'It's just useless': Is the tribunal system broken? - Footy Classified | Footy on Nine

[@joeblow8088]

No Edward , it's people like you who f'd it all up

[@SupercoachwithDR]

Robbo ROBBED!! 🤬😡

[@kalebarancelovic]

6:12 Well done Ed, well said

[@Samanater456]

Actually a good rare segment from Eddie

[@RexAlfieLee]

Agreed

[@kalebarancelovic]

Definitety. Glad most people realize that too

[@roc5004]

Yeah I think he put himself on footy classified cause it was popular and some what credible. I haven't watched it since he started on it.

[@kylemcmahon7651]

His thoughts on the afl balls when there not worn in and them being to slippery was actually pretty good :) I think when he goes on about issues that effect the whole afl he is actually great but when he is being a one eyed pie man I can stand him but he loves his club and can't help it

[@RexAlfieLee]

@@kylemcmahon7651 sorry but the stuff used to protect leather balls is slippery sometimes. This to me absolutely shows the better players with their ball handling.

[@maxshiraz3447]

The real problem is the inconsistency. Different rules for different clubs, different rules for different players.

[@TheDirge69]

Took the words out of mouth mate...I agree...

[@michaelfalkner1186]

Well, then, call it what it is: Rigging games. The question is: Is it as legal for a league to rig matches in Australia as it is, say, in the United States?

[@TheDirge69]

@@michaelfalkner1186 is it legal in the US? I would say it should not be legal anywhere.

[@michaelfalkner1186]

@@TheDirge69 As a consequence of the ruling in the US Grand Prix lawsuit filed after most of the teams boycotted the event due to a tire incident, a judge said the only thing an American fan had the right to was "a seat and to see what transpires". This was affirmed with the ruling stopping a Jets fan from suing the NFL and the Patriots for Spygate and all the Hell that caused.

[@c.a.marsupial.1282]

I thought West coast only got one eyed decisions on the field but they also get them at the tribunal.

[@grantharrison5307]

Can we have the Footy show back please 9.30 Thursday nights. The last Variety show on TV.

[@doublesnapdowntownjackson6634]

Lloyd with the mascara

[@jasonfleming3328]

Goes back further then that. Try 2017. I remember the afl said any off the ball hits will be suspended. But they seem to forgotten to suspend dusty martin hit on a Brisbane bloke with his back to him and off the ball. Won a brownlow that year. Same year they suspended a fair tackle all because a player got concussed. That cost dangerfield the brownlow.

[@douglasmace7703]

Agree with Ed

[@c.a.marsupial.1282]

I don't even think a free kick was paid against rioli. Yet if you kick a ball quickly and are bumped as you do it and it goes out of bounds it's a free kick for insufficient intent . I can't watch much footy anymore because they have destroyed it with ridiculous rules and tribunal decisions.

[@SteveggStevegg]

Yep. The AFL are fucki g this game up.

[@adamlouis3725]

scathing!

[@nedslattery9143]

It’s footy sometimes you get hurt.

[@OZDuncan]

Love your work Eddie!

[@katejean7899]

❤

[@balticstain7150]

How are you supposed to mark a ball in some cases........

[@MayoHosko]

I’ve been saying this for 2 years. Michael Christian has to be fired

[@jackwaite4035]

Pathetic by the AFL, how you can strike and hit blokes off the ball and not giving them weeks is a joke, yet your reprimanding players making football acts. Absolutely disgusting.

[@anthonysabato5489]

How about 1.) players are checked for how susceptible their head is for concussion and those with weak heads are not drafted. 2.) If you hit someone and they get injured you do half as much time on the sidelines 3.) Slow the game down so it's not the nonsense, manic, poor skilled run around it is 4.) Get better umpires that have played the game

[@maxxfx4767]

Get rid of Michael Christian and the lawyers

[@thehighlifeaus5694]

The tribunal makes sense in a setting without extensive video coverage of the ground and technology that allows people to make a (reasonably) objective decision without the need for explanation from players. These days rarely does an AFL player need to plead their case as all the evidence is in front of the MRP in 4k definition.

[@richardmiller3839]

Rule on intention, malice. Simple!

