"It's Insane" | Town Sued For Racism After Paying Slavery Reparations

Kevin O'Sullivan and Rakib Ehsan discuss the feasibility and fairness of providing reparations for historical injustices, particularly slavery.
This comes after an activist group sued the town of Evanston in Illinois, claiming that a scheme to pay slavery reparations is "unconstitutional" due to the programme discriminating based on an applicant's race.
Rakib Ehsan argues that addressing social fundamentals like family stability and community cohesion is crucial before discussing reparations for historical injustices.
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[@grumpyoldsodinacellar3518]

The best one was the Nigerian, living in Nigeria, demanding reparations for all Nigerians from Britain, when it turns out his family were slave traders. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@roberthancox]

Yes.Just shows the insanity of it all.Basically they are just rattling the money tin.

[@hear.no.evil.]

Nigeria or Benin was built on slavery. They hate the fact that the British made them end it.

[@tomjackson4374]

It's all a scam, playing on white guilt. The problem is if you look at the whites who play that game they are the top 10% of the wealthiest, the same people who generally become politicians.

[@theblackgoatofthewoods]

So he really wanted backpaymeants from the trades

[@randywise5241]

Even when England fought slavery for a hundred years.

[@EvoDevo2004]

Illinois was NOT a slave state to begin with.

[@tdw5933]

Southern Illinois did have a slave trade.

[@TRUTHandLIGHT4809]

True, but the point is WHITE people ended slavery ON THE ENTIRE EARTH, as a LEGAL institution. It's not impressive to say there was legal slavery, it's very impressive to say there is no more

[@sheldonshogrin6736]

@@tdw5933 The tribes and nations of Africa were all behind the slave trade. They were the people responsible for the kidnapping and selling of people in to slavery. That is where any reparations should come from. America already paid reparations to the former slaves when they were freed after the emancipation. Quite frankly if this is going to happen, the burden of proof of having slave ancestors should be on the recipient to receive reparations. We had thousands of black slaver owners and more than 10,000 free black slavers in America. If those were ancestors, those people should have to pay in to the reparation money pools, they should have to pay their percentage. If that were the case, that would put an end to this reparation talk when a lot of black people find out they have to pay in. Sunny Hostin would be one of those that had to pay in. Most of the nations of Africa didn't outlaw slavery until the late 1980s, and that was because of world pressure and pressure from the UN. Most of the nations of Africa still have slavery currently, the laws are ignored. Nobody says anything about that, including the blacks in America, they don't care about that, and if you bring up that fact, they call it "white talking points".

[@jongault7527]

​@tdw5933 That's when it was French territory, The state of Illinois has never allowed slavery.

[@TrueMohax]

@@jongault7527 Neither was California, it was banned there before it even got in.

[@williammartinez9906]

Anyone who pays reparations should get sued for being stupid.

[@lindar6326]

PAY UP

[@marcusburden92]

Your last name is Martinez you have no say in anything. You don’t like it take your ass back to Mexico somewhere

[@Asuncion-xc6sr]

​@lindar6326 after all welfare is repayed with interest 😂😂😂

[@lv4077]

Now that would be an open and shut case

[@wolff6592]

But after ww2 when every white soldier got a house n land while blacks n Mexican were specifically excluded and written from the housing act is still ok. It's the towns decision not yours or mine dumba@@. And yes contrary to your warped history Illinois did have slaves. All northern states had slavery as well as "free men". Get your white washed history burned with the rest of the ones you're trying to ban n burn dipchits

[@toddtourville984]

This creates racism. Not only that but resentment and hatred.

[@AremuJejeofdavillage]

Slavery, Jim Crow, mass assassinations and the kkk didn’t create resentment, hatred or racism? Ok 😅

[@KMKoolGang]

And that's a good thing.

[@thelamington8195]

People who never had slaves paying people who never were slaves….Oh FFS…

[@chris-eq3sx]

Exactly. Ordinary, often poor, people did not run the slave trade so why should their descendants have to pay for it

[@kellylyons1038]

Most americans can only trace their history back a couple generations, to poor european immigrants who came here well after the end of slavery. Very few people can trace heritage back to colonial america, and of those people only a tiny percent had slaveowning ancestors because very few could afford to own slaves.

[@GreenWhitePurple]

The USA now should be renamed FFS.

[@darlahays2471]

​@@kellylyons1038We have traced my family from their arrival from Ireland. I had an ancestor in the Virginia Militia during the Revolutionary War. My family never owned a single slaves. My Dad's side immigrated from Italy in the 20s.

[@KitsyX]

Also it doesn't entirely make sense to do it based on race, because some black people could be descendants of either black or white slave owners... Or both slave and slave owner... There's potential for someone who appears mostly white to be descended from a slave too... It gets pretty complicated...

[@dolphcrane6420]

We in America are DONE with anti whiteism and reparations for crimes we did not commit.

[@Frankabagnale33]

You need to grow a pair and stop bowing down to anyone who’s a slightly darker shade than you. It’s ludicrous

[@philosopher1a]

Yes! and also the ZERO Thanks for ending Slavery

[@sTraYa249]

​@@roymurthick Ignoramus

[@JMAC1265]

@@roymurthickstarted what?

[@Dementia_Joe]

This seems to be true... and it's scaring the crap out of these opportunistic bums... Because they might have to actually WORK... and with the Migrant Infestation they THEY voted for, "work" is hard to come by...

[@stickykitty]

Whoever is making these decisions Needs to be outed and held accountable

[@ericcarter2020]

They should be force to refund the money to people who were not even born during this time!

[@johnswanson3741]

Why don't todays blacks try doing the white thing...........get a job and try to keep it!

[@AremuJejeofdavillage]

@@ericcarter2020do you think the holocaust families should refund their money too? Wow 😮

[@MitchMitch77-77]

Any gifts, reparations, or business assistance given to our communities never make it past blak government, so what difference does it make!

[@billbradley4878]

@@AremuJejeofdavillage The payouts were to the actual victims or their children, not over one hundred years later. Liberia was reparations, affirmative action for 50 years was reparations. The payment has already been made.

