It's Been Fun War Thunder... & Why I'm Walking Away (for now)

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[@ferrous3262]

honestly mate you wont be missed

[@Matthew_ksp]

The pin of shame

[@onyks1]

💀

[@ultimatewarden1168]

what would possess you to say this

[@ENXSIVITY]

Pin of shame

[@zedmate9605]

Lmao

[@MrEsphoenix]

The most frustrating thing about war thunder is the wasted potential.

[@DraconixDG]

Yes it is extremely frustrating, I just think that Gaijin can do much more with their game and become one of the greatest sort of mil-sim games of all time simply because of just the amount of systems they have but it's bug ridden and stale just like Ash said.

[@LupusAries]

Yeah that's what made it so hated in combat flight simmer circles. When it came out it promised to be that great game, one that could do the holy grail of a proper combined arms sim on air, sea and land. One that we could play with our non simmer friends, so that they might one day join us. And we invited them to come join us. Only to find it a broken bug-riddled mess, with a dev whose CMs rather spend time fighting with us than accepting our help. Telling us straight up that we in FRB/SB didn't matter as we were to few to matter to the company. And that we should focus on getting more people into the game, so that we might matter, instead of focusing on nudging gaijin towards making it a game that we could recommend to our friends first. The idiots snubbed one of the most passionate and helpful communities around, because we dared disagree with them.

[@theroach2204]

yep same with Elite dangerous. Devs just want money these days, a good game comes 2nd.

[@Hjiopyu]

Indeed

[@jedimasternoob]

I would def say that, and the rampant cheater problem thats just swept under the rug by the devs as if it its a non issue.

[@TimsVariety]

I hope everything works out. Much respect.

[@RH0DI]

The soul died when they changed the music. In a symbolic way, it was a changing of the guard. The death of a more classical, loving passion for aviation, and the birth of a new, rotten age of profiteering and modernity.

[@accelerationquanta5816]

Capitalism has NEVER been about anything except making money for rich elites.

[@ShorkDork]

@@accelerationquanta5816take a shower bro

[@WTCheatShaming]

As someone who hasn't had the music on in over 4 years it really doesn't do it for me

[@-.-.---.--...--.-.......-.....]

Well said! 👏

[@Vostok7789]

@@ShorkDork hes right lulz

[@hiruko2373]

I know the video just came out but still it's been a great journey.

[@yummypiee6981]

tbh, as a younger guy interested in mostly ww2 and interwar tech its such a weird space to be where everyone is losing their minds over jets and i'm over here wondering when planes like the barracuda or skua are going to come to the game

[@robertgaudet7407]

I thought we had the skua. (edit) I guess not :p

[@vaultraider1]

There is a squadron of texans that Flys by quite frequently where I live, and still every single time I yell out to my 3 yr old son 'texans!' And we both run out to watch them fly by... such a joy every time. I feel similar I regards to WT... I literally have now just come to the point of doing the squadron activity and that's it... I want to see much needed changes and fixes that should have been taken care of years ago... but still persist... it has honestly just become disappointingly frustrating now... Best to you and your health sir o7

[@catmus1506]

That’s exactly like my town. In East Gippsland we have the Roulettes and RAAF trainer planes flying over every week. I love going out and watching them. One particular training run has a prop plane dive down and do a pseudo bombing or ground attack run on our town. The sound of the PC-21 screaming down out of the sky is just so awesome!

[@jojojam753]

The sad story is that WT is a PVD game: Player vs Developer They constantly tried to make the game worse, more grindy, increase monetization etc. plenty of features are introduced half baked and issues take ages to fix. There is so much potential with the game and they dont care as they prefer the squeeze

[@trashblob]

So true. Had a talk with a friend a while ago. We both play WT for .. ages .. really. I asked him, what he thinks was the coolest thing in WT. He said "April fools was almost every time real fun." We think, we played it so much, because there was nothing like it .. nothing better .. but that doesn't make WT really good. The Talk eventually took the "if i was a billionaire, I would buy the snail and do this and that"-turn .. There was always the potential. They never really made something out of it.

[@juancortapan7845]

7 years playing war thunder. I never played something beyond tier 5. I just dont like it. Only exception is the object 279 at tier 6)

[@xavier4519]

ive recently reached the sabre A-5 yet i only had 10 jet matches tops

[@brannonmeador1792]

I miss the old days of 6.7 when the tiger 2 was the scariest dog of that br instead of ww2 tanks now fighting sabot and heat fs all the time

[@libier3271]

@@brannonmeador1792 Tigers 2 are now decent to play after all BR decompressions,you still sometimes fight heatfs and sabot but most of those tanks are paper thin and die easy. Bigger problem is the player base lacking any awareness and rushing to their deaths and leaving after a single death and SPAA not doing what they were made to do

[@juancortapan7845]

@@brannonmeador1792 the real apex predators were the Jagdtiger and the IS-4 back in the old days

[@hrsmp]

7 years wasn't enough time to realise that the game is not about tanks, it's about planes. You're working as a live target and sl/rp deliverer for cas players, of course you're not gonna like higher ranks what a surprise.