[@Patsy7]

rioli didnt hit him on the head he hit his shoulder and his head hit the ground

[@damienamoroso3345]

Why is Lloydee wearing eyeliner

[@AlonsoRules]

Ablett getting off twice for elbowing a player in the head shows how out of touch the tribunal is

[@dimsumbob]

Farshall fellas, FARSHALL.

[@hickomode7643]

😂😂

[@jackcrook4435]

"I dont say that lightly..." ha ha ha

[@TheDirge69]

Farcical, fecal, farshall, facial, factual ..anything goes!

[@daelanthony7027]

Really hard call. Rioli was definitely going for the ball, but turned his hip into the head impact. But the Robinson suspension was over the top. Shouldn't have even been a report on that one.

[@vigour6786]

Turned to protect himself in the contest. I don’t see anything wrong with is since his intent was to spoil the ball which he did and Rowell got up and played for the rest of the game no problem.

[@londonman8688]

he was going for the ball .. knew he was late and went for the player

[@redtiger4352]

If you going for ball (going for mark) you have your hands out infront not your back and hip

[@michaelfalkner1186]

That second one: The problem is: Most of these "Marks of the Year" are blatant illegal push-offs of the player on the ground with the guy's leg. And the margin for error is so small because one person can have the Mark of the Year (and whatever comes with it) and the other go to the Tribunal and lose any chance at the Brownlow, etc.

[@Hunty49]

With the Rioli one, the Sun's player was running with the flight. So according to the panel, run with the flight and no one can touch you.

[@londonman8688]

he wasnt going for the ball

[@victoryline5689]

Round and round in circles every year.

[@HK-jz5sz]

It’s an absolute disgrace that Robinson got rubbed out for standing his ground? This is why I went from every single game to 1 maybe 2 games a week. The game has become a joke. They may as well have little tags hanging out their shorts like touch rugby. Soccer is going to swamp our game as the game moves towards being a partial contact sport. I never thought I would say that but soccer is coming and this crap is going to fastrack Aussie rules being demoted to number 2 in our country

[@HK-jz5sz]

I can tell you one thing, common sense is DEFINITELY NOT sacrosanct…

[@ryanwells6805]

Here's the thing it was not a bump it was a attempt to mark only to relize your opponent has moved into the spot both players were moving and looking at the ball right call by afl and tribunal.

[@benwillis2158]

Good to see someone who hasn't jumped on the bollocks story fox footy has been pumping out and has considered the whole incident, not just the impact.

[@matthewmcleod7319]

If Rowell was injured or knocked out Rioli would’ve gotten 3-5 weeks. He turns his body to not face the ball and leaves the ground way too late and protects only himself

[@benrussian9206]

Why should Rioli have any reason to protect an opponent in the act of going for the ball. Rowell should be aware that contact is coming in that situation and brace for impact. What if Rioli turned the same way yet marked it?

[@matthewmcleod7319]

For one it’s pretty obvious he was never going for the ball, he never put his arms up for the ball, when you chose to leave the ground, you’re responsible for whatever happens. Just like when you choose to bump you’re liable

[@matthewmcleod7319]

Is that why he crosses his arms as he leaves the ground, doesn’t look at the ball and turns his body

[@worker-wf2em]

@Matthew Mcleod except you’re fundamentally wrong about the fact he wasn’t looking at the ball. WC provided plenty of evidence to the tribunal to show Rioli had eyes on the ball going for the mark and only braced last moment when he realised contact was coming. Don’t you think the AFL would’ve pointed out if Rioli didn’t have eyes on the ball at the tribunal if that were the case?

[@kevsmagpies1306]

@@matthewmcleod7319 he chose to bump a player in the head while jumping in the air

[@stevemann16]

I agree with everything you guys mentioned except Rioli's decision was right, he was mid air and couldn't change his mind on the situation. They have to have some sort of benefit of the doubt they are not robots running around with processors built in they are human with human reaction time.

[@SV0747]

Mason cox got dropped off the ball and no suspension for the saint's player

[@m.stherash5769]

BRAD SCOTT! WHAT A PUPPET HE HAS TURNED OUT TO BE! GET RID OF ALL THESE ACTORS AND GET TRUE , HONEST PPL (Eddie) TAKE CARE OF OUR GREAT GAME!

