It's hilarious how all 3 Cait's predictions actually came true! (ALL CAIT SITH PREDICTIONS EXPLAINED

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00:00 All Cait Sith predictions explained by scenes Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Remake 2024
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is an upcoming action role-playing game developed and published by Square Enix, scheduled to release for PlayStation 5 on February 29, 2024. It is a sequel to Final Fantasy VII Remake, and the second in a planned trilogy of games remaking the 1997 PlayStation game Final Fantasy VII.
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@enigmind1
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@-._____- 2 ай бұрын
You're not getting a dime from me
@enigmind1
@enigmind1 2 ай бұрын
@@-._____-Why?
@BrianYix
@BrianYix 2 ай бұрын
In between the time where Cait says " Can you not just raise it a wee bit higher" and Barret Saying "Screw You Cat". Didcha catch that?
@knaz7468
@knaz7468 2 ай бұрын
Cait's VA made that character so much fun.
@xxcrono
@xxcrono 2 ай бұрын
nailed it on the accent, I love it
@gammers6550
@gammers6550 2 ай бұрын
Idk If it was me or what but the audio mix on him with default settings he was so quiet compared to the others. Though your right on the money the va did amazing with caits character!!
@theEisbergmann
@theEisbergmann 2 ай бұрын
yeah... trying to fake an irish accent but being unable to pronounce Cait Sith correctly...
@ryanhorton9594
@ryanhorton9594 2 ай бұрын
​@@theEisbergmann not Irish. Scottish. Gaelic(?)
@theEisbergmann
@theEisbergmann 2 ай бұрын
@@ryanhorton9594 Well Gaelic is irish and scottish... but yes - scottish. Irish would be Sidhe instead of Sith, but the pronunciation stays the same.
@phantomthiefjoker939
@phantomthiefjoker939 2 ай бұрын
Here's what I learned from Batman: "Every riddle has a double meaning."
@diegoanthonyherrera9952
@diegoanthonyherrera9952 2 ай бұрын
😅
@eljugadorescaldenc4002
@eljugadorescaldenc4002 13 күн бұрын
Thanks to remember the great teachings of Batman.
@parasitone0814
@parasitone0814 2 ай бұрын
I like how no one seems to see that cloud doesn't say his classic speech describing his feelings in this part because in the rebirth reality he cries, but we can see brief flashes that do show cloud going on about his speech
@ssoo8338
@ssoo8338 2 ай бұрын
You're right, and I'm positive we'll get to see the actual scene with the speech during the third part, as well as him putting her in the water
@kaitlynhernandez6340
@kaitlynhernandez6340 2 ай бұрын
@@ssoo8338 I don't wanna see either one of those scenes in 4K 😭😭😭
@gamerprince-tl5hg
@gamerprince-tl5hg 2 ай бұрын
fuck ur right
@albertosalguero9497
@albertosalguero9497 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, when he gets all right thanks to Tifa and the lifestream he will remember how Zack and Aeris died in front of him and his blocked trauma will start healing. They are doing great with Cloud's arch, in the original felt a bit rushed but shocked too, this time it's so well done about mental health, getting help and this, he is going to have a great arch to feel better because of their deaths.
@BlackStarSeries
@BlackStarSeries 2 ай бұрын
@@kaitlynhernandez6340part 3 will be a PS6 exclusive watch.
@solracstormhunter3023
@solracstormhunter3023 2 ай бұрын
4:04 "Cloud, what is it you cherish the most? Give me the pleasure of taking it away". - Sephiroth, Advent Children
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 2 ай бұрын
"Aerith, Aerith, Tifa, Marlene, Danzel, Zack" - Cloud Strife, Advent Children.
@MrHoll87
@MrHoll87 2 ай бұрын
"You know, I pity you. You just don't get it at all. There's not a thing I don't cherish." Favorite line not just of that movie, but of ALL time.
@solracstormhunter3023
@solracstormhunter3023 2 ай бұрын
@@MrHoll87 Followed by the the most epic version of Omnislash in the history of Final Fantasy.
@JWeezy57
@JWeezy57 2 ай бұрын
That quote always went hard AF
@aureliacortez3625
@aureliacortez3625 Ай бұрын
The original will always be a masterpiece!
@tolkienblack
@tolkienblack 2 ай бұрын
I have come to learn that if there’s a fortune teller in a story and they seem silly they are usually batting 1.000
@mrtnite9780
@mrtnite9780 2 ай бұрын
Yeah like that looney professor trelawney in Harry Potter. She only ever made 2 predictions in her entire career, but she hit 2 homeruns in her 2 innings at bat 😂
@tolkienblack
@tolkienblack 2 ай бұрын
@@mrtnite9780 she did 2 prophecies where she went into a trance that came true but she made a lot of small predictions that came true too. She predicted dumbledore and Voldemorts death. But she thought she was predicting Harry’s death
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical Ай бұрын
@@tolkienblack It's like Yoda said in the Empire Strikes Back: "Difficult to see. Always emotions, the future." The future is easy to predict in broad strokes, it's just ALSO easy to get the specific details wrong at the same time leading to "incorrect" predictions that are actually true, the prophet is just not getting their interpretation right. "A prophecy that, misinterpreted, may be." -Yoda, Episode 2 or 3 (I forget which)
@jamesgravil9162
@jamesgravil9162 Ай бұрын
@@SubduedRadical "Always in motion, the future" is what Yoda actually said.
@katherineelizabeth3608
@katherineelizabeth3608 12 күн бұрын
A Link to the Past disliked that
@martas.9804
@martas.9804 2 ай бұрын
The first prediction has nothing to do with Aerith (not to mention that, if it did, it would contradict the last prediction). The first prediction is about Cait Sith himself. They "throw caution to the wind" by trusting him (knowing he is ShinRa), he betrays them, but because they trusted in him in the end he comes through and pleasantly surprises them by showing up in a twist (he is "good" after all) and saving them from the Temple of the Ancients.
@MrHoll87
@MrHoll87 2 ай бұрын
Sort of related to Cait Sith, I've been wondering who the mysterious leader of the Wutai is, some person who never shows his face, even Yuffie has never seen him. I don't know if this a new subplot to this remake series of if it's part of the OG game because I never played the OG, but I kinda wouldn't be surprised if the leader of Wutai is that guy in Shinra who's controlling Cait Sith, the one guy who had a problem with dropping the Sector 7 plate. That or maybe it's Sephiroth, pitting Wutai and Shinra against each other on purpose to distract them while he pursues his own goals.
@martas.9804
@martas.9804 2 ай бұрын
@@MrHoll87 The guy you are thinking of is Reeve. He is not Viceroy Sarruf (the mysterious leader of Wutai, as you called it). Sarruf is Rufus. It's made even more obvious in Japanese, where his name is literally an anagram. This subplot is not in the OG (the Wutai war never returns in the OG at all), but it is a call-back to a subplot in Before Crisis (Rufus was giving off information to the AVALANCHE branch that was working with the Wutai rebellion in order to undermine his father - This was already alluded to in Intermission as well, in the Remake series. Ultimately ShinRa found out there was a traitor amongst them and blamed the Turks. They were hunt down by ShinRa while, at the same time, they were trying to find Zack and Cloud (who were also being hunted down at this time) to try and save them (as seen in Crisis Core but, more prominiently, in Last Order). They failed to get to them on time (which is touched upon by Reno in DFFOO when he reunites with Zack) and eventually disbanded in order to try and not get killed by ShinRa, too. Only Tseng, Reno and Rude decide to stay and they are sentenced to death. This is when Rufus decides to intervene and comes clean to his father about the truth, effectively saving the Turks from certain death. This is why Tseng, Reno and Rude are so loyal to Rufus (and not to ShinRa as a company per se, exactly), as that is the only demand Rufus made of them. So yeah, that's who Viceroy Sarruf is. And I can't wait to see how that entire mess develops in Part 3, since things never went things far at all in the original Compilation.
