It's Not the Set: Avoiding the Seven

When it comes to playing craps, your chosen set can make all the difference. Dom gives keen advice on sets for avoiding the seven as well as an important word of caution...
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[@wetshavingwithangelo]

I use the hardway set exclusively whenever I’m throwing the dice. Wether it’s at home practicing or at the casino; I get my best rolls on the hardway set. Last time I went to the casino I rolled the dice at least 20 times on one session. Made several point numbers before I finally rolled a 7 out. Thank you Dom for your videos and advice.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Thank you for the kind words! The hardway set is the set I use 98% of the time and I always say that if I use it that much so should everyone Good luck! Dom

[@victordelmastro8264]

I discovered the efficacy of the Hardways set for the Passline bet while modelling OA dice sets in 3D probability space decades ago. I called it the Hardways Butterfly, because it has an edge near SRR 7. Increasing variance takes work. Improving SRR takes touch. I'm sure the discovery filtered out from IrishSetter's BB to you at Golden Touch.

[@TheLouiecat]

Dom I used the 5 count now on random shooters,and I save a lot of money! Thanks..

[@Goldentouchcraps]

It sure does save a ton of money! Good luck! Dom

[@doubled7080]

For many years, my friends and I used the two 3s set. In the other video, you showed what would happen if the dice came off axis, resulting in 6-1 for the 7 out. I can tell you from many of my throws, that 80 percent of my 7 outs were by the 6-1. Now it all makes sense.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Good! Good luck! Dom

[@380_pound_black_womans_sto3]

That six one shit is known as confirmation bias.

[@rudel451]

exact same thing with me...vast majority of my 7 rolls are 6-1

[@geooeh]

Hardways best set ever. Up +300.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Perfect! Dom

[@doakmasarik9862]

When I want to throw a yo bet I set the dice 6 5 up 6 5 facing me. My thinking on this is they are set for big numbers to come up. So I place 25 on the ten. And 50 on the field. Throw my number and i win three bets. If my roll doesn’t come up to 11. It could come up 12 10 9 or craps or three . All are in the field. Tell me what you like or dislike about this bet. I only do it with house money.

[@themaintenanceman387]

this exactly how I throw my come out roll but with the 2/1 on top because I cant throw the perfect roll. lol. $4 horn bet, full press and I shoot for back to back horn numbers on the come out roll to start things off $$$. worst case 7, best case is shoot some horn numbers off the all, tall,small.

[@Miguel-diazzzz]

It’s the throw the bounce everything learn this loosing & winning

[@thomastokarz817]

I have set dice with all different combinations that's including all sevens hardways 2v3v I can set a dice I can tell what I can throw for my next throw will be.

[@chrisrichardson1471]

If I’m trying to avoid 7 why not put the 6-1 on top because I never roll the the number I’m showing on top. I feel like I’m avoiding one of the 7’s if I do that because like I said I never roll that top number

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Never? A very long time. Do yourself a favor and do the test of even just 1000 throws on your practice rig. Use your set and then the hardway set and see which produces less 7's. Good luck! Dom

[@HTlogistics87]

I like the v set personally but for fundamentals the hard way set is the best

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Nothing wrong with using the V sets, but the hardway set will give you the most protection. I use it maybe 90% of the time Dom

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

Unless you are playing the don’t, you want the SEVENon the come out roll. If you have come bets, then you want to avoid the SEVEN on all rolls. So try for a SEVEN that one time you have a Pass Line bet with no come bets on numbers. Then use the hard way set on all other rolls.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Exactly Good luck! Dom

[@christmas10023]

I see your point ☝️

[@Goldentouchcraps]

It is a valid point - it is never the set! Good luck! Dom

[@Mccaid]

Will the casino get mad if i set the dice? Complete noob here lol

[@Goldentouchcraps]

No, not at all .... but practice setting at home. You really want to be able to set, grip, and throw within 7 - to 10 seconds good luck Dom

[@jolee1641]

Will you have any seminars in 2020 ? Is that schedule on your site still accurate with the given circumstances of covid ?

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Yes, we are having a Covid 19 X 2 special right now for our Vegas seminar in August. It is 38% off, our biggest discount ever - bringing the seminar to $989. Mention that you wrote to me on KZbin and I will throw in lunch for the two days. The AC seminar is still up in the air depending on what happens as far as gathering size in NJ Good luck! Dom

[@jolee1641]

Golden Touch Craps can I email you for more info on where to sign up and the dates of the seminar ?

[@Goldentouchcraps]

@@jolee1641 Hi JP My email is [e-mail] or better yet, give me a call at 866-738-3423 and mention I responded to you on KZbin and I will give you our Covid 19 discount - 38% off the tuition. Actually this will be god for anyone that calls. Talk Soon Dom

[@joehenthorn15]

love the videos...hopefully you can answer this question for me...when you have a come bet with odds and a 7 hits. Do you lose your come bet and get your odds back?

[@christayah]

Joe Henthorn the odds are "not working" or "off" on the come out roll. I'm sure most casinos wont let you place those odds bets without a point established. only your line bet is active or "on" and you will get paid if 7 or 11 hits. this is only if you are on the come out roll with no point established yet. hope that helps

[@beardown1995]

Question is unclear. If the come bet has not moved to the box number, there are no odds and a 7 wins (same as a pass line bet. If the comb bet has move to the box number rolled, the come bet and the odds will lose when a 7 hits.

[@robertferdinand3688]

Yes if player makes point and you have a come bet and odds already up , on the come out roll if a 7 hits you just lose the come bet and get your odds back , on the other end if your come bet and odds are on the 4 and a 4 is thrown you get your odds bet back plus your come bet and pays even Money for the come bet . Got it ?