[@orka5352]

I've taken a couple prolonged breaks from this game since I first started playing in 2013. I come back here and there but I'm happy that I haven't truly been hooked in ages. I mostly just tune in and play a couple sim matches and go play a different game again. The thing I miss the most was the old game modes that they offered for sim AND rb (historical those days) were the historical events. You'd see in the events tab the battle of midway or battle of britian and everyone would be limited to certain planes even if it was at a huge disadvantage to one team. It was the best.

[@toxicstorm5924]

They do still do that now but it’s super rare

[@orka5352]

@@toxicstorm5924 Yeah it used to rotate weekly

[@blacknapalm2131]

The 'Legend of Victory' event just announced is a 35 000 point event, over SIX STAGES for a 'reward' of a copy pasted Yak3 with a single 20mm cannon. That's a legit 40 HOUR grind for a plane that is WORSE than its copied variant. Gaijin have lost the plot. I agree that they don't seem to understand the GAMEPLAY of their own game, all they seem to understand is the maths and the money.

[@chost-059]

thats peak warthunder content, so exiting and fun

[@BaATep]

It does not take 6 hours to get 35000 points be realistic

[@MasterofBlitz]

@@BaATep It doesn't if you have the time. A lot of the old guard, myself included, we were only teens when this game came out, now we are full grown adults who have jobs and stuff to do.

[@xeon39688]

Yeah takes more

[@Windwalker85]

@@BaATep it literally took me an hour in Sim... in arcade, with proper plane you can do it in under 10 matches. People are just being crybabies and want stuff for free with zero effort.

[@Arcalargo]

I'll keep notifications on and whatever games you move to playing, I'll happily watch and listen

[@kevinhatcher3765]

I feel like this quote is similar to how you're feeling."It's been a long journey, but now were finally home"- Ace Combat 5

[@Xeemix]

Hundreds upon hundreds of vehicles, only to play team deathmatch, I'm making my own damn game. I uninstalled over year ago and have been happier ever since.

[@RedFail1-1]

Been about 6 months for me. Same. Never felt better. I was always stressed and frustrated. Every match I'd find myself having literal anxiety attacks thinking about how some wallet warrior was just gonna smack me out of the sky before I could do anything, wasting my time. Felt like I had to pay money just to make any progress. Man I really do not miss playing this "game"

[@thegrandestcherokee7161]

​@RedFail1-1 lol good riddance. Takes nothing to enjoy playing the 2.3 to 5.3 battle range, and the fights are still better than any other aviation game I've played (unless you count dcs but that game is for wicked nerds)

[@Arcain321]

@@RedFail1-1having anxiety attacks over a video game is absolutely wild. Maybe the internet as a whole is not for you bud

[@SprayandPrayman22]

@@RedFail1-1 Ignore those other assholes. Good on you for cutting something out of your life that caused you such distress. I don't struggle with anxiety over the game but frustration and anger. My temper flares when playing War Thunder and while I do enjoy, I've learned to turn the game off when that starts happening. It's just not worth it.

[@l3igl3oi73]

War Thunder is a stagnant game. They can add all the vehicles they want but that won't make the game refreshing.

[@buttersstotch7981]

Happy people don't play War Thunder

[@gewitterhund3164]

I play 99% Air RB props (up to 7.0 max) And i feel just forgotten by the developers for years now. As if playing props is just an also-ran. That refers to maps, game mechanics and everything revolving this gamemode. Gonna miss you though. I wish you all the best. Thanks for your work. o7

[@ccramit]

Seriously. Props are where it's at. Jet gameplay is just too boring. Too many newbs buying premiums like the Su-11, never knowing how to play the game, and matches end in like 3 minutes. It's either your team stomps and you have 1 kill, or you are the only one left alive being chased by 8 guys.

[@tetronaut88]

Understandable.

[@pylet1223]

3:40 honestly i would love a "war thunder in a nutshell" kind of video with specifically your favorite moments in wt history

[@lucasmoreno2154]

I'm glad to see that you've grown out of the game, honestly. I also did grow out of the game but not by stop playing it, but rather prioritizing work, social life and such over the game - until some years ago when I was a teenager, I was so addicted to the game that I'd genuinely thought of waking up around 5 a.m., play until 6 a.m. and then go to school at 7 a.m. Was I forced to do so? Yeah! But thank god I was, honestly. This week I did play WT for more hours a day than I'd usually play, since my uni is on strike, but I did take this free time to actually start adjusting my virtual game life to my real life needs. I've learned how to do my chores FIRST and THEN play games as a resting time, which was quite hard for me to do, honestly (I'd often clean the house after 1 a.m. because I'd play the game for the entire day before doing my needs). With each step, we learn how to improve ourselves and grow out of bad habits, and sometimes that means to stop doing something that you never though you would.