[@powskier]

Illinois was on the North side. They weren't slavers.

[@ericcarter2020]

Truth! Even today there only dumb people in Illinois! It a DEMOCRAT LIBERALS COMMUNISTS STATE! They are nowhere the state of ABE LINCOLN!

[@fujisan-zu4nd]

just like to day, the people suffer but it is the king and spies who benefit.

[@AremuJejeofdavillage]

Illinois, just like ALL other states, benefited greatly from the practice. The domestic chattel slave system was the backbone of the U.S. economic system since the founding colonies in the 1500s and later the nation in 1776.

[@conniekraus4581]

The North not only had slave States, they kept theirs 2 years longer than the South. The neutral State of Kentucky was the last to free theirs. But sure, it was all about slaves…,

[@gojackets4894]

New York City had slavery for over 200 years. Atlanta had it for less than 15 years. Also Africans enslaved Europeans for over 2 centuries.

[@alextitei9748]

Arab nations enslaved 10 million Blacks during the Trans-Saharan slave trade. Why do reparation demands only exist in the West and not in countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Morocco?

[@alextitei9748]

@@Nilzipan Yes. 4 million Europeans enslaved during the Barbary and Black Sea slave trades, if you count the Muslim slave raids of Eastern Europe.

[@dianecameron137]

BLACK PEOPLE ALSO TOOK SLAVES AND KILLED THEIR OWN PEOPLE BUT WE CANT TALK ABOUT THAT CAN WE WE CANT TEACH BLACK CHILDREN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT BLACK PEOPLE DID AND ARE STILL DOING LOOK AT SUDAN AND THESE COUNTRIES ITS MADNESS TO PAY OUT FOR THIS AS SO MANY HAD AND TOOK SLAVES WE HAVE GIVEN MULTI MILLIONS IN AID MONEY TO HELP COUNTRIES ALL OVER THE WORD FOR DECADES WOULD THEY DO THIS FOR US IN BRITAIN ARE THEY GIVING TO PAY OUR BILLS PUT FOOD IN OUR MOUTHS PAY OUR MEDICAL BILLS WE HAVE PAID TEN TIMES OVER

[@catwoman7462]

African slaves were sold by Africans, so they should sue countries such as Nigeria.

[@Trustno_1-k6f]

Did you say that, when you paid compensation to Jews you never hurt

[@obisan666]

​@@alextitei9748Black people enslaved Europemas for what happened to them. Karma I think

[@ronnieg6358]

Can descendents of criminals be held responsible for the crimes of their ancestors?

[@slinkiegirl2001]

Germany still pays for the holocaust do you have a problem with that

[@ScragNath]

Good point.

[@anty66]

No, but it could be next.

[@BadAppleBlues]

according to the leftwaffe of course they can.

[@murraymclean5177]

Yes, in North Korea.

[@jennifervaughn1541]

Good they should sue them. There hasn’t been slavery here in over 150 years. Those black residents are not slaves

[@brandonsopinion8904]

They're still in mental chains, and vote for their captors

[@davidwarren3433]

Try over 300 years since slavery in the USA.

[@jennifervaughn1541]

@@davidwarren3433 the usa is only 248 years old how did could it be for over 300 years when we didn’t exist. Slavery ended 1865

[@tonygoochafanchi578]

No one alive today deserves reparations. Stop the insanity.

[@ObiePaddles]

Paid by people who didn’t do it, to people who didn’t experience it. And UK ancestors actually stoped it FFS.

[@groomerkiller3947]

Africans still need to end it in their countries, though

[@antonyleech2967]

And wouldn't it be slavery foe us to have to pay tax to them by law for an outcome we had absolutely no input into

[@davidwarren3433]

UK ancestors stopped slavery but was in the slave trade many, many years before America was, so the UK was into slavery way longer than America! America stopped slavery not long after the UK stopped it! America also only had about 250,000 to 400,000 slaves. The UK and all other slave countries had "WAY" more slaves than America ever had! Not saying it was right though.

[@mogznwaz]

The whole concept of historical reparations is insanity, where do you stop? Focus on justice for the living.

[@sh.4409]

Repatriate the morons wanting it.

[@slinkiegirl2001]

If we ADOS got the same response that the Jews got I would not be feel hard done by FACT we where enslaved for over 500 years worked and died on the plantation you bloody white folks want us to forget about it and pretend like it never happened well newsflash this subject is not going away any time soon so get used to it

[@johncobourne361]

Well, as reparations started with compensation to the slave owners, compensation for being enslaved would be an obvious place "to stop".

[@Pandermoanium]

And all of them are now dead. So no payments need to be made.

[@sh.4409]

@@johncobourne361 We only paid the debt off in 2015. How about a rebate for the ones who paid instead.

[@dennisbohner6876]

I am withdrawing any thought about paying someone for what was done in the past. NONE of my family was here. They all worked their butts off. They lived in the North exclusively. Now connect that with a debt.

[@susandrydenhenderson6234]

The scourge of slavery affected individuals in nearly every culture, region, and era of history. Although the term “slave” often conjures thoughts of the atrocities committed during the Transatlantic Slave Trade, the practice of enslaving human beings was common in both ancient and modern times and persists to this day. Presently, the estimated number of individuals enduring enslavement ranges from 38,000,000 to 46,000,000, highlighting the ongoing nature of this abhorrent practice.

[@ireneesch8555]

Total insanity. Slavery was illegal in Illinois. Apart from that how are today's black people suffering from slavery?

[@mstwelvedeadlycyns]

Whether illegal or not, it was still wrong.

[@lc6636]

@@mstwelvedeadlycynsThe poor white people cannot pay for this. They had zero to do with slavery.

[@tdw5933]

There was slave trading in Southern Illinois

[@dailydoser1309]

​@@mstwelvedeadlycynsnobodys arguing that. Thryre arguing why pay out for something they diddnt do. Would you pay a parking ticket your great great great grandfather even if he diddnt own a car?

