]

Would a run penalty not be better for the game instead of the batsmen being out? That way the batsmen is encouraged to remain in his crease and the spectacle of the match is not ruined

[@pratiknarayanan6586]

@@juliancollins8162 I don't see the reason for it to be changed. Weather the spectacle of the match is ruined or not is subjective. And I think the biggest encouragement for the batter to remain in his/her crease should be the fear of losing their wicket. I feel the bigger picture is that it has been a batsman dominated game, and let's not make the game easier for them, or at least give the bowlers something.

[@juliancollins8162]

@@pratiknarayanan6586 I believe it should be changed because I watch cricket to see the high level skills of the batsmen and the bowlers, a mankad does not involve any skill. All it would take would be a two run penalty given for a batsman leaving his crease early and then he would lose more than he would gain from leaving his crease early to pinch an extra run. The third umpire will be checking every ball for a no ball in the ipl this year so as part of that check he could also check whether the batsman is out his crease. This would stop the batsmen trying to gain an unfair advantage and also not bring the controversy a mankad does.

[@pratiknarayanan6586]

@@juliancollins8162 I do see your point. But in last year's IPL, I don't think they checked every ball. It was either the ones they weren't sure of, and the ones where a wicket has fallen. But if there is a system, that could check every ball, without fail, and not using any time, then maybe. But as of now, it seems impractical because even with all this technology, umpires don't pick all the no balls, and a batsman out of his crease is much more common. But still, if rules could be changed, then the bouncer rule should change, the beamer rule should change. To make things even for both parties. Till then, let it be.

[@punjabigundaa]

What a great idea by Joy.

[@debarghyaroy4042]

Ball tampering = Smithing/Warnering, how was that? :)

[@AkhandBharatVarsha2047]

I could not agree more! Great debate!!

[@dattatreyapujar4068]

Harsha and Joy always on spot

[@nikhilverma2647]

There should be no debate on this , it's the rule should be bowled 🤷

[@bhagyeshkulkarni9259]

Absolutely agree with the two gentlemen! 👍

[@raunac1498]

That's very well put guys...🙏

[@michaelmuldowney8]

Excellent debate - the one run short suggestion is perfect solution.

[@krishnachaitanya1912]

Wish cricketers outside sub-continent watch this video and get some revelation. If you long to continue in their blind folds, let them continue. We can watch and enjoy more of not a controversy as still controversy.

[@juliancollins8162]

I think that Harsha and a lot of other Indians are misunderstanding the view of players and fans who are not in favour of the Mankad. Mankad is allowed in the laws of the game which is why players like Anderson are calling for the rules to be changed, they do not want the rules to change so that the batsmen are able to gain an advantage. They believe that there is a way to remove the mankad from the game and also stop the batsmn gaining an advantage.

[@prabhashjain692]

@1:48 When was Anderson given out for being a habitual offender of standing outside the crease?

[@commenterdek3241]

He was reffering to Buttler.

[@dagranaresh]

Can we name it after 'Tipu' .. Great underaged Batsman who got run out in similar way, during British era playing along with greatest all rounder ever 'Bhuvan'..

[@amaanalam6749]

Lol

[@tenmeh]

People also bowl a wide ball to stump out a batsman when they see the batsman advancing down the pitch. So, what's the problem with the intent of running out the non striker?

[@MrCvivekkumar]

Nice iDea , Marking it as short, it will really work! ICC should Make changes in Law.

[@AshutoshKumar-sb7nj]

And it is very immoral for the batsman to leave the crease until the bowl is being bowled....

[@surajbala89]

I m fine with calling it Mankad, what we should not call it is unfair. This is only the most savage reply to batsman who wants to gain extra yards

[@hi5ashwin]

Good idea by Joy!

[@sudhanshu8737]

I agree with joy a run short would be great

[@abinaya261]

Credit goes to ash

[@manishramnani8777]

Here's a little query then what about the fielders in the 30 yard circle when the bowler is coming in to bowl they are little outside the circle and they come in as the bowl is delivered something should be done there as well why can't fielders stand still at their positions because you are so engrossed in the game that you do such things it is not to steal a single or something. Something should be done there as well isn't it!?