@jdzspace33
@jdzspace33 2 ай бұрын
Well said, I thought that was pretty obvious. I'm surprised to see people think he was talking about Aerith, since ....you know, she died. and if he did create an alternative timeline, it is one where the world ends since she needs the powers of being in the lifestream to defeat Sephiroth, which is why she always had to die. Either way, it's not a pleasant surprise by any measure.
@martas.9804
@martas.9804 2 ай бұрын
@@jdzspace33 It is pretty obvious. However, I disagree with you. Aerith does not need to die, and Rebirth made that extremely clear. The only reason for her death to be "necessary" was that it was the only way for her to "control" the Lifestream, something that Rebirth has just retconned. She can clearly control the Lifestream while being alive. So yeah, I do think she is alive in a world Cloud created by deflecting Sephiroth's sword and I'll be very surprised if they are not reunited at the end (though given Rebirth affinity system, I also believe it will probably be up to the player how all that goes). Regardless, this trilogy will only matter if it actually makes a difference, since, if not, humanity will still be dead in 500 years. /shrugs
@jdzspace33
@jdzspace33 2 ай бұрын
@martas.9804 but every world where Aerith is alive, the planet is dying. They showed that in every one where she survived. She could see what all the other Aerith's saw. That's why she knew the end was coming, but she had to die so Aerith prime could do her job. That's why she couldn't move freely between them and even take cloud with her until after she died. She always has to do in order to save the planet. That core to the story
@tylermurray4732
@tylermurray4732 2 ай бұрын
The first playthrough I didn’t notice but my second I was like hold up! All that ACTUALLY happens!!!
@NerdGeekTalk
@NerdGeekTalk 2 ай бұрын
No it didn’t
@z-rossi3672
@z-rossi3672 2 ай бұрын
FF7 multiverse and it seemed like aerith could always look through the veil, next games going to be wild
@NerdGeekTalk
@NerdGeekTalk 2 ай бұрын
@@z-rossi3672 no she can’t
@z-rossi3672
@z-rossi3672 2 ай бұрын
​@@NerdGeekTalk so how did Zack join the battle and how did she find cloud to help him fight seph?
@k1ngtote96
@k1ngtote96 2 ай бұрын
factsss bro same here 🙋‍♂️💯
@jackalclone1
@jackalclone1 2 ай бұрын
Something I don't see talked about enough is how when cloud calls out to Aerith, two black whispers immediately part the wall of whispers, as though they're responding to his wish
@LtSMASH324
@LtSMASH324 Ай бұрын
Sephiroth wants Cloud to think he has a chance, just to crush his hopes even harder, so his whispers let him through.
@36inc
@36inc Ай бұрын
assume sephiroth is always fucking with cloud. still spiteful he was killed by the last person he even thought of.
@NeoWolves7
@NeoWolves7 Ай бұрын
I assume cuz since supposedly sephiroth gave cloud “his blessing” he gave some of the power to cloud 🤷
@HelloRando
@HelloRando 19 күн бұрын
@@LtSMASH324 But then the portal that gets opened up is white, like Aeriths portal in Remake when she remakes Sephiroths portal. So who makes the portal in the forgotten capitol 👀
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 2 ай бұрын
2:17 Is no one gonna talk about how Cid is humming the original Final Fantasy theme song
@MrReubenTishkoff
@MrReubenTishkoff 2 ай бұрын
I noticed it first time. Found that a nice touch! ❤
@johndouglas1294
@johndouglas1294 2 ай бұрын
Most haven't even played it to recognize it. 😅
@danielc7923
@danielc7923 2 ай бұрын
I only recognized it cuz of XII
@drewtheunspoken3988
@drewtheunspoken3988 19 күн бұрын
"That which you most cherish." Advent Children: "You just don't get it. There isn't a single thing I don't cherish!"
@MrHoll87
@MrHoll87 2 ай бұрын
The rainbows in the background give a clue as to what reality Cloud is in. Rainbows = Aerith's "alive". No rainbows = Aerith's dead. When Aerith in lying in a pool of her own blood, no rainbows. When Aerith caresses Cloud's cheek and tells him it's okay, no blood, but rainbows. This could be hugely helpful to telling realities apart in the future.
@Nadstar1969
@Nadstar1969 2 ай бұрын
Where r the rainbows
@Nadstar1969
@Nadstar1969 2 ай бұрын
Nvm
@tvsoup4405
@tvsoup4405 Ай бұрын
Opposite actually world ends when she lives
@MrHoll87
@MrHoll87 Ай бұрын
@@tvsoup4405 Lmao No. That's not what I was saying.
@36inc
@36inc Ай бұрын
kinda- were experiencing it fractured from clouds perspective so anything that confuses us is most likely a sephiroth manipulation- to do to the audience what sephy does to cloud- misdirects.
@trentdehut6226
@trentdehut6226 2 ай бұрын
Wow I never would have figured out those cryptic predictions with out this. At least the first two anyway
@Tahkaullus01
@Tahkaullus01 2 ай бұрын
The one I struggled with was the first one. The other two were pretty self explanatory
@trentdehut6226
@trentdehut6226 2 ай бұрын
Guess I'm just dumb
@phantomthiefjoker939
@phantomthiefjoker939 2 ай бұрын
"Every riddle has a double meaning." -Batman
@PeppeDAngelo-kq2ng
@PeppeDAngelo-kq2ng 2 ай бұрын
Hint at the true ending. Need to maximize the affinity with all characters ​@@Tahkaullus01
@johngoldfield6602
@johngoldfield6602 2 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that as new Rebirth players you wouldn't know what those first two meant but the 3rd one especially as an OG FF7 players would immediately understand it, even Cloud reacted to it as if he knows.
@Madchimpz
@Madchimpz Ай бұрын
For the third one I think even a lot of gamers would know what it means without playing the original FF7. Aerith's death is so iconic in video games that people that never played FF knew about it.
@phantomthiefjoker939
@phantomthiefjoker939 2 ай бұрын
1st Riddle: "Things are looking up, so throw caution to the wind. Put your trust in others, and the last-minute twist may pleasantly suprise you." Answer: -Trust your friends and the "right whispers". 2nd Riddle: "Watch your belongings. Lucky color: black." Answer: -Black Materia 3rd Riddle: "Seek and you are sure to find. But alas, you shall forever lose what you cherished most." Answer: -A very special friend: Aerith.
@Samuel_Loegan
@Samuel_Loegan 2 ай бұрын
Aerith is all our special friend :(
@johnkyl123
@johnkyl123 2 ай бұрын
You had it very close, but the third is actually his memories. He doesn’t cherish Aerith most. He’s canonically by lore conflicted between tifa and Aerith. It’s solely due to the time dilation, that cloud loves Aerith in place of zack. Opposed to his original love, tifa. Search and you shall find. What do we search for? Our destiny, nostalgia. The feeling of being alive. What do we fear most to lose, our memories. What makes us who we are. Cloud’s canonical battle, is with himself. He fears losing himself most.
@timonalexandr151
@timonalexandr151 2 ай бұрын
Dude, you're a delusional Tifa fan.
@emperorpalpatine4953
@emperorpalpatine4953 2 ай бұрын
​@johnkyl123 😂😂 just stop man.
@johnkyl123
@johnkyl123 2 ай бұрын
@@emperorpalpatine4953 … Stop what exactly?
@Bard0ck17
@Bard0ck17 2 ай бұрын
You are right. The decision to save her , did indeed create another world. It's also told in the game that every choice creates a new world. So maybe she can come back from that world like Zack? And that's why Cloud asks her in the end if she will be able to go back and she says it's like a second home.