[@DebraCTrialByFireProductions]

@@dailydoser1309 We are already paying for the jewish community and the migrant situation.. Our issues do not count to America.,

[@andrewbayram765]

Why when this subject comes up is it only the trans Atlantic slave trade that is quoted??? What about the role of African leaders and their culture at the time, the role of Arabs and Islam in the African slave trade, the Barbury Coast slave traders, the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire. Even more importantly why aren't we working towards ending the modern slave trade still going on??

[@Goldenlion148]

Slavery continues today in many African and Arab countries. China too for that matter.

[@sarahkroese9030]

Yes! Exactly!!! The biggest slave trade today (which is also larger than the one in the west 2-3 centuries ago) still exists and is thriving. In Islamic and African countries it's still happening daily and no one talks about that 😢 Probably because the perpetrators are "brown people"

[@catwoman7462]

Yes. In fact slavery has been the norm within humans.

[@Jen-mf9rm]

No-one else is dumb enough to pay out? Maybe?

[@justaminute3111]

You forgot that this is a plot to bankrupt the West. No joke. If these guys don’t have a clue, they are either ignorant or controlled opposition.

[@Norm100ful]

“The madness of this is at epic proportion.” Well said.

[@slyfoxx2973]

If you give a mouse a cookie he'll want a glass of milk.

[@muddywitch9016]

As an Irish descendant, where is my repetitions for the Irish woman taken to the Caribbean as the first slaves?

[@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108]

Indentured servant

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

As the decendant of victims of Italian fascism 1922-45 , Italys PM Meloni better get out the checkbook

[@muddywitch9016]

@@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 An indentured servant who was bred to black male slaves to produce children capable of withstanding the heat. Isn’t that called slavery? I think so!

[@Jen-mf9rm]

They were also trafficked to new York, as wives for businessmen and merchants there.

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

@muddywitch9016 Indenturement is not chattel slavery, and it was not just Irish, it was Scots,' Welsh, English and people from elsewhere in europe who were indentured... or transported as criminals. We may all agree that the laws were horrendous and wrong in terms of what people were actually imprisoned and transported for, but it's not the same as slavery and it's not exclusive to Irish people either.

[@angelreder9064]

Many of my family fought against slavery and now they say I owe them something. Do they owe me something because of my ancestors that gave their lives to abolish slavery

[@lindar6326]

THE GOVERNMENT LEGALLY ALOTTED 40 ACRES AND A MULE AFTER SLAVERY, PAY THAT OR THE MONETARY EQUIVALENT. FUN FACT , SLAVE OWNERS WERE PAID REPARATIONS AFTER SLAVERY ENDED. NOT IN THE BOOKS THOUGH.

[@carolwilliams8281]

I'm of Irish descent. Perhaps hundreds of years ago, my ancestors were slaves. Reparations for us? No, thank you, such reparations are stupid.

[@AremuJejeofdavillage]

Slavery was the backbone of the U.S. economy. Your family fought to stop the south from forming its own country; not to end slavery. Slavery was only outlawed later in the war to cripple the southern economy. States that didn’t secede from the union like Maryland were allowed to continue owning slaves…the “Emancipation Proclamation” did not apply to them.

[@AremuJejeofdavillage]

@@carolwilliams8281​​⁠Your family were indentured servants; they had a limited term for service and their children were born free. They were never slaves or bred like cattle

[@windingroad9196]

​@@AremuJejeofdavillageI'm sorry, but the Civil War began because of slavery... the notion that the South wanted to create their own country came long after the beginning of the war. The South was losing, and that was their solution so they didn't have to lose. I always found it funny for the group of people who claim that others are trying to reinvent history... are reinventing history. You are incorrect on every level of your statement. Crack a book and learn something.

[@KingOfGamesss]

Can you imagine hearing the cost of a ransom being "Reparations"

[@Fashion-fh5fr]

Reparations legal argument is “Lineage” not “Race” for the American Black Citizens who are the generational legacy of American Descendants Of Slavery who are owed a debt for an injustice of historical proportions …

[@michaelairley2015]

Can England get our reperations from 800 years of Rome and The Vikings please?

[@paulmessenger1006]

Dont forget france and the Normans.

[@dixiecyrus8136]

And the Barbary pirates from northern Africa 🤣🤣🤣 who raided the Irish and Scottish coast in dark age Europe.

[@youtubeyoutube936]

Well if you angle Saxon you were post Roman and so you should compensate the Welsh

[@1gerard47]

And the Scottish for what the English done to us?

[@Grace-ms7un]

​@@paulmessenger1006 😂 robin hood is still waiting lol.

[@kennethrichardson8311]

Europe tried reparations against 1919 Germany and we all know how that went!

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

I think you put your finger on exactly why they’re doing this. You have to remember that everything the Marxists do is aimed at causing total societal collapse so that they can usher in their idea of utopia, which is basically that all the proles live in the pods and eat the bugs while the elites live in their dachas and eat steak.

[@oliverhenri3477]

I totally forgot about that. 👍

[@daniellemcelvaine9496]

Yeah I wouldn't recommend going that route....LOTTA WHITE PEOPLE WITH LOTTA GUNS

[@ToFester]

But Germany paid reparations to the Jews for their actions. You really didn't know that?

[@ToFester]

From 1945 to 2018, the German government paid approximately $86.8 billion in restitution and compensation to Holocaust victims and their heirs. You really didn't know that?

[@bf6159]

People who never owned slaves paying reperations to people who were never slaves, in a State where slavery was never a thing. No African Americans were paid reperations, Black Americans were given money as to entertain fraud, satisfy misplaced guilt, and to maintain a sense of victimization. Race has been repeatedly thrust into the spotlight and made a matter of contention by those who manage and profit from maintaining a system of dependencey which promotes self victimization and blaming others. This is simply another measure focused on maintaining more animosity, resentment, and division. And, championed globally as to direct attention away from slavery abroad, IRL.

[@TheAllisonLab]

As a woman of Jamaican and Scottish ancestry, blaming my European friends for something their ancestors did 400 years ago is absurd. Should I, then also seek reperations from the African tribes that sold African slaves to Europeans? And also the Arabs that had black slaves? Where does it end, people? Let's move *_on._*

[@ScragNath]

Pay up once and they will be back for more.

[@ObiePaddles]

That’s what we found in NZ.