[@nadkilaz8534]

Rioli was a football act, robinson football act. Essendon player, non football act. Its really simple

[@vadersfather1248]

Rioli is a thug has been doing that crap for years so why would he not think he can get away with it ,at least one maybe two weeks should have been the call

[@XcondoX]

As much as much as I get the rules, I dont understand how a players momentum can be held accountable.

[@BKWilliamsJnr]

AFL media, Like this show and others, helped shape this current AFL. Full of grey areas...You all helped create this! dont complain about it now

[@eyeballbilly]

wow I agreed with absolutely everything Eddie said

[@londonman8688]

sorry to say but do certain players get more leeway to make the AFL look more PC

[@jessedavieson5616]

If this was a vic team you would all be backing them! Take a hike and move on.

[@MrBarry465]

It's a contact sport, the players know the risks when they take the field. The AFL is trying to hard to control every possible outcome in terms of contests and injuries, it's idiotic.

[@aidansack7993]

So that justifies a player charging and leaping in to a contest late, eyes off the ball and slams straight in to the players head? What about player protection? Can’t just say “the players know the risks”, and not have rules to discourage serious head injuries otherwise it would be a part of the game to just go straight for an opponents head to cause injury. Obviously in this situation rowell was okay, but that’s just this situation. Stupid in senseless comment from you mate…

[@MrBarry465]

@@aidansack7993 the AFL should be looking to rule out clearly aggressive actions against a player - such as head high bumps which are long gone. This was literally a contest. What do you suggest the AFL does to stop people doing ACLs, stop people from running and jumping? You appear to have missed my point completely and are being hysterical.

[@aidansack7993]

@@MrBarry465 what they are trying to do here is rule out ‘stupid decisions’, such as going into a contest without looking at the ball and slamming in to the opponent’s head. Not aggressive plays, but stupid, careless decisions that could easily cause injury.

[@jamiebrotherston2241]

@@MrBarry465 what about an automatic penalty, 5 mins off the field to receive a paddling from Caroline Wilson.

[@MrBarry465]

@@aidansack7993 making players second guess themselves ruins the game. You can mitigate against deliberate actions, but if the AFL are trying to remove the 50/50 contests we might as well give up watching.

[@richardbehan8118]

It's good the Rioli decision was overturned. What? You want players to get rubbed out for keeping their eyes on the ball? AFL is a laughing stock.

[@Bigdeano75]

Like all big corporations it’s do as I say, not as I do

[@fab4601]

Too scared of the backlash if rioli suspended

[@MozartificeR]

It is called a hip (and shoulder). Does he have eyes for the ball? or eyes for the player? If the answer is the ball, he should be let off. Cos there is the argument, he is just trying to protect himself.

[@jornavyr2459]

Just trying to protect himself by launching at the guys head? No, he was trying to hurt the guy. We can all see the footage. Guy never once even tried to get his hands to the ball.

[@williamporter8355]

Seriously? he jumped three feet in the air. Next time a train approaches a station are you prepared to jump three feet in the air in front of it and claim just trying to protect myself.

[@johndempster4317]

He got winded, not concussed. No free kick. No concussion test. Winded. Play on.

[@dweller6065]

I invite posters to compare the Neil Sachse hit in 1975 (which severed his spinal cord) with the Rioli hit on Rowell. In both cases the opponent who made contact with the victim was running counter to the line of the ball, and jumped into the air which guaranteed heavy contact to the head. I get it that AFL is a chaotic sport, there is no offside and you can't put in hard rules for every situation. Best to keep it simple for the players and emphasize the importance of key principles. If you leave your feet to effect a bump (ie Rioli) when not in possession you have assumed a duty of care. Separately, further to Eddie's point, there should be a video umpire with the power to send an offending player off the ground should they engage in violence which results in injury to the player. People will undoubtedly moan about this - but there is a basic principle of sport at stake here - a team cannot gain a competitive advantage by engaging in illegal violent conduct.