@kizugawa07
@kizugawa07 2 ай бұрын
Seems like you got this one Bang on
@beefsquatch5352
@beefsquatch5352 2 ай бұрын
One thing we know. We're still going to see her in part 3. I also have a feeling she's going to help Cloud find his real self. The remake obviously points out that Cloud and Aerith have strong feelings for each other.
@TheNFromO
@TheNFromO 2 ай бұрын
the second home quote is a mistranslation, it actually states "this is the land of the cetra". They are multiple different mistranslations in rebirth. So we prob have wait a couple of weeks until the whole game is truly translated accurately
@madelinemcmillan4020
@madelinemcmillan4020 2 ай бұрын
so Aerith is just gunna be Gamora 2.0. remember when the themes of life and death were taken seriously in this franchise??
@tylocook
@tylocook 2 ай бұрын
I had a feeling she just meant going back to the forgotten capital as a 2nd home, as she is going back to pray to the planet to stop meteor (which strangely hasn't even been cast yet) ​@@TheNFromO
@Larkawolfsgirl
@Larkawolfsgirl 2 ай бұрын
I cracked up about the black fortune because it felt like a fortune cookie that doesn't give real fortunes. But it really was a fortune!
@spenguin5179
@spenguin5179 2 ай бұрын
"a last-minute twist may pleasantly surprise you" might also refer to *SPOILER* Zack's/Aerith's arrival in the final battle
@Samuel_Loegan
@Samuel_Loegan 2 ай бұрын
Heck yeah that's awesome 👌
@npquanh30402
@npquanh30402 2 ай бұрын
It is not that surprised when they heavily use multiverse throughout the game.
@user-ki4no3ly5
@user-ki4no3ly5 2 ай бұрын
But then you still lose what you cherished most 😭
@fabesey2016
@fabesey2016 2 ай бұрын
I mean I'd still say the fortune was incorrect for me ; it wasn't a pleasant surprise, more like audible groaning 🤣
@TailsFan
@TailsFan 2 ай бұрын
@@fabesey2016 Well, it seemed pleasant to Cloud. 🤷‍♀
@datboigavi4151
@datboigavi4151 2 ай бұрын
I put some time thinking about these predictions and realized something interesting that might come up in Part 3: Cait's predictions might actually be in chronological order. The 1st [Cloud getting help from the party to create an alternate world where he saves aerith] and 2nd [Cloud being in possession of a powered up Black Materia) predictions make sense as they happen one right after the other, which means that the third prediction: "Seek and you are sure to find. But alas, you shall forever lose what you cherish most" would not have happened yet. If this turns out to be true, it sets up an interesting question for the next game as for what Cloud will lose. Just a fun thought experiment. Thanks for the vid!
@tolkienblack
@tolkienblack 2 ай бұрын
Spoiler alert: He loses his identity
@Nexuish
@Nexuish 2 ай бұрын
@@tolkienblacknailed it.
@tvsoup4405
@tvsoup4405 Ай бұрын
No guys, advent children he cherrishes everything. He seeks a way to save aerith, finds it, but the world ends and he loses everything.
@ErenDenizMert
@ErenDenizMert Ай бұрын
​@@tvsoup4405He does not lose everything tho
@ErenDenizMert
@ErenDenizMert Ай бұрын
​@@tolkienblackAt the point of the prediction he wont lose his identity.
@clovermite
@clovermite 2 ай бұрын
Sephiroth delivering his lines with all the passion of an elcor: "I feel these emotions so keenly. You can tell because I said so."
@drewtheunspoken3988
@drewtheunspoken3988 19 күн бұрын
Genuine amusement: I hadn't thought of it like that.
@joshg.6315
@joshg.6315 2 ай бұрын
Cloud isn’t the most reliable source of information. I wonder if he just hallucinated saving Aerith, kind of like several other pieces of his past.
@r0mit
@r0mit 2 ай бұрын
I saw it as a representation of what Sephiroth is trying to achieve. Fate is his to manipulate. Even if you save Aerith, he can just 'fix' it by changing fate back to her death simply by making that world a reality. He wants to create a single world in the multiverse, but he wants the power to pick and choose which plotlines from each world exist, thus putting him in the best possible position.
@joseluisgarcia6251
@joseluisgarcia6251 2 ай бұрын
Thats what I took when I first played it
@mrplayfulshade1038
@mrplayfulshade1038 2 ай бұрын
Yeah because the weird static flash happens and then she's dead. Typically that flash only happen in regards to Cloud's memories. So yeah I dont wanna say for certain what happened because Cloud is unreliable again in a different way. It's great.
@theEisbergmann
@theEisbergmann 2 ай бұрын
He is definitely not hallucinating Aerith, as Nanaki notices her touch in the end.
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical Ай бұрын
Pretty sure it's a timeline split. We're shown Zack several times in the story when Cloud isn't around (the parallel timeline that splits into 3 - he goes to Shinra Tower and dies, he goes to save Biggs and dies, he goes to the Church and finds Sephiroth). Considering NONE OF THAT is from Cloud's perspective, and Cloud isn't even around for most of it, we can assume that's all true events (not hallucinations), just happening in a separate timeline. Then that Zack (the one that goes to the Church) helps Cloud fight in the battle with Sephiroth. This means THAT must also be a true event, not a hallucination. The stuff we see from Zack's perspective we can know is real since that Zack exists independent of Cloud's mind (he's not just a figment of Cloud's imagination). We also know he's not being manipulated/mind controlled/made to see hallucinations by Jenova or Sephiroth since unlike Cloud, Zack was never overwhelmed or consumed by Jenova cells.
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind 2 ай бұрын
It still messes me up how OGFF7 Cait tries to read Aeriths future when she is dead and there is no letter coming out because she is dead and has no future.. It looked so silly the first time.. and when I thought about it...
@N120Xeno
@N120Xeno Ай бұрын
Damn that’s some clever foreshadowing
@JamesMayfield-ry7zx
@JamesMayfield-ry7zx Ай бұрын
It the original, Cait says on the 3rd Fortune that he has never gotten that fortune before. Implying the moogle gives randomized, preprgrammed fortunes. It was his excuse to see what happens, but in turn he was spying on them.
@eljugadorescaldenc4002
@eljugadorescaldenc4002 13 күн бұрын
Great Video, like the og I remembered the third prediction obviously but the the other two rebirth no, good work mention it and searching the meaning.
@crazedbutcher6672
@crazedbutcher6672 12 күн бұрын
I know this is an outdated detail, but I love the little detail the animators put in to tell when Cloud is being controlled by Sephiroth and when it's Cloud himself. Look at his eyes: When it's Sephiroth in control/jenova, the eyes turn into slits. When it's Cloud, he has his normal circular irisis. Also something I don't see getting talked about enough is the fortune that he'll lose "What he cherishes most" and many fans wrongly speculate that they're referring to Aerith. In Advent Children, Cloud States that "There isn't a thing I don't cherish" leading me to believe the main goal of the bad guys is to make meteor happen across all timelines that are in contact with the multiversal lifestream. I really hope they do more things like this to tie in Advent Children.
@inunarugo
@inunarugo 2 ай бұрын
The 2nd and third one I knew from my first playthrough, but the 1st one I was still wrapping my head around. From the OG, you know Cait and the black materia double crossing. The third made me think of Advent Children when Sephiroth said, "What do you cherish most, giving me the pleasure of taking it away?" And it shows Aerith, Tifa, Zack, Denzel, and Marelene.
@elowei9919
@elowei9919 2 ай бұрын
It shows Aerith the most though in that advent children scene.
