It's All in Girard, Man | Doug Wilson

In this talk entitled "It's All in Girard, Man" from GraceAgenda 2021, Pastor Doug Wilson discusses, Rene Girard, imitation, and sacrificial crisis.
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[@Raybo-68]

That soundman has Doug's mic so hot I can hear a distal pulse in his temple... ❤️...back in Moscow😂

[@whtstr2133]

Envy has a master, lies. Deception is more effective, and is the first sin of Man, though not by Man. Deception caused envy in the heart of Eve, causing doubt and leading to the fall. I have faith in you continuing the conversation in your own mind, brother, so I'll stop and let the Holy Spirit guide you. Love you, bro.

[@aimeetraina]

Xxl

[@sharingwisdom2903]

I found this channel after watching the joe rogan video and I have been greatly blessed by these teachings

[@jawshh559]

Lord grant me patience for this person in the congregation whose phone keeps going off 😂😂

[@betty8173]

I pretend that they are doctors and have to keep their phone on for their patients : )

[@knowone11111]

It was the mics feedback, lol it happens on every voice inflection if you listen close..

[@oregrug2201]

@@knowone11111 That's the Facebook messenger notification bell for mobile devices

[@Wink81]

That sounds identical to my email notification, crazy annoying!

[@montanaperkins9418]

26 minutes in and half expecting Pastor Doug to address it. But then I remembered the bag of chips at the Q&A.😂

[@chumbucket5109]

iPhone has a feature that allows you to mute your phone with just the flick of a switch. It’s on the upper left side of your phone.

[@discovernow1015]

Well said, and can I add, that whatever the make/model, you should at least know how to turn it off for 30 minutes.

[@C_James_O]

I didn’t realize what you were talking about at first, but now I do

[@Mikizushi]

This was gold. Thanking God for you sir.

[@danielsvision]

Gratitude through suffering is a very powerful key to life for our short time on this rock we call earth.

[@felixguerrero6062]

Glad to see Wilson engaging with Girard.

[@WhiteStoneName]

Same. Kinda surprised actually.

[@johnl.2895]

Me since 2022: "It's all in Wilson, Man!!"

[@scatoutdebutter]

Really glad I took the plunge and decided to watch this whole thing even though it was long... Really good!

[@gregwill500]

I needed to hear that. Gods word always gets to root of the problem. And ding!

[@jackuber7358]

What a terrific teaching moment and an uplifting rebuking for a failure to be grateful AND unapologetic for God's blessings. Maranatha!

[@Joey-fq5rr]

I have been waiting so long for this talk.

[@frayfray720]

Girard's mimetic theory is so evident today that it's catching on like a wildfire with social media.

[@GFI100]

Thank you.

[@devinsmith2843]

Great talk!

[@denvercrucifixion5928]

Love it! One addition. The church should be apologetic in general for the terrible stewards we have been of God's blessings

[@knowone11111]

Maybe but the most damage was done by the Catholic Church. Those, (& other cult Christians) are who we should be contending with/praying for the most.

[@denvercrucifixion5928]

@@knowone11111 there is no maybe it is a for sure. As for worrying about the dead or their affairs, that is not the priority Luke 9 59 And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

[@knowone11111]

@@denvercrucifixion5928 thnx but I don't think that anology you used fits the context of what I'm saying. My Mom was catholic & is now born again & saved. That's what I'm saying, we need to pray for & contend for the folks that think they're Christian but aren't, the most. They're not far off, they just need a little truth. If they reject that, then what you're saying would be an appropriate response.

[@denvercrucifixion5928]

@@knowone11111 of course, but the way we contend for any starts with following Christ heart and soul. If we follow heart and soul, we will be good stewards that is natural. Most of the church establishment with correct doctrine is not following Christ singly. We must not be blaming the apostates for our lack of stewardship. The dead can sort out the dead. We must be that light on a hill and the rest will follow. It is the church's fault for the state of society. I agree 100% with evangelism of cults and non-believers alike. We must remember that we are turned away from God into false beliefs by our own lusts. As Christians with the blessings of God, we must set ourselves apart in sanctified affections to Christ. Through this we will be the standard that resists the deadness of mankind and in no other way can we be.

[@knowone11111]

@@denvercrucifixion5928 ahh, I see what you mean, thnx. Do you have any thoughts as to how we got here & what we can do to change trajectory? I sure have my theories, lol

[@Raybo-68]

No Quarter November....Reee🔥

[@moonscore]

Inspired ❤️

[@bernardguynunns5658]

It's all in Aquinas man!

[@johnslagboom1836]

Brilliant message on Envy. After listening to Jordan Peterson and lectures on the Great Minds of Western Philosophy for months now. They pretty boil down the great woes of Mankind to Envy at well! The Bible is all you need!!!

[@sbeerman1919]

Whoa!

[@danggramson5371]

Nice

[@markgregory3213]

"Dangerously close to repentance"!

[@Joey-fq5rr]

*ding*

[@mythographer]

Conformity masquerading as individuality. Absolutely! Girard rocks! I’m so glad a conservative Christian is introducing him. Mimetic desire leads to mimetic rivalry, which leads to scapegoating and violence. In our case, MSM is busily creating scapegoats to order for an increasingly rivalrous public: woke vs. patriots. Orange man bad! Unvaxed, MAGA dimwits deserve to lose their livelihoods. Rivalry grows into collective, seemingly justified violent conflict. It’s coming to a narrative-driven, mimetic society near you. It’s already breaking out.