[@dice-city1386]

HI,thank you for all you help here, I like to ask you if one can use the hard set all of the or just in the come out roll and which number do you put in the top and in the inside? Thank you.

[@geooeh]

Inside 6 1

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Which hardway you have on top is not important. Pick one that you like, but like someone else said 6/1 should be the axis numbers Dom

[@davejohnson6887]

Golden Touch Craps y

[@themanocshow7054]

2/3 3/2 Show for The 5 Works for Me!!!

[@MaskedMageYT]

why is there no footage of your controlled throws?

[@Goldentouchcraps]

There is footage on my throw on our DVD. I do plan in the near future to setup a 2 camera shoot for this channel Good luck! Dom

[@tuhlunksss]

so... what is the Hardway set?

[@Goldentouchcraps]

The hardway set is setting hardways on all 4 sides - hard 4,6,8,10 with 6/1 as the axis Good luck! Dom

[@BW-kv9wj]

I’m trying to understand this. If you use the hard way set on the come out, you are hoping to get a 7? The 7 wins on the come out. I thought you use the hard way to avoid the 7??? If I want to avoid the 7 at all cost, what set is the best??? Thanks.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

There are two thoughts on the come out roll - 1. to throw a 7, 2. use the same set as your point cycle to make your point if you throw the dice the same way. So if you want a 7 on the come out roll use the all 7's set, or use the hardway set to try to make points. I use the hardway set about 90% of the time on the comeout Good luck! Dom

[@BW-kv9wj]

Golden Touch Craps Ok. So, once you established the point, what set do you use to avoid the 7. You said you use hard way 90% of the time on come out. What’s your preferred set after the come out? I’m assuming you’re trying to roll a 7 on the come out roll???? Thank you Sir. Much appreciated.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

@@BW-kv9wj I probably should have said 97% of the time. Very rarely do I switch to any other set than the hardway set. The object of this game is to avoid the 7 not to make points. AS an example, one of my instructors just had a 64 hand roll. He established a point of 4 and 64 rolls later he threw a 7 - never making that 4. He used the hardway set and we made a ton of money Good luck Dom

[@BW-kv9wj]

Golden Touch Craps great. Thank you. I always used the 3V but now I’m gonna try the hard way.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

@@BW-kv9wj I personally don't try for the 7 on the come out roll unless I am playing at a $100 table. When I do and a point is established I go to the hardway set no matter what the point is because like I said I want to throw numbers and avoid the 7 good luck Dom

[@marcusmason8325]

Wasn't expecting to hear that but ok.

[@juancuevas1941]

Hello u amazing plz show me how to roll.hardways

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Thank you for the kind words! As this video says - the game of craps is to avoid the 7. hardways will come, but what you need to do is avoid the 7 ad you will make a ton of money Good luck! Dom

[@doakmasarik9862]

Dom. Doak from Hawaii. I think a lot of people who have UTube videos on dice controlling watch your videos and copy them.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

:)))) - everyone copies me Doak! And why not, I am the best! Good luck! Dom

[@doakmasarik9862]

Dom. I don't like it because they try and make it their own. I only watch for a few minutes to the crap they put out. I only listen to you cause you started me on this journey. One year two months and I'll be there to get a lesson from you. Thanks for putting information on UTube.

[@380_pound_black_womans_sto3]

@@Goldentouchcraps What are your thoughts on keeping dice skills secret so that it doesn't become known to those in a position to enact countermeasures?

[@380_pound_black_womans_sto3]

@@doakmasarik9862 bone thrower is good

[@Goldentouchcraps]

@@380_pound_black_womans_sto3 I think the cat is out of the bag at this point. What bothers me more is all the BS videos out there by so called dice experts that people watch that tell them the wrong things to do Good luck! Dom

[@highsnburgers4862]

He would know.

[@tide1212]

I lost 3k last time

[@pablonelso]

Love your videos I’m out here in Vegas hopefully you pop up at one of my sessions

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Maybe one day! But if you do see me, don't recognize me at the tables. I have had friends get banned just for knowing me Good luck! Dom

[@GamblewithJimmy]

There is no specific set to avoid the 7. Every single set is just 1 rollover from the 7. There is not one person in the world, including YOU, who can avoid a 7 regardless of setting the dice. Yes, we can throw more specific numbers consistently, but controlling the dice from 1 extra roll over from 7 to 8 feet is impossible. I practice 2 hours a night some nights, and the 7 is happening way too often. The next night it's disappeared. There will be days you will hit a 54 , 65 over and over and use the same set the next day and hit hardly any 54,65. You know exactly what I'm saying is facts. Bottom line bet what you're hitting that moment that includes the 7s

[@wilbur813]

Don mnst be rich, how's he doing?

[@Goldentouchcraps]

Don???? Good luck! Dom

[@billniemann6235]

Everytime I use headway set, with perfect grip, swing and release I am guaranteed a 7. Never fails.

[@Goldentouchcraps]

If every time you use the hardway set as you say with the perfect grip, swing, and release you get a 7, then you are using the perfect grip, swing, and release Good luck! Dom

[@380_pound_black_womans_sto3]

Then you should be a millionaire.

[@tide1212]

I had trouble until I Tilted the dice down to other side of table a little and high close to me , because as you release the dice they even out and you can do much better . Worked for me , I constantly have rolls over 15 , had two 30 plus rolls this week

[@jaimegarcia7922]

@@tide1212 How much do you win every time you play at a casino? Good Luck.

[@jbarlak]

Lol yet you still teach people the sets and control. So you gonna admit it’s all bs then

[@pj9983]

full o crap