[@zordsps9400]

Well said 👍🏼

[@benwillis2158]

Key point is that he didn't leave the ground to bump. This was a collision, it's incidental. If he was deemed to leave the ground for a bump he gets 5 weeks. He jumps looking at the ball and see another player coming at him mid air. What is he supposed to do? Seriously, what? This is why his actions were ruled as "not unreasonable" and he was let off. He was physically incapable of avoiding the collision.

[@redtiger4352]

@@benwillis2158 he couldnt avoid collision. Correct. But why did he need to turn his backside? If he was going for mark his hands would be in front. If he is going for spoil his hand would be in front.

[@benrussian9206]

I hate to say it however I think FC have nailed it. If its a footy action then it should be play on no report. If its a non football act then throw the book at them. The AFL has created this because very action has a reaction, when you change the fabric of the game from its your responsibility to protect yourself to its everyone else's responsibility to protect you it encourages players to be reckless. Robinson and Rioli should not even have been reported they both protected themselves in the act of trying to win the ball.

[@redtiger4352]

Rioli turning his body is not a football act

[@ironmaidentragic]

What ever happened to intent?

[@Walterz_]

lets say it resulted in a mark, there would be no tribunal, no weeks given, nothing. They're only basing it off the fact that Rowel was on the ground for a sec. But I do agree that if this was Toby Greene there would be weeks given for sure.

[@aaaaab5909]

yeh exactly if the ball carried an extra metre its a not iissue and a "magnificent" mark

[@paulkazakoff9231]

Yeah they would have called it reckless action or unrealistic attempt at going for the ball.Toby Greene 2 weeks, Rioli no weeks.

[@tonijoncevski8607]

You have turned a man’s game into a game for week Sheila’s all because these girlie-boys can’t take a bump.

[@jasongermon1527]

our game is getting soft, accidents happen. When its a complete obvious bump that was intentional then give the player a ban

[@Hehawtyragu]

You think the Rioli one was an accident?

[@benwillis2158]

@@Hehawtyragu Yes. He didn't line Rowell up. How could he, he was looking up at the bloody ball! This was incidental contact, not a bump. That's why his ban was overturned

[@davidagiel8130]

Well, it's not late, and he hit his chest.... They decided he was justified for going for that marking contest, and I don't see an issue.

[@albertpeterson5585]

...yellow and red cards?

[@domeperruzza]

Rioli should be kicked out of football

[@antmac2545]

Both going for the ball nothing sinister in it, but I thought he was up for 1 week.

[@benwillis2158]

The point is how can you suspend a guy that hasn't breached any AFL rules or guidelines? This is why he is free to play. The only way they can't prevent this is to ban running back with the flight because you cant ban jumping for marks.

[@zchettaz]

Rioli and plowman were contesting the ball. Robinson done his best to avoid contact with duursma who was leading with his head but had nowhere to go. All unintentional and all fair game. Cox should have taken his sunnies off, he might have seen the hip n shoulder coming.

[@milododd]

Riewoldt's 'mark of the year' should have been weeks as well. Kamikaze unrealistic attempts aren't 'good footy'.

[@joshuawynne4]

But he marked it... if he didn't mark or get hands to the ball, then it might have been weeks, sure.

[@aaaaab5909]

There is this big hoopla about Willie rioli, yet no issue with players putting knees into the back of players heads going for marks. There is so much hypocrasy and virtue signalling. Imo both robinson and Rioli shouldn't have been suspended

[@dylanstone7931]

As an Essendon supporter I cant believe Draper got away with that but Mitch Robinson got stung. If a rule is a rule, even if you don't agree with it that's fine, that's one thing, but it has to be enforced the same for everyone (repeat offenders not included)

[@petermcculloch4933]

Draper hit his opponents body, which is probably what saved him.

[@dylanstone7931]

@@petermcculloch4933 yeah for sure, and I should clarify, I don't think Draper should have been rubbed out either, I think that's worthy of a hefty fine, it's more about the comparison to Robinson's penalty rather than Draper's individual act

[@seashoree1]

Looks like speccys are going to be a thing of the past. Almost impossible to take a grab on someone's shoulders and protect the head.