[@thegiantrat4271]

I remember when I first got the F4U Corsair and literally just played that for hours. Even though I have jets and other high tier stuff now, I still find myself going to test drive the F4U and just flying around. You can't beat the sound and looks of a rugged WWII warbird.

[@Garviel_]

11 years for me and I've finally gave up last week. Never felt better

[@wedgeantilles3983]

Same. Played since closed beta and uninstalled for the first time last month. The cheating is just a massive epidemic now and I finally got sick of it, and yet you still have conspiracy theorists that still deny there is any despite the literal mountains of evidence to the contrary.

[@chloeholmes4641]

October 14th, 2014. Thats when i first made my account. And i cannot see myself continue this game for another 10 years even if they add my fav aircraft such as the Avro Arrow and the F-117 Nighthawk. This game has taken a lot from me both mentally, emotionally and physically. Im turning 26 in october 23rd and ill prolly hang up my hat for this game and prolly visit here and there but its taken a toll on my health as much as you Ash. Stay Strong Old Dogs! As Sergeant Roebuck once said: "Old, hmph. We're not even out of our twenties!"

[@Pappajoker11]

Thanks for everything, mate.

[@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862]

i've played this game for 7800 hours. i started the game in august 2020. i am insane... this gam entertains something inside of me that NOTHING else truly will. Teardown/Beamng-drive are close to doing the same. but just not quite what War thunder does to me... i am not sure if i would ever truly quit playing WT.

[@corvettezone1771]

I’m in the same boat. All that I’ve played and can play for the last few months is war thunder. I love BeamNG, but for some reason it can’t keep my interest for more than 30 minutes. Same with CS2, CoD, Battlefield, you name it. I’m literally just *stuck* in war thunder no matter how burnt out I feel

[@rahmanlinux9602]

You need dopamine detox dude

[@spingebill8551]

Same. I’m not sure how long I have played since I use the non-steam client, but it has to be something similar. And I started a little earlier. The best thing about warthunder is it’s technical to the point that there is genuine plausibility in what is happening, but it’s not overly realistic beyond casual play like DCS (also DCS planes cost money). That’s RB alone, if you value the arcadey stuff more you got AB, if you want realistic style controls, SB is the mode you want.

[@allorfh2495]

7800 hours in 4 year, omg.

[@ericksfk6797]

@@spingebill8551 exactly, WT is in the sweet spot (talking about gameplay mechanics for RB) that makes it very fun, it’s neither too realistic to be too technical and lose the fun aspect and it’s not too arcade to make it not skill dependent (except for top tier jets lmao)

[@dodo3555]

The main issue with War Thunder is something you mentioned. The issue is that people see the high octane jet planes and high tier tank combat but then put into a pre war tank that does 20kph. Then you get some tanks, but you get stuck in tier 3/4 grinding tanks for ever.

[@fightertales]

Do what you gotta do, brother. Happy your life is in a good place

[@elford3906]

As a almost 10 year vet I 100% understand what you mean and to be honest I feel the same way I started the game for ww2 and now that I've experienced the same play style over and over again I start to get tired of it. The game for me is only fun with friends. Loved your videos throughout the years and I'd like to say thank you for everything.

[@duneydan7993]

I took my second long term break a few weeks ago. The first one lasted 6 months. I'm a bomber player but my last air rb games I was so tired of getting shot down I flew in my XP-50 and instead of killing enemy bombers I just escorted them. That's when I knew it was time to stop.

[@jacksonrhodes1500]

“Interest in aviation was sky high” very punny ash

[@MotorcycleClinic_]

Thanks for all these years mate, it has been something. I'm turning 27 as well this year and have been playing war thunder over 10 years so i can relate to most of the stuff. Hope to see you again one day! :) Love you and good luck.

[@House_of_Schmidt]

16 vs 16 in Air RB really killed this game for me. I've played a lot less since that was added. Really need new game modes too like RB EC.

[@Arto300-yn5fv]

What do you mean since 16 vs 16 was added? Was it any different? I play since 2014, always was like this.

[@House_of_Schmidt]

@Arto300-yn5fv 16 vs 16 changed Air RB a lot, especially at the upper tiers.

[@SteelxWolf]

@@Arto300-yn5fvwe didnt have missiles and mixed matchmaking in 2014. The worst it got for a while was the CL13 being against sabres and a few captured premiums. That was it

[@IllustriousUnknown416]

@@SteelxWolfhaving those “””historical””” matchmaking was gold. The assymetrical balance where you gotta learn the weaknesses and strengths of said nation and aircraft. Today is just a mess. A clusterfuck. A gameplay much more based on luck and braindead behavior than actually knowing your nation, your plane and basic air combat maneuvers.

[@raized943]

​@@Arto300-yn5fv before, at least there was a positional dance you had to take and you also had to look at the enemy team. Think a lot, etc. Today? Everyone lawnmowing due to the grind (best way to earn rp is to throw yourself into the mix with high energy, kill a couple planes rinse and repeat) and then, maybe energy trap a noob with a climbing spiral and hammerhead into him. 😂

[@Hoenir]

I started end of 2012 and I have never been more demotivated or bored of War Thunder like now. It is just a chore to play Ground or Air. I log in Play 1 or 2 matches max and I just quit. I can't do it anymore.