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 2 ай бұрын
That’s what I thought too. I thought the first was Cait Sith trying to convince them to trust him
@jramirez4310
@jramirez4310 2 ай бұрын
​@@elowei9919and this is likely because he still held himself responsible for her death. He is still grieving about not being able to save her.
@elowei9919
@elowei9919 2 ай бұрын
@@jramirez4310 no it’s because sephiroth asked who he cherished most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away. And it’s still Aerith. Cloud in every other game he appears in is written searching for AERITH. He’s not searching for anyone else he lost. End of. 🤷‍♀️
@ErenDenizMert
@ErenDenizMert Ай бұрын
Except he loses Aerith, but doesnt lose the others
@nitopygameplays
@nitopygameplays 2 ай бұрын
Cloud saved an alternate aerith for now. So long aerith, Shall we meet once more the worlds colide again.
@darbs1832
@darbs1832 Ай бұрын
Cloud didn't save her. In any reality.
@ErenDenizMert
@ErenDenizMert Ай бұрын
​@@darbs1832Except he did
@darbs1832
@darbs1832 Ай бұрын
@@ErenDenizMert You're weeks late bud. We've already got confirmation that he didn't save her (as if it wasn't obvious enough).
@Grimmaculate
@Grimmaculate 11 күн бұрын
@@darbs1832 Yeah in HIS timeline.
@darbs1832
@darbs1832 11 күн бұрын
@@Grimmaculate if you wanna call his mind a 'timeline'...then sure - go ahead.
@keeganguyer5237
@keeganguyer5237 2 ай бұрын
Imagine Cloud manages to do something *good* with it. Meteor vs Holy + Meteor anybody?
@owohscorner
@owohscorner 2 ай бұрын
New Final Fantasy spell: Judgement.
@BlueMoon56832
@BlueMoon56832 2 ай бұрын
Look...even people who ship tifa and cloud or zack and aerith can't deny that cloud loved aerith too...and that they had some series chemistry
@xStrife1997x
@xStrife1997x 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm team Tifa - but that's considering the entirety of the compilation. They have an almost "meant to be" or "it's obvious" kind of chemistry. But Cloud organically seems to have feelings for Aerith, and that can't be denied (and vice versa). I've never liked this Cloti vs Clerith thing that goes on. I'm almost certain Nomura mentioned in a really old interview that FF7 is a love story, and that Cloud does have feelings for both. I'm not finished with Rebirth but boy oh boy does it made things SOOOOOO much more complicated imo. I'm literally teeter tottering between the two, and seriously checking my biases. The new Zack stuff in the game isn't helping, lol.
@givmi_more_w9251
@givmi_more_w9251 2 ай бұрын
I have yet to see a scene except the contrived ones in the end that come out of nowhere, in all of the two games where they have 'chemistry'. Those end-scenes feel like I'm watching Aerith fantasise, and it made me nauseous. Well, at least Cloud's Japanese VA really outdid himself there, so that was still enjoyable. Yes, he likes her, no doubt, and he wants to protect her ... but that's it. Could he have developed feelings for her? I could see it, yeah. If Tifa weren't there. But as some Cleriths have told me, Aerith is his true soulmate, Tifa just for the physical stuff or something. (Oh, the best one was 'Cloud and Tifa's kiss was like Seymour and Yuna in FFX' ... like wtaf.) Also, whatever chemistry they might have ... remember when Cloud said Gongaga looked familiar to him when he was never there? Yeah, there is that mindfuckery with Zack going on. As long as that isn't cleared up HOW bad his memories and emotions are entangled with Zack, I don't want to hear anything about their twue wuv when it could easily be Zack's influence. Look, I'm not team Tifa or team Aerith, I'm first and foremost Team 'lovetriangles need to die in a fire' and team 'consistent characters and stories'.
@xStrife1997x
@xStrife1997x 2 ай бұрын
@givmi_more_w9251 dude/dudette, if you were Materia, I'd have you equipped 100% of the time. I think our perception of what "chemistry" is, is the only thing that separates us, but I more or less agree with you. Rebirth's ch.14 took some real liberties imo, but we have to accept that, now, it is what it is. All still up to our interpretations. Can we like... be friends somewhere and lean on each other when it comes to these arguments? I hear Cloti is bad, but I've been absolutely DUNKED on by Clerith time and again. It often feels like I'm just not allowed to use logic.
@RaineJT
@RaineJT Ай бұрын
@@givmi_more_w9251 The way I break it down is: 1) Cloud does have a mixture of some of Zack's memories, but they aren't solid enough (interpersonally) to make a clear difference. The main issue at hand is that (call it coping with trauma or whatever) Cloud gets flashes of memorable places or events, and used these events to gaslight himself into thinking he made it into SOLDIER. If personal relationships were influenced by Zack's memories then not only would we have seen a "flashback" when first meeting her in Remake but it would've been an immediate connection. The theme of the remakes seem to be about identity and the different relationships you forge in your life, be it through shared trauma or experience, but the details will be made more clear about THIS version during the 3rd installment. 2) Cloud can, and does, have feelings for both Tifa and Aerith. On the one hand, Aerith helped break him out of his "tough guy" shell in both the OG and remakes. You will naturally feel some positive connection to the person that breaks down your walls because you feel safe and comfortable around them. That's exactly what happened with Cloud and Aerith. HOWEVER, through the story Cloud realizes that Tifa has been there from the beginning. Tifa was his friend, they made promises to each other, they grew up together, and after reuniting after 5 years Tifa was still the one who invited him back into her life. I view the Cloti/Clerith debate as: "I love you because you made me feel human again" vs. "I've always loved you and I just never realized it, but now that we're adults and have addressed our issues/shared in experiences that forced us to rely on one another it's plain to see that you're it and you always have been it". 3) There absolutely is guilt on Cloud's part. Before Mideel it's the guilt of "I couldn't save her", whereas after it's survivor's guilt and the realization of the fact that Aerith needed to be a sacrificial lamb in order to save the world. Either way, it's absolutely natural and not at all selfish to blame yourself; everyone does it and if you haven't than you have never experience the death of someone close to you (and I envy you for that - not saying you personally, but you as a generalization). To claim that the guilt is borne from Zack is not only incorrect, but completely disregarding real and true feelings. The biggest issue is from people who haven't played OG, and I'm not saying that as a purist. In the OG your relationship with Aerith was more friendly (She was the one who romanticized Cloud because he reminded her of her "first serious boyfriend") and her death scene seemed more like "I wasn't strong enough and now my friend is dead". The Mideel/Lifestream sequence proved that Aerith was only a small but important part of Cloud's life, and it was only ever about Sephiroth...but who has always been there with him? Tifa.
@lieberte
@lieberte Ай бұрын
@@givmi_more_w9251 "love triangles need to die, but only if I am the right one". Pathetic comment
@PyccoloSantos
@PyccoloSantos 2 ай бұрын
Im not prepared to lose her again. :(
@SempaiXDX
@SempaiXDX 2 ай бұрын
This is why I don't play the remakes, I tried my best to save her in every playthrough in the original game coz my young heart can't accept what happend
@billybatts8283
@billybatts8283 2 ай бұрын
She has to die. You get that right?
@diegoanthonyherrera9952
@diegoanthonyherrera9952 2 ай бұрын
She is like sephirot now.. a superior entity, with multiverse access just like sephirot, the last part of this game will be crazy
@SempaiXDX
@SempaiXDX 2 ай бұрын
@@billybatts8283 I know but I like her then and still like her now 😢
@salmark9080
@salmark9080 2 ай бұрын
this saga isn't about losing her it already happened. It's about something more we will find out in part 3
@leandrowngo
@leandrowngo Ай бұрын
Cid just humming the final fantasy theme is a vibe.
@joshuajohnson5898
@joshuajohnson5898 2 ай бұрын
"Ordinary luck, it will be an active fortune."