[@shrikarhbhat1026]

Harsha sir I think Aron Finch was well ahead of his crease because of that he was safe and completed a run. It was against India only but not in the recent series. May be two years before it was shown in television too in that match.

[@ianhammond6009]

Having looked online a lot for history and incidents of Mankading and it's interesting as to who has what opinion. I believe this may be due to the approach to the game depending on what part of the world people are from. It does appear that the vast majority of those actually doing it (and supporting it) are from India, or of Indian descent/origin, while there appear to be very few recorded incidences of it from elsewhere, strongly suggesting it's seen in India as a more legitimate and encouraged thing to do. Those involved in this debate, while being hugely biased aren't neccesarily wrong - certainly not in the laws of the game. That being said it's a scurrilous thing to do, BUT there HAS to be something in place to stop batsmen taking an unfair advantage too. The suggestion of calling 'one short' seems to be a very good one here. For me it achieves the aim instantly, without causing negative controversy and bad feeling in the game. Cricket is a bigger thing and doesn't need this kind of incident ruining it, whichever side of the fence we're on.

[@nixtr3sharma]

The counter to the point and observation is that most of the people getting run out seem to be from anglo or white descent who observed the fact that this against the spirit of the game based on the incident with Brown and Mankad in Australia. The vilification of Mankad by the Australian press seems to have impressed on the anglo world that it's not okay to do this. Those who are saying that this is against the spirit of the game being hugely biased against saying that this against the spirit. The other observation is that potentially players of Indian origin or descent don't leave their crease. It goes both ways, and if you take the bias out of the Brown Mankad incident you will see this this is okay.

[@ianhammond6009]

@@nixtr3sharma Excellently made point Lloyd!

[@jafferali2533]

I like the idea of Joy like if the non striker is out of the grease mean minimize 1 run

[@yashwanthpasaladi2714]

1:43 to 1:47 savage 😂

[@rog5963]

And complete nonsense. Anderson will always be a lot more popular than anyone who goes around mankading.

[@nitishrajpathak2516]

Exactly. If its in the rule book its not against spirit of cricket. You can't tolerate a bowler going an inch further the line while bowling. You even penalize him/her with free hit then how come batsmen get privileges ?

[@sathvik6829]

If stumping is legal then why isn't mankading?

[@surya96962]

Harsha should convey this to Virat who was mocking his teammate in IPL. If Jimmy shredded the photo Virat is no better and unfortunate that Ashwin had to put up with the shit. If it's some teammate is fine the mocking comes from captain shows the captain temperament.

[@cricketcrackle776]

Ashwin is not virats teammate how stupid people are man can't you understand the franchise system when a guy play for particular franchise he is loyal to that franchise only and what he did was justifying because ash moked him after getting him catch out so its just a players fight but at the end both play for team and ash still was clapping and praising virat when he scored first 100 in pink ball test and virat praised him in first test so both are friends sometimes we say gali words to our friend while playing or in heat of the moment but we don't have cameras around us so no one bother it after game finishes we get back to normal state and people from camera think that they hate eachother.

[@cricketcrackle776]

By the way that doesn't show temprament thats show competition.

[@surya96962]

Dude watch the video of match where kohli mocks with gesture of Mankad while taking Ashwin catch. Ashwin was angry and throwing things in the dug out. IPL was a 2 month contract. When you are captaining the country you are still the skipper of India while playing for a IPL franchise. Why Ashwin has been consistently sidelined and not even given a single series till now in ODIs and T20's. He's still the best player in T20 and a goat in test. Even they try to sideline him in test.

[@surya96962]

Being loyal to your franchise doesn't mean you have to mock the players. When the captain and premium bowler fight and you mock each other it doesn't bode well. Even Vaughan in cricbuzz commented that ash and Virat looks like they don't like each other. Can you expect dohni to do such things. It's ofcourse about temperament.