[@frederickshawgrove622]

@ScragNath 👏👏👏👏👏 completely agree with you!

[@WinkLinkletter]

We have, they are.

[@toodlepop]

every generation of black people is going to want a reparations payment "just to survive". and no one is going to ask what happened to the "generational wealth".

[@shaynia-shai]

Like slavery. Start with 1 slave will have more slaves

[@VPDJTrump]

You could give every one of them 100k and they would all be broke in a week demanding they recieve more. It would NEVER end.

[@ian.swift.31614]

Imagine having our politicians sell us to China for some lithium. That's essentially what has happened 400 years ago to a very very very small amount of black people who live in the US. And they think it's justice to go after the country who bought their ancestors, rather than their ancestor's country who sold their ancestors.

[@allensacharov5424]

yep

[@josephpearlman4010]

I would be willing to give them 100k if they renounce their citizenships and move their families to the country of their ancestors.

[@jimdouglas4387]

The first place it will be spent is the closest Dodge dealer.

[@lindar6326]

THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DEMAND MORE UNDER CONTRACTS. SO PAY THEM OR SUFFER AS THE EGYPTIANS DID

[@dukey19941]

I live near Evanston. Not surprised at all they did this. You don’t want to walk the wrong street there without getting jumped.

[@mikebrock9615]

If they need compensation of some kind, they should be seeking it from their own people that sold them into slavery to begin with. Anything else is just asking for handouts especially since none of them actually experienced slavery.

[@guineapigsarecute1118]

They are ignoring the fact that modern day slavery still exists in over 100 countries, but hyper focused on only one part of slavery, and omitting the rest of historical slave trade. It's a human condition, not racial.

[@ian.swift.31614]

It's not about justice. It's about racism and hatred for whites.

[@springerworks002]

Slavery still exists in the US. All sexes, races, and religions are targets of slavers.

[@stevenjoseph9381]

Ignorance. Not you, them. Every race has been a slave. Africa was the #1 slave trader of all races. So the world owes the world by their arguments.

[@ToFester]

No pretty sure chattel slavery was a racial thing.

[@stevenjoseph9381]

@ToFester original it was not racial since it was same race enslaving same race but what was considered lower classes. Out of race (enslaving and trading of other races) enslaving didn't come until the abilities to travel and transport over seas was established.

[@GregD-xu2zb]

the town should not only be sued the town government should be removed and replaced

[@frankherman5195]

Reparations should come from their drug money.

[@guysolis5843]

Right. Democratically run cities are all going down the tubes. Look what's happening to Denver. Governor Polis is actually being considered to step in for Biden and the same thing with California's Newsome. Those are the worst people in the country and the evil left wants THEM? This isn't about reparations, it's about crippling cities.

[@PaulMichael-pp9pt]

My great grandma was r-worded in 1929. I want my reparations now !!! 😂😂😂

[@cashkitty3472]

We should count all the aid given to Africa over the years as repatriations. Stop it. Say we have paid the debt and stop this convo. It's ridiculous

[@christinalayzelle832]

And all the benefits paid to the descendants in Western countries.

[@ToTheTower]

Why? They sold them and made a profit. If they can't invest and make their own lives better after 200+ years that's not our (or anyone elses) fault

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

The Aid given over the past decades is nothing ... some of those regions didn't even have the wheel. Europe transferred centuries of hard earned societal advances and technologies, bringing the living standards of those countries up to the modern age. That has transformed the lives of millions of people in Africa for the better. Africa literally owes Europe centuries worth of advances that it;s populations did not earn. You are being taken for the biggest grift in History!

[@Leo_Pard_A4]

One of the biggest mistakes was that the missionaries brought dokters with them. ​@@frankyyaggabot6222

[@Leo_Pard_A4]

One of the biggest mistakes was that the missionaries brought dokters with them. ​@@frankyyaggabot6222

[@jaysonwilchinsky5991]

Basically your being mugged

[@slinkiegirl2001]

Tell me something would you do a back breaking job from sunset set to sun down in between you get beaten starved worked to death would you work under them conditions and then you do not get paid for the day/week would you stand for it well x that treatment by 500 years Get back to me you bloody whites always condemn reparations.every atrocity the tanks committed against people.the native Indians got billions the Japanese that where in internment camps got compensated the Jews where given millions even though America did not partake in the holocaust I want your response if not keep your mouth shut

[@adetolaayodele3425]

and as such, you are voting Reform.

[@thepm3972]

Last mugger I met gave me money. Guess he knew it was coming 😮

[@DeMan59]

By the same suspects. Again.

[@larryforeman]

Will we being mugged when we had to pay for half of the world to fix itself Are you saying America should never help another country ever again Because I agree To be honest Ukraine should pay us back The Middle East should pay us back Mexico and Venezuela should pay us back

[@amandanelhams6198]

I want reparations for the dinosaur that crapped in my garden millions of years ago!😂

[@susandrydenhenderson6234]

What do they think most of the world was like at that time? Slavery was for thousands of years a universal practice. Long before the transatlantic slave trade of Africans sold by Africans to European and Arab traders to their shores (Europeans generally didn’t disembark because of hostile territory and disease), Africans had for a longer period on a larger scale raided British and European shores and kidnapped people as slaves. Whilst slavery had long been abolished throughout the British Empire, most of the world had seen no wrong in it and opposed British patrols sent to end it around the world. America was a wild and new place with civilization being newly implemented with land and power struggles. In any case, most places in the world are still much worse for most people.

[@Grumpy-sy7wr]

There's a push on for similar in Australia, but for what allegedly happened to a portion of the earlier inhabitants, 250 years ago. The ones pushing the hardest for it, are the ones who are most diluted with white blood.

[@cliveo3]

I am still waiting for my reparations from Italy ,i still have nightmares about the day i was minding my own business sat in my deckchair ,enjoying a day at the beach and a Roman Galley turned up and completely destroyed my day .

[@BigMama61]

I'll never get that Viking axe out of my back door

[@davidbarlow350]

Yeah,what have the Romans ever done for us,eh?