[@jacobknight9007]

I was midway through writing a large comment but accidentally reloaded the page so I'm not restarting. I essentially said that War Thunder has been a large part of my life and I will always value that, but I've been drifting away, and IL-2 is my new WWII flight sim outlet. But also I appreciate your frankness in this video Ash. That's really the main reason I have watched your vids on occasion, less for the war thunder content (although I barely watch any War Thunder things these days). You sharing your honest thoughts in your videos, despite what some people might have to say is really cool. It's why I'm here. Sounds like you've certainly had you ups and downs, and the fact that you're able to share that really shows you're a top bloke. You seem very down to earth and I feel like if I met you irl you'd be a very genuine person. So keep it up I guess. Keep being genuine, and do what feels right for you when it comes to content, not what the algorithm wants. Sorry if I rambled, it's almost 2am and uni is getting to me, but cheers from a kiwi across the ditch

[@wh0dunnitgaming]

HEY M8, i'll keep being the drama llama in your absence! i hope most issues get sorted for you in a sufficient manner, cause it sucks not being able to do what you want to due to circumstances that are mainly beyond or outside of your direct control Take care of yourself!

[@Kaizuka-eg9fd]

thank you for opening up like you did about why your leaving, i hope it helped you feel better. I hope great things come your way mate life can get pretty crazy

[@EmitRelevart]

🔴I've been playing WT since 2015. Nothing bothers me more than wanting to play WWII tank battles, only to end up facing more modern tanks, not in the same era. And about 95% of the time it's an up-tier. I don't understand how those players I'm up-tiered against get the down-tiers to end up playing against me. :/ The battle modes are so stale. The map designs are colorless, depressing, boring, unrealistic, and don't even make sense. You have rivers and roads starting and ending in nonsensical places, one side of a map having a huge advantage over the other, etc. It would be nice to CAPTURE something important, like a bridge, a village, an airstrip, something sensical. But no, they keep adding features that rob my old computer of FPS and tanks that I have no interest in playing. Then they covered every map in Vaseline so you can't even climb out of some of the ditches, and block the edges of the maps so that you are forced to play in this very boring, restricted space with no cool locations (like there used to be, man you could climb mountains!). Sure, some of those places had an advantage, but players were smart enough to take you out, even if someone had to J-out and bomb you in a plane. And that's another thing, I love playing CAS but come on Gaijin, I shouldn't be able to get into a plane in under 2 minutes, then rearm my plane in 5 (rearming should take like 1+ mins). Games are too short to really get into the battle. 10-12 minutes on avg. is just too short, IMO. I think it's pretty clear that the devs never play the game. I worked for a gaming company for over 10 years and we played our games with the players. Not only because we wanted first-hand feedback and community input, but because we ourselves were gamers. Anyway, sorry for the winded rant. This game used to be a fun WWII tank game, but I rarely play it now, perhaps once or twice a week I'll squad up with my son. It's sad, to be honest because I miss the good old days and the potential of what I "thought" the game would become, instead of the nightmare it now is. 😞

[@themindakviking]

Haven't played WT in about a year. Gave up years of playtime, dozens of tech tree vehicles, thousands of dollars in premiums, and the utter soul crushing experience of it all. Feels good.

[@antypasandreas8435]

When I first discovered WT so many years ago around 2015 or so, I was almost immediately hooked and ended up playing a bit under 200 hours in it within the first year after discovering the game. I got to BR4-5 more or less, and then realized that unlocking new planes was all of a sudden taking a LOT longer. I had never spent a single penny on the game, and ended up deciding that I wasn't going to due to the sheer cost that I simply was not willing to dish out. I took a break from the game that lasted over a year. I came back, and things had only gotten worse. I knew it was more than possible to spend endless hours just grinding toward the next plane, because that's exactly what I did. Just 2 more games and I'll be that much closer, just one more game. And I realized I wasn't even enjoying the game, I was just playing it to get the next plane. And since then, I just decided I was going to play the game when I wanted to hop on and actually enjoy the game. I now I have 260 hours in the game, that is, over the last like 8-9 years, I have put around 60 hours into the game, and I am completely content with that. I never feel the weight of the grind. When I unlock a new plane, it's practically a surprise. I enjoy every second I play the game, and was only able to do that by letting go and really taking a step back and away from the grind as a primary objective. The reason I am unwilling to pay them a cent is because if the planes were really what I wanted, I could just spend a few hundred bucks and buy someone else's account with modern planes and premium vehicles unlocked. And it would be CHEAPER by thousands of dollars from what I can tell than spending the money to get a premium account and grinding out the planes myself, even IF I had the time. Some people in WT, like yourself, have put thousands upon thousands of hours into the game, and the stuff I hear from most people with that many hours is that really, they just don't even really enjoy simply playing the game anymore, and have spent so much money over the years it makes their eyes water. There's nothing wrong with spending the money if that's what you want to spend it on, but nobody should play a game they don't actively enjoy playing. Gaijin has locked in on that dopamine hit and brain chemistry to extract money from its players, and I for one will not give money to a company like that that is by nature exploitative and only out to make money off of you. It's a losing business strategy in the long run, and I expect the cash cows will stop printing them money at some point after they cross a certain threshold or boundary.