@JPMateria
@JPMateria 2 ай бұрын
I know the fortune was given to Cloud but I'm concerned that it was Barrett who read it aloud. Hopefully it's not referring to him. Might want to check up on Marlene, folks...
@Kaptime
@Kaptime 2 ай бұрын
I'm betting reverse order, cause Rebirth = Reverse. 1. Gongaga Mushroom prediction (remember there was a 4th one after GS Buggy escape), 2. Aerith, 3. Cloud has the Black Materia at the end of Rebirth, 4. Twist at the end of part 3.
@Pastafari4
@Pastafari4 2 ай бұрын
I think the last one might be Cloud 'losing everything', be it literally or metaphorically. Perhaps his timeline, reality or the original timeline.
@Shuyin128MK4
@Shuyin128MK4 Ай бұрын
I feel like this is a convergence point of timelines. Through the tampering of the timeline from future Sephiroth, Aerith was able to work things around to help lead things to this moment. The Cloud in Rebirth is now different from the Cloud in OG. Instead of keenly blaming himself for the next few years over her death, he's still connected to her through the lifestream. We're seeing mixes of the OG timeline with dead Aerith and Cloud speaking voiceless words like the original material, but now he sees and feels Aerith alive in Rebirth. Part 3 is going to be insane.
@robertjones3489
@robertjones3489 Ай бұрын
Exactly. Seph sent everyone but Aerith to the World Between Worlds to get the black materia, the OG game. The OG temple is in the Southeast, but the Rebirth one is in the North. Foreshadowing: Cissnei said she doesn't feel like Zack is gone. Also, don't miss the implication that Aerith tipped off Marlene to "get Cloud cured", which led to Zack going to Hojo, who probably had Genesis (cured) DNA from Deepground. It seems because of this cure, Cloud recovered his memory of Zack (way ahead of schedule) and had the self-control to block Seph, which in turn is why Seph said he underestimated Aerith. Cloud wasn't a puppet like he thought.
@sethmurphy3405
@sethmurphy3405 20 күн бұрын
The second riddle made me think of cait giving away the keystone more than the black materia...
@OP-Tama
@OP-Tama Ай бұрын
What is the ost at 1:06 please? 🙏
@TriforceWisdom64
@TriforceWisdom64 2 ай бұрын
When I played the OG, I was under the impression Cloud/Tifa was outright canon. Rebirth pretty clearly makes Cloud/Aerith canon, at least during Disc 1. What this tells me is that FF7 should never have had player shipping in the first place. Clearly they had specific romance arcs they wanted to depict regardless of our preferences.
@thealex9545
@thealex9545 2 ай бұрын
Man Cloud and Tifa are cannon dude lol. I love Aerith but on the date scenes Cloud only kissed Tifa. Aerith even says that Cloud doesn’t like her the way she likes him.
@the_exegete
@the_exegete 2 ай бұрын
It is true that shipping is bad and shouldn't be done by anyone.
@thealex9545
@thealex9545 2 ай бұрын
@@the_exegete the devs clearly made their choice lol. Tifa is cannon cause out of all the date scenes, Cloud kisses Tifa dude. No arguments to be made lmao
@TriforceWisdom64
@TriforceWisdom64 2 ай бұрын
@@the_exegete *Arguing about ships is bad and shouldn't be done by anyone.
@alyss4192
@alyss4192 19 күн бұрын
Then in part 3 later you'll switch again 😂, the thing is FF7 is your typical harem anime which all chicks are important to you. It sucks yeah but it is what it is. Although I personally prefer Tifa, but I don't deny he does love Aerith too it's too ignorant to deny it, same as saying Cloud doesnt love Tifa, that's also dumb conclusion. Dismissing her is the same as saying Cloud should just die to meet Aerith. To me it's all fun to SE playing with the players' preferences. Even if Aerith is SAVED, I bet 100% SE won't ever make it obvious and leave everyone speculating forever 😂
@AsuranFish
@AsuranFish 2 ай бұрын
I think the “cherish most” prediction was in the OG. Maybe the other two as well.
@cathygrandstaff1957
@cathygrandstaff1957 2 ай бұрын
Yeah although if I remember right the wording was “You shall find what you seek, but you will lose something precious” - which could have referred to Aerith or it could have been the false Soldier persona Cloud was adopting, both of which he loses by the end of the game.
@davidecarminati8730
@davidecarminati8730 2 ай бұрын
@@cathygrandstaff1957”What you pursue will be yours, but you will lose something dear” was the OG translation. And, yes, it undoubtedly refers to Aerith. It means: you will find Sephiroth, but you will lose Aerith. OG Japanese said “what you hold most dear” apparently, so maybe the new Rebirth translation is more accurate.
@bjornironsides6474
@bjornironsides6474 23 күн бұрын
The twist and trust was about cait taking the key for Shinra.
@alimichalkan8046
@alimichalkan8046 2 ай бұрын
Wow who would have thought Cait Sith’s first two readings turned out to be true.
@ryukthegodofdeath5906
@ryukthegodofdeath5906 23 күн бұрын
Total prediction for prt 3 though its rough drafted, sephiroth suceeds in reuniting the other timelines but won't go the way he is expecting, cause not only does have cloud and the others on the og timeline, now have zack who is in other timeline, areith is in the same category as sephiroth him and her are gonna have a wicked battle in the life stream i believe, and cloud and everyone will suceed but not in the way they are hoping either its gonna be a big cluster dump in prt 3
@supersmily5811
@supersmily5811 2 ай бұрын
From the moment the third fortune was read aloud I instantly knew all the fortunes were true.
@calebhughes5767
@calebhughes5767 2 ай бұрын
Its almost like it was ment to happen! 🤯
@Phantomyre
@Phantomyre 2 ай бұрын
# 2 kinda makes it sound like Vincent is the twist but I don't think that's it. I think it had more to do with the ending where Zack and Aerith assist Cloud.
@user-lk1mv5hz3w
@user-lk1mv5hz3w 2 күн бұрын
You know, in Advent Children, Cloud says that there isn’t a single thing he doesn’t cherish. Given this prediction? That’s pretty ominous.
@user-lk1mv5hz3w
@user-lk1mv5hz3w 2 күн бұрын
Whoops. Someone else pointed this out. 😂
@Mymeloshy
@Mymeloshy 2 ай бұрын
Everyone is allowed to ship cloud with who they pleased and both ships are valid. But “what u cherish the most” quote is referring to aerith whether u like it or not is clear as day is about her.
@z-rossi3672
@z-rossi3672 2 ай бұрын
It could definitely reference his identity as a soldier
@mwebb6570
@mwebb6570 2 ай бұрын
​@z-rossi3672 honestly that's how I interpreted it as well, I don't think Cloud is truly capable of cherishing an actual person at the moment.
@mwebb6570
@mwebb6570 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, he hasn't exactly "lost" Aerith. Her spirit or whatever is still with him.
@Stormeye_Kinobi
@Stormeye_Kinobi 2 ай бұрын
"I pity you. You just don't get it at all. There is not a thing I don't cherish." Cloud Advent Children
@Oimae
@Oimae 2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's soldier. That's what he wanted the most and that's going to be how he beats sephiroth in the third game. Remember aerith keeps asking cloud to meet the real cloud. Not this soldier persona he created to cope. Being a soldier was his goal. According to advent children, sephiroth's hold on cloud is what keeps sephiroth coming back. In rebirth sephiroth saves cloud from the midgarsomr precisely because sephiroth needs cloud to be tethered to reality
@CJLAKE123
@CJLAKE123 Ай бұрын
Anyone catch Cait Sith humming the Final Fantasy Main Theme song?