[@ObiePaddles]

And the Scandinavian countries because of their marauding Vikings

[@paulb1214]

Agree..! Lol

[@ChadBoss-qr4hl]

@@davidbarlow350 A system of roads?

[@Talk_4_UK]

I was physically assaulted in a London Southern Train by a young black women, for no reason. The police didn't do anything because the train company didn't hand over the CCTV. I want reparations. There are a lot more stories.

[@wrongthinker843]

13/56

[@walte153]

My brother was stabbed by 3 of these "youths" when they tried to rob him. He spent more time in the hospital than they spent in jail. He spent 10 days... the one caught was "only a kid" (16 years old) and nothing ever happened to him: no jail, no house arrest, no nothing. Where's his check?

[@talisikid1618]

What about people having such mixed genetic makeups? Do you pay yourself reparations?

[@catwoman7462]

My ancestors worked in the Manchester factories. They had nothing to apologise for, and neither do I.

[@larryforeman]

My ancestors have never been to the Ukraine Yet I paid for them to come here and be rude an ungrateful My family has nothing to do with Venezuelan wars My family don't want to go to Mexico don't need to go to Mexico and don't even like Mexicans We pay taxes for each and every last one of them

[@tedthesailor172]

People who did nothing wrong are paying money to people who were never wronged - go figure...

[@ToFester]

Never wronged? Clearly you know nothing about America and it's racist history or you're willfully ignoring it.

[@tedthesailor172]

@@ToFester The people being paid are in the present. How were they wronged, and how did the people in the present wrong them...?

[@ToFester]

@@tedthesailor172 It's not about the people it's about the actions of the US government. Japanese Americans received reparations. Yet questions like how did the people in the present wrong them isn't said.

[@tedthesailor172]

@@ToFester After WW2 the interned Japanese Americans were still alive. There are no slaves alive today, nor can any living descendant claim that slavery has compromised the quality of their lives...

[@ToFester]

@@tedthesailor172 But slavery has compromised the quality of their lives. After slavery was abolished Blacks in America had to endure centuries of systematic racism. Which was created specifically to focus on their ethnic group and keep them down. Reparations for them is for more then just for slavery.

[@torturedsoul8066]

I am pretty sure giving away tax dollars under such a plan would be unconstitutional. Even if their ancestors were harmed by slavery they were privately owned. The government would bear no responsibility because they were simply following the history and traditions of the world at the time. The Court itself would look at the laws at the time of slavery and say they had committed no crime. It was only until they made slavery a crime was it illegal. Then you will have to prove linage. This would only apply to direct descendants of slaves. A fact recipients would have to prove. I do not see this issue succeeding. They knew it would fail when they offered it.

[@sandrad9695]

I live near San Francisco and it’s already bankrupt.

[@mademsoisellerhapsody]

SF needs to wake up.

[@sandrad9695]

@@mademsoisellerhapsody Yes, it does, but the wackos have reigned in SF for decades. Not sure if they ever will wake up. 😢

[@davidprince1138]

Reparations- welfare (food, medical care, rent), opportunities (DEI, college entrance), etc.

[@robertcorleone9077]

This right here. 100

[@ToFester]

Yeah but white women are the majority of who benefit off of all of that stuff you typed.

[@hey.hombre]

Buying votes.

[@shockawha9]

add to that: having your food or groceries delivered and you tip bait

[@ToFester]

Yeah but white women benefit off the majority of all that stuff you typed.

[@johnjones4129]

As a white man I am going to identify as a black man and move to San Fransisco.........

[@pmc2999]

I do love the "white passing" black people. Damn oxymoron. I want everyone to take a DNA test and if you turn out to be less than 50% black you can pay reparations to your self.

[@gew2027]

Emblem of America 1798 the Emblem was.approved by the Continental Congress in 1801 . White people already done that America have a lot of 5 dollar INDIANS

[@ginalowe1924]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-qj6wj5kz3x]

Good man yourself. 😂but remember that only applies when it suits them 🤷‍♀️

[@Darrylizer1]

You really don't want to live in San Francisco these days.

[@toddtourville984]

San Fransico giving blacks 5 mil each when they cannot fix the homeless problem that is overrunning that state. That opens the door for them to be sued for that.

[@bluered3228]

"Redistributing Wealth" is a very polite way of saying "stealing".

[@gentriage]

Only a small percentage of Americans ever owned slaves. Most people wouldn’t have been able or willing to pay for one. There are millions of Americans from families who didn’t even arrive in America until after slavery was over, many Italian immigrants came in the early 1900’s, including my family. They were peasant farmers in Italy and there were no slaves working for them anywhere. They were horribly discriminated against when they arrived but they worked hard and overcame it. My husband is Native American, enough said there. So what are we paying for? Where’s my husband’s reparations? Maybe we should all get reparations. I’m sick to death of this BS. The money will be spent in no time and they’ll be coming back for more. Where will it end?

[@Seals-jv3fd]

💯

[@DeMan59]

Exactly. Give them a million dollars and they’ll be back in a week demanding more.

[@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630]

At the height of slavery about 5% of the population in America owned slaves. It was mostly extremely rich people that owned plantations and they had hundreds of slaves. The average person didn't own slaves they were just trying to survive. Edit... There were also black slave owners in America. People don't realize that they were actually black people who owned black slaves in America. So do the black descendants of those black slave owners owe other black people reparations? And if you trace black Americans whose ancestors were slave back far enough into Africa there would be times in Africa where their ancestors also owned slaves. So do the Black American descendants of slavery in America all other people in Africa reparations? It's all just stupid, it's just children trying to think of any excuse they can to get something for free.

[@Nomad261]

Good for them , it is racist to give peoples money for false claims , disgusting .

[@rogerhanson3468]

We need to get the names of everyone who received a check, because being an American aboriginal I want to charge them for the land they are living on, the water they use, and for past rental fees for their ancestors.

[@jamesgpevans9421]

Modern day slavery needs to be a focus today rather than ancient slavery that we can do nothing about.

[@phobicismist5858]

It's the old "give an inch, take a mile." No matter what they get they will always demand more and do nothing to earn it.