[@C_James_O]

Ding 🛎

[@scatoutdebutter]

23:13 - "When the world directs it's acid sneers at your privileges, please note that they are trying to make you feel guilty for having been the recipient of the grace of God... because God has been kind to you... [but]... [God tells you to be grateful and rejoice for His kindness to you]" ..... Very refreshing! *** HOWEVER *** When (e.g.) "privilege" is mentioned, I sense that "specter" in the background of the scenes of the French Revolution (e.g. Tale of Two Cities movie with Ronald Coleman)) ... of the privileged French upper class (Basil Rathbone) mercilessly trodding down the poor peasants.

[@amarleborgne9073]

Malice and Envy aka Social Justice Unapologetic living under the blessings of Yahweh. Love does not envy.

[@oliviagoldsborough1209]

"This reconciliation is always based upon the substitutionary death of Jesus Christ on a bloody cross. That is the only answer". Amen. 17:10

[@itsHeatherKay]

Super great- but how could he concentrate with all those phone notifications going off?!

[@knowone11111]

That was actually feedback from the mic, lol

[@jonathondellinger9760]

@@knowone11111 definitely not. That undoubtedly the ding of an iPhone

[@knowone11111]

@@jonathondellinger9760 lol, if you listen close, it happens during his voice inflections.

[@oregrug2201]

It happens during downward inflections as well. I know I commented this on an earlier comment of yours Kanwe Yest, but its the notification bell for Facebook Messenger on mobile devices. I could probably identify that sound from 100ft away in a drunken stupor after having ear surgery done, like most people younger than 30

[@austinrothjr]

His congregation includes children of all ages. There is no child care and they expect that children will sometimes sound sound like children. I expect this is good training for a preacher to ignore all sorts of sights and sounds.

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

As much as I detest “virtual church”, this comes close to a viable substitution for in-person.

[@scatoutdebutter]

Pastor Wilson is "Gospel-centered" .... "Christ-centered"!

[@wateringthefate3890]

I was Uncle Sam in a school play because of my bold forthness back in the 70s 😏☺

[@olddoc4430]

Yes, the pastors don’t discuss the sin of envy. Neither does anybody else. It, for me, is the dark shadow in the human soul. Nietzsche might have called it the will to murder. Mimesis (envy) leads to conflict which is naturally, biologically and archetypally contagious. Thus as Girard described it, it leads ultimately to rioting, psychotic chaos and finally the resolution crisis of all against one murder. The human sacrifice. When I re read his two great books, and many of his other books I had an epiphany. On an unconscious level my mind rejected the conclusion being presented so brilliantly. “I truly didn’t want to know these things about myself”. I couldn’t even keep it in the front of my mind. Neither can those pastors who won’t (can’t) preach it. The mind reals and rejects the “truth” that we are all just a trip and fall away from becoming members of a murderous lynch mob. The first of Rene Girard’s books I read was “Things Hidden Since the Foundation of The World”. He wasn’t joking. Envy is not an “ordinary” sin. It is hidden from all of us. Coincidentally the works of Satan are also universally hidden from us. I love that you gave this talk. I agree that the only “solution” is on an individual basis and that of being saved by the in dwelling of the Spirit as one is born again. It then becomes part of ones life work to maintain surveillance for this sin and use praise and prayer to deal with it. With love

[@AnHebrewChild]

Old Doc 44 -- One Pastor discusses the sin of envy. Pastor Jesus. As we Christians should discern, envy is advertised intra-soul as the 'palatable sin' of consumerism which is even more nicely termed capitalism, but falsely so called. Godly "free marketism" does not assume the almighty dollar (or trade equivalent) as the chief end of man nor the chief end of man's activities (Mises' Human Action). "We are all Randians now" tho sadly. Yes, even evangelicals. But Jesus stiffly warns against mammonism and covetousness. These are things no doubt you know but figured I'd type thoughts out as a reminder to any reading.

[@C_James_O]

🛎

[@JohnGodwin777]

The audio quality is so poor it’s giving me a headache.

[@dnleimer]

That phone though....

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

41:00

[@iohannesfactotum]

Also Herbert Marcuse. His ideas created woke.

[@3leon306]

Sounds as if Wilson has been listening to Bishop Robert Barron who has given very similar talks dating back 5 to 9 years

[@jordanvandegiessen1801]

I’m so sad that I cannot make it past my annoyance with the phone dinging. Someone turn on the sleeping guy’s hearing aid! His wife is very mad at him!

[@Jordanazrei4]

Had to stop the video to keep myself from going insane from the iPhones going off.

[@wateringthefate3890]

Wait what my dad made his own beer above the washer and dryer I loved caping bottles. He have casses under pool table make beer you drink 12 pack to be smashed or 2 beers? Just yeast few other balloons for lids so pressure would do what's needed without issues. So yep I've seen to much 😆

[@berglen100]

Imagination is the only God in man, Neville Goddard proved it was in all that used I AM good and evil and nothing free is because your so smart. Boasting sinks ya.

[@olddoc4430]

Eve envied the power and privilege of God. But, wait a minute, didn’t Satan have exactly the same envy experience. She needed the prodding of Satan to get there, thence she became fallen. Now that we all are fallen we need no prodding to envy. It is universally natural and dominating in the entire human race. Wo is us. With love

[@SammyIvories86]

10th commandment assumes mimetic theory…

[@berglen100]

The happening of Jesus is inside man not outside on wood, it wakes inside us the real cross that happens to first Adam's blind to where it happens.

[@jonathondellinger9760]

I had to stop listening with the incessant phone dinging

[@studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272]

Why does someone go to church with a stupid phone ? Stay at home and learn the word respect 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@thered96]

How is it even possible that no one told that person to turn off their notifications????