[@MrScott664]

For 9 years I’ve played this game. I was there when the only nations to choose from in ground were Russia and Germany. The game made amazing developments over its life, but over the last 5 months it’s just been a chore to play. It’s the same thing over and over again but now it’s frustrating to play when everything is compressed. Me just wanting to play 9.3 is awful as it’s an up tier 9/10 times. Jet combat is horrendous for not only compression but also 16v16 matches. This game turned from a slow paced thinking game to call of duty with tanks.

[@LeadHeadBOD]

Was just thinking about re-installing the game the other day. I am glad this video was recommended to me. Every single point you brought up drove me away from the game many times over the years. It's both sad and relieving to hear I am not alone, yet that nothing has changed in over 2 years. The part about the game not having a "soul" anymore kept getting more and more true with every update, I felt. Every time they did a short term event that could have been an interesting permanent game mode if refined, they immediately removed never to hear of it again. Ground sim which was my favourite game mode at one point, last I played it, became an absolute joke at literally every tier with copy-pasted vehicles on both teams, same ridiculous AB and small RB maps being pushed, it became the exact same team deathmatch just this time without parts of the HUD. To pour salt further in the wound - SB at the time didn't even count for Battlepass progression, so screw all the players who actually were trying to enjoy the game I guess. War Thunder had MANY problems more than 7 years ago. But despite its problems, it had character, it had a sense of identity. The quote I wrote on my Steam review many years ago still seems to ring true "War Thunder is not a good game. It is a meticulously created interactive Wikipedia with parts of the pages behind a paywall".

[@DraconixDG]

I do fear for the future of War Thunder, as the game itself has so much potential but the devs just don't really seem to care about the game but rather the profits... I also do agree to the part of people losing interest in propeller driven aircraft, I myself am only interested in jet aircraft and generally play better with them and enjoy using them more simply because I grew up with them and just like them more I really should have watched the entire video before commenting, I do wish you the best Ash and I completely understand your frustrations with the game and how life can be sometimes. I wish you the best and I really enjoyed the content you made.

[@accelerationquanta5816]

You're kidding yourself if you think there is any corporation that cares about anything beyond profits.

[@Iberium]

Literally the first video I ever see of you and it's about you leaving, posted 3 weeks ago. Too bad for me... Been playing the game off and on (more off) since 2014. Wish you the very best mate, hope everything works out for you!

[@corrodan2995]

Been playing this since 2015 and seen the changes its gone through. Overall AIR rb lost luster around 2019 for me. It stagnated horribly and compression didnt follow capabilities. The constant changes to weapons damage made it unfun to keep track of what was meta, and instead of focusing on introducing multiple aircraft or tanks at similar capabilities, they add new flavors of the month to drive premium sales for that nation. We complained about mixed battles endlessly back in the day and its just become the norm. Also I've just grown beyond the fixation, I have my career, and other passions.

[@handlesaresuperghey]

one of the old guard here, I took many breaks throughout my grind. The thing that got me to come back and stay back is that its just virtual machines, they don't matter when they die, no matter to what bullshit you come across. People fiend over score so so much they forget to enjoy a whole ass video game. But breaks from any game are good, I just think a lot of this community's problem is how serious they get over nothing.

[@iffracem]

Around a year ago I quit for good, after around 8 years (on and off) I used to take "sanity breaks" more and more often, for longer and longer periods. I took one break, and when I returned I just didn't enjoy it at all, there was nothing there, so I uninstalled right there and then, about a year ago. I too suffer heavily from chronic, treatment resistant depression (no medication or procedures has worked, even ECT does nothing... even tried microdosing magic mushies) Been this way for decades. Look after yourself, put yourself first and I hope for all the best for you.

[@Parched_Leech]

Dont worry man! These circumstances are out of your control and we can all see War thunder has lost it's "soul" as you mentioned.

[@andreassk]

Since 2013 I stoped playing after 6 months each year. Still managed to make 8000 + hrs. There is always reason to take break from any game and especially from WT. But there is always reason to come back. 1 reason being that there isnt any other game like WT.

[@Space_Reptile]

showing footage of the aheago maus while talking about how the game has lost is soul is just perfect

[@jengac5803]

Take care Ash, enjoyed your content and your views on WT and how it developed/develops!

[@lars9966]

war thunder for me been a game in the past 2 years where i get in the mood to play it, start the game, cant choose what plane to fly and just quit it.