[@angelawallismoore2283]

Slavery still exists in parts of Africa and Asia. It even occurs in isolated incidents within the immigrant communities in the West.

[@D-E-S_8559]

Yeh! because immigrants in the west use s£,x slaves....???

[@larryforeman]

Good thing we're talking about America I don't think you guys are smart enough to put in on this topic

[@captainmanic]

I`m Christian. Can I claim against Italy for all of the Christians who were fed to the lions?

[@TerryHall-nm8gt]

So you could have an african who's family deals in slaves move over & get reparations for something they are not the victim of but the violator! Crazy

[@cyberleaderandy1]

You cant believe how utterly racist and delusional these people in charge are and that they absolutely deserve to be sued.

[@DrDeliciou]

What makes even less sense is that slavery never existed in Illinois... it was illegal there. So there is no basis at all for reparations. California also never had slavery... it is crazy how either of these states should be talking reparations.

[@gew2027]

American history is a big lie Emblem of the Americas 1798 The definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 . The people you call black and African Americans are the copper colored people of the Americas

[@Lycanthroat1978]

Drives a Ford and works in the local factory? I doubt it. Most likely drives a Benz, is unemployed, and is on every government subsidiary there is.

[@nicholasfink6170]

The funny thing is people believe they're not slaves. The owners constantly tell them what they can and can't do. The definition of the word slave is very clear people should look it up

[@OhDear-qc9qb]

Paying reparations to people who were never slaves , by people who were never slave owners 😂😂

[@BadAppleBlues]

The slaves were captured by their fellow Africans and traded to the evil white man for beads, whiskey etc. Surely the reparations should be paid by the people who caught and sold them in the first place!

[@rodneywoodcock8235]

In a town that was in a free state.

[@glenfinston704]

Precisely

[@shaynia-shai]

Paying for holocaust survivors when their ancestors died in the holocaust not them & America wasn't part of the holocaust. Tell them to repay it back.

[@user-sg4vp2hm2v]

England stopped slavery 😂

[@susanritter2520]

Wilberforce House at Hull stands as proof of that.

[@susandrydenhenderson6234]

The compensation of slave owners around the world by the British was to enable the safe and peaceful release of them, because slave owners, particularly the North African and Arab slavers, would kill them or throw them overboard if they saw the British approaching to free them, and many British naval personnel were being killed in trying to stop the widespread deeply culturally ingrained practice around the entire globe. It might have taken Parliament two hundred years to abolish it (but they did it at a time when the rest of the world saw no wrong in it and was strongly determined to continue). You can’t especially condemn the nation that did by a vast margin the most to stop a thing just because it was once similar to the rest of the world. We did so voluntarily, and alone decide it was wrong and not only end our own participation in facilitating the transport and trade for the enslaving and trading nations around the world but spent our own time, money and lives ensuring it was ended everywhere insofar as we were able. Nobody else came near to such an important and advanced moral development and action. Compensation by the British had one purpose, to free the enslaved. It wasn’t in recognition of any wrong doing, and those around the world that captured, enslaved and sold the slaves (usually their own people) would surely be the first legal target for that.

[@susandrydenhenderson6234]

The compensation of slave owners around the world by the British was to enable the safe and peaceful release of them, because slave owners, particularly the North African and Arab slavers, would kill them or throw them overboard if they saw the British approaching to free them, and many British naval personnel were being killed in trying to stop the widespread deeply culturally ingrained practice around the entire globe. It might have taken Parliament two hundred years to abolish it (but they did it at a time when the rest of the world saw no wrong in it and was strongly determined to continue). You can’t especially condemn the nation that did by a vast margin the most to stop a thing just because it was once similar to the rest of the world. We did so voluntarily, and alone decide it was wrong and not only end our own participation in facilitating the transport and trade for the enslaving and trading nations around the world but spent our own time, money and lives ensuring it was ended everywhere insofar as we were able. Nobody else came near to such an important and advanced moral development and action. Compensation by the British had one purpose, to free the enslaved. It wasn’t in recognition of any wrong doing, and those around the world that captured, enslaved and sold the slaves (usually their own people) would surely be the first legal target for that.

[@larryforeman]

Because they wanted to cripple America They knew that America's backbone was slavery Then they understood that they can use colonization how to replace slavery which is something they never stopped

[@ronnythemenace]

Let's use the same legal logic for murderers who doesn't get caught when they are alive, and with the murder solved after the murderers death, the murderers children or grandchildren goes to jail or has to pay a sum of money to the victim's family. It's simply ridiculous!

[@crazy4u20]

bureaus, agencies... regulations...... Supreme Court ruling very good for USA.

[@FrankPeterson-uk9ky]

It is time the black community made reparations for using all the inventions that we have made.

[@gew2027]

Emblem of the Americas 1798 it's time for the American Government tell the truth.Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 . We're the copper colored people of the Americas and not black or Afican American

[@gew2027]

And the best paintings are in the British Museum

[@Americaisgreat1-w3f]

Good! I hope those that paid get sued themselves!!! Reparations should not be paid to anyone, when it comes to slavery! Not one slave or slave owner is alive today to pay or get paid.

[@roymcnicholas4825]

My grandparents on both sides were from Ireland I was born in the UK should I claim for all the crapp that went on right back to the potato famine, no I shouldn't because I wasn't alive then nor were my grandparents it's ridiculous.

[@jeffcraig3041]

I would be fine with giving you a potato as reperations lol and yes i do agree with you

[@roymcnicholas4825]

@@jeffcraig3041 potatoe would be fine i can make some chips

[@jeffcraig3041]

I would,nt go crazy it's a small potato

[@basic_unit]

The other side of reparations is who pays? Would you have to pay reparations to Ireland or do have a pass? Can you imagine how much money it would cost to check everyone's pass? Reparations are impractical.

[@catwoman7462]

My ancestors on my mum's side were from Ireland, and I 100% agree with you. People who are grifting for 'reparations' talk about "generational trauma" as if what their ancestors went through is somehow also part of their own memories. Most of my ancestors were poor, working in factories, but I don't have this "generational trauma" nonsense of struggling like they had.