@deadchannel686
@deadchannel686 Ай бұрын
Same prediction, same outcome, although people are saying aerith is still alive in a new timeline/world like Sephiroth suggests. We'll have to wait for the final part of the remake trilogy to find out what's going on here! 😍
@niteriemcfarlane5285
@niteriemcfarlane5285 2 ай бұрын
half of the comments under this video are mentioning Batman unironically now i wanna see him modded in da game lmao
@sevenstars4194
@sevenstars4194 2 ай бұрын
Does Tifa think Cloud killed Aerith? Because in a short scene his hand is covered with blood
@Proletarios69
@Proletarios69 2 ай бұрын
That's what i thought too when i saw this moment while playing, we know Sephiroth has control over Cloud whenever he wants, but we can't be sure i think she is just confused that she can see 2 different versions of what happened there.
@N120Xeno
@N120Xeno Ай бұрын
I kinda doubt that as when fight Jenova she was pissed. Also when the rest of the party arrive they see Cloud holding Aerith in her arms and Sephiroth is also there.
@rasdan1192
@rasdan1192 2 ай бұрын
Dunno, the 3rd prediction can mean alot. Since it's a reference of Advent Children.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 2 ай бұрын
Cloud: There’s not a thing I DON’T cherish!!
@mettatonneoex
@mettatonneoex 2 ай бұрын
​@@RedDragonForce2Sephiroth: Let's do this (Sephiroth Joined the Party) Barret: I don't even know anymore
@bumblebree7995
@bumblebree7995 2 ай бұрын
"There's not a thing I DON'T cherish!" But who/what does he cherish MOST? Aerith. You see her twice, first thing in his memories in that scene in Advent Children. Aerith, Aerith, Tifa, Marlene, Denzel, Zack. In that order. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6OaZ3-flpuclZY
@daedalus8494
@daedalus8494 2 ай бұрын
lel it's not Aerith, it's his individuality. He finds out the truth, but he loses himself. Jesus, quit making everything romantic.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 2 ай бұрын
@@daedalus8494 exactly!
@Murakumo279
@Murakumo279 Ай бұрын
The first prediction, 'Put your trust in others, and a last-minute twist may pleasantly surprise you,' is talking about Sephiroth from 7 seconds till the end, the real hero Sephiroth. In the third part, it will be reversed to let us know that most of the Sephiroth we encountered before were actually JENOVA. And the real hero Sephiroth will use the Black Materia 'not to exist' to fight against Jenova.
@azazel166
@azazel166 2 ай бұрын
So is Sephiroth trying to change how things unfold by doing what Kain did in Soul Reaver?
@GilgameshofBabylon
@GilgameshofBabylon 2 ай бұрын
And poor Cloud is Raziel. Where everyone else is relying on him to make the choices convenient for them. "What game is this, where every player on the board claims the same pawn?"
@andrieputra
@andrieputra 2 күн бұрын
In this ending when aerith stab by sephiroth , cloud couldnt stop it so theres blood of aerith . In the original cloud only saw sephiroth stab aerith
@Nexuish
@Nexuish 2 ай бұрын
Fortune 1: trusting Cait Sith will pay off ( for multiple reasons) Fortune 2: black materia will ultimately be the key to stopping Sephiroth Fortune 3: let’s just say, going north won’t end well.
@regole7746
@regole7746 26 күн бұрын
The whispers that let Cloud get into the city of ancients are sephirot's ones? My question is: why? 🤔
@CodeNameX001
@CodeNameX001 Ай бұрын
I think the first could also be about Cait Sith himself. They trusted him, and he betrayed them, only to come back and "sacrifice" himself so they could escape the Temple.
@Grimmaculate
@Grimmaculate 11 күн бұрын
He literally came back after he "sacrificed" himself
@miricobladetail9670
@miricobladetail9670 2 ай бұрын
Shinra maybe a horrible evil company, but they can build robots like no one else.
@thebrigade7684
@thebrigade7684 2 ай бұрын
Well atleast the second one is the most obvious one. 1st one is too vague because he really doesn't save Aerith Sephiroth just merges the timelines and chooses the one where she dies he is also the only one to actually enter the portal because Sephiroth wanted to give him a little push and granted his blessing it lines up so well why the black whispers open a portal when he reaches that gate, biggest scope of Sephiroth was trying to break him with Aerith's death but he legit believes he saved her I do not think it has anything to do with the fortune it could be Zack or something else. 3rd one can be either himself his own consciousness or Aerith at the ending I somewhat think everyone will have different opinion depending on who they ship here.
@jamesgravil9162
@jamesgravil9162 Ай бұрын
Cait Sith is the Professor Trelawney of this game.
@DarkButz
@DarkButz 10 күн бұрын
One thing I thought is that Cait Sith's VA sounded kinda...awkward in the beginning, as if he was warming up to the character over time.
@chichiboypumpi
@chichiboypumpi Ай бұрын
reminds me of Simon Pegg
@allmightyvids543
@allmightyvids543 2 ай бұрын
What confuses me though is in one world he saves her and in another she is dead , then the game basically mind fucks you so bad you have no idea whats happening , i 100% believe she will survive in some fashion but i have absolutely no idea how there going to wrap the story up in the next game 🤣 does anyone have a plausible theory ??
@KirosanaPerkele
@KirosanaPerkele Ай бұрын
Aerith is able to rejoin the party but ultimately chooses to reside in a world where Zack is. There will be a tearful farewell. The world where Zack is bound to is ending but she will still go, knowing that while there might be many worlds they all share the same lifestream. By the time of Advent Children the world will have expired, and both Aerith and Zack are there together as we saw them in the end of the movie.
@noyoucantnoicantnowecantsostop
@noyoucantnoicantnowecantsostop Ай бұрын
Pretty sure this happened in original too right? Or am i remembering it wrong? Hence my confusion on people just realizing it now, i mean i know big possibility of baby fans' reaction exists but stil...
@xizilionyizzexeliqer3897
@xizilionyizzexeliqer3897 2 ай бұрын
He must have done the right thing giving the Keystone away because sonething worse might have been... On the cards.
@torchlight1785
@torchlight1785 2 ай бұрын
Wait in the first one, does Cloud have his own whispers? Or is that because he’s part Sephiroth?
@homris
@homris 2 ай бұрын
the white whispers are Aerith's
@joegardner851
@joegardner851 2 ай бұрын
@@homrisI think the white whispers are the planet.
@NeoWolves7
@NeoWolves7 Ай бұрын
Sephiroth did cloud “his blessings” maybe that meant the power of whispers as well
@delicatebabies3340
@delicatebabies3340 2 ай бұрын
i thought the 1st one was about cait siths betrayal
@platinumdragonslayer6128
@platinumdragonslayer6128 2 ай бұрын
Does that include the recipe of a birthday cake for one? Or the Shintra dating app?
@cathygrandstaff1957
@cathygrandstaff1957 2 ай бұрын
I was actually thinking I wonder what it is Cloud cherishes most. Is it Aerith? Is it Tifa? Or is it the persona of the brave Ex-Soldier first class he’s adopted? We know from the original he loses Aerith and the false persona as part of the story. But perhaps Advent Children has the answer “There’s nothing in the world I don’t cherish” has some implications for the foreshadowing that the world will be destroyed at the end of the trilogy.
@nekogamer2508
@nekogamer2508 2 ай бұрын
It's his ego as the ex-soldier he built
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 2 ай бұрын
it is Aerith because he doesn't lose Tifa in the series, you gonna lose your brain cell forcing your headcanon. it is clear as day, like do you really think he even cherishes his fake persona and his false memory plus being under sephiroth control?
@nekogamer2508
@nekogamer2508 2 ай бұрын
@@fadlanfadilah1171 it's not a person who loses that he cherishes because Aerith is a person not a thing
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 2 ай бұрын
@@nekogamer2508 ????