[@c.v.4070]

Play Flyout, simple as Also your accent isn't that bad, it's unique

[@egonieser]

Am I the only one who thinks WT actually looked BETTER in the early days than now? Lot more gritty and realistic

[@youdontneedtoknow6621]

It’s sad, I know I’ll follow you ash and eventually become bored. Keep strong and look after yourself

[@silmarian]

This is pretty much why I left the game two years ago. I still play from time to time, but usually pretty low tier because I’ve gotten so rusty. But even when I was playing regularly I really didn’t enjoy playing high tier.

[@Rexxie44]

I've been playing since very late 2013, and yeah, I feel you on the burnout. I came because I love/loved WW2 stuff and all the fun things that came with that. As I play in recent years, I find much less fun being had in mid-late WW2. This constant focus on shoveling in more and more modern things, constantly screws WW2 further and further into obscurity. We go from back in the day with B-25's frontline bombing to Skyraiders from the 60s going in 1940s tech battles, and just dominating with ease because modern CAS capabilities. That or this incessant rationale that certain ammo types and vehicles belong down below. ATGMs and HEATFS fighting against tanks from the early to mid 40s is constantly a burn to me. While I don't inherently rage, I do sigh as I remember a better time with WT, where it was just WW2 vehicles fighting other ones. It was all about skill and familiarity. Using armor against adjacent/ or counteracting vehicle types. It frustrates me when I know these vehicles are made to counter specific types of munitions n such and then they get pummeled into the ground because a vehicle/round from a decade ahead is able to abuse my vehicles with relative ease. No matter what you do, you cannot avoid the modern fixation by Gaijin. It creeps into places it does not belong and you're helpless to do anything against them. I remember when the Maus, and IS-4M were the top of the food chain back in the day. Late heavies fighting each other, at most. Not Marders, BMPs, or PT-76's with their HEATFS or ATGMs.. It's also so tiresome and rather saddening. I don't even know why I play anymore either. My main motivator, as an older player, is to follow grind events as they come, since they give me an objective to just do. That or squash out other vehicles in my tree that I may have not gotten yet or have been added.

[@WOLFER.]

I'm someone who only enjoys simulator mode, but your speak facts, they are ignoring the sim community, I mostly make content about df's clips, but I'm gonna move over to semi educational gameplay. Either way, the fact of the matter is, Sim has a lot of issue, that we have been begging to be fixed, and I fear this video will be ignored by them. I don't have the money nor the time to get DCS, so War thunder is all I got and so many others too. I've even started slowing moving away from War thunder, and I don't want to. They are missing the mark. PS I got an idea for a market place so that console could aslo enjoy skins and decals, without having to gamble insane amounts of money for just for that one skin they actually want. Here is the market place idea, maybe you could let me improve this, and possibly suggest it to then one day. -- InGame Market Place -- The way this IN GAME market place would work, is you would by GE, so Sony still gets the cut, you use GE or SL you earned for things, so say for example a skin on the gaijin market place worth 2 gaijin coin (2 bucks) would be worth 2 bucks worth of GE, in this market, there would be a minimum amount, and maximum amount so they dont exploit it for each skin and decal. This removes the market place, but for pc it just gets moved to the in game place, and console gets access to it.

[@corvettezone1771]

Semi educational gameplay is a good idea. Not much of it exists, and it would be nice if us sim enjoyers could get even a few extra players.

[@daemonoid9836]

Thank you for the trip, Ash! You are always genuine and this video is no exception. And that's why I...we are here. I will keep watching what you post and keep enjoying your style. I wish you good health above all and I wish you to find renewed drive and enjoyment. And qhen you do find the spark again, do let us, your stranger-friends-followers, know. We would love to hear what you are up to :) wishing you all the best from Europe!

[@splendid9910]

I wish you the best man, I'm still hooked and I'm going to try and see the game through to top tier, and I genuinely hope the developers somehow rekindle their passion for adding some more variety to the game, or at least try to. They have done well last year, this year is looking to be the same as the last, or at least I hope they do this.

[@dixievfd55]

I've never had nightmares of my time as a volunteer firefighter, but you never forget some of the things you've seen. It was awesome fun and I miss it, but probably won't go back to it especially as the old department dissolved this year due to inability to meet training requirements and general lack of interest from the public for volunteering.

[@NoisterPro]

Friend : Man i am quitting war thunder Me : ok, be ready for ground realistic battles tommorow

[@Osean_Kitty]

I've hit the point where I feel like I've accomplished with what I can grind for and now looking for different games to get my vehicular combat needs, DCS, Falcon BMS, IL2 1946. I'll play it from time to time to grind out other nations other than the US since that's the nation I main. I wish we got more modes besides team death match.

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

I just wish we had Sims like DCS but that don't require thousands of dollars of hardware to get into. Games like that existed in the PS2 era, but simply don't today. Well, besides WT I suppose.

[@Trollthunder101]

goodluck man, hopefully will see your content once your better, or if you do return, cant wait to see new genres, and good luck in life

[@mati-yr1ym]

My motivation to play this game is getting every air and ground tree spaded. I always thought that the grind is the worst part of this game, but recently I realized grind is the reason why people play it.