[@jpman9795]

WITAF is going on in Illinois? Did their governor suddenly forget that she took an oath to the Constitution? She's acting a lot like a queen who thinks she makes the laws there. She needs to be charged with treason against her country.😮

[@kellycook7854]

It is definitely insane. More insanity is that survivors of the Lahaina Maui who lost everything get a one time government check for $700.

[@petersmith2248]

Perhaps when these "reparations" are paid, Britain should send an invoice to the relatives of the people that the Royal Navy freed from slavery by being taken to the USA.....!

[@anthonybartlett6924]

do the descendants of black slave owners get reparations as well?

[@IsabellaMoss-oj]

I want reparations for all my ancestors who fought and died to end slavery.

[@gew2027]

​@@IsabellaMoss-ojEmblem of the Americas 1798 I want the American Government to tell the truth. Definition of American Webster first Edition 1828 white people are Native Americans to right along with the other Native Americans.But the people you call black are the copper colored people of the Americas. We're not black or Afican American we are the true definition of American

[@ChadBoss-qr4hl]

How do they determine the applicant's race? If I look otherwise white, but I have a DNA test proving African ancestry, would I get paid? How many drops of blood are required to be considered a person of color?

[@ArthurGibb-ps4dy]

Hello,i just went to vote in basildon Essex,and they refused my vote due to not having a picture id card,i had my bank cards letters from the bank from the council and from my hospital as im ill,im waiting on the police as i let them have a few choice words,what the hell they accept postal votes with no id at all an Englishman cant vote when he turns up this is a bloody disgrace,is there any thing i can do please help, i am bloody livid

[@imbonkers3629]

Can I identify as a Blackman 🤔

[@Goldenlion148]

You can identify as anything you want love. Let's all do it.

[@woodyforest7308]

Oh no not allowed. Computer says NO

[@adetolaayodele3425]

No but I bet your next line will be ''I am voting Reform

[@Leigh69]

@@adetolaayodele3425he might not be but I am

[@youngconservative3299]

​@@Goldenlion148 Of course since we're all self identifying these days.

[@05Rudey]

I see another white flight coming.

[@pauleverman6947]

lets get one thing straight they are stealing tax/peoples money and giving it away, its not theirs to give away, they should be immediately removed from office and thrown in jail for theft

[@user-vy9ve1ow4n]

Enough is enough. You will pay resperation. That it and that all.😢

[@kitchensieve8187]

This is great news as only last week I identified as a black African man..Can't believe my luck!

[@user-qu7ou8qy6s]

😂👏🏽👏🏽

[@dennisdean7433]

👍😆😂🤣Stoppp! Now you want your reparations🤔😆🤣

[@dominiclane8538]

Its absolutely insanity ,these people making these ridiculous decisions shoukd be in jail for fraud

[@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108]

Who is it fraud

[@christinalayzelle832]

@@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 Taking money from taxpayers who had nothing to do with it, to give it to people who had nothing to do with it.

[@dukey19941]

@@christinalayzelle832that and the fact you cannot prove just by someone’s color if they were a slave. The whole thing should be illegal.

[@christinalayzelle832]

@@dukey19941 Yes, of course it should.

[@garyoneill545]

Wait till Labour get in????

[@adetolaayodele3425]

And as such, you are voting Reform.

[@adetolaayodele3425]

@aimeehind8438 idiots. Reform will come close but ultimately lose, Farage's political stardom will gradually fade away, and another non-White person will be PM in future.

[@hazelthorp317]

​@@adetolaayodele3425bot

[@tenniskinsella7768]

Nightmare when labour get in

[@user-qu7ou8qy6s]

Yes, REFORM 🇬🇧

[@Seventizz]

Completely bonkers. Imagine the laughs the recipients had cashing such a ridiculous excuse to receive a $25k cheque lol.

[@MrBillmartin1]

1000s of British sailors lost their lives patrolling the seas stopping slave ships. The British had a saying hundreds of years ago " English air is to pure for a slave to breathe" which meant any slave of any colour became free the moment they put one foot on English soil. This came about after a slave jumped ship and ran away from his master. The case went to court. The slave was set free, stayed in the country got a job, got married and had a family.

[@papakrampus3062]

Reparations are discriminatory and must be challenged in court. What about the Irish, Poles, Mexican, Asians, Indians and other migrants that suffered discrimination and low wages amounting to indentured servitude? What about my family that is now 5 generations post-immigration and still stuck in the lower-middle class with no generational inherited pass-down wealth? What about the working poor like us? Unfair and inequitable, that's what reparations represent to the rest of paycheck-to-paycheck struggling working class families.

[@hellsbells7271]

No one living today is worthy of reparitions for something they never experienced, get out , get a job and pay for your damn self

[@dukey19941]

But it’s easier playing the victim card.

[@booshting3520]

People who never owned slaves, paying reparation to people who wre never slaves

[@SilverWatcher.]

My family fought to free the slaves I want my fair cut too. We bled for those who cry today

[@roymcleish]

Opening a Mandelbrot can-o-worms looks just like that. What is "owed" is no race.

[@jackdimambro484]

I want 5 million from the Normans. Not the French, but specifically I want the tax money from the Normandy region. I am yet to get over the TRAUMA of the conquest.

[@davetdowell]

We must hold the Vikings accountable too. They must owe us 2 or 3 times the entire GDP output of Norway, as reperations for all their raping and pillaging.

[@obisan666]

You leading this years pride parade by any chance?

[@MeatFeast-qk7nd]

🎉​@@obisan666

[@glenfinston704]

Lol

[@Darrylizer1]

Historical trauma is a thing! Apparently.

[@greenhills7404]

Western countries should just create laws to outright ban reparations and compensation etc for slavery and the past in general. Job done and discussion over! As these people will intend to carry on for years and years and just keep banging on about it! We need to shut the conversation down

[@livequality4578]

Good, glad they got sued. Paying reparations to non-slaves is stupid.

[@ChaadFairservice20022]

Feedjng animals.. sue the west for welfare

[@AremuJejeofdavillage]

Your ignorance is astounding 😮

[@livequality4578]

@@AremuJejeofdavillage You're not one to speak about ignorance. GET A JOB!!!!