[@sharudl6868]

Agreed with you all..

[@chintufellow]

Go Harsha. Totally agree.

[@hareyshiva2882]

There are many things that are in rule game. But there is also thing called sportsmanship.

[@Johnpaul-pk7xx]

I disagree calling it run-out, wen the striker steps out its called stumping, then when the non striker steps out why it should be called run-out.

[@petruccifanboi]

By that same logic, why should a batsman be allowed to stand outside a crease to a fast bowler to gain advantage of negating swing or deliberately hinder the rhythm and the need for bowler to change his length??

[@petruccifanboi]

BTW I support mankading !!

[@charanakula4817]

This is exactly why Harsha Bhogle and Joy Bhattacharya are WAY more superior as cricket analysts and their commentary transcends beyond your cricketing stardom - watched it right after Ajay Jadeja and lot of other cricketers' reaction. These guys put it as clear as one could.

[@pavankumarattavar7514]

If a bowler keep his feet a centimeter outside, the decision goes against him. Then this rule also needs to be followed.

[@srijanchandrakar5982]

Batsman will be on half pitch if this rule do not exists

[@sachinchintam4067]

Its very clear that even a bowler oversteps by an inch still its consider as a noball as per ICC as per cricket rules similiarly the same oppurtunity should give to bowlers by the time the bowler deliver the ball the batsmen sholud be in crease it is legal and if mankadind done by bowler it is a fair thing cricketing rules are same for both batsmen and bowlers whatever ash did that is 100% correct

[@shivpatel3687]

fair enough

[@TOBYWASLOST0]

How about a very srtaight silly mid off walking in as the bowler is approaching.? Is this unfair to the batter? All fielders walk in. Its usually so you are not from a standing start but if you are in the eye of the batsmen then that is not fair

[@balaji982]

Run short is the best way to move forward for backing up and not dismissal

[@juliancollins8162]

Yes I agree, would be much better for the game and then we would not have to talk about this mankad nonsense and see Harsha become very defensive because it is named after an indian

[@poserrider559]

Now how we going to name steve smith for ball tampering !???

[@lookingforlove839]

Smithing it

[@cheepurupallishivaji7418]

Yes, if bowler crosses the crease they call it a no-ball and a free hit will be given then if the batsman crosses the crease then the run should be lowered...

[@juliancollins8162]

I don't like mankad, some sort of run penalty when a batsmen is caught leaving the crease early would be preferable to the bowler being able to dismiss the batsman

[@paragbandre198]

Actually I don't have a problem calling it Mankading. All Mankad did was show the smartness and fairness. It should be cheered not degraded.

[@ianhammond6009]

........or neither! If it's in the rules it's legal, but personally I think both cheering or degrading it is wrong. We definitley need to find a better way of dealing with it. Batsmen must be kept honest AND the decency of the game must be protected, therefore the idea of calling a short run would be an excellent idea, as opposed to delivering a premeditated Mankad. Everyone wins.

[@AkashSharma-ke5yl]

If there is a no ball and non striker batsman is out of the crease before releasing the ball then make it right.

[@anuradhaverma7]

If it's okay for non-striker to come out of the crease for 1-2 Inches than it would be also fare for him/her to shot by 1-2 Inches while running to other end and fielding team need to apologise to Batsman for running him/her out.

[@malikraheel591]

Agree with the suggestion of joy bhatya

[@juliancollins8162]

A run penalty if a batsman is caught leaving his crease early would be better than the bowler being able to dismiss the batsman, the law needs to be changed soon

[@babaidas_22]

Very nicely discussed. All are questioning only Ashwin!! Why they don't ask Butler to stay inside the crease?😂

[@harishkumar-km8ck]

How is it... If ICC fine 5 runs penalty to batting team and the same minus from batsman who leave the crease before bowler deliver the ball... Do the same for twice then for 3rd time announce the batsman as Out!!