[@Bonk997]

im done too for now ill come back when life gets worse

[@DardoUltimate]

You will miss the dopamine rush, you will not miss the feeling of wasted time after 4 hours.

[@GTGokuisdabomb]

I got bored of top tier when R73 were added, I love playing props now and I’ve had such a good time grinding props in the German, Italian, and Japanese tech tree. Thanks for everything. Stay strong.

[@Opalthira]

I started playing in like 2020 and grinded most of the tank tech trees to 10.0. Kinda wish i didnt spend money on premiums might have been able to enjoy the game a little longer.

[@BohemianCloud35]

I love warthunder, I grew up with only a PS2 Untill 2016. That's when I bought an Xbox one to play GTAO with friends, played the shit out of it then my mom bought me an old Optiplex computer with a wee little i3-2100 cpu, 4gb of ram, and a GT710. I downloaded WT in 2017 and it was everything I ever wanted from my PS2 days, airplanes, dogfights, destruction, and good graphics (Even on medium graphics at 18fps) it drove me to learn more about computers, I upgraded to a I5-2400, 16gb of DDR3, and a GTX1050ti. I was now able to play on high at ~60-ish fps, but when new power came out I got tanked to a JITTERY (

[@vermillion.__-_.]

thousands of hours, of pain, and upset, has come down to me, being fed up of the constant new updates with modern stuff...helis killed it for me, when they got added

[@jonathonspears7736]

As a long time player myself, I haven't played the game since January of this year. I will probably play again in the June update just because of Fox-3s and how they will change the way the game plays (hopefully). WT really needs new gamemodes that support more than just the TDM style of air battles. I would love to see a 4v4 gamemode. Or a bomber focused gamemode to make them useful and enjoyable. WT has become stale, and that is a huge problem. Its needs something new, and i don't mean more and more vehicles.

[@blitz8425]

I just keep playing my p-61c-1. It's challenging and rewarding, the tier isn't garbage. It's easy to sit down and play 4 or 5 games and then be done for the day. Ive finished the American tech tree just flying that plane.

[@WatchMysh]

Take care mate! Thanks for everything and I wish all the best for you! ❤

[@Ranga.luka.]

crazy how i have only been playing for a year and im nearly an adult, and i can understand this, especially being australian as well, idk if this is the same or different in other countries but life has just completely blurred out WT in my life, the stress of work and saving money just to feel i have to spend it WT is honestly too depressing for too really be passionate and play the game ike my first time 7 years ago but really only "started" playing 1-2 years ago. Ash, we all think youre an amazing personality to listen too and being someone in this community is the best thing i have stumbled upon, so much love for you, from the ranga in VIC

[@LLachs283]

That doesnt sound healthy

[@jonathanbarkett2084]

These past two years I’ve tried my hardest to get to top tier, I made it to Soviet 9.0 and I’ve been stuck for 6-7 months. I’m not a great player but I’m certainly not bad. But I feel like the competitive level at that BR is so tuff to where it’s not fun anymore

[@Anirossa]

I feel you, if I want a blast now I take out the Me 109G in MSFS and do a cross countries flight, going airport to airport over hours. Started WT same time as you. If I open WT now, I play topteir, it gets boring quickly for reasons mentioned and I stop playing it

[@keithbaker1951]

I love your channel ash and I'm so glad you didn't self cancel. I struggle with depression on a regular basis and have seriously considered and even tried it twice. I am glad I didn't succeed. Find your peace brother. Love life and yourself

[@Chad_Thundernuts]

Never a bad idea to take a good long break. I had to in order to focus on my health, which my War Thunder addiction was having a negative impact on. it's just not worth running yourself into the ground over a video game.

[@noahgrove2046]

Started playing in 2016. Patch 1.66 was the first one I played. To this day I would still rather play 3.0 and below with my brothers in a squad rather than try and touch top tier. I got the German MiG-29 just to have it but hardly touch jets anymore. This game still holds a special place in my heart but it's been sad to see what's become of it.

[@tankdempsey558]

10:15 that bob semple tank game play made me so happy

[@exceededcircle1]

Hey ash, new sub from this video. I have been playing war thunder since 2016 or so and loved the game too. I still play just because no other game can suck me in the same way. I am also a ww2 player and love the older tanks and planes and the skill and gameplay styles associated with the older vehicles. Now it just feels like you are going from one grind event to the next grind event, and if you want to complete anything you can't have a life outside of warthunder or you have to have the money to speed things along. I have cut back a lot as well and feel better for it. Good luck to you and will watch any vids you want to put out.

[@kazsmaz]

The sad thing about WW2 tier is that you just get seal clubbed by XP50s or Wyverns when you want to play something interesting

[@donny5302]

I put a comment on your video on the game getting stale that still holds how i feel (was like a week ago lmfao) I wish they catered more to the overlooked aspects of ww2, like recon aircraft, mine laying, etc.