[@AremuJejeofdavillage]

@@livequality4578 yet another ignorant response. Smh

[@livequality4578]

​@@AremuJejeofdavillageShake your unrighteous head all you want, but fill out a job application while you do it.

[@dswynne]

I suspect that if the economy wasn't so crappy at the moment, this issue wouldn't be a thing.

[@gazman50s]

since slavery is illegal charge the people getting the reparation with being in the country illegally

[@keithblower1091]

My Grandmother lost three brothers in the first world war, they probably enlisted because everyone said it was patriotic. How much will I receive for thee lost great uncles? How will compensation be paid to their children who will never exist?

[@D-E-S_8559]

Send the bill to the Germans --- the MauMau sent the bill to the Queen and she settled....

[@forthfarean]

Britain freed the slaves in the West Indies. What are they moaning about? No one there has been enslaved for 200 years. None of them ever decided to go back to Africa either.

[@Kivuh]

Encouraging African-Americans to consider withholding their votes in presidential elections until reparations are received is a powerful and thought-provoking idea. "Let us recognize the incredible strength and influence of our collective voice. For centuries, African-Americans have fought tirelessly for justice, equality, and recognition of our fundamental rights. Today, we stand at a critical juncture in our history, where we have the opportunity to demand the acknowledgment of past injustices and the implementation of long-overdue reparations. By exercising our right to vote strategically, we can send a resounding message to the nation and the world: that we refuse to accept the status quo any longer. We can use our voting power as a tool for change, insisting that our political leaders prioritize the issue of reparations. Our unity and determination can compel those in power to address the legacy of slavery, segregation, and systemic racism that continues to impact our communities today. Imagine the impact of millions of African-Americans coming together to demand reparations as a prerequisite for our support in presidential elections. Our collective stance would reverberate across the political landscape, igniting conversations, debates, and, ultimately, action. By leveraging our voting power in this way, we can demonstrate that we will no longer settle for empty promises or superficial gestures. Let us remember the trailblazers and activists who paved the way for our rights and opportunities. Let us honor their legacy by using our votes as a force for change, a demand for justice, and a catalyst for progress. Together, we can inspire a new chapter in our nation's history, one that acknowledges the painful truths of our past and paves the way for a more equitable and inclusive future. Our decision to withhold our votes until reparations are addressed is a declaration of our worth, our dignity, and our unwavering commitment to a fair and just society. It is a call to action, a rallying cry for accountability and reparative justice. Let us stand together, empowered by our history and driven by our vision for a better tomorrow. Our votes are not just ballots; they are instruments of change, and we will use them to shape a future that reflects our values, respects our experiences, and honors our resilience."copy paste and share.

[@Kivuh]

Encouraging African-Americans to consider withholding their votes in presidential elections until reparations are received is a powerful and thought-provoking idea. "Let us recognize the incredible strength and influence of our collective voice. For centuries, African-Americans have fought tirelessly for justice, equality, and recognition of our fundamental rights. Today, we stand at a critical juncture in our history, where we have the opportunity to demand the acknowledgment of past injustices and the implementation of long-overdue reparations. By exercising our right to vote strategically, we can send a resounding message to the nation and the world: that we refuse to accept the status quo any longer. We can use our voting power as a tool for change, insisting that our political leaders prioritize the issue of reparations. Our unity and determination can compel those in power to address the legacy of slavery, segregation, and systemic racism that continues to impact our communities today. Imagine the impact of millions of African-Americans coming together to demand reparations as a prerequisite for our support in presidential elections. Our collective stance would reverberate across the political landscape, igniting conversations, debates, and, ultimately, action. By leveraging our voting power in this way, we can demonstrate that we will no longer settle for empty promises or superficial gestures. Let us remember the trailblazers and activists who paved the way for our rights and opportunities. Let us honor their legacy by using our votes as a force for change, a demand for justice, and a catalyst for progress. Together, we can inspire a new chapter in our nation's history, one that acknowledges the painful truths of our past and paves the way for a more equitable and inclusive future. Our decision to withhold our votes until reparations are addressed is a declaration of our worth, our dignity, and our unwavering commitment to a fair and just society. It is a call to action, a rallying cry for accountability and reparative justice. Let us stand together, empowered by our history and driven by our vision for a better tomorrow. Our votes are not just ballots; they are instruments of change, and we will use them to shape a future that reflects our values, respects our experiences, and honors our resilience."copy paste and share.

[@forthfarean]

It might be a good idea if black Americans stopped seeking victim status and got on with embracing the culture you enjoy. Stop killing each other and indulging in criminal conduct.who would actually get this money and why? Stop separating yourselves from society and just see yourselves as Americans, drop the prefix. Participate in your country and enjoy the opportunities you have; they are many.

[@dailydoser1309]

​​@@Kivuhnobody would care if we stopped voting. If anything, it would be counter productive! "You wont do what we want, so were going to let you make all the decisions without any input from us! We'll just abide by whatever you decide!" Doesnt sound so good does it? Not to mention, id MUCH rather live here than be stuck in some twig hut because my ancestors stayed in africa. Nobody owes us anything.

[@user-be7tc2bd6e]

Why should they go back to Africa ??? They weren't born in Africa,they were born in america.

[@lesnolan9826]

Here's a little nugget for you ! I would like some reparations from the black community for all of the what soldiers who died freeing them. I believe it was in the number of seven hundred thousand men.

[@imperialjake114]

They should go to Africa and sue the Africa Tribes their ancestors lost battles with, that sold them into slavery. Get some money out of those African countries first.

[@Clint-kr8zm]

We want the gold back from the Vatican

[@adetolaayodele3425]

Until we get all our Artifacts back from the British museum stolen in the course of the invasion of the Benin Empire by the evil forces who were never ivited

[@lothos-tu4uh]

...and from the viking nations...

[@Clint-kr8zm]

@@lothos-tu4uh did they take are gold aswell

[@brianthirling9260]

​@@Clint-kr8zmthe vikings took gold silver and women.

[@fact-o-pedio4603]

​@@brianthirling9260 How will you get back the women???