[@athlonen]

This is actually a good point. If someone goes up for a mark and in the process knees someone in the back of the head, does the player get rubbed out because of contact to the head? Yes, the marking contest is a football action, but the inconsistency here would dictate that the kneeing in the head while taking a mark would deserve a week.

[@seashoree1]

@@athlonen I'm pretty sure its the whole reason Willie got let off. They argued it was a marking action and not a bump, hence citing the 2004 Riewolt mark.

[@athlonen]

@@seashoree1 But the issue with citing Nick's Mark was that Nick went with the flight, collected his own player (If I remember right, it was knee or leg to the face), and then only caught part of the Sydney defender after Nick had already took the mark and was on the ground. I'm not saying that Rioli should have be out for the week; in fact, the opposite. It was a marking contest, and both players were there at the same time, Rioli was already committed in the air, saw he wasn't going to get there in time, and turned sideways in midair. No real intention to bump, but just happened. If anything I'd see that as play on.

[@viper6177]

Sz, but I can't stand Caroline Williams......

[@Dzonenku]

Even though there are Match Review/Tribunal problems every year, Rd 1 in 2022 has been the most strange set of decisions I can remember. The Riewoldt 2004 mark comparison by by Rioli's defence team is nonsense. Riewoldt had his eyes on a ball behind him, so hard to look at and protect a player coming towards him from the front. He jumped because he would have struggled to reach the ball otherwise. Rioli's ball came from the front. Rioli DID see the player coming towards him from the front, otherwise he would not have turned his body. He didn't need to jump, and unlike Riewoldt, Rioli did not reach the ball first. And what happened to stiking opponents off the ball getting an automatic ban?

[@mattmurphy5419]

Michael Christian has been hopeless since day 1. Im Collingwood and loved the 1990 premiership. He is absolutely hopeless Christian since the day he started and hasn’t got any better

[@alicezecevich2654]

The trouble with the tribunal & the AFL it’s run by the peanut gallery & you don’t get any sense from either, So I have to agree with Eddie on this one for once!!

[@jamiebrotherston2241]

That's why they call it Aussie rules. There's a rule for everything. Is there a fart rule? Do players take a dump on command? Seems like blokes can't get a root without a permission slip.

[@jackhudson2237]

This game really sucks now, too soft.

[@graerindley6312]

you will get many poor decisions as long as you have tribunals dominated by ex footballers.

[@graemeschubert6162]

So should we overhaul the whole legal system like Putin so you have it your way

[@BKWilliamsJnr]

Its a contact sport. He got up and played so whats the deal? For years it was all about the outcome and the action was an after thought. So based on that...Whats the problem here? He got up, Hits will happen because its a contact sport and the fact he got up and played...The recent history of the tribunal, Nothing to look at here!

[@jornavyr2459]

And meanwhile, Mitch Robinson gets suspended just for simply standing in front of a player. Yeah, this is a contact sport for real men 😂

[@BKWilliamsJnr]

@@jornavyr2459 100% agree with you mate

[@cbinsyd]

erh....Eddie is still here.

[@mickdonedee1]

Simple solution: A player running with the flight of the ball into a contested situation only has the option to spoil with both feet on the ground. He cannot contest the mark and cannot spoil by jumping into oncoming traffic.

[@ManBearPig99]

Rowell ducked into it

[@thespookymilkman7015]

Really hope this is sarcasm

[@rod7139]

How did Draper get away with a Fine for striking?

[@wiselistener4978]

AFL is joke.

[@michaelfalkner1186]

Six was light -- the AFL was correct to appeal and win. That should've started at SIX MONTHS. You DO NOT touch the official.

[@mytwosense9135]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnedwards7899]

Gereen's suspension was NOT overtrurned by the AFL. The AFL appealed, the appeal was upheld by the appeals tribnal, and he got 6 weeks. In other words, the AFL did NOT step in and overturn the indepebdent tribunal's decision. The AFL followed correct procedure. If youre going to tell a story Eddie, please stick to the facts. Don't invent a false narrative Twisting things to suit your agenda. doesn't help the cause you're arguing for.

[@alexlanning712]

Eddy Everywhere one of the many know-alls spoiling both AFL&NRL , sniping from the sidelines

[@westwalk9953]

Same vibe as “Get rid of the court system” 🤡