[@PerciusLive]

Honestly, i cleared one tree, spaded it in its entirety and collected all its premiums/limited vehicles. Im already satisfied and waiting for the next content

[@GamerKahn]

I just want to say, its fine for you to walk away. take the break you need. get well. I just want to say that it was you, Magz, Jingles that really got me into WT, and as a content creator in this game. Thank you for inspiring me and making me fall in love with this game. please play whatever game makes you happy and get better. I do hope one day I get to meet you and take a pic of one of my heroes. Take care. Much love from Malaysia :)

[@ianp1012]

Take the break my man, you deserve it. And when you come back either to doing this or to playing with friends and other creators, we'll be waiting. Fly high and fair skies! 07

[@Juwulrythief]

I just uninstalled it yesterday. I realized I just wasn’t having fun anymore. I’m gonna go look for other games to play to try and fill in, or maybe find new hobbies! I sense that this will be for the better. :3

[@zahwa242]

our underwater cable here got some problem that it prevent playing war thunder smoothly, high ping and PL making me and my friend retired (for now) from war thunder too, we are planning to play Fallout 76 Together tho, you should too

[@vinter5256]

Love to hear your voice give historical details and development of aircraft that come and are in warthunder. I understand aircraft was your passion love hear your voice discuss stuff though

[@Polaventris]

I can totally relate. Joined War Thunder in 2015 and during the last 1-2 years lost the interest to the game with the constant pushing up the roof and the devs abandoning development of the actual gameplay.

[@Radlerstriker]

Good luck out there pal, I'll be waiting for you when you come back

[@Veselinius_III]

Good luck mate! We will still be here when you feel the need to share some content!

[@timihendrix01]

My interest in WW2 was due to its scope and scale, a knock down drag out total war between world powers where whole populations and economies were mobilized. Other conflicts since have been knife fights in a phone booth by comparison.

[@pillford4226]

Yeah dude, i have nearly 7000 hours, have purchased premiums and premium time. My highest plane is a 10.3 mig21 in germany. And my highest non squadron vehicle for tanks is 9.3 im no where near close to the top of the tech tree. Been playing since 2016 and just... Warthunder could be a good game. I have so many ideas for it that i think could be fun. Honestly if warthunder fails in the next decade, i really hope im rich enough so i can buy and revamp it. The skeleton of an amazing game is absolutely there. But its hindered by money. I can understand why you wanna take a break, ive taken a break for a year. Im also glad your life is starting to go better dude. Hopefully the game still has it's best days ahead, but the farther we move, the less likely that seems :(

[@kimbonzky]

Still enjoy the game, but these days I mostly do 1-2 hours in airsim, flying MiG-21s, Phantoms and Spitfires, not at all how much I used to play.

[@RitchiROB]

I left WT at the end of 2023 because: 1. The game lost its "vibe" of the "seriousness" of warfare Hell, even the old COD World at War had 10 tonnes more atmosphere than the current game. 2. The game is not updated. I mean, adding 5 "new" models every update is not an update, in a global sense nothing changes. They got so carried away with the "major new vehicle of the patch" that they have so much vehicles in their game (they pass it off as a plus) that it's hard for them to work with it, they don't want to pay attention to old vehicles like bombers that don't have a cockpits. I'm just sick of flying RB mode on a spitfire in Vietnam against the US and Japan. Damm, no, I don't want to go to SB mod, what I require was in BR originally. I want new modes and semi-historical standoffs. Rank 1-4 WW2 Rank 5 Cold War, Korean War. Rank 6-7 Cold War, Vietnam War Rank 8+ I don't care edit: Also, I'm not interested in high ranks, I love the aviation of the first half of WW2 - the developers just forgot about it. (I haven't watched the video yet) maybe you'll say this. But I'll agree with the most popular comment under the video, hell, this game makes it feel like the game with the most untapped potential in the gaming industry. A lot of people don't leave game and say: The game is unique, I have nowhere to go. It's better to have nothing than to eat shit - my opinion. edit2: Just finished watching the video, in all my time I haven't met someone with a completely identical stance on the game as mine. I agree with you on WEB%

[@roverkill84]

18:00 the T14 Ping 300 gameplay was criminal

[@williamfranklin6836]

It sucks as someone who's probably spent upwards of 2k on the game over the years and now I find myself barely playing

[@Darkhorse1239xf]

Take brakes, I’ve never quit but I have went on long breaks

[@RARDingo]

Yep, I walked away almost 6 months ago. My blood pressure has returned to normal & my wife says I'm just generally a happier person. I did not think the game was having such an impact, but the constant stress of dealing with half-arsed game mechanics, racist little shit-bags in chat & dodgy as fuck servers was taking a toll. Manor Lords & GT7 take up the bulk of my gaming time now & I am very happy about that.

[@thesnazzycomet]

I love the older stuff in War Thunder too - WW2 - to EARLY cold war is the best

[@LithuanianBadger]

Im done with warthunder after 10y too ❤ Good luck Ash🎉