@dotkiarika1026
@dotkiarika1026 2 ай бұрын
He can cherish everything and also have something he cherishes most tho I dont understand when people use that AC quote as a comeback. Its clearly Aerith.
@conundrum60690
@conundrum60690 Ай бұрын
The first one isn’t that. It’s when Aerith used the wind to save him from being knocked off the platform to his death in the TOTA
@jdzspace33
@jdzspace33 2 ай бұрын
He didn't create an alternate timeline where he saved Aerith. Aerith died, the one he sees is clearly a manifestation of the lifestream. They make it pretty obvious with the green light always floating around her. So that doesn't really work. That wasn't a surprise, or him throwing caution to the wind. Maybe it will prove true eventually, but you are incorrect about it paying off in rebirth. especially since the game goes to great lengths to show that in every world where Aerith lives, the planet dies. I'm not sure if that is what I would classify as a "pleasant surprise"
@JohnAnderson4610
@JohnAnderson4610 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind 2 ай бұрын
5:16 time to wake up.
@brebeaa
@brebeaa 2 ай бұрын
This is great, they did all come true, despite being contradictory. Cloud saves Aerith in another timeline, but not in the primary one.
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 2 ай бұрын
it explained in the loveless play that none can divine the conclusion of every path. also the theme of remake is defying fate?? so that's that.
@MishrasFactory
@MishrasFactory Ай бұрын
The others didn't see Sephiroth kill Aerith. Only Cloud, Zack and Aerith fight Sephiroth. Cloud may have actually killed Aerith himself, while being controlled by Sephiroth/Jenova. That's why pressing L2+R2 doesn't do anything. Also, Sephiroth's clones wouldn't have been able to make it to the Forbidden City for him to bodyswap.
@mrskye08
@mrskye08 2 ай бұрын
Cait sith = ron weasly 😂 I'm confused as to what sephiroth's goal is. He knows that defying fate splits the world in two possibilities. He asked cloud seven seconds what would you do? It means sephiroth knows that if cloud stops him from killing aerith it will only create another world where she lives. And after the world merging, the world where she's alive will linger, able to summon holy against sephiroth. It seems different from og, but it's basically the same to me. Aerith is still able to summon holy "somewhere". We just thought aerith did it in og from the lifestream, but now we know that she's gonna do it from that created timeline, merged with cloud's original timeline. From my understanding sephiroth was not able to do anything that could change his fate (win against cloud). 🤷🏻‍♂️ Or am i missing something here? Edit: this is why i think sephiroth in remake is NOT the sephiroth from AC. He was not a time traveller. He was the same sephiroth from OG. OG details were just expanded to create a more complex story (ie wounding world in og is just via meteor, but now we knew that wounding world is tearing timelines, merging them and final blow with meteor)
@iaxacs3801
@iaxacs3801 Ай бұрын
You're right that all three are true, but I can say from experience that whatever Nomura has planned it's not so straightforward. Expect a lot of bait and switches with red herrings. Sincerely, a Kingdom hearts fan that has dived deep into theory crafting Nomura works and no one ever guesses what's actually happening
@grimshock6983
@grimshock6983 2 ай бұрын
I think the first one was about ignoring Sephiroth, and trust Tifa. The last minute twist might be referring to Zack another ally
@tonymaccaroni1683
@tonymaccaroni1683 2 ай бұрын
Tha last one was about Aerith.
@aikoizumi2947
@aikoizumi2947 2 ай бұрын
The amount of Clotis trying to avoid talking about Aerith as someone Cloud cherishes is funny. The soldier's identity is there, Tifa is there. The friendship is there. "Forever lose what you cherish most." Seriously? The one that died in OG is Aerith, and the story goes along with it. He act so distant with the squad in AC after Aerith's death and that shows how much he cares for her, even lived in her church to feel closer to her & ignored the squad including Tifa. Same goes for AC Sephiroth taunting him with "Tell me what you cherish most." & "Give me the pleasure of taking it all away." And he immediately thought of Aerith first, twice! Zack and then Aerith again in his eyes before others came to screen. Since we have different timelines the possibilities are infinite now. Accept it. It's Aerith since the beginning that he cherishes. The game shows Cloud crying and weeping over Aerith and you guys saying he doesn't feel anything about Aerith 😂 are you that dense?
@JustKelso1993
@JustKelso1993 2 ай бұрын
He doesn't live in the Church in AC until he gets geostigma. He lives with Tifa. He leaves them because he is going to die. The romance shit between Aerith and Cloud had no basis and came out of nowhere honestly, that is why people take issue with it. If you got the Tifa date at the saucer and they had this big moment, it is weird for this last hour to suddenly be 'cloud is in love with aerith' only. I ,personally, think he truly loves both of them and if it was Tifa who died he would act the same for Tifa. He is traumatized and death seems to be hard for him to deal with altogether. Doesn't help that Aerith won't leave him alone in the lifestream either lol thinking about it
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 2 ай бұрын
@@JustKelso1993 that's right, he rather spend the last hour of his life alone in the church rather than with Tifa, think about that for a second. Also, no one is saying he only loves aerith, you clotis should read carefully before getting triggered.
@aikoizumi2947
@aikoizumi2947 2 ай бұрын
@@JustKelso1993 He lives in 7th Heaven with Tifa, Barret, Marlene and Denzel at first before leaving them. It's not just Tifa alone. You coming around saying Cloud doesn't feel anything with Aerith is your opinion. SE has made it clear who's the main heroine in both Remake and Rebirth. At least we aren't in denial when the ending credits all defaulted to Aerith and most of the dates favour more to Aerith as default Rosa. (4/6) Also the trophies are mostly Clerith. I've seen some of the streamers couldn't even sit through the game cause even after romancing Tifa, the storyline goes through Clerith route and it shows on their face on how confusing it was to them but not to Clerith cause Aerith is the intended route. I didn't say Cloud in love with Aerith only, Tifa has her moments with Cloud too but she's not the main heroine. SE gave fanservice to you guys with those optional scenes that you'll need to work your way to romance her (And need to lessen your relationship with Aerith) while with Aerith you can maximize all character relationships and still get Aerith. It's obvious. You just can't accept it.
@aikoizumi2947
@aikoizumi2947 2 ай бұрын
@@JustKelso1993 it's because of Aerith he find the strength to keep going in AC. Tifa couldn't help him much and ended up putting pressure on him instead. Aerith helped heal him while fighting Kadaj, using the same water that soon became cure for the Geostigma. You're telling me Aerith who's also the same person wanted Cloud to be safe by sacrificing herself and helped Cloud to forgive himself in AC is "shit coming out of nowhere" ? If there's no Aerith, AC won't be complete. Plus your so-called couple doesn't end up together, the man barely able to answer when Tifa asks if he loves her. If they're so in love, SE would've made them get married already.
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 2 ай бұрын
What I find funny is, people are so heavy into this particular debate, but ultimately, with all the different ways you can interpret things, or things added in later, or whatever else, it all boils down to one dichotomy. There are two canon options. Cloud either has a romantic relationship with Tifa, or he has a platonic relationship with her. There is no canon option for a relationship with Aerith. Also fun fact, Cloud and Aerith never truly meet in the first place. Cloud ONLY knows Aerith through the veil of his mind being shattered shattered, and he is incorporating Zack's stories into his own persona (a huge part of which is Zack's descriptions of the girl he likes, which matches up to Aerith, because it literally is Aerith.). On the other hand, Aerith ONLY knows Cloud while he is trying to force himself into Zack's role, which reminds Aerith of her first love (because Zack literally is her first love.). So, they are drawn to each other based purely off of the lie that Cloud is veiling over himself. I honestly don't understand the Cloud X Aerith arguments, when they have never legitimately met each other in a true manner. BTW, who ever said that Cloud doesn't feel anything about Aerith? He obviously cares about her, she is his dear friend. Arguably more than that while he is dealing with his shattered mind (again, due to the fact that she perfectly matches up to the stories Zack told him about his girlfriend, because she is that same person, and Cloud is trying to emanate Zack subconsciously, thereby causing him to draw close to her.), but on the off chance that there is anyone who says that Cloud feels nothing about her, are blatantly wrong.
@soulconjure8823
@soulconjure8823 2 ай бұрын
So i romanced Tifa. But with the way he is acting with Aerith at the end, i got the impression that he likes Aerith just a bit more than Tifa. Which i think is "cannon" because in Advent children he is distant from Tifa and the party dwelling on Aeriths death, than Tifa like the queen that she is, finally puts her foot down saying "what is it going to be, a memory or us?"
@soulconjure8823
@soulconjure8823 2 ай бұрын
@@saylessreaux3263 my theory is based on that given time in the story.. I'm glad he chooses Tifa in the end but the question still stands if Aerith was still around would he pick Tifa or Aerith? I think Square Enix did this on purpose to allow the players to make that decision for ourselves in gameplay
@thebrigade7684
@thebrigade7684 2 ай бұрын
'Why are you acting so weird?" "This isn't you" "talk to me" in what context does these sort of things imply that he has bigger preference with Aerith nonetheless the entire "date" is about Aerith enjoying her last moments in that timeline being fully aware that sephiroth found her and wants to give cloud the operational white materia to save the world the entire thing date is just a red herring and just a distraction and to an extent it's practically their farewell to each other because she dies in the main world and Sephiroth is hunting her in the other worlds.
@saylessreaux3263
@saylessreaux3263 2 ай бұрын
@@soulconjure8823 so you chose one specific part in ac to fit your narrative? And for clarification purposes even though the scenes are optional, they are all canon. You can choose who you want to go on a date with but you can’t dictate clouds actions during the date. Cloud's actions are Canon and not optional. The fact that he is the one to initiate a kiss with Tifa means that one thing is clear. Cloud loves Tifa.
@tonymaccaroni1683
@tonymaccaroni1683 Ай бұрын
@@saylessreaux3263 I had Aerith and Yuffie in my playthroughs so there he never kissed Tifa. How is that canon if they don't make it known to all players?
@saylessreaux3263
@saylessreaux3263 Ай бұрын
@@tonymaccaroni1683 they all happened. You just choose the one you want to see. Which isn’t a problem..
@noobyham7887
@noobyham7887 2 ай бұрын
Only a sith deals an absolute
@zediahtimmons9704
@zediahtimmons9704 2 ай бұрын
Tell me what you cherish the most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away
@yomamaisgaming
@yomamaisgaming 2 ай бұрын
In a way, Cloud never really left the Temple of Ancients
@Hassan32132
@Hassan32132 Ай бұрын
What u mean
@ScrewFearMe
@ScrewFearMe Ай бұрын
I don't think he saved Aerith in a parallel world, he just thinks he did because he's messed up even more so than before, not long before that he was unhinged as fuck trying to retrieve the black materia. She died and his brain is coping with it, by giving him a hallucination.
@user-ki4no3ly5
@user-ki4no3ly5 2 ай бұрын
I dunnoo… that color is not lucky at all considering it can literally wipe out the entire world if not universe
@TheDNBBEATS
@TheDNBBEATS Ай бұрын
So far it's a 1 to 1 remake of OG FF7. Nothing actually changed. But they're leaning heavily into the Advent Children lore of Aerith being part of the life stream. Who knows. My other theory is this is the FF7 world that is part of Dissidia lore and these are the FF7 characters that we see sprinkled throughout Kingdom Hearts. 😂
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 Ай бұрын
he has aerith empty white materia from another world, so something DID change.
@ckeps5354
@ckeps5354 Ай бұрын
Watch your belongings = Yuffie robbing them.
@MagikarpUsedOmnisplash
@MagikarpUsedOmnisplash 2 ай бұрын
Sucks that we gotta wait 5 years for the next game 😮‍💨
@stephenschneekloth1535
@stephenschneekloth1535 2 ай бұрын
30th anniversary for FF7 is 2027, expect part 3 then.
@supersayianpeter10
@supersayianpeter10 2 ай бұрын
7 seconds to the end
@katherineelizabeth3608
@katherineelizabeth3608 12 күн бұрын
I think watch your belongings; lucky colour is black more has to do with Cait stealing the black materia
@cloudx7671
@cloudx7671 2 ай бұрын
I mean it’s a fortune wht did u think was finna happen did no one think about this? 😂 cause ngl im a hard believer 🙏🏽
@skeithsnightmare
@skeithsnightmare Ай бұрын
I still want answers. Did Cloud actually save Aerith? I know they show another timeline where she dies, but whats real what isn't? Was she or was she not saved? Or is Aerith both alive and dead? Alive in one dead in another and what was up with Aerith in the end? She she a ghost was Cloud in the timeline where she died? Nothing makes sense.
@Grimmaculate
@Grimmaculate 11 күн бұрын
You'll simply have to wait for the next game
@rashido_grey
@rashido_grey 2 ай бұрын
Almost like it was part of a script ;)
@willardth
@willardth Ай бұрын
Just like the og. It came true
@BleistiftSchwert
@BleistiftSchwert Ай бұрын
It’s kinda funny to me that what cloud cherishs most is Aerith. Just a day after he kissed Tifa 😂🤷‍♀️
@amoghsawant3801
@amoghsawant3801 Ай бұрын
Date are non canon
@r3gret2079
@r3gret2079 2 ай бұрын
No Sephiroth, chief among them is actually fuckin up the ending into a confusing mess, then it's all that other crap.
@tgonzalez1983
@tgonzalez1983 8 күн бұрын
But what happened to everyone in the world where he saved her? Why are we forced into only playing the world where she dies? Idk. I hate multiverse shit. It’s always a cop out for doing whatever with whoever
@CocoPopsOnFire
@CocoPopsOnFire Ай бұрын
i feel like the 3rd one is different, thing he's looking for is the real sephiroth, which he is garunteed to find if he looks for him due to the jenova cells guiding him to his body for 'the reunion' the thing he cherish's most is not aerith, but actually his SOLDIER persona and everyones opinion of him. in the next game he will have the truth come out about who he really is and his failings, hence losing something he cherishes its basically a 1:1 of the original prediction in the OG FF7 and if you look at the japanese for the same prediction, the translation is roughly: "You will meet the [person] which you pursue. However you will lose the most precious thing." the first part refers to a person BUT the second part refers to a 'thing'. The real sephiroth is the person, and the thing is his SOLDIER persona. its foreshadowing the events at the crater people forget tifa and aerith are both side characters in this story, its not about them. its about cloud and sephiroth. if it was about tifa or aerith dont you think cloud would know what he cherishes most? the reason he's confused is because to him, he doesnts cherish anything much, because he isnt aware of his own fake persona
@fadlanfadilah1171
@fadlanfadilah1171 23 күн бұрын
sooo much reach, first of all, Aerith IS the main character along with Cloud, she is the first character shown in the first opening scene. Second of all, the OG use the word "thing" because they don't want to spoil the story, this is just basic level writing, they are not gonna write "you are gonna lose someone or you gonna lose aerith", might as well tell and spoil the player the whole story.
@white_dragoon_x
@white_dragoon_x 2 ай бұрын
I haven't gotten this far into the game yet, but the developers definently trolled the players by having cloud block the blade just to have the whispers put it back a few seconds later. I dont mind watching spoilers because i believe the original one had the better story. The remakes just elaborate and expand on it.
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